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Ran a 10k - Official Thread (15 Viewers)

Funny how a big blister on one's heel will drive one to not heel strike anymore...

Feel like I'm running in high heels. 

 
I tripped over this little stump in a forest preserve this morning and hurt my toe. Running was too painful so I had to walk about two miles home. 
 

It’s hurting more and more as I sit here at work. Hopefully just a sprain but I made an appointment to have a doctor look at it tomorrow morning.

I’ve tripped over this same stump before. My mind wanders too much when running. I need to pay more attention.

 
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Hip problem didn't worsen over the last 4 weeks, but it wasn't improving with rest so I decided to selectively attack the problem and see what happened. It responded well to most exercise, but running? Not so much. I'd usually start off fine, but it would become marginally more uncomfortable after 20 mins or so minutes so once it did I'd turn to home base and shut it down. My consultations with Dr. Google about this were not encouraging, but since it wasn't getting worse I didn't adjust. That's not what happened Tuesday though. It didn't feel right at the start then after 20 mins or so it become quite a bit more uncomfortable than other attempts. I had a 5 minute drive after and that's all the time it needed for my entire back to lock up - I could stand, but couldn't walk. Unmedicated that held true though yesterday and thankfully I didn't need the help of advil to put one foot in front of the other today. Still moving gingerly though.

I think it's safe to rule healthy by mid June out now as I'm hanging up my running shoes until (at least) then. I'm not sure if the problem is sciatic, RLBS, or something else but it appears the solution is consistent no matter the actual problem. Stop running and change the exercise I am doing to compliment it. So that's what I'll be doing over the next several weeks.

 
Juxtatarot said:
I tripped over this little stump in a forest preserve this morning and hurt my toe. Running was too painful so I had to walk about two miles home. 
 

It’s hurting more and more as I sit here at work. Hopefully just a sprain but I made an appointment to have a doctor look at it tomorrow morning.

I’ve tripped over this same stump before. My mind wanders too much when running. I need to pay more attention.
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There's a section of trail north of where I live where someone had put some paint on the various stumps ...particularly helpful in the fall, when leaves can make it harder to see the stumps.  Got any paint around, and can you drive/park close enough to go mark it?

 
tri-man 47 said:
There's a section of trail north of where I live where someone had put some paint on the various stumps ...particularly helpful in the fall, when leaves can make it harder to see the stumps.  Got any paint around, and can you drive/park close enough to go mark it?
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Yes, I was thinking about that. I’m sure I’m not the only one who has tripped there. 

 
Juxtatarot said:
I tripped over this little stump in a forest preserve this morning and hurt my toe. Running was too painful so I had to walk about two miles home. 
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Sorry about the toe - I tripped over a root or rock (didn't go back and check) in the forest by the shore last summer and totally Supermanned it, sliding across the sandy dirt.  Fortunately I didn't hurt any joints and just had a wicked abrasion that has left a nice scar.  Wife didn't disappoint as far as her horrified reaction when I came back all bloody.  Things like that make me wonder if I should just stick to the mind-numbingness of street running.

 
Dr_Zaius said:
Sorry about the toe - I tripped over a root or rock (didn't go back and check) in the forest by the shore last summer and totally Supermanned it, sliding across the sandy dirt.  Fortunately I didn't hurt any joints and just had a wicked abrasion that has left a nice scar.  Wife didn't disappoint as far as her horrified reaction when I came back all bloody.  Things like that make me wonder if I should just stick to the mind-numbingness of street running.
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My two worst crashes have actually been on streets.  Tripped on a curb, and slipped on ice.

At least on the trails, you get a soft(er) impact.

 
Zasada said:
My two worst crashes have actually been on streets.  Tripped on a curb, and slipped on ice.

At least on the trails, you get a soft(er) impact.
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I have had one curb incident, and a couple of sidewalk ones, although somehow I've had relatively gentle wipeouts considering all of the concrete around.  Per mile I've definitely had significantly more falls on trails.  I'm not sure how to fix it, as my natural stride has my foot barely off the ground, so I run the risk of hitting relatively low trip hazards.  The nice thing about the low stride is I feel it really helps with the icy running, but obviously that's not a consideration most of the time.  Maybe I need to start running like Roger Craig on trails.  

 
tri-man 47 said:
There's a section of trail north of where I live where someone had put some paint on the various stumps ...particularly helpful in the fall, when leaves can make it harder to see the stumps.  Got any paint around, and can you drive/park close enough to go mark it?
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The spray paint is a great idea.  I've seen stumps/rocks marked like that.  It's really helpful.  :thumbup:

 
Dr_Zaius said:
I have had one curb incident, and a couple of sidewalk ones, although somehow I've had relatively gentle wipeouts considering all of the concrete around.  Per mile I've definitely had significantly more falls on trails.  I'm not sure how to fix it, as my natural stride has my foot barely off the ground, so I run the risk of hitting relatively low trip hazards.  The nice thing about the low stride is I feel it really helps with the icy running, but obviously that's not a consideration most of the time.  Maybe I need to start running like Roger Craig on trails.  
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Same on the stride.  Trail falls suck, but usually it's because you kinda get the wind knocked out of you.  I've tripped and fallen on far too many uneven sidewalks, which tends to result in your knees and the palms of your hands getting all ripped to ####.  Not fun.

 
Racing a 5k tomorrow in what looks like foggy 60*s and no wind.  I’ve put some training time in at faster paces so I’ve got some confidence, we’ll see how brave I am in the morning.  

 
My toe is broken. It was very painful last evening but a little better this morning. Doctor gave a recovery time of 6 weeks but wants to do weekly X-rays to make sure it stays aligned.

I don’t think it was discussed here but I agreed to do the Missouri trail relay with the guys. I hope someone here can fill in for me. (Unless @gianmarco already has someone in mind.)

It will be interesting to see how how my posterior chain issues are affected by the rest. I guess that’s looking for a bright side.

 
Juxtatarot said:
My toe is broken. It was very painful last evening but a little better this morning. Doctor gave a recovery time of 6 weeks but wants to do weekly X-rays to make sure it stays aligned.

I don’t think it was discussed here but I agreed to do the Missouri trail relay with the guys. I hope someone here can fill in for me. (Unless @gianmarco already has someone in mind.)

It will be interesting to see how how my posterior chain issues are affected by the rest. I guess that’s looking for a bright side.
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Man that sucks, 6 weeks on top of the long road back from the upper hamstring injury is rough. Hopefully you’ll be able to run pain free after the time off, I’m sure you’ll fitness will bounce back quickly once healthy. You’ve done it before back in early 2020.

 
tri-man 47 said:
Another thought,  based on something I saw in Runners World.  The knee issue might be due to overstriding, where you're extending the leg/foot too far and really jamming the leg into the ground.  If so, we'll have to get you to land more softly, ideally more on the midfoot (not unlike the foot plant and push-off for a scooter).
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Thanks for your comment on Strava.  I did see this but hadn't had a chance to respond yet.  Basically, I don't feel like I'm over-striding but since I'm a novice runner, I simply don't know what I don't know.  I did see my nurse/runner friend and essentially they gave me a few suggestions:

  • Rest/Elevate/Ice/Ibuprofen (which I'm already doing for the most part)
  • Knee brace - I bought this brace recommended by the nurse to try when I run tomorrow to see if it helps at all
  • Last step if those options don't work will be visiting a physical therapist that can watch me run on a treadmill and analyze my mechanics to make sure I'm using correct form, etc.
 
PlayaHata said:
  • Last step if those options don't work will be visiting a physical therapist that can watch me run on a treadmill and analyze my mechanics to make sure I'm using correct form, etc.
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One way to check mechanics on your own?  Find an incline (can be a short one), and run up it at a brisk pace.  Inclines are more conducive to a 'springy' stride.  The challenge, of course, is that it takes more energy to pop up those inclines.  But you should, somewhat naturally, be running more on the balls of your feet ...more of a midstrike ...not a heel strike, as that would  be awkward on a slope. 

See if you can compare that to your 'normal' stride.  Maybe go back and forth - run the slope; regroup; run the flats briefly; rest again and think; run the slope.  All the while focusing on your foot plant.  Note: Yes, this will probably make your mind go    :loco:

 
bushdocda said:
Racing a 5k tomorrow in what looks like foggy 60*s and no wind.  I’ve put some training time in at faster paces so I’ve got some confidence, we’ll see how brave I am in the morning.  
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Quickie recap - That was rough and I wanted to quit the whole time. Pretty solid PR at 19:43 and first old dude and second overall - you guys told me I’ll someday find a race small enough I could win, someday. Most runners at this event hit the flat HM.  Complaints would include the humidity and the out and back turnaround #### section around mile 1-1.5 when I was ready for the end.

Highlight was easily the breakfast burrito in the normatec boots and recliner at the end.

Podium = treatyoself 

 
SFBayDuck said:
You don't need trail shoes in Marin, so you're good there.

There are just so many options!  There are a couple listed on Strava that would be great, and you can probably download the route onto your watch.  The Marin Headlands loop starts at Tennessee Valley (one of the aid stations our boy just went through a couple of times), and gets you out on the edge of the continent running along the Pacific.  Pretty epic.  The Ninja loop is pretty legendary as well, it started years ago with a group of trail runners that would gather there before sunset on their way into work in The City and knock out 12 miles before work.  It has incredible views of the Bay, The Golden Gate, and The City.  @tri-man 47and I did a segment of that a few years back when he was in town.

I'm partial to the Phoenix Lake loop (#4 on the link) just because some version of that was the basis for probably half of my runs for years, and it hits Yolanda Trail which is one of my favorites in all of Marin. But if you only get one run in, I think either one of those two in the Headlands would be great choices. 
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I gave you a couple shout outs on Strava but I'm not sure if you go on there very much.

I did the #1 and #2 on the link that you referenced.  So freaking awesome.  Many thanks and my quads are definitely feeling it....more so than anything else to be honest.  The fact you did that on a regular basis just tells me what a bad ### you are.  I also saw a guy running with a full sweatpants and sweatshirt.  I'm guessing he was trying to heat acclimate for Western States or some other race.

I posted some pictures on Strava and although it was gorgeous, I can only imagine how beautiful it is as the sun is rising.  My schedule didn't allow me to be there during sunrise or sunset so I did middle of the day run.

Again, THANK YOU @SFBayDuck!

 
bushdocda said:
Quickie recap - That was rough and I wanted to quit the whole time. Pretty solid PR at 19:43 and first old dude and second overall - you guys told me I’ll someday find a race small enough I could win, someday. Most runners at this event hit the flat HM.  Complaints would include the humidity and the out and back turnaround #### section around mile 1-1.5 when I was ready for the end.

Highlight was easily the breakfast burrito in the normatec boots and recliner at the end.

Podium = treatyoself 
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That's a great PR.  Way to go! 

 
Well, I guess I'm up next with a HM on Sunday morning (7:15 a.m. CST).  Much of the race is on familiar paved trails of Busse Woods.  Goal is to match last fall's HM of sub-1:37 (7:21/mi) ..if the weather cooperates.  Our heat wave is supposed to settle down overnight.

 
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As @Bronynoted, got back on the saddle this morning. Been having a LOT of stomach/colon problems since the half marathon (i think i shocked the body a bit there), so I'm trying to recover and it's been pretty bad. So these rare two and three miles runs you guys see is about all I can handle at the moment.

But a good Saturday:

1. 3.25 mile run this morning that just felt good to get out there.

2. Farmers Market: was able to get lettuce, kale, arugula, carrots, asparagus, strawberries, sliced sourdough bread, tomatoes, and new potatoes. Things are getting going now. 

3. QT for a big phat coke. So damn good.

4. Paint store for some Gloss polyurethane for some fishing lures for the Corbinator Bait Company. Feel free to order if you are a fisherperson.

5. Daughters flag football game. They won and she had two great tackles (flag grabs)

6. Clean out and start up the boat for the season.

7. Beers and grilling some pork medallions for dinner along with some fried new potato wedges, asparagus, and salad.

And an extra kudos to @JShare87 - awesome job getting out and also thanks for tagging me a week ago or so regarding these Saturday posts. I'm glad someone likes them and here's to a better routine going forward.

Have a great weekend folks.  :banned:

 
ChiefD said:
As @Bronynoted, got back on the saddle this morning. Been having a LOT of stomach/colon problems since the half marathon (i think i shocked the body a bit there), so I'm trying to recover and it's been pretty bad. So these rare two and three miles runs you guys see is about all I can handle at the moment.

But a good Saturday:

1. 3.25 mile run this morning that just felt good to get out there.

2. Farmers Market: was able to get lettuce, kale, arugula, carrots, asparagus, strawberries, sliced sourdough bread, tomatoes, and new potatoes. Things are getting going now. 

3. QT for a big phat coke. So damn good.

4. Paint store for some Gloss polyurethane for some fishing lures for the Corbinator Bait Company. Feel free to order if you are a fisherperson.

5. Daughters flag football game. They won and she had two great tackles (flag grabs)

6. Clean out and start up the boat for the season.

7. Beers and grilling some pork medallions for dinner along with some fried new potato wedges, asparagus, and salad.

And an extra kudos to @JShare87 - awesome job getting out and also thanks for tagging me a week ago or so regarding these Saturday posts. I'm glad someone likes them and here's to a better routine going forward.

Have a great weekend folks.  :banned:
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Really rubbing it in the face of old potatoes.

 
SteelCurtain said:
I gave you a couple shout outs on Strava but I'm not sure if you go on there very much.

I did the #1 and #2 on the link that you referenced.  So freaking awesome.  Many thanks and my quads are definitely feeling it....more so than anything else to be honest.  The fact you did that on a regular basis just tells me what a bad ### you are.  I also saw a guy running with a full sweatpants and sweatshirt.  I'm guessing he was trying to heat acclimate for Western States or some other race.

I posted some pictures on Strava and although it was gorgeous, I can only imagine how beautiful it is as the sun is rising.  My schedule didn't allow me to be there during sunrise or sunset so I did middle of the day run.

Again, THANK YOU @SFBayDuck!
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That’s awesome, really glad it worked out!  Damn I miss those trails, truly some of the best in the world. 

 
tri-man 47 said:
So yeah, pretty bleh.  But a 1:39:58 (7:34/mi) …good enough to medal mong a 1st place award by five minutes.
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Oh yeah?  Well Summit and I ran a 5k and got smoked by grandmas with corgies. (Keep it in your pants, Wally). 
 

Considering I’m not currently  “a runner” and I’ve run like once in the last few weeks I’m just glad I finished the thing without keeling over. 

 
tri-man 47 said:
So yeah, pretty bleh.  But a 1:39:58 (7:34/mi) …good enough to medal mong a 1st place award by five minutes.
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I saw that too late.  I was out at Busse but on Saturday and would have liked to cheer you on.  (although part of me is secretly happy that I didn't go there to ride only to find the whole path occupied by a race).  

Congrats on the AG! 

 
gruecd said:
I don't remember ever having to complain about oppressive heat and humidity in early May...  :hot:
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the worst of it is that it was 50s the week before. been perfect running weather for weeks. 

Cellcom weekend is always 20+ degrees hotter than the week before. it's amazing.

those last couple runs in 94 degrees + 75 dew point were .... less than ideal.

 
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Chicagoland Spring HM race report

1:39:58 (7:34/mi, per my watch) ...1st in AG (of 12) ...56th of 626

Ultimately, this was more of an endurance run in rather tough conditions than it was a true race.  The race started at 7:15 a.m., so I set the alarm for 4:30 a.m. - yuck.  Did a stim run, had some oatmeal, and took care of business ...with a couple of follow-ups.  It felt more like a system purge than normal morning stuff, which made me cautious.  I left plenty early for the race, which was 30 minutes away.  I expected traffic/parking backups, but there was none.  I arrived earlier than expected and had (too much) time to run a couple easy miles and prep for the race. I lined up quite near the front, slightly behind the 7:15/mi pacers, just in case it was a good day and I could stay with them.  Alas ...

Miles 1-3

7:19 (HR 150) ...7:26 (158) ...7:29 (159)

The first mile went well, but I didn't feel very loose, and I was worried about the conditions (70 degrees+ and 50%+ humidity).  So I decided to be cautious and follow HR with a plan to keep it below 160 over these early miles.  After a loopy start over the first 1/3rd of a mile, the course ran about two miles straight down a road before cutting onto the familiar, paved, forest preserve trails.

Miles 4-10

7:26 (161) ...7:30 (161) ...7:25 (163) ...7:36 (163) ...7:35 (165) ...7:27 (165) ...7:35 (166)

These were familiar miles with little in the way of elevation changes.  But I still wasn't feeling relaxed, and the adrenaline wasn't flowing.  I was really just putzing along at a moderately uncomfortable pace.

Miles 11-13

7:58 (166) ...7:42 (169) ...7:59 (169) ...6:51 (172) over final .1

Just trying to stay somewhat steady and finish up.  With no more out-and-back segments, we were quite spread out at this point.  By the finish, no one was closer than 10-15 seconds of me in either direction, which made it tougher to motivate over these miles.

So all in all, nothing exciting.  My training and the conditions didn't set me up for a maximum effort, but I had hoped to do better than this.  My Garmin, per usual, gives me an estimated recovery time, and instead of stating a certain number of hours, it told me "3 days."  Anyway, on to the summer training.  I might drop down to 5Ks for a while to really focus on my stride.

 
mr. furley said:
the worst of it is that it was 50s the week before. been perfect running weather for weeks. 

Cellcom weekend is always 20+ degrees hotter than the week before. it's amazing.

those last couple runs in 94 degrees + 75 dew point were .... less than ideal.
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I’m starting to get a little scared about our HIM Memorial Day weekend. Last year was wetsuit legal. That seems unlikely this year. 

 
-OZ- said:
I’m starting to get a little scared about our HIM Memorial Day weekend. Last year was wetsuit legal. That seems unlikely this year. 
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we're supposed to trend back in to the upper 50s/lower 60s this week, but anything is possible lately it feels like. could be 110 here over Memorial Day weekend and i wouldn't be shocked.

 
mr. furley said:
we're supposed to trend back in to the upper 50s/lower 60s this week, but anything is possible lately it feels like. could be 110 here over Memorial Day weekend and i wouldn't be shocked.
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We’ve got upper 80s and low 90s all week until Saturday when it’s supposed to drop to 80. Of course that can change

 
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