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Rashad Jennings (1 Viewer)

Why are we talking 1/2 season somewhat healthy intervals between 2 seasons when the NFL and fantasy season is an endurance test of 16 games?

 
Rotoworld:

Rashad Jennings has seen "a great many" second-team reps at Giants camp, and is also working on special teams units.

Per beat writer Ebenezer Samuel, both Shane Vereen and Andre Williams have taken more first-team reps than Jennings. We're not yet sure what to make of this news -- other Giants beat writers haven't noted anything like this -- but at very least it's a situation to monitor. Samuel anticipates a "backfield-by-committee," perhaps with Vereen, Williams, and Jennings all sharing time.

Source: New York Daily News
Aug 6 - 10:59 PM
 
What a mess. Just draft one of them and hope he out touches the others.
I don't think it's really a "mess". I think it is the Giants just making sure they get a long look at what they have and get everyone ready to play because they have been so snake bitten with injuries at the position the past few years they probably don't want to get caught with their pants down again.

 
What a mess. Just draft one of them and hope he out touches the others.
I don't think it's really a "mess". I think it is the Giants just making sure they get a long look at what they have and get everyone ready to play because they have been so snake bitten with injuries at the position the past few years they probably don't want to get caught with their pants down again.
Yep.

 
What a mess. Just draft one of them and hope he out touches the others.
I don't think it's really a "mess". I think it is the Giants just making sure they get a long look at what they have and get everyone ready to play because they have been so snake bitten with injuries at the position the past few years they probably don't want to get caught with their pants down again.
I don't think they signed Vereen to just come in on 3rd downs. I think he gets 4-5 carries a game.

 
What a mess. Just draft one of them and hope he out touches the others.
I don't think it's really a "mess". I think it is the Giants just making sure they get a long look at what they have and get everyone ready to play because they have been so snake bitten with injuries at the position the past few years they probably don't want to get caught with their pants down again.
Yep.
Yep.


NJ.com's Jordan Raanan "wouldn't make too much" of Rashad Jennings' apparently-reduced first-team reps at Giants camp.
The New York Daily News reported Thursday that Jennings was taking fewer first-team reps than both Shane Vereen and Andre Williams. Raanan says the Giants "are just rotating their running backs constantly" in training camp practices, and apparently isn't buying that Jennings has slid down the depth chart.
 
Rotoworld:

NJ.com's Jordan Raanan still considers Rashad Jennings the favorite to lead the Giants in 2015 carries.

Jennings is the Giants' best all-around back, holding a career 4.18 YPC average despite never playing on good teams. Although his average slipped to 3.83 last year, the rest of the Giants' 2014 rushers combined for a 3.42 average behind putrid run blocking. Jennings' average was easily the best on the team. Reports of Jennings potentially slipping down the depth chart are worth monitoring, but most Giants beat writers don't see that as realistic. Jennings is the heavy favorite to start Week 1 against Dallas.

Source: Jordan Raanan on Twitter

Aug 7 - 11:26 AM
 
Rotoworld:

NJ.com's Jordan Raanan "wouldn't make too much" of Rashad Jennings' apparently-reduced first-team reps at Giants camp.

The New York Daily News reported Thursday that Jennings was taking fewer first-team reps than both Shane Vereen and Andre Williams. Raanan says the Giants "are just rotating their running backs constantly" in training camp practices, and apparently isn't buying that Jennings has slid down the depth chart.

Source: Jordan Raanan on Twitter

Aug 7 - 10:06 AM
 
3 years 12.3 million

5'10" 205

4.2 ypc career average

215 carries in 42 games

2nd round pick

4 years 10 million

6'1" 229

4.2 ypc career average

7th round pick

rookie contract

6'0" 227

3.3 ypc career average

4th round pick

Bonus

rookie contract

5'10" 205

3.8 ypc

250 carries in 44 games

2nd round pick

Name these guys.

 
So to summarize, vereen is the highest paid guy with the best ypc who blocks and catches better than the others and is running with the first team and getting more action in the running game than anyone expected even though the coaches have been talking about using him on early downs since acquiring him.

And her looks remarkably similar to our bonus player... tiki barber heading into his breakout fourth season

 
value city...Vereen is a third down back and Andre Williams isn't versatile enough to make a dent.

Produced when healthy last two years.

Love this guy in PPRs in the middle rounds.

 
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value city...Vereen is a third down back and Andre Williams isn't versatile enough to make a dent.

Produced when healthy last two years.

Love this guy in PPRs in the middle rounds.
Love might be a tad strong IMO. he'll be decent when healthy to good against weak defenses. BUT, Andre Will actually looked pretty good last night. Had more shake/wiggle in his few carries then he had all of last yr. I like Jennings and own him, but I think he'll be a shaky flex option. I have a feeling Andre Will be used alot more then people think. Could even see a 60-40 rushing split with Vereen on 3rd downs. How many touches are we then talking about here 10-15/game??

Meh

 
value city...Vereen is a third down back and Andre Williams isn't versatile enough to make a dent.

Produced when healthy last two years.

Love this guy in PPRs in the middle rounds.
Love might be a tad strong IMO. he'll be decent when healthy to good against weak defenses. BUT, Andre Will actually looked pretty good last night. Had more shake/wiggle in his few carries then he had all of last yr. I like Jennings and own him, but I think he'll be a shaky flex option. I have a feeling Andre Will be used alot more then people think. Could even see a 60-40 rushing split with Vereen on 3rd downs. How many touches are we then talking about here 10-15/game??

Meh
All true, but depth is vital, as we are figuring out the past week.

 
value city...Vereen is a third down back and Andre Williams isn't versatile enough to make a dent.

Produced when healthy last two years.

Love this guy in PPRs in the middle rounds.
Love might be a tad strong IMO. he'll be decent when healthy to good against weak defenses. BUT, Andre Will actually looked pretty good last night. Had more shake/wiggle in his few carries then he had all of last yr. I like Jennings and own him, but I think he'll be a shaky flex option. I have a feeling Andre Will be used alot more then people think. Could even see a 60-40 rushing split with Vereen on 3rd downs. How many touches are we then talking about here 10-15/game??

Meh
You only need him to be decent at his price.

 
value city...Vereen is a third down back and Andre Williams isn't versatile enough to make a dent.

Produced when healthy last two years.

Love this guy in PPRs in the middle rounds.
Love might be a tad strong IMO. he'll be decent when healthy to good against weak defenses. BUT, Andre Will actually looked pretty good last night. Had more shake/wiggle in his few carries then he had all of last yr. I like Jennings and own him, but I think he'll be a shaky flex option. I have a feeling Andre Will be used alot more then people think. Could even see a 60-40 rushing split with Vereen on 3rd downs. How many touches are we then talking about here 10-15/game??

Meh
You only need him to be decent at his price.
exactly, we're not talking about a third rounder here...he is easily sliding into the sixth round here.

 
value city...Vereen is a third down back and Andre Williams isn't versatile enough to make a dent.

Produced when healthy last two years.

Love this guy in PPRs in the middle rounds.
If I was sure Vereen wouldn't steal a bunch of carries, yeah I agree.

 
value city...Vereen is a third down back and Andre Williams isn't versatile enough to make a dent.

Produced when healthy last two years.

Love this guy in PPRs in the middle rounds.
If I was sure Vereen wouldn't steal a bunch of carries, yeah I agree.
Vereen will get hurt :nerd: :nerd: :nerd:

Yeah, I dont really see much upside for Jennings other than as a 4th or 5th RB for injury/bye weeks

 
To each their own...but every day that passes I like Vareen more and more this year. In my opinion Vareen is the back to own here if you're in a PPR league. That Bob Mcadoo offense is tailor made for him with all those short passes.

If Vareen steals even 30 to 35% of the carries (which I think he easily will) he's going to outscore Jennings in ppr by a decent margin. I think he has potential for 80+ receptions.

 
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value city...Vereen is a third down back and Andre Williams isn't versatile enough to make a dent.

Produced when healthy last two years.

Love this guy in PPRs in the middle rounds.
If I was sure Vereen wouldn't steal a bunch of carries, yeah I agree.
would you agree that if Vereen isn't getting any 1st or 2nd down rushing attempts that that would be an indicator of not "stealing a bunch of carries?"

 
To each their own...but every day that passes I like Vareen more and more this year. In my opinion Vareen is the back to own here if you're in a PPR league. That Bob Mcadoo offense is tailor made for him with all those short passes.

If Vareen steals even 30 to 35% of the carries (which I think he easily will) he's going to outscore Jennings in ppr by a decent margin. I think he has potential for 80+ receptions.
Vereen is more of a play in PPR, I don't disagree with that...but I agree with most "experts" that Rashad should still go higher.

 
value city...Vereen is a third down back and Andre Williams isn't versatile enough to make a dent.

Produced when healthy last two years.

Love this guy in PPRs in the middle rounds.
If I was sure Vereen wouldn't steal a bunch of carries, yeah I agree.
would you agree that if Vereen isn't getting any 1st or 2nd down rushing attempts that that would be an indicator of not "stealing a bunch of carries?"
it would help, but i recall some 1/2 down carries in the last preseason game

 
To each their own...but every day that passes I like Vareen more and more this year. In my opinion Vareen is the back to own here if you're in a PPR league. That Bob Mcadoo offense is tailor made for him with all those short passes.

If Vareen steals even 30 to 35% of the carries (which I think he easily will) he's going to outscore Jennings in ppr by a decent margin. I think he has potential for 80+ receptions.
You like him so much, yet you cant even spell his damn name

 
Wow~!

I'm shocked not one word has been uttered about Jennings supposedly being told by Eli "not to score" at the end of the game this week.

"Rashad Jennings tells ESPN's Dan Graziano he was told not to score on 1st- and 2nd-and-goal on New York's final drive Sunday evening."

As an owner in one big money league (I have him and Vereen on my bench) I am stoked to see he got 13 carries for 52 yards and a TD.

Then again, I need to constantly ask myself exactly how "stoked" I should be, if in fact that dumb ### Eli Manning told him not to score near the end. (A stunning move that may have cost them the game)

Something about this story stinks, and it wouldn't surprise me if this triggers the end of Rashad Jennings in New York.

Why would they ever let this out???? (it had to be a Tom Coughlin call)

Maybe we will hear more this week concerning it.

TZM

 
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Then again, I need to constantly ask myself exactly how "stoked" I should be, if in fact that dumb ### Eli Manning told him not to score near the end. (A stunning move that may have cost them the game)

Something about this story stinks, and it wouldn't surprise me if this triggers the end of Rashad Jennings in New York.

Why would they ever let this out???? (it had to be a Tom Coughlin call)
It was a stupid call (by whomever, Eli or Coughlin) because of the amount of time left in the game.

But that is very rare and situation-dependent, and I don't know why anyone would worry about it happening often, nor why you would think it "triggers the end of Jennings in NY". Are you saying that because you think they'll punish Jennings for speaking publicly when he should have said "no comment"? I doubt it.

 
Something about them telling him not to score really does stink. It makes no sense to not want to be up by ten points.

That's probably the worst decision-making I've ever heard, or it's untrue.

But Jennings is a plodder. It looks like Vereen got 26 snaps to Jennings's 21.

 
Here's his apology.

As far as fantasy, last week was a 3-way RBBC. The TD obviously was nice, but 13 carries and zero receptions was not.
Wow. I'm blown away by that. I can't believe they wouldn't think being up by two scores is better than milking the clock, throwing the ball and being up by six.

There's a really genuine problem if that was the coaching and leadership decision.

 
LittlePhatty said:
why you would think it "triggers the end of Jennings in NY".
I said "it wouldn't surprise me if this triggers the end of Rashad Jennings in New York."

Its not necessarily just because of that though, its all things considered.

Jennings hasn't been exactly a bastion of health since he got there. (though I think he has been decent when healthy)

Knowing Tom Coughlin is part of it, I mean why wouldn't this have come out from another source, and not the "lowly RB"?

I would think Coughlin himself may have stepped up to the plate, or "my good little soldier" Eli takes all the blame taking it off Coughlin.

It just surprises me that it came from Jennings , and It wouldn't surprise me if he is let go at some point,thats all.

I don't know the exact timeline of the events, but it almost seems like Jennings let the cat out of the bag, then the damage control began.

Typically those old school coaches don't like that sort of thing getting out by someone, and it often comes back to haunt the player in one way or another.

Regardless, I just thought it was interesting no one here had said anything.

I am not a big fan of any one organization, the only thing I really care about is how these guys do on my fantasy teams, and how they perform once I have a financial investment.

I'm actually hoping Jennings can stay healthy and have a great season. :)

TZM

 
On the verge of droppable for me....He's the worst of a cast of misfit RB's...Basically, if the G-men go up on Washington and they don't run him a lot, he's gone.

 
Only a holy crap I found myself in the end zone has prevented a craptacular showing thus far. I'm not starting him and would consider dropping.

 
Is Jennings gaining some momentum as a rb2/flex play or am I nuts? Added to bottom of roster as a why not pickup in a 10 teamer

 
Just traded him along with Crabtree and Willie Snead (who was on my team for 3 hours) for Forsett, LaFell, and Marvin Jones in a PPR league.

 
Is Jennings gaining some momentum as a rb2/flex play or am I nuts? Added to bottom of roster as a why not pickup in a 10 teamer
I think he should be rostered in ALL 10 team leagues and 12 team leagues alike, except in some fluky rules or scoring scenarios.

No matter how we shake it, he is considered the "starting" RB for a team, and he is averaging 10+ carries a week through 4 weeks. Let's not forget he catches a few passes here and there also, and sometimes gets goal line work to boot.

Last time I checked, this year has been an abomination to RBs.

Makes me all the more confident and happy with my decision NOT to draft RBs early, barring one league.

As it turns out, I have him on 2 of 4 rosters, although I must admit to having dropped him a week ago then picking him back up yesterday in one particular league. (for what its worth, I drafted him and Vereen BOTH in those two leagues as bench backs)

I am having to start him in one league, where I have two other sparkling luminaries at RB on bye..... namely Jonathan Stewart and Lamar Miller.

Am I confident in Jennings this week? I wouldn't go quite that far, but playing SF is a good matchup. 50 yards and a TD isn't out of the question, and the way RBs are performing this year, I will gladly accept that.

I have always been one of those guys that draft a single WR to cover bye weeks of the others (redraft) and I just absolutely load up on RBs on my bench.

I may be biased, but there is no reason for him to be on the wire in most leagues.

What would you rather have on your bench, a 4th or 5th WR? LOL, or an actual starting RB, who is often a single injury away from above average production......

(now then again, if in your league there are several people roster 2 or even THREE QBs, and multiple tight ends, then its a different animal)

But those guys are the same ones who cry later in the season when they have no running back depth too.

TZM

 
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I don't disagree that he should be rostered, but whether it's by you or someone else depends on the type of production you like...I had him and actually dropped him a week ago because of horrible bye week issues...but, the inconsistency makes him nearly impossible to start. Some weeks, he'll produce, other weeks, he'll do absolutely nothing. Whether that makes him worth it to you or not is your call...

 
Still a 3-way RBBC- he's worth rostering in case someone gets hurt, but you'd have to be pretty desperate to start him without that happening IMO.

 
Rotoworld:

Rashad Jennings rushed for 170 yards and one touchdown on 27 carries in the Giants' 35-30, Week 17 loss to the Eagles.

He also caught 2-of-5 targets for six yards. The 170-yard effort was Jennings' second-highest single-game total of his career, and his 863 yards in total this season is a new career-high. Jennings finished the season extremely strong with 432 yards and two of his three rushing scores over the final four weeks. It took the Giants entirely too long to abandon their RB-by-committee approach this season, and things may have turned out differently for them if they'd have done this earlier in the year instead of wasting carries on Andre Williams and Orleans Darkwa. Jennings will turn 31 in March, but entered the league as a 24-year-old and barely played before the 2013 season. He has plenty of tread left on the tires and is due just under $3 million in 2016. The Giants will likely add a running back and get rid of Williams, but Jennings should have a firm role next year.


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