Agreed. Moved him for Kamara today. So I feel good about it.He looks slow.
Wow!Agreed. Moved him for Kamara today. So I feel good about it.He looks slow.
Not sure he'd be any better. Mattison is pretty meh, but being down to your 8th OL in week 2 would be a recipe for disaster even if they had Derrick Henry.Maybe they should have kept Cook
They say do what you're good at.Sure likes to fumble
It’s true, but he looks about as elusive as a cow. He’s probably got another game or two of looking less than pedestrian and he’s going to start losing work quickly.As much as I’m pissed about getting three points and sitting players that will almost certainly do better this week, objectively he’s in on 85% of the plays. That’s hard to find in todays league.
Yeah I agree. My other options sure aren’t great though. I changed last minute and sat Pacheco for him especially considering Pacheco splits with two other guys. The Vikings can score points. He’ll get chances. Still a decent low end RB 2 assuming you’re strong elsewhere.It’s true, but he looks about as elusive as a cow. He’s probably got another game or two of looking less than pedestrian and he’s going to start losing work quickly.As much as I’m pissed about getting three points and sitting players that will almost certainly do better this week, objectively he’s in on 85% of the plays. That’s hard to find in todays league.
Yeah, but to who? Ty Chandler doesn't look like an answer.It’s true, but he looks about as elusive as a cow. He’s probably got another game or two of looking less than pedestrian and he’s going to start losing work quickly.As much as I’m pissed about getting three points and sitting players that will almost certainly do better this week, objectively he’s in on 85% of the plays. That’s hard to find in todays league.
As much as I’m pissed about getting three points and sitting players that will almost certainly do better this week, objectively he’s in on 85% of the plays. That’s hard to find in todays league.
You did notice that Cousins has thrown 44 passes each game so far (granted only 2 weeks). He is only behind Mac Jones pace for attempts (54 per game).Yeah, but to who? Ty Chandler doesn't look like an answer.It’s true, but he looks about as elusive as a cow. He’s probably got another game or two of looking less than pedestrian and he’s going to start losing work quickly.As much as I’m pissed about getting three points and sitting players that will almost certainly do better this week, objectively he’s in on 85% of the plays. That’s hard to find in todays league.
Chandler might not be the answer either, but wouldn’t surprise me if he’s given a chance to show whether he is.Yeah, but to who? Ty Chandler doesn't look like an answer.It’s true, but he looks about as elusive as a cow. He’s probably got another game or two of looking less than pedestrian and he’s going to start losing work quickly.As much as I’m pissed about getting three points and sitting players that will almost certainly do better this week, objectively he’s in on 85% of the plays. That’s hard to find in todays league.
I appreciate your glass half full attitude. The world needs more of that.As much as I’m pissed about getting three points and sitting players that will almost certainly do better this week, objectively he’s in on 85% of the plays. That’s hard to find in todays league.
I was hoping I might be wrong but Mattison has been worse than I expected, and I wasnt expecting him to be good.Yeah, but to who? Ty Chandler doesn't look like an answer.It’s true, but he looks about as elusive as a cow. He’s probably got another game or two of looking less than pedestrian and he’s going to start losing work quickly.As much as I’m pissed about getting three points and sitting players that will almost certainly do better this week, objectively he’s in on 85% of the plays. That’s hard to find in todays league.
The Eagles have a strong defensive line. Only a few teams similarly as good as them there.While he didnt look great - OL was awful. He was hit immediately on most carries. Also the gamescript is pass happy so he cant ever get a rhythm. I dont think hes this bad so looking for bounce back
really? He averaged 3.8 ypc in 2022 and 3.7 ypc in 2021.slightly brighter days ahead when he's not going against elite run D's every week
Possibly.slightly brighter days ahead when he's not going against elite run D's every week
That's why I said slightly. I expect him to be flex-worthy most weeks. Nothing special, but usable.really? He averaged 3.8 ypc in 2022 and 3.7 ypc in 2021.slightly brighter days ahead when he's not going against elite run D's every week
I'm onboard with that, but when Cook left there were plenty who thought he was going to be great and I disagreed.That's why I said slightly. I expect him to be flex-worthy most weeks. Nothing special, but usable.really? He averaged 3.8 ypc in 2022 and 3.7 ypc in 2021.slightly brighter days ahead when he's not going against elite run D's every week
Mattison also looked slow and plodding.I don't have any stocks of Mattison, but watching the game last night their o-line is brutal. Kirk is getting smacked on every play.
Alexander Mattison rushed eight times for 28 yards in the Vikings’ Week 2 loss to the Eagles, adding three receptions for 11 additional yards.
It was almost identical usage to Mattison’s Week 1, where he handled 11 carries and caught three balls for 10 yards. Mattison has been badly failing the eye test, looking stiff and unexplosive. It doesn’t help that the Vikings have almost no interest in the running game, and seem unlikely to make any effort to get Mattison into rhythm. His RB2 case is already on thin ice. He will have to deliver something better in Week 3’s likely shootout with the Chargers if he wants to remain in the top 24.
That's why most people don't rank Emmitt Smith anywhere near the top of all-time RB rankings, even though he is the all-time leader in rushing yards. People are smart enough to know that Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, and Walter Payton were better RBs. If ES was on a team with a lesser line he wouldn't even be in the HOF. I don't think people feel the same way about Brown, Sanders, ande Payton.Ummm, you could stick Emmitt Smith behind that line, in his prime, and he would struggle. Bringing someone else in isn't the answer. I'm not saying Mattison is great, but the line is the real problem here. Cousins is getting hit more than any other QB in the league (this year and last), and when they hand it off to Mattison, he's hit more often than not well behind the line of scrimmage. If they bring anybody in off the street, it needs to be a FA lineman. Risner, etc. Preferably multiple linemen.
Even if they do fix the line somewhat, I see a very pass-heavy offense this year. Cousins may very well lead the league in passing yards (if he manages to somehow stay on the field). Mattison is what he is... A poor man's Cook. He can do a lot of the same things Cook did, but he's not as electric/explosive as Cook was. Behind an average or better line, the difference would be minimal. Behind a well below average line, his limitations are glaringly obvious.
Fair point. That was just the first name that came to mind. My point was that you could stick pretty much anyone behind that line, and they would have a tough time finding space to make a play. Barry Sanders may be one of the few exceptions. But, I'm not trying to get off-topic here. Mattison is nothing special. But, he's not terrible, either. The O-line, on the other hand, is really bad, and Mattison basically had no chance on most of his carries.That's why most people don't rank Emmitt Smith anywhere near the top of all-time RB rankings, even though he is the all-time leader in rushing yards. People are smart enough to know that Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, and Walter Payton were better RBs. If ES was on a team with a lesser line he wouldn't even be in the HOF. I don't think people feel the same way about Brown, Sanders, ande Payton.Ummm, you could stick Emmitt Smith behind that line, in his prime, and he would struggle. Bringing someone else in isn't the answer. I'm not saying Mattison is great, but the line is the real problem here. Cousins is getting hit more than any other QB in the league (this year and last), and when they hand it off to Mattison, he's hit more often than not well behind the line of scrimmage. If they bring anybody in off the street, it needs to be a FA lineman. Risner, etc. Preferably multiple linemen.
Even if they do fix the line somewhat, I see a very pass-heavy offense this year. Cousins may very well lead the league in passing yards (if he manages to somehow stay on the field). Mattison is what he is... A poor man's Cook. He can do a lot of the same things Cook did, but he's not as electric/explosive as Cook was. Behind an average or better line, the difference would be minimal. Behind a well below average line, his limitations are glaringly obvious.
True elite RBs will get theirs regardless, just as Jim Brown Barry Sanders, and Walter Payton did all those years. There are more too. It's when the RB is average that I agree with you. Key words here "True elite". As a more recent example, Jonathan Taylor. People here want to rag on the Colts OL, and I agree their trouble is mostly in pass protection, but it's basically the same line. Anthony Constonzo retired in January, 2021. The year that JT went off (2021) Quentin Nelson, their best OL, especially run blocking, missed 4 games on IR and Braden Smith, their 2nd best OL missed 6 games.Fair point. That was just the first name that came to mind. My point was that you could stick pretty much anyone behind that line, and they would have a tough time finding space to make a play. Barry Sanders may be one of the few exceptions. But, I'm not trying to get off-topic here. Mattison is nothing special. But, he's not terrible, either. The O-line, on the other hand, is really bad, and Mattison basically had no chance on most of his carries.That's why most people don't rank Emmitt Smith anywhere near the top of all-time RB rankings, even though he is the all-time leader in rushing yards. People are smart enough to know that Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, and Walter Payton were better RBs. If ES was on a team with a lesser line he wouldn't even be in the HOF. I don't think people feel the same way about Brown, Sanders, ande Payton.Ummm, you could stick Emmitt Smith behind that line, in his prime, and he would struggle. Bringing someone else in isn't the answer. I'm not saying Mattison is great, but the line is the real problem here. Cousins is getting hit more than any other QB in the league (this year and last), and when they hand it off to Mattison, he's hit more often than not well behind the line of scrimmage. If they bring anybody in off the street, it needs to be a FA lineman. Risner, etc. Preferably multiple linemen.
Even if they do fix the line somewhat, I see a very pass-heavy offense this year. Cousins may very well lead the league in passing yards (if he manages to somehow stay on the field). Mattison is what he is... A poor man's Cook. He can do a lot of the same things Cook did, but he's not as electric/explosive as Cook was. Behind an average or better line, the difference would be minimal. Behind a well below average line, his limitations are glaringly obvious.
All good points.Was this not extremely predictable? Your low end RB2 went against a top 5 defense, had a poor game and now people are trying to cut bait 2 games in?
All we really learned is he didn’t make some magical jump into an RB1 during the off-season. Jury is still out if he can smash soft defenses and finish with RB2 numbers but usage looks fine and gets targets in the passing game.
Pretty much spot on. Looked like Lav Murray without the power. Plus two fumblesAll good points.Was this not extremely predictable? Your low end RB2 went against a top 5 defense, had a poor game and now people are trying to cut bait 2 games in?
All we really learned is he didn’t make some magical jump into an RB1 during the off-season. Jury is still out if he can smash soft defenses and finish with RB2 numbers but usage looks fine and gets targets in the passing game.
I think the issue people have is that he should have at least passed the eye test. He should look capable. He shouldn't look slow. The soft factor of bad bal security is just icing on top of that sh** cake.
I don't think anyone expected him to have massive games against tough defenses, but I do believe it's fair to expect him to pass the eye test if one took him as their RB2. He shouldn't look like a plodder. He should display good vision, capable hands, a little explosiveness on the few times he did run uncontested out the gate. At a very minimum, don't lose 2 sloppy fumbles (the 2nd was softer & more egregious but he was bailed out by a penalty).
I feel like people are bailing because he actively looked bad while producing poorly, not because he produced poorly.
i dunno does anyone look all that good producing a 30 yards on 8 carries stat lineAll good points.Was this not extremely predictable? Your low end RB2 went against a top 5 defense, had a poor game and now people are trying to cut bait 2 games in?
All we really learned is he didn’t make some magical jump into an RB1 during the off-season. Jury is still out if he can smash soft defenses and finish with RB2 numbers but usage looks fine and gets targets in the passing game.
I think the issue people have is that he should have at least passed the eye test. He should look capable. He shouldn't look slow. The soft factor of bad ball security is just icing on top of that sh** cake.
I don't think anyone expected him to have massive games against tough defenses, but I do believe it's fair to expect him to pass the eye test if one took him as their RB2. He shouldn't look like a plodder. He should display good vision, capable hands, a little explosiveness on the few times he did run uncontested out the gate. At a very minimum, don't lose 2 sloppy fumbles (the 2nd was softer & more egregious but he was bailed out by a penalty).
I feel like people are bailing because he actively looked bad while producing poorly, not because he produced poorly.
2 weeks in a row.i dunno does anyone look all that good producing a 30 yards on 8 carries stat line