Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I don't think I made a huge deal of Kamara's age, certainly not as many times as you mention itRight, but just as you say those TD's are worth yards/catches---the passing game volume he gets made up for those problems last year. I think the passing game continues.Understood but he's NEVER rushed for 1,000 ydsIt's not that I disagree with anything you said, I just think he is still the top dog in an offense that is going to want to run the ball a lot under Klint Kubiak(I see that jm192 is making this same point as I am typing out this message).I'm not a hater, just stating the facts and stats, was anything you disagreed with specifically?In my main league he was RB8 in points per game. I'm not expecting him to be CMC, but I'll take that production for where is going in drafts and auctions.Would anyone believe me if I told them Kamara never rushed for 1,000 yds ever in a season?
21 TDs in 2020...since then he hasn't scored 21 TDs total in 3 seasons combined
81+ catches every year his 1st 4 seasons, that's where he made his living
83/1688/21TDs - 2020
47/1337/9TDs - 2021
57/1387/4 TDs - 2022...he had some injuries and then he also was suspended part of the season last year
75/1,160/6 TD - 2023
-What I take from these stats is the big drop off in total yds last season despite 75 catches, how is that going to get better in 2024?
I always like the name Kamara on Draft Day, especially as a RB2/3 but he no longer can be thought of as a sleeper RB1, it doesn't add up.
The QB is definitely a problem, not that much amazing talent around him and his TD opportunities since Coach Sean left, not the same.
He still likely will catch 60+ balls if he stays healthy and gets enough snaps. 4.0/3.9 yds per carry last 2 years, that's not promising.
All time low in yds per catch last season.
He's on the down side, no matter where you decide to take him in the Draft
Sure, his best days are probably behind him but he should eat in that offense.
I hear you, RB8, had him on a few teams last year even with the 4-game suspension. Was largely underwhelmed many weeks.
He never carries it much past about 200 carries with a couple exceptions
My point was he makes his money being a 2-way threat and I'm not sold he still is
His yds per catch was all time low last year and he has the same QB
Maybe the new OC wants to lighten his load in receptions and then where are you at?
-We all took advantage of the 4 game suspension last year
This is not the Drew Brees/Sean Payton offense of 2020
I'm asking everyone to take a pause and just think this out
Raheem Mostert is going off the board asRB28 and almost pick #100 overall...Miami offense is light years better than New Orleans
And...Achane can't possibly carry a full load right now, Mostert will continue to see scoring opps and touches, Miami does not abuse Mostert, better value IMHO
TD-TD-TD-TD-TD-TD-TD-TD-TD-TD-TD-TD-TD-TD-TD...every one of those TDs is worth 60 yds or 6 catches, it closes the gap quickly.
Aaron Jones, Rhamondre Stephenson who was just extended, Pollard, rookie-Brooks in Carolina
If I can get us all to take a step back, I did put many of you right into my Redraft thread this morning
I'm not anti-Kamara, cannot stress that enough but I just don't want to put all my eggs in the same basket with him.
I like Kamara as part of a 3-Back platoon for RB2/3/Flex spots
In regards to "This is not Brees and Payton" AGAIN, he finished top 5 in PPG last year. It wasn't Brees and Payton last year. You seem to keep glossing right over his actual fantasy points from last year to talk about yards per carry and age. But yards per carry doesn't win fantasy games. Fantasy points do.
I think Mostert is also underrated. But you keep saying Kamara is 28, 28, 28. 28 is so old. Mostert is 32.
I like Aaron Jones, but I'm worried about the injury issues and the change of scenery. Maybe McCarthy passes to him a ton.
I like Kamara quite a bit more than Rhamondre. I think that Patriots offense is going to be brutal.
Pollard probably splits touches pretty down the middle with Spears as they are very similar backs.
Brooks tore his ACL back in November. Most guys coming off of an ACL aren't the same guy until the 2nd season back. And he goes to such a bad offense in Carolina.
Why is it not possible for you to shake my hand and acknowledge that I already agreed at 76-78 overall, he's decent value?
I just see a lot of RBs I like near his draft spot or a round/two later is my larger point.
And I just don't see major upside in Kamara the way I felt last off season
Yes Mostert is 32, agreed
He's had major success in Miami 2 years in a row, has not had a lot of touches over his career and if they keep him between 10-15 touches a game, Mostert can keep accumulating
Just my opinion
-And let's not lose sight of the fact that MoP is one of the bigger Miami fans that dislikes Tua...re-read that and ask @Gatorman because I promise he'll tell you I am uber-critical
And yet I want to try and secure him in every redraft I can get my hands on him, why???
Ask yourself that

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