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RB Audric Estime, Free Agent (1 Viewer)

Put in a bid for him and was surprised to snag him.

You can't deny 14-53 against a tough KC defense...in a close game. That stands out to me #1. If you're going to give him the ball against KC in a division game, that bodes well moving forward.

Watched all the video clips. Looks like a serious thumper. Not a ton of wiggle, but puts his foot in the ground, cuts and hits it.

Everyone saying he's just a 2 down guy. Does he have ANY pass catching experience?

May be forced to start him this week. Decent matchup against ATL. And next week, LV. Opportunity here to create separation from the others.
 
kyoun1e said:
Everyone saying he's just a 2 down guy. Does he have ANY pass catching experience?
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He really never caught passes at Notre Dame, but that doesn't mean he can't - perhaps just the scheme they used there. What's working against him in the passing game element though is Payton's longstanding preference for situational backs, plus the fact that Javonte is a plus blocker and may be used frequently in passing situations.
 
zamboni said:
kyoun1e said:
Everyone saying he's just a 2 down guy. Does he have ANY pass catching experience?
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He really never caught passes at Notre Dame, but that doesn't mean he can't - perhaps just the scheme they used there. What's working against him in the passing game element though is Payton's longstanding preference for situational backs, plus the fact that Javonte is a plus blocker and may be used frequently in passing situations.
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Another problem is Bo Nix. He's going to continue to be an option in general and near the goal line.
 
kyoun1e said:
zamboni said:
kyoun1e said:
Everyone saying he's just a 2 down guy. Does he have ANY pass catching experience?
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He really never caught passes at Notre Dame, but that doesn't mean he can't - perhaps just the scheme they used there. What's working against him in the passing game element though is Payton's longstanding preference for situational backs, plus the fact that Javonte is a plus blocker and may be used frequently in passing situations.
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Another problem is Bo Nix. He's going to continue to be an option in general and near the goal line.
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Good point re: Nix. Seems like Estime's path to true fantasy production will be volume and efficiency. Tough to bank on that, but with a good defense keeping them in games and Payton's commitment to the run, it's possible. Just a limited ceiling if he's indeed not involved in the passing game.
 
Yes think will be due to Tracy bye, Brian Robinson possibly being out and Etienne being unusable. I have Bijan but in addition to the above I have a group of misfiring WRs - Flowers, DJ Moore, Waddle, Jamo so outside of Flowers not happy to be starting any of them in the WR2 or Flex position. Even WITH Brian Robinson starting I’ll most likely flex Estime
 
This guy could catch fire down the stretch. Offense trending up. Strong defense. May see volume. Has a lot more juice than J Willliams. Runs with power and has more wiggle than you would think.
 
The Finist said:
This guy could catch fire down the stretch. Offense trending up. Strong defense. May see volume. Has a lot more juice than J Willliams. Runs with power and has more wiggle than you would think.
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All accurate but in the NFL all subject to change on a whim
My problem is he has not shown any reception skill (no opportunity or ability YTBD)
Solid “1st/2nd down” RB is nice but unless he gets GL touches he is severely capped

ETA- owner of limited faith
 
I own him in multiple dynasty leagues. Im like a 3rd or 4th into him in most cases. I would probably sell at a profit now because I am not convinced the upside is to RB1 status.
 
Chaka said:
Picked him up as the best FA RB on my wire. Not terribly optimistic but 🤞
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I think he may get a shot. what I dont know is when exactly that happens. it might be right away, it could be in a couple weeks. but the run game hasnt been exceptionally good and I think there is a will to try someone else.

he was well regarded but I think (if my memory is correct) he had touble hanging onto the football at times. I think this may be what has held him back so far.
 
Ray_T said:
Chaka said:
Picked him up as the best FA RB on my wire. Not terribly optimistic but 🤞
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I think he may get a shot. what I dont know is when exactly that happens. it might be right away, it could be in a couple weeks. but the run game hasnt been exceptionally good and I think there is a will to try someone else.

he was well regarded but I think (if my memory is correct) he had touble hanging onto the football at times. I think this may be what has held him back so far.
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It looks like he got his first shot last week. Not sure how that projects going forward though.
 
Chaka said:
Ray_T said:
Chaka said:
Picked him up as the best FA RB on my wire. Not terribly optimistic but 🤞
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I think he may get a shot. what I dont know is when exactly that happens. it might be right away, it could be in a couple weeks. but the run game hasnt been exceptionally good and I think there is a will to try someone else.

he was well regarded but I think (if my memory is correct) he had touble hanging onto the football at times. I think this may be what has held him back so far.
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It looks like he got his first shot last week. Not sure how that projects going forward though.
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no. 14 carries is a cup of coffee.

if hes gonna get a real shot he needs 20 carries to see what he can do with a full workload.

I acknowledge its a good performance. the Chiefs Run D is among the best in the NFL (if not THE best)

I think he will get a full workload against a regular defense. Atlanta. if he puts up good numbers there, he may be the new starter in town.
 
Ray_T said:
Chaka said:
Ray_T said:
Chaka said:
Picked him up as the best FA RB on my wire. Not terribly optimistic but 🤞
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I think he may get a shot. what I dont know is when exactly that happens. it might be right away, it could be in a couple weeks. but the run game hasnt been exceptionally good and I think there is a will to try someone else.

he was well regarded but I think (if my memory is correct) he had touble hanging onto the football at times. I think this may be what has held him back so far.
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It looks like he got his first shot last week. Not sure how that projects going forward though.
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no. 14 carries is a cup of coffee.

if hes gonna get a real shot he needs 20 carries to see what he can do with a full workload.
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Disagree. He led the backfield in touches 14-5 over Javonte and McLaughlin. He out snapped them 26-24.

That was a proper audition and Payton has already said he sees Estime getting more opportunities.

But, he has yet to be a factor in the passing game (literally zero opportunities) so I would not hold my breath waiting for 20 touches.
 
Debating Estime, Mattison, and Gus Edwards.

Agreed with general take here. Estime needs to be on rosters and seems like a good player, but the path to fantasy upside is very limited. There's no way he has a useful fantasy week without a TD. And he's on a team where the RB's have 3 TD's all year.

Probably go Mattison, but I think Estime and Gus are pretty similar. Whether he ever takes the lead role or not, he looked fantastic last week, and Harbaugh giving Haskins a revenge TD aside, I would think Gus would be a better bet to score at TD than Estime most weeks.
 
Chaka said:
Ray_T said:
Chaka said:
Ray_T said:
Chaka said:
Picked him up as the best FA RB on my wire. Not terribly optimistic but 🤞
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I think he may get a shot. what I dont know is when exactly that happens. it might be right away, it could be in a couple weeks. but the run game hasnt been exceptionally good and I think there is a will to try someone else.

he was well regarded but I think (if my memory is correct) he had touble hanging onto the football at times. I think this may be what has held him back so far.
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It looks like he got his first shot last week. Not sure how that projects going forward though.
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no. 14 carries is a cup of coffee.

if hes gonna get a real shot he needs 20 carries to see what he can do with a full workload.
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Disagree. He led the backfield in touches 14-5 over Javonte and McLaughlin. He out snapped them 26-24.

That was a proper audition and Payton has already said he sees Estime getting more opportunities.

But, he has yet to be a factor in the passing game (literally zero opportunities) so I would not hold my breath waiting for 20 touches.
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Agree. He out touched the other two by a significant margin.

Honestly, the only fly in the ointment here could be his propensity to put the football on the ground. I think if he avoids that this week against ATL he's going to run away with this.

The opportunity is there this week. ATL is mediocre at best on D and Cousins hasn't proven he can do anything against a D that's not named Tampa Bay. I could see the gamescript being very friendly here.
 
My only concern with Estime is, as mentioned above, if he puts the ball on the ground. That could supplant him back to the bench in short order for quite awhile. Granted, that's a risk for any RB, but seems like he needs to prove ball security more than the typical incumbent.
 
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Estime hasn’t shown enough yet to be starting him on your fantasy lineup with any confidence. But he’s practically free to stash on your bench and see how he pans out. The Sean Payton RB that gets the lion’s share of carries usually is pretty useful for fantasy, so it’s worth speculating on Estime. As long as you’re treating him as depth for your team, a RB4 or desperation flex or bye filler, until he shows more then you’re doing it right. In my league all the starters and almost all direct backups are already accounted for, and I had Estime stashed for most of the season speculating in case Williams underperforms, gets injured, or moved off the roster during the season.
 
Lansdowne said:
Estime hasn’t shown enough yet to be starting him on your fantasy lineup with any confidence. But he’s practically free to stash on your bench and see how he pans out. The Sean Payton RB that gets the lion’s share of carries usually is pretty useful for fantasy, so it’s worth speculating on Estime. As long as you’re treating him as depth for your team, a RB4 or desperation flex or bye filler, until he shows more then you’re doing it right. In my league all the starters and almost all direct backups are already accounted for, and I had Estime stashed for most of the season speculating in case Williams underperforms, gets injured, or moved off the roster during the season.
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Would you stash him over a handcuff like Benson?
 
pollardsvision said:
Debating Estime, Mattison, and Gus Edwards.

Agreed with general take here. Estime needs to be on rosters and seems like a good player, but the path to fantasy upside is very limited. There's no way he has a useful fantasy week without a TD. And he's on a team where the RB's have 3 TD's all year.

Probably go Mattison, but I think Estime and Gus are pretty similar. Whether he ever takes the lead role or not, he looked fantastic last week, and Harbaugh giving Haskins a revenge TD aside, I would think Gus would be a better bet to score at TD than Estime most weeks.
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Couldn't this be seen as a positive? The other RBs have failed in getting in the endzone. Seems like they would want to try something different.
 
bcat01 said:
Lansdowne said:
Estime hasn’t shown enough yet to be starting him on your fantasy lineup with any confidence. But he’s practically free to stash on your bench and see how he pans out. The Sean Payton RB that gets the lion’s share of carries usually is pretty useful for fantasy, so it’s worth speculating on Estime. As long as you’re treating him as depth for your team, a RB4 or desperation flex or bye filler, until he shows more then you’re doing it right. In my league all the starters and almost all direct backups are already accounted for, and I had Estime stashed for most of the season speculating in case Williams underperforms, gets injured, or moved off the roster during the season.
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Would you stash him over a handcuff like Benson?
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That’s a tough one because I like Benson more if anything happens to Conner. But that’s a hypothetical scenario that may not come to pass this season. But be careful because Benson’s role looks like it may be increasing and he has shown some standalone value as of late. I wouldn’t drop Benson, you’ll be kicking yourself if Conner goes down to an injury. Estime may still be worth grabbing if you have someone more expendable to cut. But for now I’d consider Estime to be at the bottom tier of NFL starting RBs, same boat as someone like Dowdle or Mattison. Worth stashing because he has projectable volume, but not worth starting unless you have a need.
 
Lansdowne said:
Estime hasn’t shown enough yet to be starting him on your fantasy lineup with any confidence. But he’s practically free to stash on your bench and see how he pans out. The Sean Payton RB that gets the lion’s share of carries usually is pretty useful for fantasy, so it’s worth speculating on Estime. As long as you’re treating him as depth for your team, a RB4 or desperation flex or bye filler, until he shows more then you’re doing it right. In my league all the starters and almost all direct backups are already accounted for, and I had Estime stashed for most of the season speculating in case Williams underperforms, gets injured, or moved off the roster during the season.
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I mostly agree. but its an Good but not great performance against an elite run D. This same run d has not yielded 60 yards to anyone this year and they have faced some good ones.

King Henry, Kamara to name at least two off the top of my head.

he may not have shown enough but hes close in my mind already. of course if you are desperate, hes fine in a pinch but there is more risk with him as we dont know where this goes from here.

I think he will get a better workload this week.
 
kyoun1e said:
Honestly, the only fly in the ointment here could be his propensity to put the football on the ground
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This has been the scouting report on him out of college.

Hes more or less sat since hes been a pro. I will say sometimes fumbling problems can be fixed with coaching. teaching him a better way to hold the ball. but sometimes the problem cannot be resolved. but he has had some time on the bench to fix the problem so there is a chance he may be good to go. but from what I can tell, people with fumbling issues can overcome but likely at around 50% of the time only. and there seems to be no pattern to it either. its just a case of sometimes you can fix it and sometimes you cannot.
 

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How and when were Audric Estime and Javonte Williams utilized in Week 10?

Williams is one of the best RBs in pass pro, and that skill kept him on the field in Week 10.

However, the "trailing" split stands out.

Estime played 12 snaps while Williams and Jaleel McLaughlin played ZERO snaps.

Given Williams' pass-pro skill set, I'd assume that he would be on the field far more than Estime when trailing.

In fact, six of Estime's 15 rush attempts occurred when Denver was trailing.

Estime's seems to be game script-proof going into Week 11.

Bo Nix's dropback snap percentage:

Estime: 21%
Williams: 45%

3rd and long (3rd and 7) snap percentage (Denver only played five 3rd and long snaps):

Estime: 20%
Williams: 40%

Lead:

Estime: 11 snaps
Williams: 9 snaps

Tied:

Estime: 2
Williams: 7

Trailing:

Estime: 12
Williams: 0
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apparently i missed this last Thursday:

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Broncos OC Joe Lombardi said giving Audric Estimé the lion's share of the Broncos running-back carries last Sunday was a scenario where "you ride the hot hand."

"We feel good about him. But we feel good about Javonte. We feel good about Jaleel," Lombardi said. "But he was the one that was kind of on the good end of the reps. And [when] you keep gaining yards when you get the ball, we keep giving you the ball."
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I'm not sure how Estime was supposed to get hot after 1 carry the 2nd drive, but whatever. We now know the deal.
 
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