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RB Braelon Allen, NYJ (1 Viewer)
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The General
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20 years old my ***!
The Gator
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Scooby1974
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This kid is like the Kool-Aid man, running through brick walls.
VikingFrog
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Ooooh yeaaahhhhh!
Pietaster2
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So fun to watch. I made it my mission to get him on all of my rosters this week. He’s the definition of “upside.”
Would probably be a Mason-like player if Hall ever went down.
FarFromHome
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Guys got it. You can just see his skill set translates to being a productive NFL rb. The problem is the starter ahead of him is arguably one of the best rbs in the league.
rockaction
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No need to equivocate.
VikingFrog
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His handcuff will be this week’s waiver wire gem.
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ohio#1eaglesfan
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Got him for free this week. Loved his 20 yard touchdown against the Titans last week. Allen pulled a fake stiff arm, wax on, wax off move and ran right past the defender trying to club his arm down.
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RaidersAreOne
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Glad I picked him up off waivers this week.
I like Allen, but I think that's a bit much. Without injuries, Pacheco, Brooks, and Chubb would be over him. I'd certainly argue Pollard over him too.x.com
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I will agree that its still a mystery as to why Dallas went in with what they did and completely ignored RB in the draft. Also, that Cincy was so in on Moss.
That would be some really bad news for those of us who spent top-6 picks on Hall.
The General
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Brandon Jacobs lite vibes.
rockaction
Footballguy
Better, I think. He's less upright.
rockaction
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I totally disagree. Pacheco would not start over him. Allen's a better runner. His draft capital and his style and talent shine over Pacheco. Brooks I don't know about. Don't forget, when Allen first started stomping at Wisconsin, he was a phenom at seventeen.
Chubb is the best runner in football and Pollard is no slouch, so I won't argue for Allen over those guys. Tony Pollard looks like he's back after a year to heal. Chubb might never be Chubb again, but he deserves the benefit of the doubt. Doesn't mean that right now Allen wouldn't start for those three teams (Browns, Panthers, Chiefs). But starting over Pollard on the Titans is a stretch. Pollard and Spears are both really good backs.
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rockaction
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Lest anyone think I'm just a Jets fan or roster this guy in dynasty, I don't. I roster Hall and am nervous about the split. But that's just going to keep Hall fresh if you ask me. It'll be good for him if it doesn't take away too much in the red zone.
I tried to acquire Allen from a woman in our league that only has him. It's him, Perine, and three backup guys. She's dead last in the league. I tried a reasonable offer and even more than reasonable about a week and a half ago but he was all she had, so she declined. I couldn't pry him, and I wasn't spending ridiculous amounts because I can't afford it personnel and capital-wise. So I wrote her and wished her luck and told her that this guy was going to be really, really good. Maybe close to special.
I tried to acquire Allen from a woman in our league that only has him. It's him, Perine, and three backup guys. She's dead last in the league. I tried a reasonable offer and even more than reasonable about a week and a half ago but he was all she had, so she declined. I couldn't pry him, and I wasn't spending ridiculous amounts because I can't afford it personnel and capital-wise. So I wrote her and wished her luck and told her that this guy was going to be really, really good. Maybe close to special.
Pip's Invitation
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I had to because of all my injuries (CMC, Pacheco, Mixon, Kupp). The usage was more even than I thought it would be.
rockaction
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By the way, Hartitz (upthread) is not only a knowledgeable guy; he's also funny and says smarter stuff with his tongue jammed into his cheek than most people do when they're about to meet their maker or are forced to be serious and calm and called to account. Some people have that. Hartitz can be totally running a gag and say some prescient stuff.
Before this game, I was dangling B. Allen to the T. Benson owner so I could buy some J. Conner insurance.
No more.
This guy has overall RB1 upside and stand alone flex value.
Super impressed. The Jets got a steal in this guy. He could start on 2/3 of NFL teams right now. He's got power and sizzle.
No more.
This guy has overall RB1 upside and stand alone flex value.
Super impressed. The Jets got a steal in this guy. He could start on 2/3 of NFL teams right now. He's got power and sizzle.
JohnnyU
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I was down on Allen coming into the league, thinking that for a man his size he should do more finishing runs. I'm thinking I was too picky.
rockaction
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Benson's not a bad back. A little stiff, maybe, but not bad.
But I don't think he's as good as Braelon Allen.
But if you're talking dynasty then you kind of have to (although menobrown would disagree with me) think about the contracts and ages of Hall and Conner. Are the Jets going to jettison Hall and how do his and Allen's contracts coincide and overlap?
I just looked it up. Hall's ends in 2025 and Allen's in 2027, so that's two years of split work at best (most likely). Conner's is up this year. Something to consider, anyway.
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King of the Jungle
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Same, dropped him in dynasty and regret it (do not hold Breece). Kid looks like he has a future.
JohnnyU
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Actually I meant to say I was down on him finishing runs for a man his size, not short yardage in general. I think I was reading to much into that evaluation.
satch
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Tough situation for Allen owners. Without a Hall injury, you can’t really start him with high expectations, flex at best. You’re probably getting a bunch of trade offers, but you’re likely valuing him too for a realistic trade that could land you a good starter now.
The Allen owner in my league wants a current high-end RB1 straight up for Allen. I mean, I don’t blame him for trying, but that’s a bit much at this point. Allen may not be anything more than a flex at best all season. Even in dynasty, without a Hall injury, when is Allen going to be a must-start? I suppose if it turns into a legit 50/50 split Allen would be an RB2, which would suck for Hall owners.
Allen owners, what’s your asking price?
The Allen owner in my league wants a current high-end RB1 straight up for Allen. I mean, I don’t blame him for trying, but that’s a bit much at this point. Allen may not be anything more than a flex at best all season. Even in dynasty, without a Hall injury, when is Allen going to be a must-start? I suppose if it turns into a legit 50/50 split Allen would be an RB2, which would suck for Hall owners.
Allen owners, what’s your asking price?
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King of the Jungle
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They would be silly to give him up for anything equal or less than an RB1 in return imo. Hall goes down and they do not seemingly miss a beat in their RB1 slot. Absolutely no good reason to unload him for Hall holders unless it is an obvious overpay. CMC/Mason reinforces this thought.
rockaction
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I'm confused. Why would anybody pay an RB1 price for a split-share guy at best? I get why the owner wouldn't move him, but he's not going to get his asking price.
wlwiles
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I have both Hall and Allen - took Allen with the rookie 3.02 pick so got him pretty cheaply. At this point I don't see me trading Allen at all, frankly because he's worth more to me than anyone else so I'm not going to go offer him up to anyone, and I highly doubt anyone will blow me away with an offer. I'd value him about the same as Mason right now - feels like you're selling low for a second but asking too much for a first.
If you're a contender with Allen and looking to solidify your starters maybe you can flip him for a guy like Mixon or Aaron Jones for a title push. Or if you have a hole at WR maybe he could fetch an Adams or Evans type guy.
This is all speaking in dynasty terms, not redraft.
FarFromHome
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Redraft por league with 3 flex spots. Traded Allen to Hall owner for Ekeler. Allen upside is huge but I wanted consistent ppr points right now.
Big Nate
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Man, I regret not getting any shares of this guy. I wasn't out on him but not really high on him, mainly due to the landing spot. In my one dynasty league I have Hall but couldn't get Allen and my regret is not trying to go harder after him before the season started.
This guy has looked really good so far. It will be so expensive now to get him in dynasty, especially since this kid is only 20 still.
I'm almost willing to overpay for him to back up Hall, especially since Allen is so young. What is it going to cost?
This guy has looked really good so far. It will be so expensive now to get him in dynasty, especially since this kid is only 20 still.
I'm almost willing to overpay for him to back up Hall, especially since Allen is so young. What is it going to cost?
Winning IS Everything
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I am the Hall owner in my main keeper league and do not have Allen. I do, however have Charbonnet. The Walker owner in my league has Allen and is huring at RB. I see this as a possible win/win type trade if I can get it done.
Big Nate
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That could work out. First though make sure you use Charbs this week if you need him then trade him after this week.
Well worth it for me. KID could really ball, explodes thru hole and has alot of juke to him
Drake Hater
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Payout was better in PPR vs my 0.5 PPR league but I started him for upside, figuring the Jets would be playing with a lead and he'd get max splits. Like Breece, he can take it to the house at any moment. If he had hit pay dirt that 0.5 would have been golden.
Singing my tune here except for the Mason part.
I got Allen on both of my Breece teams, used 3.12 and 4.10. I guess due to Allen's age I could see a scenario where a really forward thinking owner in a rebuild valued him super high but even then I doubt they'd meet my asking price. It's security and a future starter in his own right. Breece's deal runs out after next season and a Jets beat writer was already speculating before the season that Allen could play into the Jets decision to extend him.
I would not trade him for Mason though, not in dynasty, no way really.
wlwiles
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Sorry...I worded that terribly. Ididn't mean to imply that I valued him equally to Mason as in I'd trade one for the other. His situation is similar to Mason's - he's most valuable to the CMC/Hall owner, and he really has no easy price if he were to trade hands.
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BladeRunner
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Swift has a hard time breaking wind, much less a tackle.
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satch
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I misspoke in my post. The Allen owner does not have Hall, but does want an RB1 in return for Allen.
Big Nate
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See this is the part where it becomes too much. That cost is if Allen was the starter but he will always be behind Hall. He might push for more of a split but Allen will never be the starter while Hall is there. Too expensive until Allen gets the starting job (i.e., no Hall). As good as Allen has looked paying that price is paying for his ceiling.
The General
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He was taking some big head on pops like Brandon used to...both players sort of bounce off each other and he keeps going.
