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RB Braelon Allen, NYJ (1 Viewer)

I think the hype train is getting a little overboard here, he's a slow plodder on a bottom 5 offense. I would take up beyond pick 120 or something but now he's getting pushed way too far
He was a great pick at July ADP. He's JAG at August ADP.
11th 12th round seems fine to me.
If he's there, thats fine, I saw him around 98 on ffpc this weekend and saw him go in the 8th in a couple of drafts
 
I think the hype train is getting a little overboard here, he's a slow plodder on a bottom 5 offense. I would take up beyond pick 120 or something but now he's getting pushed way too far
Hype train, sure - bad offense, no doubt. But Braelon Allen is not a slow plodder.
Who does he run away from in this clip? Nice run vs a Titans db back at 1:12 but he doesn't make a move the db just kind of froze.

for a guy who runs a 4.4 you dont exactly seem him turning a corner
Faked him out with a stiff arm then wax on waxed offed it away. The defenders are trained to chop the stiff arm down but missed which gave him the edge. I’ve only ever seen CMC use that fake
 
Allen looks a lot more explosive this year and is going to force defenders to make business decisions. He had one run this preseason where he concussed the db that hit his legs
Compare that with Hall’s dance moves behind the lines and it’s easy to see why Jets coaches like Allen.
 
Looked like he was on the way to a good game with an increased share of the workload, until he fumbled and got injured (almost fumbled again) on back to back plays. Any information on him and how long? Probably going to drop him for a few different options on WW, but would like to hear what he has going on before blindly doing so.
 
Any information on him and how long?
Last I checked, a little over an hour ago, just internet docs speculating MCL. Kind of big range of missed time depending on the grade, my guess is it's most likely not season ending but an IR stint is heading his way. They bye in week 9 so right now I'm thinking week 10 return as most likely best case scenario.

I do think he was heading to a big game as well. Really loved what the Jets were doing early in the game playing a lot of 21 personnel.
 
Kind of big range of missed time depending on the grade, my guess is it's most likely not season ending but an IR stint is heading his way. They bye in week 9 so right now I'm thinking week 10 return as most likely best case scenario.

Glenn deciding to have a guy who doesn't have a good broken tackle or forced missed tackle rate returning kicks at 235 or more is an interesting decision I wouldn't have made or even thought of.

It's as confusing as Glenn's use of his RBs in general.
 
Kind of big range of missed time depending on the grade, my guess is it's most likely not season ending but an IR stint is heading his way. They bye in week 9 so right now I'm thinking week 10 return as most likely best case scenario.

Glenn deciding to have a guy who doesn't have a good broken tackle or forced missed tackle rate returning kicks at 235 or more is an interesting decision I wouldn't have made or even thought of.

It's as confusing as Glenn's use of his RBs in general.
Most teams are using their back up running backs on kick returns this season.
 
Kind of big range of missed time depending on the grade, my guess is it's most likely not season ending but an IR stint is heading his way. They bye in week 9 so right now I'm thinking week 10 return as most likely best case scenario.

Glenn deciding to have a guy who doesn't have a good broken tackle or forced missed tackle rate returning kicks at 235 or more is an interesting decision I wouldn't have made or even thought of.

It's as confusing as Glenn's use of his RBs in general.
Most teams are using their back up running backs on kick returns this season.
True but he's not built like most backup RB's, and the way that game was going and the plans they might have had for him he might have been closer to 1B then pure backup.
 
Kind of big range of missed time depending on the grade, my guess is it's most likely not season ending but an IR stint is heading his way. They bye in week 9 so right now I'm thinking week 10 return as most likely best case scenario.

Glenn deciding to have a guy who doesn't have a good broken tackle or forced missed tackle rate returning kicks at 235 or more is an interesting decision I wouldn't have made or even thought of.

It's as confusing as Glenn's use of his RBs in general.
Most teams are using their back up running backs on kick returns this season.
True but he's not built like most backup RB's, and the way that game was going and the plans they might have had for him he might have been closer to 1B then pure backup.
Yeah he’s big and fast. I’ve seen quotes from coach’s saying the new kick off rules are essentially running plays now
 
Kind of big range of missed time depending on the grade, my guess is it's most likely not season ending but an IR stint is heading his way. They bye in week 9 so right now I'm thinking week 10 return as most likely best case scenario.

Glenn deciding to have a guy who doesn't have a good broken tackle or forced missed tackle rate returning kicks at 235 or more is an interesting decision I wouldn't have made or even thought of.

It's as confusing as Glenn's use of his RBs in general.
You noted that he had ZERO broken tackles during the preseason. Right? If I had known, that would’ve changed my valuation on him and he wouldn’t be on my team. At least I can comfortably drop him now.
 
Kind of big range of missed time depending on the grade, my guess is it's most likely not season ending but an IR stint is heading his way. They bye in week 9 so right now I'm thinking week 10 return as most likely best case scenario.

Glenn deciding to have a guy who doesn't have a good broken tackle or forced missed tackle rate returning kicks at 235 or more is an interesting decision I wouldn't have made or even thought of.

It's as confusing as Glenn's use of his RBs in general.
Probably a mental advantage to put Allen as KR. I don't think many guys would be fully willing to take Allen on head-on with a full head of steam. Big dude coming down hill at full speed? Oof...that's gonna hurt.
 
Kind of big range of missed time depending on the grade, my guess is it's most likely not season ending but an IR stint is heading his way. They bye in week 9 so right now I'm thinking week 10 return as most likely best case scenario.

Glenn deciding to have a guy who doesn't have a good broken tackle or forced missed tackle rate returning kicks at 235 or more is an interesting decision I wouldn't have made or even thought of.

It's as confusing as Glenn's use of his RBs in general.
You noted that he had ZERO broken tackles during the preseason. Right? If I had known, that would’ve changed my valuation on him and he wouldn’t be on my team. At least I can comfortably drop him now.

That came from a guy on Twitter and I want to be really sure that is accurate. He does not like Braelon Allen and I'm wondering if there's a bad faith thing going on with the guy saying that.

Oh snap, I know who he is. It's Pat Kerrane. I'd heard of him before and he sort of lets you know he won 2,000,000 dollars in a best ball tournament in 2023 so he decided to start his own fantasy thing. But I think he's been writing for a while. He does not think Braelon Allen is good at all. Yeah, I knew I'd heard the name. He's been writing a long time, actually and has written and specialized regarding RBs and did what appears to be pioneering maxims about RBs in both the first few rounds and the Dead Zone.
 
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Bummer. Was looking like he'd have stand alone value here and there (like last night) and now this. Was holding him in leagues in case B. Hall got traded as well.

Gotta think he's out a bit. And dropable.
 
Kind of big range of missed time depending on the grade, my guess is it's most likely not season ending but an IR stint is heading his way. They bye in week 9 so right now I'm thinking week 10 return as most likely best case scenario.

Glenn deciding to have a guy who doesn't have a good broken tackle or forced missed tackle rate returning kicks at 235 or more is an interesting decision I wouldn't have made or even thought of.

It's as confusing as Glenn's use of his RBs in general.
Most teams are using their back up running backs on kick returns this season.
True but he's not built like most backup RB's, and the way that game was going and the plans they might have had for him he might have been closer to 1B then pure backup.
Yeah he’s big and fast. I’ve seen quotes from coach’s saying the new kick off rules are essentially running plays now
I would note I think he was only returning kick offs because Nwangu was out.
 
Kind of big range of missed time depending on the grade, my guess is it's most likely not season ending but an IR stint is heading his way. They bye in week 9 so right now I'm thinking week 10 return as most likely best case scenario.

Glenn deciding to have a guy who doesn't have a good broken tackle or forced missed tackle rate returning kicks at 235 or more is an interesting decision I wouldn't have made or even thought of.

It's as confusing as Glenn's use of his RBs in general.
Most teams are using their back up running backs on kick returns this season.
True but he's not built like most backup RB's, and the way that game was going and the plans they might have had for him he might have been closer to 1B then pure backup.
Yeah he’s big and fast. I’ve seen quotes from coach’s saying the new kick off rules are essentially running plays now
I would note I think he was only returning kick offs because Nwangu was out.

Yeah, I see where you're going in regard to Aaron Glenn's culpability, but that isn't bringing Braelon's healthy knee back. I am perplexed by a lot of AG's decisions. They don't seem logically consistent nor well thought-out. It's sort of a trend I'm noticing. I get that a roster bereft of talent will have you make funny decisions, so maybe if I squint really hard and numb myself to pain I can see why the RB3 on his own team is running a 3rd and 6 draw with 3:30 left in the third quarter (he got stuffed for a loss of a yard) when the team is down fourteen.

But there's really no way around saying he's my RB1A by usage but he's also returning kicks when he's not noted for his long speed at all and he weighs at least 235 lbs.
 
Kind of big range of missed time depending on the grade, my guess is it's most likely not season ending but an IR stint is heading his way. They bye in week 9 so right now I'm thinking week 10 return as most likely best case scenario.

Glenn deciding to have a guy who doesn't have a good broken tackle or forced missed tackle rate returning kicks at 235 or more is an interesting decision I wouldn't have made or even thought of.

It's as confusing as Glenn's use of his RBs in general.
Most teams are using their back up running backs on kick returns this season.
True but he's not built like most backup RB's, and the way that game was going and the plans they might have had for him he might have been closer to 1B then pure backup.
Yeah he’s big and fast. I’ve seen quotes from coach’s saying the new kick off rules are essentially running plays now
I would note I think he was only returning kick offs because Nwangu was out.

Yeah, I see where you're going in regard to Aaron Glenn's culpability, but that isn't bringing Braelon's healthy knee back. I am perplexed by a lot of AG's decisions. They don't seem logically consistent nor well thought-out. It's sort of a trend I'm noticing. I get that a roster bereft of talent will have you make funny decisions, so maybe if I squint really hard and numb myself to pain I can see why the RB3 on his own team is running a 3rd and 6 draw with 3:30 left in the third quarter (he got stuffed for a loss of a yard) when the team is down fourteen.

But there's really no way around saying he's my RB1A by usage but he's also returning kicks when he's not noted for his long speed at all and he weighs at least 235 lbs.
Speaking of Isaiah Davis, what are your thoughts on him as a redraft stash? Looks like Allen is gonna be out for a while, and the Jets are run heavy and like to deploy an RBBC. Moreover, there’s always the potential Hall injury/ trade upside.
 
Kind of big range of missed time depending on the grade, my guess is it's most likely not season ending but an IR stint is heading his way. They bye in week 9 so right now I'm thinking week 10 return as most likely best case scenario.

Glenn deciding to have a guy who doesn't have a good broken tackle or forced missed tackle rate returning kicks at 235 or more is an interesting decision I wouldn't have made or even thought of.

It's as confusing as Glenn's use of his RBs in general.
Most teams are using their back up running backs on kick returns this season.
True but he's not built like most backup RB's, and the way that game was going and the plans they might have had for him he might have been closer to 1B then pure backup.
Yeah he’s big and fast. I’ve seen quotes from coach’s saying the new kick off rules are essentially running plays now
I would note I think he was only returning kick offs because Nwangu was out.

Yeah, I see where you're going in regard to Aaron Glenn's culpability, but that isn't bringing Braelon's healthy knee back. I am perplexed by a lot of AG's decisions. They don't seem logically consistent nor well thought-out. It's sort of a trend I'm noticing. I get that a roster bereft of talent will have you make funny decisions, so maybe if I squint really hard and numb myself to pain I can see why the RB3 on his own team is running a 3rd and 6 draw with 3:30 left in the third quarter (he got stuffed for a loss of a yard) when the team is down fourteen.

But there's really no way around saying he's my RB1A by usage but he's also returning kicks when he's not noted for his long speed at all and he weighs at least 235 lbs.
Speaking of Isaiah Davis, what are your thoughts on him as a redraft stash? Looks like Allen is gonna be out for a while, and the Jets are run heavy and like to deploy an RBBC. Moreover, there’s always the potential Hall injury/ trade upside.

I don't know a whole ton. I know that under the old staff he sort of took over for Braelon as the RB2. He got very high grades from PFF coming out of FCS South Dakota State. Allen was graded 82 last year running the football and Davis was at 76.6. Hall scored a 62.

I don't know really what else to tell you. I think Davis is as good as Allen, but neither have gotten enough run to really know.
 
Kind of big range of missed time depending on the grade, my guess is it's most likely not season ending but an IR stint is heading his way. They bye in week 9 so right now I'm thinking week 10 return as most likely best case scenario.

Glenn deciding to have a guy who doesn't have a good broken tackle or forced missed tackle rate returning kicks at 235 or more is an interesting decision I wouldn't have made or even thought of.

It's as confusing as Glenn's use of his RBs in general.
Most teams are using their back up running backs on kick returns this season.
True but he's not built like most backup RB's, and the way that game was going and the plans they might have had for him he might have been closer to 1B then pure backup.
Yeah he’s big and fast. I’ve seen quotes from coach’s saying the new kick off rules are essentially running plays now
I would note I think he was only returning kick offs because Nwangu was out.

Yeah, I see where you're going in regard to Aaron Glenn's culpability, but that isn't bringing Braelon's healthy knee back. I am perplexed by a lot of AG's decisions. They don't seem logically consistent nor well thought-out. It's sort of a trend I'm noticing. I get that a roster bereft of talent will have you make funny decisions, so maybe if I squint really hard and numb myself to pain I can see why the RB3 on his own team is running a 3rd and 6 draw with 3:30 left in the third quarter (he got stuffed for a loss of a yard) when the team is down fourteen.

But there's really no way around saying he's my RB1A by usage but he's also returning kicks when he's not noted for his long speed at all and he weighs at least 235 lbs.
Speaking of Isaiah Davis, what are your thoughts on him as a redraft stash? Looks like Allen is gonna be out for a while, and the Jets are run heavy and like to deploy an RBBC. Moreover, there’s always the potential Hall injury/ trade upside.
Sneaky sneaky pick up lol. Add the fact that Fields opens things up for the rbs
 
I'll never understand the hype this guy gets (got)

You know what? He was about to kill my fantasy team, but I'm thin with my roster and a Jets fan, so I just feel bad for him that the coach has him returning kicks at his height and weight. I just . . . he doesn't have long speed, so what is Glenn thinking?

I feel bad for the young man. I don't think he's a great back. I think Davis might be better than him. I know that if the Jets decide to make Khalil Herbert the backup to Breece Hall I'm going to have a ****fit.

I figured they might go with someone young and dynamic like Montrell Johnson or maybe Israel Abanikanda could come back and have a happy reunion, but instead we chose the retread.
 
I'll never understand the hype this guy gets (got)
I admit to buying into the hype. A lot of the fantasy experts were talking him up like he’s Derrick Henry 2.0; saying he’s 240 lbs, runs a 4.4, only 21 y/o and has a lot of growth upside, etc. So it was difficult to ignore. (I’d note that I also repeatedly fell for the AJ Dillon hype.)
 
Isaiah Davis seems a good handcuff for Hall owner now.
This week seems like a good amount of options, maybe enough to wait to pick up after waivers. If league allows of course.
they signed Khalil Herbert

Yes, they did. I don't exactly know what the plan is with Herbert. Herbert doesn't catch the ball well nor is he good in pass protection, which seemed to be his downfall in Chicago.
 
Is he droppable in a Keeper/Dynasty league if you have multiple guys on IR/Out/Byes with limited roster space?

You sound like you want to drop him. I have a difficult time envisioning Breece Hall back with the Jets next year, but my assessment is as good as . . . well . . . just remember Breece's contract is up next year and Allen will have two more (?)
 

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