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RB Cam Akers, Free Agent (5 Viewers)
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grateful zed
Footballguy
he is listed as LAR RB1, is that legit?
Blick
Footballguy
Well he was LAR’s RB1 in the playoffs after coming back sooner than expected from injury. So I would say yes.
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TampaMike19
Footballguy
Pretty concerned with him but McVay wants to use a guy that gets 70% of the workload. Always has, always will...which makes Akers the one to own here. Don't see any world HENDO supplants him...
Mister CIA
Footballguy
I wonder how many have Akers/Henderson handcuffed. I'll bet it's a surprisingly low number.
osubuckeyeman
Footballguy
Who is the backup for the Rams?
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I only have a couple shares of Akers but in both cases I had/have Sony Michel, obviously doesn't matter anymore but for a second there I had the handcuff. I'm not real big on handcuffing in general and a lot of owners aren't either. I pretty much only play FFPC where rosters are short. That said I do think Akers/Henderson is one worth having. I imagine most Henderson owners would sell him for a ham sandwich at this point.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Went on the 2/3 turn tonight as the 2.12 in one of my leagues, was a little shocked.
Agree. Should be far better value there than him.
In CBSSports, he was ranked #21. In ESPN, #10. That's standard scoring as of last Wednesday. In my draft this past Saturday, he was RB #25 in a 14 team league. That team had Henry at 1.02, so worth the risk that late.
But Akers averaged 2.5 ypc after he came back last year. Per fantasy doctor Jesse Morse, it's uncommon for a RB to come back the same from an achilles tear. D Foreman is an exception last year, but he was 4 years removed from his injury. Have surgery techniques improved that much?
Achilles injuries in RBs: Cam Akers & James Robinson
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Phantom Knight
Footballguy
He went in the 8th round in our (10-team 15 round draft).
Tanner9919
Footballguy
reports are that he's unable to do anything but one-cut runs, and always on the non-injured, non torn Achilles' foot. I cannot think of a bigger bust to come down the turnpike than Cam Akers. Well, maybe CMC what with his 10 games played out of the last 30 games..eesh. There has never been a RB to recover from an Achilles' to return to anything even close to what he was before the injury. D'onta Foreman? yeah took him like 4 years to do so. Marlon Mack? lol. yeah OK.
This is Henderson's backfield plain and simple. Akers will come out and look like he's running in mud - just like last season. McVay is coy about his injuries ala Bellichick, but make no doubt about it, Henderson is THE RB to own here. it's so painfully obvious that the Rams will use DH as their go to guy here. Oh, and factor in Stafford's ailing elbow, and this team screams run run run all over it. Short dumps to the RBs. Stafford won't last the season his elbow is doomed. Then a no name backup takes over. Enter the strong Rams running game, led by DH.
This is Henderson's backfield plain and simple. Akers will come out and look like he's running in mud - just like last season. McVay is coy about his injuries ala Bellichick, but make no doubt about it, Henderson is THE RB to own here. it's so painfully obvious that the Rams will use DH as their go to guy here. Oh, and factor in Stafford's ailing elbow, and this team screams run run run all over it. Short dumps to the RBs. Stafford won't last the season his elbow is doomed. Then a no name backup takes over. Enter the strong Rams running game, led by DH.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Let's assume it plays out exactly as you describe it.
-We're painting a picture like McVay is purposely sabotaging his own team, that's quite a lot to digest because apparently he can't see what you can from the comforts of your own home. If Akers is done from being able to even get the ball back to the line of scrimmage, you've anointed Henderson as the RB starter and having complete control of the outcome for the Rams backfield.
-I'm trying to make a funny here because I think if you're correct then one of 2 things will happen or should have happened. Why didn't the Rams draft a RB? Why didn't they ry to keep Michel? Or finally, why not make a trade here late before the season starts and bring in somebody like a Kareem Hunt?
I appreciate you unwrapping the severity of the injury. God as my witness, somebody drafted Akers the other night at the end of the 2nd round on the turn, you would have spit out your beer while he was at the podium.
I'm actually thinking about making a trade FOR Henderson but he wasn't very good last year outside of maybe a game or two, not that optimistic and think they will bring in a name to strengthen the backfield.
I don't know enough about anyone they roster outside of Akers and Henderson.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
He had about 800 total yards and 8 TDs before he got injured midway through the season. I’d have to check his game logs, but I remember him having a pretty great season to start.
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Banger
Footballguy
This is the first I'm hearing this about the ability to cut one way. It wouldn't be a shock considering the injury but I can't imagine the Rams promoting him and keeping him as their #1 back if this was the case. I have Henderson in most leagues because I wasn't sold on Akers and want the RB in this offense and Henderson is pretty much free in most leagues.
Blick
Footballguy
This may be the case, but I can't believe LA wouldn't have made a move at RB. There is no way they would enter the year with one decent RB in Henderson considering his injury history. Its basically why they drafted Akers in the first place.
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jtd13
Footballguy
Source?
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Drake Hater
Footballguy
Stafford's elbow being doomed is the larger potential issue here and without a credible source that entire post is suspect.
Chaka
Footballguy
There are a lot of reasons, like wanting to see where their young, talented RB was physically in mini-camp & TC before making a rash move. They have the luxury to do that because they know there is a very good chance that they can get someone of Michel's caliber today for the vet minimum. Or specifically Michel seeing as he was released yesterday.
RB is a very fungible position, we'll see how the Rams really feel about him after rosters across the league shrink to 53.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
He also barely touched the ball the 2nd Half of the season
skillz
Footballguy
If they sign Michel then it will be time to worry about Akers’ ability to start the season healthy.
joffer
Footballguy
It’s almost verbatim from a video that I saw on YouTube. Having trouble finding it at the moment.
jtd13
Footballguy
That seems like a pretty smart football move given all of Akers, hendo, and Williams have had issues this offseason. I wouldn't really consider that move an indication of Akers availability.
That said, Michel has also been dinged up most of the offseason, so maybe it wouldn't have that smart.
Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
I got a feeling Akers is going to turn into one of those habitual "my knee has a boo boo" kind of guys.
Meanwhile, Henderson is getting undervalued due to what Akers COULD be.
Meanwhile, Henderson is getting undervalued due to what Akers COULD be.
Deamon
Footballguy
Nice, I like the stack. Huge payday if one goes down, and if they're both healthy, they should give you at least FLEX value there. If they both go down is the only way taking both of them blows up in your face.
Deamon
Footballguy
I'm terrified of this happening. I hope Michel left the Rams on really bad terms and that him and McVay are mortal enemies.
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
Isn't that who Henderson already is?
foxco
Footballguy
I think you're selling Henderson short; he's also had ankle, thigh, rib and thumb injuries, so much better than Akers at getting injured IMO.
Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
I like RBs who haven't torn their Achilles, thank you.
Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
Cam Akers career YPC = 4.2
Darrell Williams career YPC = 4.5
Even prior to rupturing his achilles, he was less productive than Henderson. Receptions? Akers has 14 receptions in 14 games played. Henderson has 49 in 40 games played. Did I mention that Henderson has NEVER fumbled the ball in 326 carries? Akers has 1 fumble and a torn achilles in just 150 carries.
Henderson is da guy, people just don't realize that because Akers came to town and took all the shine. Henderson was a 3rd round pick, he's no slouch!!
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
No, Henderson is valued correctly for a dude softer than warm butter.
I had him last season & had to watch plodding Sony friggin “cut by the dolphins” Michel take his job. It was painful.
Henderson isn’t going to be a jackpot if Akers goes down.
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Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
No way. Akers ADP is 3.10 for a guy with an Achilles injury that we know a RB has never come back to be productive from. Henderson who may be the Week 1 starter in a VERY GOOD offense, is going at 10.03.
Sorry but you're wrong and groupthink is wrong on this one. Have fun with your RB with a torn achilles who had his first "full speed" workout of the offseason on Monday. You can take the guy in the timeshare with a torn achilles in the late 3rd / early 4th if you want, but I'd rather take his counterpart with the higher YPC and pass catching role 6 rounds later, who hasn't torn his achilles
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I didn’t draft Akers.
Who am I supposed to “have fun” with? I’m not high on either this year.
I just know Henderson’s track record. I’m literally not wrong. He lost his job to Sony last year, and barely sniffed the field some games. He also suffered numerous injuries.
Good luck.
Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
Versus Akers track record? Versus the track record of no RB ever coming back to form after tearing an Achilles? Coming back "into form" for Akers would be 4.2 YPC. I don't care who you own, if you're arguing against Henderson in favor of a guy who averaged less yards per carry prior to tearing his Achilles, it's just a wrong argument to have.
I get that Henderson is not the beacon of health but he has in fact, never torn his Achilles and has outproduced in every metric that is meaningful to FF players. If I had to choose between the guy who tore his Achilles vs the guy who hasn't and the talent is approximately the same, I know who I'm taking. Maybe you don't remember Marlon Mack? Marlon Mack looked like the NEXT GUY at RB. Then he tore his Achilles and can't make the TEXANS ROSTER a team forecasted to win 5 or less games.
We can agree to disagree. This is just a situation where the numbers are clear about RBs who tear their Achilles. There's no exception to the rule, it's a death knell for that position. I don't expect the guy who averaged 4.2YPC prior to tearing his Achilles to be the guy who bucks the trend.
Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
I already told you. I'm not discussing this further. If your options are a RB who tore his Achilles versus one who hasn't, you take the one that hasn't. If you disagree, I'm sorry but you're wrong and I won't waste my time having the discussion.
Good luck with your team, we can discuss this later in the season and compare notes.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
And yet here you are, discussing it further.
That’s ok. You can have the last word. I’ve set a reminder to bump this in week 12. Good luck with Henderson.
Stuart Ullman
Footballguy
And yet here you are, discussing it further.
That’s ok. You can have the last word. I’ve set a reminder to bump this in week 12. Good luck with Henderson.
Explaining I'm not going to discuss isn't discussion, champ. If I was discussing it further, I would have tried to continue to change your mind. I don't care what you think, you're one person. There's thousands of posters here, someone like you is bound to be wrong and think they're right. It would be more surprising if somebody didn't disagree with thousands of unique opinions here. Achilles tears mark the end of the road for RB.
Not a new phenomena. Do the research. Here's an article from 2013... this isn't a new thing. Have a great season.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
You’d probably also include something like this to make one final point “If your options are a RB who tore his Achilles versus one who hasn't, you take the one that hasn't. If you disagree, I'm sorry but you're wrong and I won't waste my time having the discussion.”
And it’s a discussion board. I can continue to discuss it as long as I like. You’re not in charge here, “champ”.
Again, I wish you luck, and I’ll be back in week 12 to see how your Henderson predictions are going. I think that’s fair.
Ps - I continue to not be high on Akers, but thank you for the irrelevant link.
