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RB Cam Skattebo, NYG (11 Viewers)

My league doesn't lock FAs. Tracy on the wire. Had him on the add/drop screen before kickoff today, someone else snagged him as I stepped out for just a minute when the injury happened.

I really like Skattebo as a player, but was him getting injured not the easiest injury prediction ever?. I know, it was an ankle, but still am I the only one that thought this way? I gave him like 2-3 more games max. Sucks, because he's awesome.
 
Forget fantasy, this sucks for NFL fans. Skat was different and a lot of fun to root for. Hopefully, he can rehab and make a full recovery.

Man, you said it. I posted this in the game thread but wanted to put it here instead because this is probably where it belongs for people who are sick from this but click the link anyway. They might need to commiserate. You are spot-on. It’s just awful. We can hope for a full recovery. Maybe the awfulness we saw is something that can be set and then heal so that his leg is solid and he is able to leap and pivot as adroitly and as solidly as he did before this happened.

I’m sick for Skattebo. Sometimes these things just take the air out of a day. He was exciting, man. He moved like a pro—like the best of them, just with a unique style and in his own way—and not a ton of people thought he would. He was underestimated by a lot of people, myself included.

This hurts his fans, both old and new, and the Giants. I don’t like how it bodes for his career one bit.

The Giants have these guys that are these cult heroes from everywhere remote in relation to NYC. They’re like the city's population itself. So many of its notables and truest sons and daughters are from other places. But the Giants. One day these guys are just resplendent and tearing up the NFL and then you’re reminded that the game can be balletic but is often just a tragic reminder of frailty and mortality.

Gruesome. Sucks.
 
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I haven't been this flattened by an injury in a long time. Im a giants fan foremost and I own some Skatteboo, and I'll say I dont think I loved loved him, and think he's a mid talent. But he did so much for this team, was a new voice, energy and identity and I think you saw in the reaction of his teammates what his impact in a short time was.

Giants have lost many guys through the years and injuries are part of the game, from Sehorn to Saquan to Odell to Nabers this year and these things always suck but you accept they're part of the game. Likewise, you know Skat had an injury profile based on how he plays. He was sort of an injury waiting to happen. But not like this and nothing like this was in my mind.

Troubling to me they can't get him home 80 miles to let the team docs handle him and he's going for surgery in philly tonight.

Really sucks
 
I’m really really hoping he doesn’t get an infection. That just makes me shake my head.

I don’t like this. I think I’m forgetting about his career and I’m more worried about his bodily integrity and hygiene.

Get well, my bespoke grilled-out dude.
 
Yuck. The NFL can't have fun storylines. Everyone will be rooting for hiim if they weren't already.

I know it's way too early, but are we hearing anything about what this means for 2026 forward? Potentially, better prognosis than returning from an ACL tear? Torn achiles? Much worse? A quick google search points to the Robert Edwards pro-bowl incident as another NFL RB that suffered a dislocated ankle "with multiple ligament tears". I'm not sure how closely the two can be compared at this point, but needless to say this wasn't the comparison I was hoping to see given the impact to Edwards' career.

Questions that will eventually have to be asked for fantasy: Do the Giants acquire someone before the deadline for the remainder of this season? Do they have to go back to the well in the 2026 draft with a relevant RB selection in the top 2-4 rounds?
 
Yuck. The NFL can't have fun storylines. Everyone will be rooting for hiim if they weren't already.

I know it's way too early, but are we hearing anything about what this means for 2026 forward? Potentially, better prognosis than returning from an ACL tear? Torn achiles? Much worse? A quick google search points to the Robert Edwards pro-bowl incident as another NFL RB that suffered a dislocated ankle "with multiple ligament tears". I'm not sure how closely the two can be compared at this point, but needless to say this wasn't the comparison I was hoping to see given the impact to Edwards' career.

Questions that will eventually have to be asked for fantasy: Do the Giants acquire someone before the deadline for the remainder of this season? Do they have to go back to the well in the 2026 draft with a relevant RB selection in the top 2-4 rounds?

It was brutal and my gut reaction was that it was just . . . whatever, I'm not a doctor. At all. We'll find out when we find out. That sort of adds to the misery of it.

I don't know what they'll do at RB. I roster Tracy in dynasty, which is why I was talking about Skattebo before the year, and not always positively, but not really because of Tracy, if that makes sense—I try with all my power to be both fair and for full disclosure so that people can judge whether it's me being biased or not. I'm generally harder on the guys I roster than not. Anyway, Tracy was doing really well last year and their line got banged up, and he didn't do as well after that. It was tough sledding and he hurt his ankle at one point, which reduced his productivity. I don't think PFF was ever enamored of him in terms of grades or secondary stats. I was much more impressed last year than I am this year, if that makes sense, and I'm not sure what really happened. I don't know how the Giants view him nor do I know what they will do at the deadline. I think the draft is another year of wondering if they will or won't, and it probably will help to know who's going to be doing the drafting. I don't see this crew making it intact, but weirder things have happened and this draft was really good for Schoen.

So there you go. One reference point.
 
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Yuck. The NFL can't have fun storylines. Everyone will be rooting for hiim if they weren't already.

I know it's way too early, but are we hearing anything about what this means for 2026 forward? Potentially, better prognosis than returning from an ACL tear? Torn achiles? Much worse? A quick google search points to the Robert Edwards pro-bowl incident as another NFL RB that suffered a dislocated ankle "with multiple ligament tears". I'm not sure how closely the two can be compared at this point, but needless to say this wasn't the comparison I was hoping to see given the impact to Edwards' career.

Questions that will eventually have to be asked for fantasy: Do the Giants acquire someone before the deadline for the remainder of this season? Do they have to go back to the well in the 2026 draft with a relevant RB selection in the top 2-4 rounds?

It was brutal and my gut reaction was that it was just . . . whatever, I'm not a doctor. At all. We'll find out when we find out. That sort of adds to the misery of it.

I don't know what they'll do at RB. I roster Tracy in dynasty, which is why I was talking about Skattebo before the year, and not always positively, but not really because of Tracy, if that makes sense—I try with all my power to be both fair and for full disclosure so that people can judge whether it's me or not. He was doing really well and their line got banged up last year and he didn't do as well after. I don't think PFF was ever enamored of him in terms of grades or secondary stats. I was much more impressed last year than I am this year, if that makes sense, and I'm not sure what really happened. I don't know how they view him or what they will do at the deadline. I think the draft is another year of wondering if they will or won't, and it probably will help to know who's going to be doing the drafting. I don't see this crew making it intact, but weirder things have happened and this draft was really good for Schoen.

So there you go. One reference point.

Yeah, that's really where we're at. Hoping for zero complications, 100% full recovery, and a runway that's left wide open for him to pick up exactly where he left off once he gets back. Sadly, that's not how these usually work out, but I guess it'll make for that much better of a storyline when he breaks the odds and comes back.

I'm part of the 11/12 that wished he was on my dynasty team. **I drafted him at 2.3, but made the mistake of thinking 32 NFL teams knew what they were doing passing on him in the first 3 rounds. I traded him with Kincaid to get Tetairoa following his first productive fantasy game, which also coincided with the Tracy injury. Obviously, this turned out to be selling short, nowhere near the peak that Skattebo mania reached in the following weeks.**

No real point in trying to get ahead of anything since the Skattebo manager is probably nowhere near a point of considering a trade for weeks, if ever. If they're even going to consider it, it's under the assumption he comes back 100% of where he left off, which means there's probably not a feasible buy window for this season (or at least not one that would be shrewd). If he returns unphased, it's probably going to benefit the same folks who have enjoyed the spoils of this run.
 
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Sold on the Tracy injury spike, which was nowhere near the peak that he soared. No real point in trying to get ahead of anything since the Skattebo manager is probably nowhere near a point of considering a trade for weeks, if ever. If they're even going to consider it, it's under the assumption he comes back 100% of where he left off, which means there's probably not a feasible buy window for this season (or at least not one that would be shrewd). If he returns unphased, it's probably going to benefit the same folks who have enjoyed the spoils of this run.

I'm a little confused by that first sentence and I write like that also (omitting the subject), which I need to stop doing. I'm flummoxed and I've tried to read it about five times. Who sold? And did they sell Tracy or Skattebo, and when? I'm clueless.

I get the sentences after that—at least I think I do. Nobody is getting a discount on Skattebo this season post-injury because nobody is ready to emotionally deal him yet, and if they are they're selling him as if he went on vacation to Cancun instead of what we all saw, and that mindset will run pretty much through the offseason and into next year, which is when he's supposed to come back, and if he lives up to that 100% expectation, then they wouldn't deal him anyway and he'll benefit them in the end.

I'm not positive that's true of everybody but it's certainly firmly in Occam's territory.
 
Starting Skat over Barkley, feeling gross about it but I have to teach Saquon a lesson after the mediocre production we've seen. Maybe it'll light a fire under him- win/win regardless.

Don't do it. You will single handedly jinx both players into opposite returns. There are better ways to motivate.

#StaycalmBarkley
You tried to warn me. Sorry everybody...

LawFitz, your prophetic powers are noted.
 
Starting Skat over Barkley, feeling gross about it but I have to teach Saquon a lesson after the mediocre production we've seen. Maybe it'll light a fire under him- win/win regardless.

Don't do it. You will single handedly jinx both players into opposite returns. There are better ways to motivate.

#StaycalmBarkley
You tried to warn me. Sorry everybody...

LawFitz, your prophetic powers are noted.
I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle...
 
I think your question is valid at this point. The answer is yes surgery may not go well, but to answer your question at this point is no one would know that at this point unless it was a terrible surgeon/procedure.
That was my point - you’ll never hear the surgery didn’t go well right after the fact. If it turns out later on that a guy didn’t recover well, that’s a different story - not as if the surgeon got his online medical degree from the University of Tijuana or something.
 
dislocated ankle
fibula fracture
deltoid ligament rupture

Per X:
Ian Rapoport

Giants RB Cam Skattebo, who was placed on IR yesterday, suffered not only a dislocated ankle, but also a fibula fracture and deltoid ligament rupture, sources say.
 
What's his trade value? A guy put him on the block this morning in a dynasty / devy 12 team league.

Everything sounds promising. I have to assume that anyone selling will take no less than his 2026 outlook assuming full recovery and picking up right where he left off. If you're concerned about any complications, reoccurrence of injury, Tracy making a big statement, or the Giants adding something of substance to their RB room, I don't think you'll be able to make a deal.

I'm also toying with the idea of making an offer. Psychologically, I think it's at least one week or two too early to put in their queue. However, the Skattebo owner in my league is in win-now mode and definitely could use the RB help, so might tolerate my dynasty ambulance chasing. That said, I don't think Vidal, Goedert, and a 2nd is going to tempt him. KTC says it's an overpay, but I disagree and can make a case for also tossing in a '27 2nd. Still wouldn't be surprised if it's rejected. Don't have a '26 1st and don't have a better back to offer than Vidal, so probably no way to get it done.

Given that there is at least some level of risk that Skattebo isn't walking right back into a workhorse role in '26, and might have a slightly higher re-injury risk going forward, I'm almost inclined to just stay away from it and root for the player from afar (or just target in my '26 redraft league).
 
What's his trade value? A guy put him on the block this morning in a dynasty / devy 12 team league.
I'd say a late 1st/early 2nd is considered "fair" value; he just feels like such a dichotomous player where some people absolutely love him and others think he's nothing special (plus a potential injury risk/shortened career) the buyer and seller will rarely match up on value.

As an owner and someone who falls into the "believer" group, I don't think I'd sell for a late 1st, especially not a 2026 late 1st. Whereas I can already see people replying to this saying they would never dream of offering a future 1st for him, maybe not even a 2nd. I mean some people here still think he and Tracy are equal talents...

Probably need a unique situation where the Cam owner falls into the non-believer/injury risk group AND is willing to basically accept less than consensus (at least in pick value). Probably be "easier" to pull some player for player trade where values skew wider.
 
What's his trade value? A guy put him on the block this morning in a dynasty / devy 12 team league.
I'd say a late 1st/early 2nd is considered "fair" value; he just feels like such a dichotomous player where some people absolutely love him and others think he's nothing special (plus a potential injury risk/shortened career) the buyer and seller will rarely match up on value.

As an owner and someone who falls into the "believer" group, I don't think I'd sell for a late 1st, especially not a 2026 late 1st. Whereas I can already see people replying to this saying they would never dream of offering a future 1st for him, maybe not even a 2nd. I mean some people here still think he and Tracy are equal talents...

Probably need a unique situation where the Cam owner falls into the non-believer/injury risk group AND is willing to basically accept less than consensus (at least in pick value). Probably be "easier" to pull some player for player trade where values skew wider.
A late 1st early 2nd? You do realize he just had a gruesome injury and who knows if he will ever be the same. It's almost as if the injury is ignored. If he wasn't hurt that would be his value.
 
What's his trade value? A guy put him on the block this morning in a dynasty / devy 12 team league.
I'd say a late 1st/early 2nd is considered "fair" value; he just feels like such a dichotomous player where some people absolutely love him and others think he's nothing special (plus a potential injury risk/shortened career) the buyer and seller will rarely match up on value.

As an owner and someone who falls into the "believer" group, I don't think I'd sell for a late 1st, especially not a 2026 late 1st. Whereas I can already see people replying to this saying they would never dream of offering a future 1st for him, maybe not even a 2nd. I mean some people here still think he and Tracy are equal talents...

Probably need a unique situation where the Cam owner falls into the non-believer/injury risk group AND is willing to basically accept less than consensus (at least in pick value). Probably be "easier" to pull some player for player trade where values skew wider.

Completely fair. I would offer my '26 late 1st if I had it and completely understand why the Skattebo owner wouldn't be interested. I think you can also add contender playing for this year into the unique situation for getting a deal done. Most are going to be heartbroken right now, but if you can restrain yourself for a week, they might start to see it as a trading chip to win this year.
 
What's his trade value? A guy put him on the block this morning in a dynasty / devy 12 team league.
I'd say a late 1st/early 2nd is considered "fair" value; he just feels like such a dichotomous player where some people absolutely love him and others think he's nothing special (plus a potential injury risk/shortened career) the buyer and seller will rarely match up on value.

As an owner and someone who falls into the "believer" group, I don't think I'd sell for a late 1st, especially not a 2026 late 1st. Whereas I can already see people replying to this saying they would never dream of offering a future 1st for him, maybe not even a 2nd. I mean some people here still think he and Tracy are equal talents...

Probably need a unique situation where the Cam owner falls into the non-believer/injury risk group AND is willing to basically accept less than consensus (at least in pick value). Probably be "easier" to pull some player for player trade where values skew wider.
A late 1st early 2nd? You do realize he just had a gruesome injury and who knows if he will ever be the same. It's almost as if the injury is ignored. If he wasn't hurt that would be his value.

That's the thing. You're going to have to assume he's not hurt and no worse for the wear going into '26 or you're not getting a deal done. Probably not a wise buy in most leagues right now, but will vary by needs and characteristics of whoever owns him.
 
trade value?

at this point, you have to hope he can jog again? Sounds like his ankle is going to be unstable the rest of his life?
 
trade value?

at this point, you have to hope he can jog again? Sounds like his ankle is going to be unstable the rest of his life?

Source? When I plugged it in trying to find RB comparisons, google AI spit out the Robert Edwards, but nowhere near the same (life threatening, near amputatation). The only thing I've seen since is full recovery expected six months out, in time for OTAs.
 
What's his trade value? A guy put him on the block this morning in a dynasty / devy 12 team league.
I'd say a late 1st/early 2nd is considered "fair" value; he just feels like such a dichotomous player where some people absolutely love him and others think he's nothing special (plus a potential injury risk/shortened career) the buyer and seller will rarely match up on value.

As an owner and someone who falls into the "believer" group, I don't think I'd sell for a late 1st, especially not a 2026 late 1st. Whereas I can already see people replying to this saying they would never dream of offering a future 1st for him, maybe not even a 2nd. I mean some people here still think he and Tracy are equal talents...

Probably need a unique situation where the Cam owner falls into the non-believer/injury risk group AND is willing to basically accept less than consensus (at least in pick value). Probably be "easier" to pull some player for player trade where values skew wider.
A late 1st early 2nd? You do realize he just had a gruesome injury and who knows if he will ever be the same. It's almost as if the injury is ignored. If he wasn't hurt that would be his value.
Lol I'll reiterate:

" Whereas I can already see people replying to this saying they would never dream of offering a future 1st for him, maybe not even a 2nd. I mean some people here still think he and Tracy are equal talents..."

All I can tell you is that's my opinion as someone who owns him in three separate dynasty leagues. All three I drafted him between picks 14 and 20, so early to late mid 2nd round. And that was before him earning the role he did this year obviously. As far as the injury, how it looks doesn't correlate to how it heals/what's the recovery projection when they are back healthy. Considering his injury history in college and the fact he's 23, it's not effecting my valuation on him.

You can believe I'm the aberration with that view and go out to test the waters yourself. Maybe you'll find I am 🤷‍♂️. I doubt you'll be getting him at much of a discount from current KTC/FantasyCalc numbers, which is pretty much where I am at (minus my being lower on 2026 future picks than consensus currently).
 
What's his trade value? A guy put him on the block this morning in a dynasty / devy 12 team league.
I'd say a late 1st/early 2nd is considered "fair" value; he just feels like such a dichotomous player where some people absolutely love him and others think he's nothing special (plus a potential injury risk/shortened career) the buyer and seller will rarely match up on value.

As an owner and someone who falls into the "believer" group, I don't think I'd sell for a late 1st, especially not a 2026 late 1st. Whereas I can already see people replying to this saying they would never dream of offering a future 1st for him, maybe not even a 2nd. I mean some people here still think he and Tracy are equal talents...

Probably need a unique situation where the Cam owner falls into the non-believer/injury risk group AND is willing to basically accept less than consensus (at least in pick value). Probably be "easier" to pull some player for player trade where values skew wider.
A late 1st early 2nd? You do realize he just had a gruesome injury and who knows if he will ever be the same. It's almost as if the injury is ignored. If he wasn't hurt that would be his value.
Lol I'll reiterate:

" Whereas I can already see people replying to this saying they would never dream of offering a future 1st for him, maybe not even a 2nd. I mean some people here still think he and Tracy are equal talents..."

All I can tell you is that's my opinion as someone who owns him in three separate dynasty leagues. All three I drafted him between picks 14 and 20, so early to late mid 2nd round. And that was before him earning the role he did this year obviously. As far as the injury, how it looks doesn't correlate to how it heals/what's the recovery projection when they are back healthy. Considering his injury history in college and the fact he's 23, it's not effecting my valuation on him.

You can believe I'm the aberration with that view and go out to test the waters yourself. Maybe you'll find I am 🤷‍♂️. I doubt you'll be getting him at much of a discount from current KTC/FantasyCalc numbers, which is pretty much where I am at (minus my being lower on 2026 future picks than consensus currently).
My question was what is his true trade value. Not from someone who is in love with him no matter what, but from someone who is just looking at this from a non-bias fantasy perspective. I get it, you are a Skattebo truther and doesn't care about the injury and you're sticking to your guns, but that's not the type of person I'm asking this question to. I believe if someone puts him on the block right now and wants a late 1st round pick, they are not being reasonable. I wouldn't give an early 2nd, let alone a later 1st and feel like I would be stupid to do so. I would think about a late 2nd and do a 3rd.
 
What's his trade value? A guy put him on the block this morning in a dynasty / devy 12 team league.
I'd say a late 1st/early 2nd is considered "fair" value; he just feels like such a dichotomous player where some people absolutely love him and others think he's nothing special (plus a potential injury risk/shortened career) the buyer and seller will rarely match up on value.

As an owner and someone who falls into the "believer" group, I don't think I'd sell for a late 1st, especially not a 2026 late 1st. Whereas I can already see people replying to this saying they would never dream of offering a future 1st for him, maybe not even a 2nd. I mean some people here still think he and Tracy are equal talents...

Probably need a unique situation where the Cam owner falls into the non-believer/injury risk group AND is willing to basically accept less than consensus (at least in pick value). Probably be "easier" to pull some player for player trade where values skew wider.
A late 1st early 2nd? You do realize he just had a gruesome injury and who knows if he will ever be the same. It's almost as if the injury is ignored. If he wasn't hurt that would be his value.
I don’t think an early second gets you him, preinjury, anywhere
 
What's his trade value? A guy put him on the block this morning in a dynasty / devy 12 team league.
I'd say a late 1st/early 2nd is considered "fair" value; he just feels like such a dichotomous player where some people absolutely love him and others think he's nothing special (plus a potential injury risk/shortened career) the buyer and seller will rarely match up on value.

As an owner and someone who falls into the "believer" group, I don't think I'd sell for a late 1st, especially not a 2026 late 1st. Whereas I can already see people replying to this saying they would never dream of offering a future 1st for him, maybe not even a 2nd. I mean some people here still think he and Tracy are equal talents...

Probably need a unique situation where the Cam owner falls into the non-believer/injury risk group AND is willing to basically accept less than consensus (at least in pick value). Probably be "easier" to pull some player for player trade where values skew wider.

Completely fair. I would offer my '26 late 1st if I had it and completely understand why the Skattebo owner wouldn't be interested. I think you can also add contender playing for this year into the unique situation for getting a deal done. Most are going to be heartbroken right now, but if you can restrain yourself for a week, they might start to see it as a trading chip to win this year.
Yeah, as a contender who just lost him I’m less looking for picks but would probably take late-first ballpark value towards a strong rb I can plug in now
 
What's his trade value? A guy put him on the block this morning in a dynasty / devy 12 team league.
I'd say a late 1st/early 2nd is considered "fair" value; he just feels like such a dichotomous player where some people absolutely love him and others think he's nothing special (plus a potential injury risk/shortened career) the buyer and seller will rarely match up on value.

As an owner and someone who falls into the "believer" group, I don't think I'd sell for a late 1st, especially not a 2026 late 1st. Whereas I can already see people replying to this saying they would never dream of offering a future 1st for him, maybe not even a 2nd. I mean some people here still think he and Tracy are equal talents...

Probably need a unique situation where the Cam owner falls into the non-believer/injury risk group AND is willing to basically accept less than consensus (at least in pick value). Probably be "easier" to pull some player for player trade where values skew wider.
A late 1st early 2nd? You do realize he just had a gruesome injury and who knows if he will ever be the same. It's almost as if the injury is ignored. If he wasn't hurt that would be his value.
Lol I'll reiterate:

" Whereas I can already see people replying to this saying they would never dream of offering a future 1st for him, maybe not even a 2nd. I mean some people here still think he and Tracy are equal talents..."

All I can tell you is that's my opinion as someone who owns him in three separate dynasty leagues. All three I drafted him between picks 14 and 20, so early to late mid 2nd round. And that was before him earning the role he did this year obviously. As far as the injury, how it looks doesn't correlate to how it heals/what's the recovery projection when they are back healthy. Considering his injury history in college and the fact he's 23, it's not effecting my valuation on him.

You can believe I'm the aberration with that view and go out to test the waters yourself. Maybe you'll find I am 🤷‍♂️. I doubt you'll be getting him at much of a discount from current KTC/FantasyCalc numbers, which is pretty much where I am at (minus my being lower on 2026 future picks than consensus currently).
My question was what is his true trade value. Not from someone who is in love with him no matter what, but from someone who is just looking at this from a non-bias fantasy perspective. I get it, you are a Skattebo truther and doesn't care about the injury and you're sticking to your guns, but that's not the type of person I'm asking this question to. I believe if someone puts him on the block right now and wants a late 1st round pick, they are not being reasonable. I wouldn't give an early 2nd, let alone a later 1st and feel like I would be stupid to do so. I would think about a late 2nd and do a 3rd.
And I don't think you're crazy either, hence my OG response. I feel like the majority of people who took Cam in dynasty drafts this past year were reaching for him, not taking him as BPA. He had a lot of truthers. But I obviously don't know every single league out there; and I'm from the north east so Giant's homerism runs strong by me which definitely colors my experience in drafts. If someone put him on the block they must be anxious about something, and it's most likely this injury report and finding out it was more than a dislocation.

If he won't bite on a mid to late 2nd with maybe some late round throw in, I'd try working out some kind of player for player trade like I originally said. Maybe he's got a positional weak spot on his roster you can attack with some offers of a place you are strong and/or have a guy he's naturally higher on rostered that you are more ho-hum about. Might be a lot easier than trying to buy it with a pick package. While most of my leagues and leaguemates are pretty aligned on future pick values, I'm always surprised at how much we differ on individual players. Can probably find some value there.

Edit: it will take a few days for KTC/FantasyCalc to absorb the news and adjust consensus opinions, but as of now both have him as valued around a late 1st/early 2nd. But to your point maybe that's still mostly reflecting pre-injury consensus.
 
What's his trade value? A guy put him on the block this morning in a dynasty / devy 12 team league.
I'd say a late 1st/early 2nd is considered "fair" value; he just feels like such a dichotomous player where some people absolutely love him and others think he's nothing special (plus a potential injury risk/shortened career) the buyer and seller will rarely match up on value.

As an owner and someone who falls into the "believer" group, I don't think I'd sell for a late 1st, especially not a 2026 late 1st. Whereas I can already see people replying to this saying they would never dream of offering a future 1st for him, maybe not even a 2nd. I mean some people here still think he and Tracy are equal talents...

Probably need a unique situation where the Cam owner falls into the non-believer/injury risk group AND is willing to basically accept less than consensus (at least in pick value). Probably be "easier" to pull some player for player trade where values skew wider.
A late 1st early 2nd? You do realize he just had a gruesome injury and who knows if he will ever be the same. It's almost as if the injury is ignored. If he wasn't hurt that would be his value.
I don’t think an early second gets you him, preinjury, anywhere
I can agree with that. His true value pre-injury was probably 1.08--1.12. But we're not talking pre-injury any longer and I sure as hell wouldn't give an early 2nd for him right now, knowing that is not his true value at the moment. That's just my opinion of course and wanted to know what the non-bias opinion was. You kinow, those that don't currently have Skattebo. It's pointless to ask those that roster Skattebo.
 
What's his trade value? A guy put him on the block this morning in a dynasty / devy 12 team league.
I'd say a late 1st/early 2nd is considered "fair" value; he just feels like such a dichotomous player where some people absolutely love him and others think he's nothing special (plus a potential injury risk/shortened career) the buyer and seller will rarely match up on value.

As an owner and someone who falls into the "believer" group, I don't think I'd sell for a late 1st, especially not a 2026 late 1st. Whereas I can already see people replying to this saying they would never dream of offering a future 1st for him, maybe not even a 2nd. I mean some people here still think he and Tracy are equal talents...

Probably need a unique situation where the Cam owner falls into the non-believer/injury risk group AND is willing to basically accept less than consensus (at least in pick value). Probably be "easier" to pull some player for player trade where values skew wider.
A late 1st early 2nd? You do realize he just had a gruesome injury and who knows if he will ever be the same. It's almost as if the injury is ignored. If he wasn't hurt that would be his value.
Lol I'll reiterate:

" Whereas I can already see people replying to this saying they would never dream of offering a future 1st for him, maybe not even a 2nd. I mean some people here still think he and Tracy are equal talents..."

All I can tell you is that's my opinion as someone who owns him in three separate dynasty leagues. All three I drafted him between picks 14 and 20, so early to late mid 2nd round. And that was before him earning the role he did this year obviously. As far as the injury, how it looks doesn't correlate to how it heals/what's the recovery projection when they are back healthy. Considering his injury history in college and the fact he's 23, it's not effecting my valuation on him.

You can believe I'm the aberration with that view and go out to test the waters yourself. Maybe you'll find I am 🤷‍♂️. I doubt you'll be getting him at much of a discount from current KTC/FantasyCalc numbers, which is pretty much where I am at (minus my being lower on 2026 future picks than consensus currently).
My question was what is his true trade value. Not from someone who is in love with him no matter what, but from someone who is just looking at this from a non-bias fantasy perspective. I get it, you are a Skattebo truther and doesn't care about the injury and you're sticking to your guns, but that's not the type of person I'm asking this question to. I believe if someone puts him on the block right now and wants a late 1st round pick, they are not being reasonable. I wouldn't give an early 2nd, let alone a later 1st and feel like I would be stupid to do so. I would think about a late 2nd and do a 3rd.
Sorry for too many replies in a row, scrolled down from top.

I just don’t think there’s enough upside in selling for a 3rd for that to get him anywhere, barring like, weird leagues with no IR slots. If this guy makes a full recovery he’s shown he’s an impact player and fantasy rb1. Obviously that could absolutely not be the outcome, but I have a hard time seeing someone panic selling that over potentially missing out on a 3rd rounder worth of value. I view the average third rounder as a much longer shot to have the talent to be that than his chances at recovery
 
What's his trade value? A guy put him on the block this morning in a dynasty / devy 12 team league.
I'd say a late 1st/early 2nd is considered "fair" value; he just feels like such a dichotomous player where some people absolutely love him and others think he's nothing special (plus a potential injury risk/shortened career) the buyer and seller will rarely match up on value.

As an owner and someone who falls into the "believer" group, I don't think I'd sell for a late 1st, especially not a 2026 late 1st. Whereas I can already see people replying to this saying they would never dream of offering a future 1st for him, maybe not even a 2nd. I mean some people here still think he and Tracy are equal talents...

Probably need a unique situation where the Cam owner falls into the non-believer/injury risk group AND is willing to basically accept less than consensus (at least in pick value). Probably be "easier" to pull some player for player trade where values skew wider.
A late 1st early 2nd? You do realize he just had a gruesome injury and who knows if he will ever be the same. It's almost as if the injury is ignored. If he wasn't hurt that would be his value.
I don’t think an early second gets you him, preinjury, anywhere
I can agree with that. His true value pre-injury was probably 1.08--1.12. But we're not talking pre-injury any longer and I sure as hell wouldn't give an early 2nd for him right now, knowing that is not his true value at the moment. That's just my opinion of course and wanted to know what the non-bias opinion was. You kinow, those that don't currently have Skattebo.
I just don't understand that view when talking dynasty trades. There are two groups of people in any trade; the party that owns the player and the party that doesn't. Only taking opinions from people who DONT own the player will never give you an accurate depiction of what that player is worth. It's completely fair to say that if no one is buying at a certain price, that is not what the price is (which I believe is your point to me). But the exact opposite is true; if no one is selling at a price that all the buyers are proposing.... well that's also not the price. Basically a stalemate. Again, what I suggested is the case in my very first reply.
 
What's his trade value? A guy put him on the block this morning in a dynasty / devy 12 team league.
I'd say a late 1st/early 2nd is considered "fair" value; he just feels like such a dichotomous player where some people absolutely love him and others think he's nothing special (plus a potential injury risk/shortened career) the buyer and seller will rarely match up on value.

As an owner and someone who falls into the "believer" group, I don't think I'd sell for a late 1st, especially not a 2026 late 1st. Whereas I can already see people replying to this saying they would never dream of offering a future 1st for him, maybe not even a 2nd. I mean some people here still think he and Tracy are equal talents...

Probably need a unique situation where the Cam owner falls into the non-believer/injury risk group AND is willing to basically accept less than consensus (at least in pick value). Probably be "easier" to pull some player for player trade where values skew wider.
A late 1st early 2nd? You do realize he just had a gruesome injury and who knows if he will ever be the same. It's almost as if the injury is ignored. If he wasn't hurt that would be his value.
Lol I'll reiterate:

" Whereas I can already see people replying to this saying they would never dream of offering a future 1st for him, maybe not even a 2nd. I mean some people here still think he and Tracy are equal talents..."

All I can tell you is that's my opinion as someone who owns him in three separate dynasty leagues. All three I drafted him between picks 14 and 20, so early to late mid 2nd round. And that was before him earning the role he did this year obviously. As far as the injury, how it looks doesn't correlate to how it heals/what's the recovery projection when they are back healthy. Considering his injury history in college and the fact he's 23, it's not effecting my valuation on him.

You can believe I'm the aberration with that view and go out to test the waters yourself. Maybe you'll find I am 🤷‍♂️. I doubt you'll be getting him at much of a discount from current KTC/FantasyCalc numbers, which is pretty much where I am at (minus my being lower on 2026 future picks than consensus currently).
My question was what is his true trade value. Not from someone who is in love with him no matter what, but from someone who is just looking at this from a non-bias fantasy perspective. I get it, you are a Skattebo truther and doesn't care about the injury and you're sticking to your guns, but that's not the type of person I'm asking this question to. I believe if someone puts him on the block right now and wants a late 1st round pick, they are not being reasonable. I wouldn't give an early 2nd, let alone a later 1st and feel like I would be stupid to do so. I would think about a late 2nd and do a 3rd.
Sorry for too many replies in a row, scrolled down from top.

I just don’t think there’s enough upside in selling for a 3rd for that to get him anywhere, barring like, weird leagues with no IR slots. If this guy makes a full recovery he’s shown he’s an impact player and fantasy rb1. Obviously that could absolutely not be the outcome, but I have a hard time seeing someone panic selling that over potentially missing out on a 3rd rounder worth of value. I view the average third rounder as a much longer shot to have the talent to be that than his chances at recovery
Thus the issue. I wouldn't sell for a 3rd either, but I wouldn't buy for an early 2nd. Perhaps his value right now is in the 2.06 - 2.08 range?
 
Never underestimate the hopium of a FF player.

Next summer: his combine speed will be improved drastically and retrospectively, he'll respect defenders and lower his head less while going out of bounds, and he'll be the undisputed #1 Giants RB for the next decade.

2-3 rookie firsts, minimum offer.
/sarcasm or partially realistic? You decide.... in August.
 

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