Running 4.77 without pads is not ideal, but if runs 4.77 WITH PADS also, that is more telling.I didn't expect him to be a long haired red head white surfer looking dude from California. 6'0" 228, 21 years old. Pretty good college production. 2 years ago he went bonkers at Ball State before transferring to UCLA. 37.5 inch vert, 28 reps on the bench too. This guy is STRONG. The 4.77 40 is rough though. Kind of profiles like a FB. Interesting guy though.
UCLA running back Carson Steele has made quite the impression since arriving this offseason as a transfer from Ball State. Standing 6-foot-1 and 233-pounds, Steele has shown his strength early on in the weight room, standing out among his teammates.
The Athletic‘s Bruce Feldman recently ranked Steele at No. 21 on his “College football Freaks List” ahead of the 2023 season. Joining On3‘s Andy Staples, he revealed what it is about the running back that earned him that spot.
“He’s not the biggest back in the running back room,” Feldman told Staples. “They have two other guys who are actually bigger. But he is super strong. A 450-pound bench guy. Squats almost 700 pounds. He’s explosive. Vertical jumps 35 inches, hits 21 on the GPS and there’s some great stories about him when he first transferred there. He was blowing people away in the weight room with what he could do and just how physically strong especially his lower body is.
I had posted in an earlier thread that Steele has some Pacheco qualities to him. Pacheco has been described as running like a kid who just got some new shoes. Steele runs like he just beat someone up and stole their shoes!In. This guy is better than CEH already. He runs with a purpose, how can you not root for him?
When I was researching this guy I had forgotten that Pacheco was drafted in the 7th round, so KC isn't tied to "draft capital" at this position.
This guy is better than CEH already
We have our FA Draft Sunday night and Prince was going to be one of my targets, but I’m prioritizing Carson now.This guy is better than CEH already
where would y'all slot Steele in for dynasty? Is his potential better than Prince?
Meant it more for Steele than Pacheco. KC doesn't hesitate to put the best player in the role, regardless of where they were drafted.When I was researching this guy I had forgotten that Pacheco was drafted in the 7th round, so KC isn't tied to "draft capital" at this position.
wouldn't draft capital only be relevant when the player is bad and they team feels the need to keep trying to justify?
Pacheco ... i mean, at this point 385 carries for 1765 yards over first two seasons at 4.58 yds/carry, just seems like his past (draft capital and college career) is irrelevant as any nfl team would love to have him, yeah?
Based on the way they are using him, it doesn't look like he'll become Kyle Juszczyk.So is this guy a FB? That's how he's listed. FB's aren't generally used much in the NFL these days.
They had him returning kickoffs as well. He's not a traditional FB.So is this guy a FB? That's how he's listed. FB's aren't generally used much in the NFL these days.
But an interesting question is, if he has only run with third- or maybe second-stringers (I say "if" because I don't actually know if he has done anything with first-stringers or not), may his usage just be because "well, even though we intend to use you like a FB, this is the part where we run all our lowest RB's, and that you are, so FB or not, here's the ball"?Based on the way they are using him, it doesn't look like he'll become Kyle Juszczyk.So is this guy a FB? That's how he's listed. FB's aren't generally used much in the NFL these days.
I was burned by the Prince hype last season. I watched last night and Steele looked a lot better than him. I think Steele is a good pickup in part because CEH has looked slow for a couple seasons now. I'm honestly a little surprised he keeps making the team.This guy is better than CEH already
where would y'all slot Steele in for dynasty? Is his potential better than Prince?
I just saw Velus Jones rush for 111 yards so the whole world is Koo-Koo Bananas right now.But an interesting question is, if he has only run with third- or maybe second-stringers (I say "if" because I don't actually know if he has done anything with first-stringers or not), may his usage just be because "well, even though we intend to use you like a FB, this is the part where we run all our lowest RB's, and that you are, so FB or not, here's the ball"?Based on the way they are using him, it doesn't look like he'll become Kyle Juszczyk.So is this guy a FB? That's how he's listed. FB's aren't generally used much in the NFL these days.
Wow haha I did not realize that!! 13 carries? What the heck.I just saw Velus Jones rush for 111 yards so the whole world is Koo-Koo Bananas right now.But an interesting question is, if he has only run with third- or maybe second-stringers (I say "if" because I don't actually know if he has done anything with first-stringers or not), may his usage just be because "well, even though we intend to use you like a FB, this is the part where we run all our lowest RB's, and that you are, so FB or not, here's the ball"?Based on the way they are using him, it doesn't look like he'll become Kyle Juszczyk.So is this guy a FB? That's how he's listed. FB's aren't generally used much in the NFL these days.
thanks!I was burned by the Prince hype last season. I watched last night and Steele looked a lot better than him. I think Steele is a good pickup in part because CEH has looked slow for a couple seasons now. I'm honestly a little surprised he keeps making the team.This guy is better than CEH already
where would y'all slot Steele in for dynasty? Is his potential better than Prince?
CEH has been droppable.thanks!I was burned by the Prince hype last season. I watched last night and Steele looked a lot better than him. I think Steele is a good pickup in part because CEH has looked slow for a couple seasons now. I'm honestly a little surprised he keeps making the team.This guy is better than CEH already
where would y'all slot Steele in for dynasty? Is his potential better than Prince?
so, your opinion is:
?
- Pacheco
- Steele
- Prince
- CEH
I ask, because I have all four on my roster and need to drop one
that would be my order. KC resigned CEH to be their #2 RB, so maybe they see more in him than I do.thanks!I was burned by the Prince hype last season. I watched last night and Steele looked a lot better than him. I think Steele is a good pickup in part because CEH has looked slow for a couple seasons now. I'm honestly a little surprised he keeps making the team.This guy is better than CEH already
where would y'all slot Steele in for dynasty? Is his potential better than Prince?
so, your opinion is:
?
- Pacheco
- Steele
- Prince
- CEH
I ask, because I have all four on my roster and need to drop one
no. he runs very well with power, but he has nowhere near the burst that Pacheco has.Meant it more for Steele than Pacheco. KC doesn't hesitate to put the best player in the role, regardless of where they were drafted.When I was researching this guy I had forgotten that Pacheco was drafted in the 7th round, so KC isn't tied to "draft capital" at this position.
wouldn't draft capital only be relevant when the player is bad and they team feels the need to keep trying to justify?
Pacheco ... i mean, at this point 385 carries for 1765 yards over first two seasons at 4.58 yds/carry, just seems like his past (draft capital and college career) is irrelevant as any nfl team would love to have him, yeah?
I don't see Steele supplanting Pacheco, I see him grabbing that sweet sweet Jerick McKinnon role.
Sounds like the Jordan Mason of SFno. he runs very well with power, but he has nowhere near the burst that Pacheco has.Meant it more for Steele than Pacheco. KC doesn't hesitate to put the best player in the role, regardless of where they were drafted.When I was researching this guy I had forgotten that Pacheco was drafted in the 7th round, so KC isn't tied to "draft capital" at this position.
wouldn't draft capital only be relevant when the player is bad and they team feels the need to keep trying to justify?
Pacheco ... i mean, at this point 385 carries for 1765 yards over first two seasons at 4.58 yds/carry, just seems like his past (draft capital and college career) is irrelevant as any nfl team would love to have him, yeah?
I don't see Steele supplanting Pacheco, I see him grabbing that sweet sweet Jerick McKinnon role.
I also question whether he can catch passes. but for what he is, hes very good at what he does.
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Every Carson Steele preseason rush attempt
- 11 carries
- 11 avoided tackles
- 87 rushing yards
- 81 of those yards created AFTER initial contact
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I'd bet on this guy. while hes not super dynamic, he knows how to find the hole, and he has a wicked straight arm. runs with power. hes the type that can really wear down a defense late in games too.So who is the handcuff to Pacheco for fantasy purposes?
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.@pgsween of @ArrowheadPride’s take on the KC RB room:
“Isiah Pacheco is the clear No. 1 — and after working on his pass-catching skills this offseason, it’s realistic to think he could stay on the field for all three downs. That being said, UDFA Carson Steele has flashed to the point that he’s become the ‘secret’ everybody knows about, and who I believe will become the go-to for short yardage and touchdowns at the goal line.”
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Not trying to be snarky, but what do you base that on? Steele is the talk of their camp and it seems the team loves him. I'd say Prince is more likely to be 4th on the depth chart than 2nd...IMO.Deneric Prince is much more likely to be the primary guy unless CEH has some level of veteran trust from the coaches that he totally shouldn't.
And not trying to be snarky here either but why do you presume 4th for Prince?Not trying to be snarky, but what do you base that on? Steele is the talk of their camp and it seems the team loves him. I'd say Prince is more likely to be 4th on the depth chart than 2nd...IMO.Deneric Prince is much more likely to be the primary guy unless CEH has some level of veteran trust from the coaches that he totally shouldn't.
I would assume it would go to CEH before Prince. CEH has the higher draft capitol and in limited/small spurts, has shown more than Prince thus far in their careers. That could flip of course, and if CEH is having mental health issues yeah he may fall to 4th on the roster.And not trying to be snarky here either but why do you presume 4th for Prince?Not trying to be snarky, but what do you base that on? Steele is the talk of their camp and it seems the team loves him. I'd say Prince is more likely to be 4th on the depth chart than 2nd...IMO.Deneric Prince is much more likely to be the primary guy unless CEH has some level of veteran trust from the coaches that he totally shouldn't.
Jacob Gibbs
No player created more yards after initial contact than Carson Steele across the 2021-23 seasons.
(Data per @TruMediaSports)
I've looked at this collegiate rushing data a million times this offseason. Never noticed Steele's name til now.
Sometimes the answer is hidden right under our nose:
You mean John Riggins?Ya’ll just convinced me to pick up The Man of Steele with my final bench slot in my main redraft league. No where else is this guy getting promoted in the world of fantasy. This is why I will always appreciate these forums.
I can never resist a Tim Riggins style player.
Brother, I just looked up Carson Steele's middle name, and I don't even know how to say this but all I can say is, you're not gonna believe this, my friend.I had to pick him up! It was a clear sign for my roster!! Why you ask?
My oldest son’s name is Steele
My 2nd son’s name is Carson
Note: 3rd son is Luke
How could I not get him!?!
That would work too. Was making a Friday Night Lights reference.You mean John Riggins?Ya’ll just convinced me to pick up The Man of Steele with my final bench slot in my main redraft league. No where else is this guy getting promoted in the world of fantasy. This is why I will always appreciate these forums.
I can never resist a Tim Riggins style player.
That was classic!! TYBrother, I just looked up Carson Steele's middle name, and I don't even know how to say this but all I can say is, you're not gonna believe this, my friend.I had to pick him up! It was a clear sign for my roster!! Why you ask?
My oldest son’s name is Steele
My 2nd son’s name is Carson
Note: 3rd son is Luke
How could I not get him!?!
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