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RB Chase Brown, CIN (4 Viewers)
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RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Yeah, that is not good enough. That coaching staff simply has to do a better job utilizing him.x.com
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RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
The day after I trade him and Tank Dell away for Nico and Bowers.x.com
It's happening! Brown has the backfield to himself this weekend!
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
That's still a massive W trade tbh.The day after I trade him and Tank Dell away for Nico and Bowers.x.com
It's happening! Brown has the backfield to himself this weekend!
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
I expect him to go off, not only because of the amount of touches he'll additionally get, but because the Raiders D is weak and the Bengals will be playing with a lead early I anticipate.
Start him if you've got him!
Start him if you've got him!
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
Now I have to wrestle with this guy vs Achane and Monty. Tempting.
Scooby1974
Footballguy
Where would you guys rank him if he is RB1 this week?
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
Juicy
Scooby1974
Footballguy
Might be, but he hadn't completely shaken Moss off his finger until Moss got hurt.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I have every reason to believe Brown will have a fine game against the Raiders.
He’s been a weekly stud for several games now splitting time.
I’m not selling anywhere. This exact scenario is why I was a buyer in the preseason.
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
I would think top 15
Chaka
Footballguy
I wouldn't say "stud" he has been very TD dependent with sub 4.0 yards/carry and yards/reception over the last five games averaging 59 yards on 15 touches/game with three plays over 20 yards (30 is his long rush on the season and 11 is his long reception).
60 yards and a TD is nice for sure, but we all thought he was going to be more than that. Where is the guy we thought, back in August, was big play monster who was going to be a big factor in the passing game?
I hope that guy shows up this week.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That’s who I expected him to be in a RBBC.
Whats this “we all” stuff? Just because you had unrealistic expectations doesn’t mean he hasn’t met mine.
I thought he’d be more valuable than Moss. To date that has been the case. Now he has a shot as the feature back against the worst tackling team in the league. I’m giddy at the prospect.
And for what I paid in both leagues he’s been an absolute bargain.
Chaka
Footballguy
Okay. Here's my dilemma:That’s who I expected him to be in a RBBC.
Whats this “we all” stuff? Just because you had unrealistic expectations doesn’t mean he hasn’t met mine.
I thought he’d be more valuable than Moss. To date that has been the case. Now he has a shot as the feature back against the worst tackling team in the league. I’m giddy at the prospect.
And for what I paid in both leagues he’s been an absolute bargain.
I need to choose two of these guys (I also have Gibbs who is definitely starting)
Jonathan Taylor @Min (#3 in y/a (3.9) against and #1 in rush TDs (3) against, #8 v RBs overall in my league)
Monty @ GB (#8 y/a (4.6) #14 TDs (7), #13 v RBs)
Chase Brown v LV (#20 y/a (4.6), #24 TDs (10), #24 v RBs)
You have the fortitude to tell me to bench Taylor or Monty (capturing the entire Detroit backfleld) for Brown?
ETA: yes I posted it in the WDIS thread.
Same boat. I'd like to start Brown, but it would cost me Mixon, Achane, or Swift.Okay. Here's my dilemma:That’s who I expected him to be in a RBBC.
Whats this “we all” stuff? Just because you had unrealistic expectations doesn’t mean he hasn’t met mine.
I thought he’d be more valuable than Moss. To date that has been the case. Now he has a shot as the feature back against the worst tackling team in the league. I’m giddy at the prospect.
And for what I paid in both leagues he’s been an absolute bargain.
I need to choose two of these guys (I also have Gibbs who is definitely starting)
Jonathan Taylor @Min (#3 in y/a (3.9) against and #1 in rush TDs (3) against, #8 v RBs overall in my league)
Monty @ GB (#8 y/a (4.6) #14 TDs (7), #13 v RBs)
Chase Brown v LV (#20 y/a (4.6), #24 TDs (10), #24 v RBs)
You have the fortitude to tell me to bench Taylor or Monty (capturing the entire Detroit backfleld) for Brown?
ETA: yes I posted it in the WDIS thread.
Okay. Here's my dilemma:That’s who I expected him to be in a RBBC.
Whats this “we all” stuff? Just because you had unrealistic expectations doesn’t mean he hasn’t met mine.
I thought he’d be more valuable than Moss. To date that has been the case. Now he has a shot as the feature back against the worst tackling team in the league. I’m giddy at the prospect.
And for what I paid in both leagues he’s been an absolute bargain.
I need to choose two of these guys (I also have Gibbs who is definitely starting)
Jonathan Taylor @Min (#3 in y/a (3.9) against and #1 in rush TDs (3) against, #8 v RBs overall in my league)
Monty @ GB (#8 y/a (4.6) #14 TDs (7), #13 v RBs)
Chase Brown v LV (#20 y/a (4.6), #24 TDs (10), #24 v RBs)
You have the fortitude to tell me to bench Taylor or Monty (capturing the entire Detroit backfleld) for Brown?
ETA: yes I posted it in the WDIS thread.
I would start Brown in both these cases (over Monty and Swift respectively) but these are both cases where I'd be trying to sell high on Brown before Sunday. Just feels to me his value may never be higher (because I don't see some great player in Brown, just a guy probably better than Moss) so if you can turn your usual RB4 into a WR2 or a high-end QB/TE.Same boat. I'd like to start Brown, but it would cost me Mixon, Achane, or Swift.Okay. Here's my dilemma:That’s who I expected him to be in a RBBC.
Whats this “we all” stuff? Just because you had unrealistic expectations doesn’t mean he hasn’t met mine.
I thought he’d be more valuable than Moss. To date that has been the case. Now he has a shot as the feature back against the worst tackling team in the league. I’m giddy at the prospect.
And for what I paid in both leagues he’s been an absolute bargain.
I need to choose two of these guys (I also have Gibbs who is definitely starting)
Jonathan Taylor @Min (#3 in y/a (3.9) against and #1 in rush TDs (3) against, #8 v RBs overall in my league)
Monty @ GB (#8 y/a (4.6) #14 TDs (7), #13 v RBs)
Chase Brown v LV (#20 y/a (4.6), #24 TDs (10), #24 v RBs)
You have the fortitude to tell me to bench Taylor or Monty (capturing the entire Detroit backfleld) for Brown?
ETA: yes I posted it in the WDIS thread.
Just today, I saw Chase Brown traded straight up for Travis Kelce. Also saw a Chase Brown/Zay Flowers for Deebo Samuel trade, as well as Chase Brown/Garrett Wilson for CeeDee Lamb. I'd rather be on the non-Brown side of all of those if I had depth at RB.
Having said all that, I am expecting a top-12 week from Brown because of his matchup, I just think if he for whatever reason doesn't do that, his trade window might be shot.
themeistersinger
Footballguy
I have an unlimited supply of fortitude when it comes to telling other people what to do. As long as it doesn't cost me anything.Okay. Here's my dilemma:That’s who I expected him to be in a RBBC.
Whats this “we all” stuff? Just because you had unrealistic expectations doesn’t mean he hasn’t met mine.
I thought he’d be more valuable than Moss. To date that has been the case. Now he has a shot as the feature back against the worst tackling team in the league. I’m giddy at the prospect.
And for what I paid in both leagues he’s been an absolute bargain.
I need to choose two of these guys (I also have Gibbs who is definitely starting)
Jonathan Taylor @Min (#3 in y/a (3.9) against and #1 in rush TDs (3) against, #8 v RBs overall in my league)
Monty @ GB (#8 y/a (4.6) #14 TDs (7), #13 v RBs)
Chase Brown v LV (#20 y/a (4.6), #24 TDs (10), #24 v RBs)
You have the fortitude to tell me to bench Taylor or Monty (capturing the entire Detroit backfleld) for Brown?
ETA: yes I posted it in the WDIS thread.
Now if it was my team? No fortitude at all. And since I consider you a football friend, I will tell you my real advice - you've got a tough call there. Good luck!
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
This post has a fascinating, “But Doctor, I Am Pagliacci” feel to it.Okay. Here's my dilemma:That’s who I expected him to be in a RBBC.
Whats this “we all” stuff? Just because you had unrealistic expectations doesn’t mean he hasn’t met mine.
I thought he’d be more valuable than Moss. To date that has been the case. Now he has a shot as the feature back against the worst tackling team in the league. I’m giddy at the prospect.
And for what I paid in both leagues he’s been an absolute bargain.
I need to choose two of these guys (I also have Gibbs who is definitely starting)
Jonathan Taylor @Min (#3 in y/a (3.9) against and #1 in rush TDs (3) against, #8 v RBs overall in my league)
Monty @ GB (#8 y/a (4.6) #14 TDs (7), #13 v RBs)
Chase Brown v LV (#20 y/a (4.6), #24 TDs (10), #24 v RBs)
You have the fortitude to tell me to bench Taylor or Monty (capturing the entire Detroit backfleld) for Brown?
ETA: yes I posted it in the WDIS thread.
Chaka
Footballguy
Monty is a virtual lock for 80 & a TD. I think a lot of people are going with "He's due" logic for Brown this week.
What more is he going to do with 20 touches that he hasn't done with 15 over the past five weeks?
And, again, he has been a tremendous disappointment in the passing game all season so far.
What more is he going to do with 20 touches that he hasn't done with 15 over the past five weeks?
And, again, he has been a tremendous disappointment in the passing game all season so far.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
My personal opinion Chaka, is you don’t bench Taylor. And the only way I play a Brown over Monty is if I’m a legit underdog. Simply put I think Monty has the higher floor but Brown could have a higher ceiling. I’m using him this week over Conner because I am an underdog and need the upside.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
With Higgins out that could also change this week. It’s not easy to project since we haven’t seen the Bengals operate without Moss + Higgins.
Like I said in the WSIS topic: there are no bad choices here. You’re in an enviable situation of having too many good options.
It sounds like you want to bench Brown. So you should bench Brown.
on a personal note, I really want you to bench him because that all but guarantees he’ll put up 150+ APY including 5 receptions & 2 TD on your bench, for the FF gods are cruel and merciless. .
Chaka
Footballguy
Over his nice five game run of TD heavy production, Brown has averaged 15 touches (12.8 carries, 2.2 receptions) and Zack Moss has averaged 11.2 touches.
So tell me, Turing, how many of Moss's touches do you expect Brown to take?
I think five is an appropriate number when considering his projections this week.
Chaka
Footballguy
To be clear, I am not calling Brown a bust. I am still seriously considering starting him over Montgomery. But, since his touches went up five weeks ago, he has averaged 4.0 y/c on 13 carries/game and 3.8 y/r on two receptions per game. It's difficult to get excited about that kind of production.
It may not be his "fault" either, the Bengals just may not have a great run blocking line or scheme. Joe Mixon is averaging almost a full yard/carry over his average during Burrow's time in Cincinnati. And a full yard/reception more in Houston.
Brown has a great matchup, on paper, and he is going to be the unquestioned starter.
A reasonable projection for this week seems closer to 80 yards and maybe an 80% chance of a TD.
It may not be his "fault" either, the Bengals just may not have a great run blocking line or scheme. Joe Mixon is averaging almost a full yard/carry over his average during Burrow's time in Cincinnati. And a full yard/reception more in Houston.
Brown has a great matchup, on paper, and he is going to be the unquestioned starter.
A reasonable projection for this week seems closer to 80 yards and maybe an 80% chance of a TD.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
I’ll,tell you I’m now seriously considering Brown over Walker. Seattlemwithout Metclaf and Fant. Likely playing from behind against a potent Rams offense…Jesus…
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
You seem to have missed my joke.Over his nice five game run of TD heavy production, Brown has averaged 15 touches (12.8 carries, 2.2 receptions) and Zack Moss has averaged 11.2 touches.
So tell me, Turing, how many of Moss's touches do you expect Brown to take?
I think five is an appropriate number when considering his projections this week.
Chaka
Footballguy
Maybe, it didn't bother me either way. It's a sincere question. How much usage do you think he will get today?You seem to have missed my joke.Over his nice five game run of TD heavy production, Brown has averaged 15 touches (12.8 carries, 2.2 receptions) and Zack Moss has averaged 11.2 touches.
So tell me, Turing, how many of Moss's touches do you expect Brown to take?
I think five is an appropriate number when considering his projections this week.
Give me a projection.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
18 carries, 83/1
5 receptions, 37/1
120 APY/2
*I would not use this for gambling, as this is for entertainment purposes only.
5 receptions, 37/1
120 APY/2
*I would not use this for gambling, as this is for entertainment purposes only.
Chaka
Footballguy
Seems within a realistic range of outcomes.18 carries, 83/1
5 receptions, 37/1
120 APY/2
*I would not use this for gambling, as this is for entertainment purposes only.
Still not sure I can sub him for Montgomery.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Go with your gut.Seems within a realistic range of outcomes.18 carries, 83/1
5 receptions, 37/1
120 APY/2
*I would not use this for gambling, as this is for entertainment purposes only.
Still not sure I can sub him for Montgomery.
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
“ my little man’s an idiot “Go with your gut.Seems within a realistic range of outcomes.18 carries, 83/1
5 receptions, 37/1
120 APY/2
*I would not use this for gambling, as this is for entertainment purposes only.
Still not sure I can sub him for Montgomery.
- Costanza
themeistersinger
Footballguy
Yeah, now that I think about it, definitely bench Brown. I would love to see him do that in my starting lineup.With Higgins out that could also change this week. It’s not easy to project since we haven’t seen the Bengals operate without Moss + Higgins.
Like I said in the WSIS topic: there are no bad choices here. You’re in an enviable situation of having too many good options.
It sounds like you want to bench Brown. So you should bench Brown.
on a personal note, I really want you to bench him because that all but guarantees he’ll put up 150+ APY including 5 receptions & 2 TD on your bench, for the FF gods are cruel and merciless. .
Alternatively, I am definitely starting Brown - which guarantees a dud game.
So this is sort of a Schrodinger's start/sit question.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Huge game loading.....
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Whoa - that’s never good. Neck is one of those things where even a minor injury could be substantial given their line of work.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
There's 1!
That drive was ALL Brown.
That drive was ALL Brown.
Sarlakticacid
Footballguy
Taking us down to Brown Town
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
This guy is giving off some Alvin Kamara vibes.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Sorry folks, my projections were a little off.
