RB Chase Brown, CIN (1 Viewer)

[-jb-]

Joe Dolan
Chase Brown is so much more explosive than Zack Moss.

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Moss was solid, but yeah, Brown just looks like a big play waiting to happen. They are 0-3. Maybe time to shake things up.

Can he play defense? That would help.

No, but maybe he can break off some longer plays and the Bengals can score more points

Hope so. I’m stashing him in a bunch of places.

That said, hard to argue with the Bengals offense last night. Neither team punted. Every drive was a score of some kind. Both teams. Bananas.

 

[efactor]

Joe Dolan
Chase Brown is so much more explosive than Zack Moss.

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Moss was solid, but yeah, Brown just looks like a big play waiting to happen. They are 0-3. Maybe time to shake things up.

Can he play defense? That would help.

Cinci D may be the worst in the league.

If this team has to keep playing from behind, I think Brown's arrow is pointing up.

They were playing from behind almost the entire game last night and Brown got 9 touches compared to Moss's 17. Almost 9 yards a carry but only 7 carries. Just seems odd that an 0-3 team with losses to the Patriots and the Commanders is playing it so safe.

 

[efactor]

Joe Dolan
Chase Brown is so much more explosive than Zack Moss.

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Moss was solid, but yeah, Brown just looks like a big play waiting to happen. They are 0-3. Maybe time to shake things up.

Can he play defense? That would help.

No, but maybe he can break off some longer plays and the Bengals can score more points

Hope so. I’m stashing him in a bunch of places.

That said, hard to argue with the Bengals offense last night. Neither team punted. Every drive was a score of some kind. Both teams. Bananas.

I don't watch much of either team, but both defenses seem to be terrible. Bengals were 0-2 coming in but probably looking at their next two games with the Commanders and the Panthers as fairly easy wins. Lose to the Commanders and now the Panthers don't seem an easy win anymore. They lose in Carolina next week and then have to play the Ravens in week 5. Season could be over early.

 

[-jb-]

Joe Dolan
Chase Brown is so much more explosive than Zack Moss.

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Moss was solid, but yeah, Brown just looks like a big play waiting to happen. They are 0-3. Maybe time to shake things up.

Can he play defense? That would help.

Cinci D may be the worst in the league.

If this team has to keep playing from behind, I think Brown's arrow is pointing up.

They were playing from almost the entire game last night and Brown got 9 touches compared to Moss's 17. Almost 9 yards a carry but only 7 carries. Just seems odd that an 0-3 team with losses to the Patriots and the Commanders is playing it so safe.

Agree. I think they’re still going into games a bit more arrogantly than they should. Notoriously slow-starting team. That’s gotta be on coaching. Which is also what’s causing Moss to get the ball more. I haven’t really watched closely enough to see if Moss is better at pass pro. At this point that’s the only logical thing to point to. I guess.

 

[cheese]

Joe Dolan
Chase Brown is so much more explosive than Zack Moss.

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Moss was solid, but yeah, Brown just looks like a big play waiting to happen. They are 0-3. Maybe time to shake things up.

Can he play defense? That would help.

Cinci D may be the worst in the league.

If this team has to keep playing from behind, I think Brown's arrow is pointing up.

They were playing from almost the entire game last night and Brown got 9 touches compared to Moss's 17. Almost 9 yards a carry but only 7 carries. Just seems odd that an 0-3 team with losses to the Patriots and the Commanders is playing it so safe.

Agree. I think they’re still going into games a bit more arrogantly than they should. Notoriously slow-starting team. That’s gotta be on coaching. Which is also what’s causing Moss to get the ball more. I haven’t really watched closely enough to see if Moss is better at pass pro. At this point that’s the only logical thing to point to. I guess.

He’s much better at pass pro and receiving out of the backfield imo. Them getting behind is part of the problem for Brown.

 

[efactor]

Joe Dolan
Chase Brown is so much more explosive than Zack Moss.

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Moss was solid, but yeah, Brown just looks like a big play waiting to happen. They are 0-3. Maybe time to shake things up.

Can he play defense? That would help.

Cinci D may be the worst in the league.

If this team has to keep playing from behind, I think Brown's arrow is pointing up.

They were playing from almost the entire game last night and Brown got 9 touches compared to Moss's 17. Almost 9 yards a carry but only 7 carries. Just seems odd that an 0-3 team with losses to the Patriots and the Commanders is playing it so safe.

Agree. I think they’re still going into games a bit more arrogantly than they should. Notoriously slow-starting team. That’s gotta be on coaching. Which is also what’s causing Moss to get the ball more. I haven’t really watched closely enough to see if Moss is better at pass pro. At this point that’s the only logical thing to point to. I guess.

He’s much better at pass pro and receiving out of the backfield imo. Them getting behind is part of the problem for Brown.

Is Moss really a better receiver? Or he just gets more snaps in passing downs because he is better in pass protection? Sincere question.

Only 6 teams in NFL HISTORY have started 0-3 and made the playoffs. Big trouble in Cincinnati

 

[Banger]

The defense is a dumpster fire...they can't stop anything and made the Commanders look like the Chiefs. Not looking good for Chase this year.

 

[Faust]

Jacob Gibbs
Chase Brown's snap rate by game:
33%
18%
23%

Brown's RB rush share by game:
25%
25%
37%

He ran well vs. WAS but still barely played.

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[cheese]

Joe Dolan
Chase Brown is so much more explosive than Zack Moss.

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Moss was solid, but yeah, Brown just looks like a big play waiting to happen. They are 0-3. Maybe time to shake things up.

Can he play defense? That would help.

Cinci D may be the worst in the league.

If this team has to keep playing from behind, I think Brown's arrow is pointing up.

They were playing from almost the entire game last night and Brown got 9 touches compared to Moss's 17. Almost 9 yards a carry but only 7 carries. Just seems odd that an 0-3 team with losses to the Patriots and the Commanders is playing it so safe.

Agree. I think they’re still going into games a bit more arrogantly than they should. Notoriously slow-starting team. That’s gotta be on coaching. Which is also what’s causing Moss to get the ball more. I haven’t really watched closely enough to see if Moss is better at pass pro. At this point that’s the only logical thing to point to. I guess.

He’s much better at pass pro and receiving out of the backfield imo. Them getting behind is part of the problem for Brown.

Is Moss really a better receiver? Or he just gets more snaps in passing downs because he is better in pass protection? Sincere question.

Only 6 teams in NFL HISTORY have started 0-3 and made the playoffs. Big trouble in Cincinnati

Just one man’s opinion, but I think so yes.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Joe Dolan
Chase Brown is so much more explosive than Zack Moss.

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Moss was solid, but yeah, Brown just looks like a big play waiting to happen. They are 0-3. Maybe time to shake things up.

Brown looked electric every time he had the ball in his hands.

Moss wasn’t bad. More of a plodder though.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

Breakout game.

 

[Drake Hater]

Pass catching backs do pretty good against this Panthers defense. Chase getting it done on the ground too. Hope he carries this momentum going forward.

 

[floods]

Everyone knows he's explosive. The biggest contrast between Brown and Moss today is how much more decisive Brown has been.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

I may be forced to start him with JT injured. Let's hope the Cincy staff treats this game as an example why he needs way more touches than Moss going forward.

 

[JohnnyU]

I may be forced to start him with JT injured. Let's hope the Cincy staff treats this game as an example why he needs way more touches than Moss going forward.

We can say that about a lot of young RBs coming into the league over the years. The veteran almost always gets the benefit of the doubt, until they don't. Moss is averaging 3.89 avg., which in today's NFL isn't good at all, but he will continue to be a thorn in Brown's side for now I'm afraid.

Chase Brown certainly looks more explosive. He's averaging 6.3 YPC 29/184/2. With 14 receptions on 15 targets and 156 yards and 1 TD.

 

[zamboni]

As much as we want to wishcast Brown into a full-time role, both RBs seem to be doing a decent job and they probably don't want to overwork one or the other.

 

[JohnnyU]

As much as we want to wishcast Brown into a full-time role, both RBs seem to be doing a decent job and they probably don't want to overwork one or the other.

While I agree with your statement after the "and", I'm not so sure about the statement after "both".

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

As much as we want to wishcast Brown into a full-time role, both RBs seem to be doing a decent job and they probably don't want to overwork one or the other.

It isn’t wish casting to observe that he had half of the offensive backfield touches yesterday.

His prior workload led to FF writers proclaiming it was Moss’ backfield after week 3.

Now it’s a full-blown RBBC, and Brown looks more explosive.

Check the usage trends from weeks 1-4. If that trend continues Brown could be a league winner.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I may be forced to start him with JT injured. Let's hope the Cincy staff treats this game as an example why he needs way more touches than Moss going forward.

I’m almost certainly forced to start him as the BYEs hit, and especially in my larger format leagues (2x 16 team) where rosters are quite a bit thinner than 12-team.

 

[Banger]

The trend is certainly moving the right direction and the good thing is that the team got the win. There's no reason to think that Brown's share won't stay at at least a split and there's reason to think he may increase his share (he's out performed him side by side). On the downside, I don't see them substantially reducing Moss's role so Brown's upside is likely capped except for a Moss injury.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

The trend is certainly moving the right direction and the good thing is that the team got the win. There's no reason to think that Brown's share won't stay at at least a split and there's reason to think he may increase his share (he's out performed him side by side). On the downside, I don't see them substantially reducing Moss's role so Brown's upside is likely capped except for a Moss injury.

Moss will almost certainly still be the preferred option at the stripe.

That said, Moss also has an injury history. Draft sharks puts him at ~68% chance, for whatever that’s worth.

 

[floods]

The trend is certainly moving the right direction and the good thing is that the team got the win. There's no reason to think that Brown's share won't stay at at least a split and there's reason to think he may increase his share (he's out performed him side by side). On the downside, I don't see them substantially reducing Moss's role so Brown's upside is likely capped except for a Moss injury.

Moss will almost certainly still be the preferred option at the stripe.

Historically the case, but Brown was effective. I'd love to see a breakdown of their success rate at the goalline and in short-yardage situations. It will probably be biased toward Brown after this week's performance.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

I think the Bengals would be crazy not to increase Brown's workload. Moss is good in a limited capacity but man, Brown just jumps off the screen in a different way.

Have others gotten any good offers on Brown? Someone offered me Diontae Johnson which I shot down. I want to counter for his Garrett Wilson.

 

[Banger]

I think the Bengals would be crazy not to increase Brown's workload. Moss is good in a limited capacity but man, Brown just jumps off the screen in a different way.

Have others gotten any good offers on Brown? Someone offered me Diontae Johnson which I shot down. I want to counter for his Garrett Wilson.

I would take Diontae and run

 

[RaidersAreOne]

I think the Bengals would be crazy not to increase Brown's workload. Moss is good in a limited capacity but man, Brown just jumps off the screen in a different way.

Have others gotten any good offers on Brown? Someone offered me Diontae Johnson which I shot down. I want to counter for his Garrett Wilson.

I would take Diontae and run

Really? Perhaps I am thinking too highly of Brown. It's a 0.5 PPR league.

 

[Banger]

I think the Bengals would be crazy not to increase Brown's workload. Moss is good in a limited capacity but man, Brown just jumps off the screen in a different way.

Have others gotten any good offers on Brown? Someone offered me Diontae Johnson which I shot down. I want to counter for his Garrett Wilson.

I would take Diontae and run

Really? Perhaps I am thinking too highly of Brown. It's a 0.5 PPR league.

.5 PPR changes things a bit but I still like Johnson. I like Brown and own him in 2 of 3 leagues but without a Moss injury he’s got possible flex value and doesn’t have much value if he doesn’t score.

 

[tigerz]

I think the Bengals would be crazy not to increase Brown's workload. Moss is good in a limited capacity but man, Brown just jumps off the screen in a different way.

Have others gotten any good offers on Brown? Someone offered me Diontae Johnson which I shot down. I want to counter for his Garrett Wilson.

I would take Diontae and run

This. But I must be too high on Dionte. Guy looks like a must start for as long as dalton is in. I still don’t feel comfortable starting brown in any of my leagues with this split backfield unless it’s a bye week and he’s flexing.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

I think the Bengals would be crazy not to increase Brown's workload. Moss is good in a limited capacity but man, Brown just jumps off the screen in a different way.

Have others gotten any good offers on Brown? Someone offered me Diontae Johnson which I shot down. I want to counter for his Garrett Wilson.

I would take Diontae and run

This. But I must be too high on Dionte. Guy looks like a must start for as long as dalton is in. I still don’t feel comfortable starting brown in any of my leagues with this split backfield unless it’s a bye week and he’s flexing.

I just worry the Panthers will turn back to Bryce and Johnson will revert to 3 points a game again.

I see Chase as being an eventual RB1, but again I must be out to lunch because a few people have said Diontae >> Brown.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I see Chase as being an eventual RB1, but again I must be out to lunch because a few people have said Diontae >> Brown.

Age is also a factor

28 y/o Dionte vs 24 y/o Brown

So kinda depends on your roster’s trajectory / timeline.

 

[tigerz]

I think the Bengals would be crazy not to increase Brown's workload. Moss is good in a limited capacity but man, Brown just jumps off the screen in a different way.

Have others gotten any good offers on Brown? Someone offered me Diontae Johnson which I shot down. I want to counter for his Garrett Wilson.

I would take Diontae and run

This. But I must be too high on Dionte. Guy looks like a must start for as long as dalton is in. I still don’t feel comfortable starting brown in any of my leagues with this split backfield unless it’s a bye week and he’s flexing.

I just worry the Panthers will turn back to Bryce and Johnson will revert to 3 points a game again.

I see Chase as being an eventual RB1, but again I must be out to lunch because a few people have said Diontae >> Brown.

Sorry late to the thread, maybe I missed it but is this is dynasty? If it’s dynasty I understand your hesitation. If it’s redraft I stand by my comments. I don’t see how panthers would put Bryce back in this year without seeing significant improvement from him unless dalton gets injured. After this year I’m not even sure if he’ll still be a panther.

 

[shadrap]

I think the Bengals would be crazy not to increase Brown's workload. Moss is good in a limited capacity but man, Brown just jumps off the screen in a different way.

Have others gotten any good offers on Brown? Someone offered me Diontae Johnson which I shot down. I want to counter for his Garrett Wilson.

I would take Diontae and run

Really? Perhaps I am thinking too highly of Brown. It's a 0.5 PPR league.

I watch the Bengals a lot. Moss is not going away. They like the one two punch. Moss is a banger that can also catch. Brown is more explosive. I repeat Moss is not going away and unless injured it's going to be a 50/50 split.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

I think the Bengals would be crazy not to increase Brown's workload. Moss is good in a limited capacity but man, Brown just jumps off the screen in a different way.

Have others gotten any good offers on Brown? Someone offered me Diontae Johnson which I shot down. I want to counter for his Garrett Wilson.

I would take Diontae and run

Really? Perhaps I am thinking too highly of Brown. It's a 0.5 PPR league.

I watch the Bengals a lot. Moss is not going away. They like the one two punch. Moss is a banger that can also catch. Brown is more explosive. I repeat Moss is not going away and unless injured it's going to be a 50/50 split.

That's some good info. I told the owner last night I accept and to send it through, but of course he got cold feet. Classic talker but scared to make any trades.

 

[JFS171]

What are we thinking for Brown’s dynasty prospects in 2025 and beyond? Obviously can’t predict the future and what other backs may be drafted, but if he ends up closer to a 50/50 split the rest of the way, can he lock in a 2/3 to 1/3 split for 2025 and beyond? It’s rare to find RBs that get everything anymore … everyone seems to have a caddy outside of the true elites, and even Bijan and Breece are ceding touches to other RBs.

I’m in a full dynasty rebuild and considering offering win-now assets to lock Brown into my squad for the future 2-3 seasons.

 

[BlackCrowes]

just bought him. needed a RB bad for this week with byes and injuries. i'm in

 

[RaidersAreOne]

just bought him. needed a RB bad for this week with byes and injuries. i'm in

Same here! Let's hope he can replicate last week's output and then some!

 

[menobrown]

What are we thinking for Brown’s dynasty prospects in 2025 and beyond? Obviously can’t predict the future and what other backs may be drafted, but if he ends up closer to a 50/50 split the rest of the way, can he lock in a 2/3 to 1/3 split for 2025 and beyond? It’s rare to find RBs that get everything anymore … everyone seems to have a caddy outside of the true elites, and even Bijan and Breece are ceding touches to other RBs.

I’m in a full dynasty rebuild and considering offering win-now assets to lock Brown into my squad for the future 2-3 seasons.

Agree with everything you are saying here.

Moss has no guarantees on his contract next year but he seems worth about the $3.5m max he'd be due. That might be a good thing for Brown because you touched on the draft and it looks really good for RB's.

So my guess is next year it's this duo again and as you said almost everyone shares now.

Past that I can't say but I am reminded of the comment their OC made about a week before the season when he said Moss was an all around back and Brown was an explosive RB working on being an all around RB. That for sure sounds to me like whatever role Brown has now, it's only going to keep going up.

 

[barackdhouse]

so turns out return yardage points are mattering in Scott Fish Bowl and Chase Brown is killing it. On my bench. lol

 

[menobrown]

so turns out return yardage points are mattering in Scott Fish Bowl and Chase Brown is killing it. On my bench. lol

Same. I had more bench points last week then I think I've ever had, at least feels that way relative to the starters points and he was a big part of it. Had one FFPC league with him where my bench did not just beat my starters, but put a 42 point whipping on them.

 

[menobrown]

Thought this was a good article/breakdown:

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[barackdhouse]

so turns out return yardage points are mattering in Scott Fish Bowl and Chase Brown is killing it. On my bench. lol

Same. I had more bench points last week then I think I've ever had, at least feels that way relative to the starters points and he was a big part of it. Had one FFPC league with him where my bench did not just beat my starters, but put a 42 point whipping on them.

I had J Jennings on a lot of benches last week. Kmet too. The more things change the more they stay the same.

 

[Faust]

Ben Baby

Bengals running back Chase Brown is currently second in the league in yards per rush after first contact (3.34), per ESPN Research. Trails New England's Antonio Gibson.

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Ian Hartitz
Braelon Allen (55%) and Chase Brown (52%) are the only RBs to gain 5+ yards on more than half their carries this season.

Especially surprising to see Brown consistently gaining solid yards and not just being a home run or bust sort of rusher. 6.3 YPC and only a long of 20!

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[RaidersAreOne]

Feed. Him.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Brown once again looked better, had more touches, and moreover it looked like Moss rolled his ankle. Twitter docs are saying it looked like a high ankle sprain.

No victory laps yet - long season. But Brown is getting the heavier receiving role, and is looking like the more explosive back. I started him in 3 leagues today due to BYEs. Starting him next week due to talent.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

just bought him. needed a RB bad for this week with byes and injuries. i'm in

Welcome aboard. Plenty of room on this bandwagon.

 

[ffmail4me]

He looks WAY better than Moss IMO. Has that home run ability on any touch.

 

[jumper]

Brown once again looked better, had more touches, and moreover it looked like Moss rolled his ankle. Twitter docs are saying it looked like a high ankle sprain.

No victory laps yet - long season. But Brown is getting the heavier receiving role, and is looking like the more explosive back. I started him in 3 leagues today due to BYEs. Starting him next week due to talent.

I didn't get to watch the game, but looking at the box score I'm wondering how you say that. It's not like Chase was getting 7 YPC or something and Moss had more receiving targets/yards. Neither guy seems like something to be excited about this year except as a Flex/depth piece for most teams. Even if Moss goes out I'm not really seeing how Moss would be anything better than a low end RB2 no matter what this season, and most games is likely a Flex option at best.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Brown once again looked better, had more touches, and moreover it looked like Moss rolled his ankle. Twitter docs are saying it looked like a high ankle sprain.

No victory laps yet - long season. But Brown is getting the heavier receiving role, and is looking like the more explosive back. I started him in 3 leagues today due to BYEs. Starting him next week due to talent.

I didn't get to watch the game, but looking at the box score I'm wondering how you say that. It's not like Chase was getting 7 YPC or something and Moss had more receiving targets/yards. Neither guy seems like something to be excited about this year except as a Flex/depth piece for most teams. Even if Moss goes out I'm not really seeing how Moss would be anything better than a low end RB2 no matter what this season, and most games is likely a Flex option at best.

I say it because I watched large chunks of that game and that’s what it looked like.

As for the latter, if Moss misses time, Brown with 20+ touches is a league-winner.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

Sounds like Moss is ok:

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I never wish injuries on anyone but I was excited to see what a game from Brown would look like if he was the unquestioned RB1.

 

[jtd13]

Sounds like Moss is ok:

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I never wish injuries on anyone but I was excited to see what a game from Brown would look like if he was the unquestioned RB1.

I'd still say it's a coinflip Moss is back next week. We've seen a lot of teams saying "minor ankle injury" on Monday and then they still miss at least a week.

 

[JohnnyU]

Sounds like Moss is ok:

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I never wish injuries on anyone but I was excited to see what a game from Brown would look like if he was the unquestioned RB1.

I'd still say it's a coinflip Moss is back next week. We've seen a lot of teams saying "minor ankle injury" on Monday and then they still miss at least a week.

per @footballguys -

RB Zack Moss, Cincinnati | Ankle Injury | Projecting Week 9 Return​

Zack Moss missed a portion of Sunday's game with an ankle injury. Moss was able to return but did not look 100%. Moss' mechanism of injury fit that of a high ankle sprain. If this is confirmed, those can result in multiple weeks missed (3), with the majority of NFL RBs missing at least one game.