Chaka
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RB Chase Brown, CIN (15 Viewers)
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RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Granted the Raiders totally suck but man, Chase looks like the real deal. A threat in both the passing and running game. He should be fed like this every week tbh.
If Moss is out long-ish, Brown could be a league winner.
If Moss is out long-ish, Brown could be a league winner.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
The Moss ship sank in the Ohio river.
Some chatter that Moss could be heading to IR soon. Both the SI Bengals writer and Joe Goodberry (a longtime Bengals guy) mentioned that Moss's season is in jeopardy.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
As a Brown owner I wouldn't be against them going after some battering ram to handle short yardage and dirty work (just not all the red zone looks) to keep Chase fresh.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
Cautiously optimistic. He just produced really well but against one of the worst teams in the league on 30+ touches. Let's see him do it again before getting too excited.
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
next three matchups are tough.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
The volume will be there still. Plus he's a threat in the passing game so that bodes well even if Cincy is down.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Also for those worried about wear & tear, while I have no doubts if Moss is toast Cinci will bring in a backup, Brown can handle a workload.
FGB’s own Dave Kluge points out something I’d read previously. Brown isn’t a scat back.
Chaka
Footballguy
Does he have a season ending injury?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I don't think so, but it has been said that moss has taken over the northern side of his body. That may be affecting him.
Pietaster2
Footballguy
Hypothetical:
What would the Bengals RB usage look like if they traded for Khalil Herbert before tomorrow’s trade deadline?
What would the Bengals RB usage look like if they traded for Khalil Herbert before tomorrow’s trade deadline?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I would have a hissy fit. Herbert is one of those RBs that I believe a trade could really help his fantasy value, but the Bengals may not be it. Everyone loses if he goes there imo.
Chaka
Footballguy
Why in the world would the Bengals trade Moss, who may be dying, or perfectly healthy and sign Herbert.
They only trade Moss if they think they have an in house replacement.
Trading Moss would be to obtain draft capital, not to make a lateral move, with said draft capital, for a guy who doesn't know the offense and apparently doesn't take to coaching well.
They only trade Moss if they think they have an in house replacement.
Trading Moss would be to obtain draft capital, not to make a lateral move, with said draft capital, for a guy who doesn't know the offense and apparently doesn't take to coaching well.
Pietaster2
Footballguy
To be clear: I haven't seen anyone saying that the Bengals would trade away Moss. Only an online chorus saying that they're going to trade for Herbert, and that it's imminent.
Chaka
Footballguy
It would be an interesting move, to be sure.
Clearly they see something others have not.
Can't imagine Herbert would be traded anywhere but Dallas. But, what do I know?
My guess is we've seen the last of Moss this year and this comment today should surprise no one:
Zac on adding a RB with Zac Moss’ neck injury“We have to be open to everything”
I would consider Miles Sanders, CEH, Herbert and Jeff Wilson as main candidates. Unless Miami wants to come off Mostert.
Really blanking out on who they could sign as a street FA if they don't swing a trade by tomorrow?
Zac on adding a RB with Zac Moss’ neck injury“We have to be open to everything”
I would consider Miles Sanders, CEH, Herbert and Jeff Wilson as main candidates. Unless Miami wants to come off Mostert.
Really blanking out on who they could sign as a street FA if they don't swing a trade by tomorrow?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Zack Moss, but who’s nitpicking.
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RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Moss out indefinitely with a neck injury.
His value is skyrocketing.
His value is skyrocketing.
It's actually Zack Moss.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
You’re right
Corrected.
nirad3
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Where’s Zach Evans when you need him.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
There’s been chatter of it being a serious neck injury, and tomorrow is the trade deadline.
Nothing is confirmed, but there’s some smoke. We’ll know if there’s fire tomorrow if the Bengals trade for a complimentary back.
themeistersinger
Footballguy
If Moss is in serious jeopardy of missing the rest of the season, the Bengals almost have to make a trade for somebody. Who that is and how much they are willing to pay are certainly up in the air. But there hasn't been as much RB carnage so far as usual, so there might not be as many buyers as usual, so that might help them keep the price down. Also for the sellers, are they eager to dump the guy for whatever they can get (which probably means he's not that good) or would they make the trade for the right offer, but otherwise are happy to stand pat.
My guess is that the Bengals won't really know much by tomorrow afternoon about Moss. Unless it's obvious he's toast, then usually there's specialists to visit, second opinions, third opinions. Sometimes a couple weeks rest might do the trick, sometimes they need season ending surgery. So they could decide to put him on 4 week IR, or keep him on the roster for a week or two, or many other choices.
Trading Moss away is almost certainly not an option - because nobody would take on that risk if they didn't have to. And he would probably not pass a physical on Wednesday.
My guess is that the Bengals won't really know much by tomorrow afternoon about Moss. Unless it's obvious he's toast, then usually there's specialists to visit, second opinions, third opinions. Sometimes a couple weeks rest might do the trick, sometimes they need season ending surgery. So they could decide to put him on 4 week IR, or keep him on the roster for a week or two, or many other choices.
Trading Moss away is almost certainly not an option - because nobody would take on that risk if they didn't have to. And he would probably not pass a physical on Wednesday.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I can’t imagine Dallas trading for anyone. They’re toast. They should be sellers, not buyers.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Damn!!
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
Teams need more than one RB
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Yes, bad for Herbert, not Brown. He could have landed in better spots.
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
someone gave you Bowers and Nico for Brown? Before the Moss injury came out?
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
Deal of the century that
rschroeder1
Footballguy
Couldn't ask for a better situation for Brown owners than the Bengals filling Moss' roster spot with a RB who struggles with pass protection. Herbert presumably fills out special teams, Trayveon Williams is presumably the #2.
Gatorade
Footballguy
in dynasty, someone just offered me a late 2nd and 5th for Chase. then a late 2nd and 4th before revoking both. I just ignored both. anything less than a late 1st is a non starter to me.
About 1-2 minutes before the trade was announced I finished reading an article from this morning by a Bengals beat writer predicting they'd trade for a RB and threw out Herbert, Sanders and Etienne as most likely candidates.
This is a lot better then Etienne for Brown's value. I'd have preferred Sanders over Herbert though but not big of a gap.
To your point they were going to get someone.
sheerterror
Footballguy
Awful. Not even acceptable this past offseason when his owners were just holding onto for the hope of these exact moments (he cost a 2023 2nd as it was). I tagged him at a late 1st price because of this being the potential to happen. Now I wouldn't trade him for that either I don't think.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
People are saying sell high on Chase Brown due to a tough next 3 games + bye week. Would you look to move him in a package for Deebo or Metcalf, or is Chase a true RB1 in peoples eyes and stand pat?
I think Herbert passes Williams in short order, maybe not this week since they play in 2 days, but by week 11 for sure. Herbert is an excellent runner (better than Brown or Moss I'd argue) his issues are entirely passing game related.
I think Herbert is as big a threat to Brown's carries as Moss was.
For Bowers AND Nico? That's outright robbery. Brown isn't worth anywhere near what either of those guys are. Wild to me that someone would hold Nico Collins all through his IR stint, and then trade him AND another top player for Chase Brown. You'd be easily winning that trade even if every game the Bengals played going forward was against the Raiders.
If you need WR help, I think those are reasonable deals to make, as long as you aren't adding too much to them.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
I currently have AJB, Adams, Jayden Reed and DIontae Johnson at WR.
My RBs are JT, Achane, Brown, Ray Davis, Braelon Allen and Allgeier. If Deebo/Metcalf is > Brown in a vacuum, I could look to move him for one of those then say Reed or Adams for an RB?
Although RBs are hard to get in my league.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Herbert is no help in the passing game, whether that's pass protection or catching passes. He will be a guy who gives Brown a breather and that is probably all. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.
Gatorade
Footballguy
If I was in that league, I would have to question that trade
What I see is that Herbert will take the clock killer role once he is up to speed. He will put a dent in Brown's upside for sure.
