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Correct. Which probably isn’t a good thing, considering; because it means he can’t stay healthy & shows what an outlier that stretch of games was.
Is that somehow supposed to be relevant to the Bengals offense he hasn’t played in yet?
Chase Brown is a good pass blocker, so don’t try to slip in pass blocking from Moss.
Odd comparing YPC between players from two different teams as well. From that standpoint Chase was a better running back than Mixon last year.
Brown was a rookie. Moss has been average for 4 years and has performed poorly in the receiving game over the course of those 4 years.
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Actually the ADP says virtually nothing. They’re being taken in the same round.
Exactly. I think that’s a reasonable approach, especially if going WR-heavy early.
Whoa whoa whoa nelly… ya kinda slipped that in there on the sly.
I would note that they didn't even make the starter suit up, he had the game off.
It's actually 4 years, not 5. He was drafted in 2020. You may be counting 2022 as 2 seasons, because he played on 2 different teams that year. And as far as the 14 TD's are concerned, he did that in 484 carries. That's a TD every 34.6 carries, which is very average. In fact, it was a higher TD% than 5 of last year's top 12 RB's (Breece, Rachaad, Bijan, Cook, and Kamara). Using his overall TD totals without saying how many carries he had is very misleading. And saying he has does nothing in the receiving game his entire career is flat out wrong. A tad over 20% of his total yards have come as a receiver, along with 4 TD's, so he does just fine in the receiving game.
You’re right. This is his 5 th year.
It wasn't just a "few game stretch last year" though, he had a very nice few game stretch to end 2022 as well.
Please don't upset the consensus narrative going here
Chase's ADP has been a full round ahead of Moss for about a week now. At least in FFPC, all formats.
Why do you think that is? I have a pretty good idea.
I believe it to be true due to hype on multiple fronts ranging from the puff piece if you will about the work he put in as a receiver, the comments from his coach, comments from his teammate, getting hyped by some fantasy and real life media "experts". What do you attribute to?
Brown had 14 catches on 93 snaps. Moss had 27 catches on 531 snaps. Sight math says Brown's catch rate was almost 3 times higher than Moss per snap.
I mean, the thing to do here is admit you were wrong. Your logic was indeed fallacious - a false conclusion, if you will,
So, you are saying that you expect Zack Moss to significantly outsnap Chase Brown? That's the crux of your argument. If you believe that, that's fine.
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I think so. He's the RB1 on the depth chart and in most situations, people accept that means he's going to be the guy. This is the only RB room in the league where people are willing to look at the depth chart and just ignore it. I don't know of another RB room in the league where people are advocating for the backup more than the guy actually listed as the starter.
Coaches have nuance. For instance, some teams literally have depth charts that say 1A and 1B, that's how they're referring to the competition in Tennessee. If that kind of coach speak was coming out of Cincinnati, then I would put credence in Chase Brown having a comparable workload. But this coach (Zac Taylor) in particular since taking over in 2019 has had no problem giving Joe Mixon the majority of the carries and snaps, he seems to like having a bell cow.
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For me, I think the split will be similar to how Joe Mixon split carries with Samaje Perine the past couple of seasons. Perine had his role as a pass catcher, but the bulk of the snaps and carries went to Joe Mixon. Is Chase Brown better than Samaje Perine? I don't know, maybe, but I do know Samaje Perine had a higher YPC than Chase Brown the last four seasons played (4.5, 4.1, 4.5, 4.8). Maybe Zac Taylor decides to go full blown RBBC and maybe Chase Brown is a better RB than Zack Moss, but I don't see how anyone can logically conclude that would be the case based on the past history of usage and efficiency that we have to work with.
ZAC ON MOSS: Taylor has another different kind of weapon with the Joe Mixon trade yielding free-agent pickup running back Zack Moss and Taylor can't wait to use him.
"He's a great fit for what we're doing on offense," said Taylor, who noticed him on tape as they prepared to play the Colts last season. "He's spent most of his career in the (shot gun) in Buffalo and Indy. That's helpful. That's a big part of our offense as well."
After spending time with Moss, Taylor can see the comparisons to former Bengals running back Samaje Perine when it comes to professionalism and reliability.
"His demeanor. Just the way he carries himself. A lot of things that remind you about Samaje," Taylor said. "He's got a high football IQ, which translates well to pass protection. Good hands coming out of the backfield. I think he's a really patient runner. He does a good job of setting the backers at the second level, exploding through the hole. Really good fit for what we're doing. That's a guy we had targeted and it worked out for us."
So a coach said good things about a FA they signed?
This is a strawman.
Again, you seem to want to “win” this topic, often by bludgeoning us to death with BS.
I'm off of root crops and on to legumes. Try to keep up.
I thought @Anarchy99 did a good job of that.
I can go to the Food Network message board to talk football if you guys want.
