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RB Chris Carson, SEA - 10.7.21 - Neck Issue (3 Viewers)

There is no way they drafted Penny in the first round to be a backup. They know exactly what Carson is.  I’m guessing Proise will take a lot of snaps. 
You know Carson has 48 career carries right? I'm not sure they now "exactly what Carson is"

 
There is no way they drafted Penny in the first round to be a backup. They know exactly what Carson is.  I’m guessing Proise will take a lot of snaps. 
Have you not followed the Seahawks?

Carson has played like 5 career games and has 48 carries. 

This is a team that traded a for 1st round pick for guys like Percy Harvin and Jimmy Graham only to use them as gadet players or red zone guys and they cut bait. This is a team that paid Matt Flynn a lot of money as a free agent and then gave their  3rd round qb the starting job and Flynn never saw the field. 

If it is one thing that you can give Pete Carroll credit for in his time with the Seahawks it is draft position and what you make will not give you a free pass into the starting lineup. He will play the best guy and cut bait when they made the wrong choice on a player. 

 
131 carries is Carson’s career high. He really can’t be counted on to carry the load and stay healthy. He will be a great compliment to Penny with Penny carrying the load. 

 
It's the beginning of camp, it's great that he looks good, but as a Carson Owner, I won't be counting on him to be a starter this year. Let's wait and see what happens in Preseason. Also, it's easy to overlook the weird and poor moves the Seattle FO has made since Wilson carries them, but that GM really should be fired...

 
msudaisy26 said:
Have you not followed the Seahawks?

Carson has played like 5 career games and has 48 carries. 

This is a team that traded a for 1st round pick for guys like Percy Harvin and Jimmy Graham only to use them as gadet players or red zone guys and they cut bait. This is a team that paid Matt Flynn a lot of money as a free agent and then gave their  3rd round qb the starting job and Flynn never saw the field. 

If it is one thing that you can give Pete Carroll credit for in his time with the Seahawks it is draft position and what you make will not give you a free pass into the starting lineup. He will play the best guy and cut bait when they made the wrong choice on a player. 
Possible, but it's highly unlikely you or the other CC lovers on this board know more about him and Penny than their scouts. I'll take Penny in the 2nd half, especially since CC isn't a proven back.

 
Possible, but it's highly unlikely you or the other CC lovers on this board know more about him and Penny than their scouts. I'll take Penny in the 2nd half, especially since CC isn't a proven back.
I don't love Carson, and I have no idea who is going to win. What I was quoting was wrong on all levels. The Seahawks don't know what they have in Carson, he could be a hall of famer or out of the league in 2 years. The Seahawks have consistently let the best guy play and cut bait on anyone else, no matter what they paid and  no matter who it is. I expect this to continue whether it is Carson, Penny, or someone else.

 
Gregg Bell‏@gbellseattle

RB Chris Carson runs out of backfield down left sideline catches Russell Wilson throw and runs 60-plus yards for TD on starters’ first play of mock game. #Seahawks

1:39 PM - 4 Aug 2018 from Renton, WA

 
zeeshan2 said:
Gregg Bell‏@gbellseattle

RB Chris Carson runs out of backfield down left sideline catches Russell Wilson throw and runs 60-plus yards for TD on starters’ first play of mock game. #Seahawks

1:39 PM - 4 Aug 2018 from Renton, WA
So, what I’m taking from this is that the Seahawks D isn’t the “Legion of Doom” anymore. 

 
I think Carrol likes the intensity Carson brings and his relentlessness between the tackles. Despite Penny's size he's not that type of runner. Carson was also very good last year before going down, I loved watching him play.

Carrol has shown that he doesn't let draft capital effect start decisions. I think Penny was a pretty poor pick, especially in the context of SEA letting Collins go the year prior. Ultimately, by the way things seem to be shaking out, I want absolutely no part of this offense (wanted Baldwin before the injury). SEA doesn't look like they'll be good on either side of the ball and as it pertains to this run game, you also can't rule out Prosise operating as the 3rd down back when healthy. When healthy he's electric, and although he probably won't be healthy for long he'll be involved until the inevitable injury. This situation really is the epitome of a cluster####.

 
I think Carrol likes the intensity Carson brings and his relentlessness between the tackles. Despite Penny's size he's not that type of runner. 
People who didn't watch him play last year don't realize this.  He was running in wide open lanes in a small conference.  He's not an ideal NFL between the tackles runner.  He's basically a big 3rd down back.

One of the most overvalued RBs this year.

 
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The Seahawks Wire@TheSeahawksWire

Pete Carroll calls Chris Carson 'the star of the offseason' https://usat.ly/2vPHErD

4:30 PM - Aug 8, 2018

Chris Carson is a great example of that. He was a seventh-round pick last season, who managed to beat out established veteran backs like Thomas Rawls and Eddie Lacy to be the team’s number one back, until he got hurt in Week 4.

Now, he has even more competition after Seattle used their first-round draft pick on running back Rashaad Penny. But that doesn’t mean Carson is going to accept a role as second fiddle, however.

“He had a phenomenal offseason,” coach Carroll commented Tuesday. “He was really the star of the offseason in that he was just so fit, so strong and so explosive from the moment we got back.”

Carson ran with the first team in Seattle’s scrimmage game on Saturday, catching a pass on a wheel route for a touchdown on the first play of the game. Penny ran with the second team.

https://seahawkswire.usatoday.com/2018/08/08/pete-carroll-calls-chris-carson-the-star-of-the-offseason/

 
The Seahawks Wire@TheSeahawksWire

Pete Carroll calls Chris Carson 'the star of the offseason' https://usat.ly/2vPHErD

4:30 PM - Aug 8, 2018

Chris Carson is a great example of that. He was a seventh-round pick last season, who managed to beat out established veteran backs like Thomas Rawls and Eddie Lacy to be the team’s number one back, until he got hurt in Week 4.

Now, he has even more competition after Seattle used their first-round draft pick on running back Rashaad Penny. But that doesn’t mean Carson is going to accept a role as second fiddle, however.

“He had a phenomenal offseason,” coach Carroll commented Tuesday. “He was really the star of the offseason in that he was just so fit, so strong and so explosive from the moment we got back.”

Carson ran with the first team in Seattle’s scrimmage game on Saturday, catching a pass on a wheel route for a touchdown on the first play of the game. Penny ran with the second team.

https://seahawkswire.usatoday.com/2018/08/08/pete-carroll-calls-chris-carson-the-star-of-the-offseason/
He may be the 'star of the offseason' or he may not be, but one thing i've learned is that Carroll saying so has 0% correlation to reality.

 
He may be the 'star of the offseason' or he may not be, but one thing i've learned is that Carroll saying so has 0% correlation to reality.
And I'm not trying to bash Chris Carson in his thread, but even if he was - is it really that meaningful yet? There hasn't even been one preseason game played.

Obviously it's better to hear how good he looks then to hear reports that he's out of shape and struggling, but it just seems a bit too early to take this all that seriously yet.

I have no part of this backfield in dynasty so I'm not rooting one way or the other - in fact I'm interested in learn more for my one redraft league which thankfully does not draft until September.

 
Carson looked solid. Running hard between the tackles and making yards after contact. 

Don't care how this ends, but as a Seahawks fan I have to say that we have been missing a back like that!

 
I would look to take a flier on him but worried he becomes one of those preseason all stars that way over inflates his value.

 
Appearing on NFL Network, Ian Rapoport referred to Chris Carson as the Seahawks' "bellcow" back.

"He's probably going to be their starter," RapSheet reiterated. Rapoport also stated there is some concern Rashaad Penny's hand surgery could cost him 1-2 regular season games. It will certainly limit Penny's ability to practice and improve in pass protection, where he struggled at San Diego State and in Seattle's preseason opener. Carson is shaping up as a viable mid-round RB3/flex.

Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter 

Aug 15 - 9:18 PM

 
Chris Carson is going to explode this season.  I believe his value will never be lower than it is right now.   We saw a glimpse of his potential last season.  I think he will climb more spots on the RB rankings board by mid-season than any other RB in the NFL.

Carson at this moment is a POUND the TABLE BUY  !!!

 
Chris Carson is going to explode this season.  I believe his value will never be lower than it is right now.   We saw a glimpse of his potential last season.  I think he will climb more spots on the RB rankings board by mid-season than any other RB in the NFL.

Carson at this moment is a POUND the TABLE BUY  !!!
Just picked him up in my 17 team work league. All aboard!!

All hype aside, I do agree though. I know it makes no sense, but if Carson continues to impress and Penny isn’t 100% and doesn’t look the part why not ride Carson for a while and see what happens?

 
he looks good.Brian Schottenheimer is like that fat chick 'voice of reason' who babysits that super hot chick you're chatting up ..fatty is really restricting you're chances. Same with Schottenheimer..two good seasons as Jets OC - good in the running dept, but ONLY because they had a fantastic line back then..Seattle has truck drivers and grocery baggers on the oline..tough(er) division - Az and LA Rams defenses look set to dominate. Rams were TERRIBLE under BS's rein as OC from 2012-2015..never ranked higher than 23rd in yards or 21st in pts. he sucks, I would NOT hitch my wagon to anything involving B. Schottenheimer.EVER! Watched this dope coaching the Jets for years.his incompetence is only rallied by the likes of Ray Rhodes, Ray Handley, Adam Gase, among others.

 
Wish Penny hadn’t gotten hurt. Think his price will be too high now. A bit of a bummer
I don't know exactly where he's going right now but I'm sure he'll sneak into the 5th or 6th round by the time I'm drafting. Although I'm sure he'll at least be flex worthy, all the reasons I generally want to stay away from SEA this year (especially their run game) didn't magically disappear because Penny broke his finger. The OL blows, the OC blows, the schedule blows, game flow with likely be negative, Penny will be back, Prosise is still alive for the moment. I'll be rooting for him every week that I'm not playing against him though.

 
I would say this for the Redskins backfield, but not Seattle.

Grab Carson, and enjoy.
I like Carson. 

Seahawks still can’t run block. 

We were over all this last year. I don’t see how they’re better. And they’re likely to have a RBBC from hell after folks return from injury. 

 
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Chris Carson rushed seven times for 26 yards and one touchdown in the Seahawks' third preseason game against the Vikings.

He added two catches for 20 yards on three targets, making a nifty grab on a 2nd-and-4 to pick up a first down. Carson's touchdown was a six-yard scamper paved by RT Germain Ifedi. With Rashaad Penny (finger) still out and gaining a scary amount of weight -- 16 pounds since the Combine -- Carson has locked up No. 1 back duties in Seattle. His ADP continues to climb, and Carson looks all the way back from last year's injury. He'll start the year as an RB2.

Aug 24 - 10:10 PM

 
I don't know exactly where he's going right now but I'm sure he'll sneak into the 5th or 6th round by the time I'm drafting. Although I'm sure he'll at least be flex worthy, all the reasons I generally want to stay away from SEA this year (especially their run game) didn't magically disappear because Penny broke his finger. The OL blows, the OC blows, the schedule blows, game flow with likely be negative, Penny will be back, Prosise is still alive for the moment. I'll be rooting for him every week that I'm not playing against him though.
I watched highlights of him running over people and took him in the 7th. I didn't listen to myself but I do believe that since I typed this SEA's OL has impressed me during preseason action. So now there are only 6 red flags instead of 7. 

 
In PPR, I would go with AB.

In standard I go RB because I don't want Shady or Jordan Howard as my #1 RB.  I took Alvin Kamara at 1.05 because of his explosiveness and he will get more touches in 2018.  I took Davante Adams at 2.08, Tyreek Hill at 3.05 and Royce Freeman at 4.08. 

Got Ingram later for insurance and as a flex when he returns in Week 5.  

 
dcgangstas said:
In PPR, I would go with AB.

In standard I go RB because I don't want Shady or Jordan Howard as my #1 RB.  I took Alvin Kamara at 1.05 because of his explosiveness and he will get more touches in 2018.  I took Davante Adams at 2.08, Tyreek Hill at 3.05 and Royce Freeman at 4.08. 

Got Ingram later for insurance and as a flex when he returns in Week 5.  
Ooof - what an awful draft.  Hope you fare better in your other leagues, you’re done in this one.  

 
Got him @11.1 as my RB5 yesterday in my 12 team, ppr, super-flex redraft.  He was the 43rd RB off the board, Penny went with pick 06.05 as the 23rd RB off the board.  I think I got a great value but I can't help but wondering if I missed something.

 
Got him @11.1 as my RB5 yesterday in my 12 team, ppr, super-flex redraft.  He was the 43rd RB off the board, Penny went with pick 06.05 as the 23rd RB off the board.  I think I got a great value but I can't help but wondering if I missed something.
That’s insane value

 
That’s insane value
That's what I thought, maybe the best in my draft. But this is a 20+ year league with most owners here since the begining. I may be the biggest fanatic of magic Football but definitely not the only one. That's why I keep wondering what I am missing.

 
That's what I thought, maybe the best in my draft. But this is a 20+ year league with most owners here since the begining. I may be the biggest fanatic of magic Football but definitely not the only one. That's why I keep wondering what I am missing.
I drafted Carson 2 rounds after Penny was drafted.  I think I got Carson in round 7.  I didn't really want him but it felt like a good value pick.   

 
Besides being the #1 RB on the Seahawks depth chart and having the trust of Cheatin' Pete, the one thing I liked is that Carson showed improved catching ability out of the backfield. He's still shifty enough to take a short pass and turn it into a big gain, and pass pro/RB catches out of the backfield were a huge point of emphasis in preseason for Seattle. Penny is pretty far behind in that aspect...

The line isn't great but even in negative game flow Carson should still see work (Prosise isn't taking all the work, Penny is not good at Pass Pro). He could be looking at 3 dumpoffs a game to supplement 12-15 carries, which isn't too bad at all. If he stays healthy, I could see Carson being the starter for the whole fantasy season.

 
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