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RB Christian McCaffrey, SF (1 Viewer)

fruity pebbles said:
Not happening anymore. He may be the consensus #1 soon.
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Depends on league scoring and others.  I play in a lot of scaled PPR leagues where RB are .5 and WR are .75 with TE premium at 1.0 or 1.25.  CMc isn't as attractive in those leagues so 1.05 is still in play, but not much lower.   And forget about it in return yard leagues, he's top 2 there with Mixon for me.  Balanced PPR leagues it's a toss-up if he's there or not.

 
Hankmoody said:
Depends on league scoring and others.  I play in a lot of scaled PPR leagues where RB are .5 and WR are .75 with TE premium at 1.0 or 1.25.  CMc isn't as attractive in those leagues so 1.05 is still in play, but not much lower.   And forget about it in return yard leagues, he's top 2 there with Mixon for me.  Balanced PPR leagues it's a toss-up if he's there or not.
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I don't get it.  In ANY ppr league I think he's the #1 pick. 

 
Andy Dufresne said:
I don't get it.  In ANY ppr league I think he's the #1 pick. 
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Well if you fully believe in him sure, that's not a bad stance.  My point though was that in those leagues there's a better chance he slips to 1.05 than in full PPR or return yard leagues.  I have 1.05 in a full PPR + return yards league and a few weeks ago he was the target.  Kiss that goodbye now, and I'm trying to move up to 1.02 as a result.

 
Hankmoody said:
Well if you fully believe in him sure, that's not a bad stance.  My point though was that in those leagues there's a better chance he slips to 1.05 than in full PPR or return yard leagues.  I have 1.05 in a full PPR + return yards league and a few weeks ago he was the target.  Kiss that goodbye now, and I'm trying to move up to 1.02 as a result.
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That makes more sense. I wasn't tracking what you were comparing it to.  

 
steelers1080 said:
I wonder where he got his stats from, because his #s across the board are different than what I was seeing.  Either way, McCaffrey is capable of being a work horse RB imo.
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I dont think that is how you use him though.  You are doing a disservice to him and your team if you try and give him the ball as a RB 20 or so times

 
Broncos GM John Elway said the team likes Stanford RB Christian McCaffrey "a lot."


Unfortunately for Elway, it is unlikely McCaffrey is still on the board when he gets his first chance to pick at No. 20, but the comments suggest Denver could be the running back's floor. A versatile weapon with the patience and vision to thrive in a three-down role despite a lack of ideal size, a case can be made for McCaffrey as the best running back in this draft. As long as the landing spot cooperates, McCaffrey will be one of a couple players worth a look at 1.01 in rookie drafts.

Source: Denver Post
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ESPN's Todd McShay has heard the Panthers could select Stanford RB Christian McCaffrey with the No. 8 overall pick "even if LSU's Leonard Fournette is still on the board."

McShay notes McCaffrey could help fill the Panthers' need at running back as well as slot receiver, and current WRs coach Lance Taylor was McCaffrey's position coach in college. Either way, it is clear the Panthers are seriously considering adding a running back in the first round, and they seem certain to add a rusher early in the draft. Jonathan Stewart's days as the clear lead back seem to be at an end.

Related: Panthers, Leonard Fournette
 
Source: ESPN 
Apr 25 - 12:12 PM
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Maybe this has already been mentioned in this very long thread, but a very telling fact to me of where Run CMC could get drafted is that his RB coach from Stanford is now on Carolina. That guy is sure to sell him hard. McCaffrey on Carolina would be a great fit. Cam can still bull his way to 6-8 1-2 yard TDs while McCaffrey flashes all over the field.

 
buck naked said:
Maybe this has already been mentioned in this very long thread, but a very telling fact to me of where Run CMC could get drafted is that his RB coach from Stanford is now on Carolina. That guy is sure to sell him hard. McCaffrey on Carolina would be a great fit. Cam can still bull his way to 6-8 1-2 yard TDs while McCaffrey flashes all over the field.
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ESPN's Todd McShay has heard the Panthers could select Stanford RB Christian McCaffrey with the No. 8 overall pick "even if LSU's Leonard Fournette is still on the board."

McShay notes McCaffrey could help fill the Panthers' need at running back as well as slot receiver, and current WRs coach Lance Taylor was McCaffrey's position coach in college. Either way, it is clear the Panthers are seriously considering adding a running back in the first round, and they seem certain to add a rusher early in the draft. Jonathan Stewart's days as the clear lead back seem to be at an end.
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buck naked said:
Maybe this has already been mentioned in this very long thread, but a very telling fact to me of where Run CMC could get drafted is that his RB coach from Stanford is now on Carolina. That guy is sure to sell him hard. McCaffrey on Carolina would be a great fit. Cam can still bull his way to 6-8 1-2 yard TDs while McCaffrey flashes all over the field.
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And that's the problem - losing out on those goal line touches is death to his ceiling.  No other QB in the league caps the RB like this.  CMc could be a 70 catch, 1800 yard, 5 TD guy.  Serious limitation on the ceiling.

 
Haha guys. Let's speculate how much yardage he will get before he even has a team. I think when the draft is all said and done our lists and tiers will change a lot. For  cmc in particular, Green Bay, Indy, i think he would do well in Carolina even if cam vultures some, but if he goes to buffalo or Jacksonville I'm a bit more skeptical. 

 
Well do we really think he would be a short yardage goal line back for any other teams? Perhaps his TD upside would be limited due to not being on the field in the first place? Maybe not unique to Carolina.  BTW the numbers above would be good for RB7 in my league last year.  Not uber elite but not a bust exactly. Also I would argue that even if not used in goal line spots, 5 TDs seems a bit low for all those catches and yards being projected.

 
Speaking with league sources, NFL Network's Daniel Jeremiah came away with the opinion that he "wouldn't be shocked" if Stanford RB Christian McCaffrey is picked before the Panthers' selection at No. 8 overall.

Per Jeremiah, McCaffrey and Temple LB Haason Reddick are two of the "hottest" names in league circles at the moment. McCaffrey has long been connected to the Panthers at No. 8, but his stock continues to soar and it sounds like there's a real possibility he could be the top back off the board. We'd still bet on it being LSU's Leonard Fournette, but McCaffrey likely won't be far behind. "He produces points," Jeremiah's sources said about McCaffrey as the reason teams love him.

 
 
Source: Daniel Jeremiah on Twitter
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Rhythmdoctor said:
The kid appears to be a stud and I'm eager to see if he can do it again this year.  If he comes close to matching last year's numbers, you have to assume he'll go top half of the 1st round.  
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petekrum said:
No matter what he does he won't be drafted in the top half of the first round. At best he is the 4th RB taken.
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Rhythmdoctor said:
I'm calling top 5 now, barring injury.  This guy is super special and he did what he did last year at 19 years old.  I can't wait to see what he does this season.  I'm thinking 2,500 all purpose yards is his floor.  His coaches say he's in better physical shape this season than last.  He's only 20 and still growing and developing.  Sky's the limit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f6sZfvxm1k
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petekrum said:
You're calling top 5 picks in the first round!? That shows a stunning lack of football knowledge. There is no chance he goes before Fournette, Cook, or Chubb.
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Just getting these quotes queued up now so I don't have to do the leg work Thursday.

 
Hankmoody said:
And that's the problem - losing out on those goal line touches is death to his ceiling.  No other QB in the league caps the RB like this.  CMc could be a 70 catch, 1800 yard, 5 TD guy.  Serious limitation on the ceiling.
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That would be good for RB7 last year.

 
Faust said:
Speaking with league sources, NFL Network's Daniel Jeremiah came away with the opinion that he "wouldn't be shocked" if Stanford RB Christian McCaffrey is picked before the Panthers' selection at No. 8 overall.
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He tweeted what you posted and followed it up with this tweet: Here's the thing with McCaffrey--even teams with established RB's love him. They can use him so many ways. "He produces points" is the line https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/857037449171742720

So putting 2 and 2 together he's hinting that a team in the top 7 with an established RB(s) loves him and might take him. So that got me thinking, who qualifes?

Browns-arguably established but he won't go 1

49'ers- Hyde established, rumors of interest in Fournette, Kyle could do a lot with him and he might be best WR on team on day one. Don't see it.

Bears-Howard established but he'd be an awesome complement and piece to offense. Don't see it.

Jaguars- no established RB

Titans- interesting because no team in top 7 is in better shape at RB, arguably. But we all know they need a WR and maybe they see him as hybrid playmaker. I think this is slightly possible, but very slight.

Jets-Is Forte still considered established? I don't think so.

Chargers- Gordon established but they need a complement. If McCaffery goes top 7 to team with existing top 7 pick this is my leading candidate. I would imagine for the Chargers, if they are considering him, it's relative to what is left but I would put them as favorite if I'm trying to peg a team Jeremiah is hinting at.

Be glad to know in less than 48 hours and stop speculating but if the went to Chargers or really most of these teams in top 7 it's not exactly what I had planned.

 
menobrown said:
He tweeted what you posted and followed it up with this tweet: Here's the thing with McCaffrey--even teams with established RB's love him. They can use him so many ways. "He produces points" is the line https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/857037449171742720

So putting 2 and 2 together he's hinting that a team in the top 7 with an established RB(s) loves him and might take him. So that got me thinking, who qualifes?

Browns-arguably established but he won't go 1

49'ers- Hyde established, rumors of interest in Fournette, Kyle could do a lot with him and he might be best WR on team on day one. Don't see it.

Bears-Howard established but he'd be an awesome complement and piece to offense. Don't see it.

Jaguars- no established RB

Titans- interesting because no team in top 7 is in better shape at RB, arguably. But we all know they need a WR and maybe they see him as hybrid playmaker. I think this is slightly possible, but very slight.

Jets-Is Forte still considered established? I don't think so.

Chargers- Gordon established but they need a complement. If McCaffery goes top 7 to team with existing top 7 pick this is my leading candidate. I would imagine for the Chargers, if they are considering him, it's relative to what is left but I would put them as favorite if I'm trying to peg a team Jeremiah is hinting at.

Be glad to know in less than 48 hours and stop speculating but if the went to Chargers or really most of these teams in top 7 it's not exactly what I had planned.
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If the Titans pass on a top CB at 5 they'd better trade down or my TV is in for a world of hurt.

And I even like McCaffrey

 
With Shanahan in San Fran now, is it too crazy to wonder about the 49ers picking McCaffrey second overall?

 
Spike said:
With Shanahan in San Fran now, is it too crazy to wonder about the 49ers picking McCaffrey second overall?
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Some believe he is better than Fournette, why is it far fetched to believe Shanahan is any different? He loves McCaffery types more than Fournette types if history shows. He made a name of Freeman when many were down on him the year they drafted Coleman. 

 
Mavis said:
Some believe he is better than Fournette, why is it far fetched to believe Shanahan is any different? He loves McCaffery types more than Fournette types if history shows. He made a name of Freeman when many were down on him the year they drafted Coleman. 
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Part of my point is that I have seen no reports associating McCaffrey with the 49ers and feel he makes more sense with Shanahan than does Fournette.  (Not talking about which of the two is better.)

 
BassNBrew said:
That would be good for RB7 last year.
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And how does that compare to Elliott's rookie year or DJ's first year as a starter?

I didn't say he wouldn't have value, I said his ceiling was limited.  If I'm taking him over Mixon, Cook, and Fournette I want more upside than that, because if any of them get those kind of touches their ceiling is RB1.

 
Hankmoody said:
And how does that compare to Elliott's rookie year or DJ's first year as a starter?

I didn't say he wouldn't have value, I said his ceiling was limited.  If I'm taking him over Mixon, Cook, and Fournette I want more upside than that, because if any of them get those kind of touches their ceiling is RB1.
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Well then you better take one of Mixon, Cook, or Fournette. You don't think those guys will get those touches?

 
Andy Dufresne said:
Well then you better take one of Mixon, Cook, or Fournette. You don't think those guys will get those touches?
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I don't even know what point you are trying to make.

My point was that with Carolina, the big risk of McCaffrey is his potential lack of goal line work.  If they all get the same touches CMc is at a disadvantage due to that.  And no, I'm not 100% confident all those guys will get that touch volume.  Any one of them could end up in some kind of a split or on a bad team that doesn't possess the ball often enough to get them the workload.

 
barackdhouse said:
Well do we really think he would be a short yardage goal line back for any other teams? Perhaps his TD upside would be limited due to not being on the field in the first place? Maybe not unique to Carolina.  BTW the numbers above would be good for RB7 in my league last year.  Not uber elite but not a bust exactly. Also I would argue that even if not used in goal line spots, 5 TDs seems a bit low for all those catches and yards being projected.
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Some guys just have a knack for the endzone and I think McCaffrey is one of those.  Size doesn't make much difference there, it's blocking and either a "getting skinny" attitude with their vision and sneaking by, or "ground and pound" right through the 3 guys who block all the holes.  Obviously we know which one McCaffrey would rather be, and I think his vision and sneakiness is underrated, as well as his power.  He'll be fine in goal line situations.

 
Rhythmdoctor said:
I don't care about your opinion of him. I'm referring more to you calling me out for my 'stunning lack of football knowledge'.
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You know, I already said I was wrong, which is more than I bet you will do if he flops. I admit to coming on to strong on this forum initially,  but I've made an attempt to dial it back in recent months. Seems though that your only attempt is to be a petty a**.

 
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petekrum said:
You know, I already said I was wrong, which is more than I bet you will do if he flops. I admit to coming on to strong on this forum initially,  but I've made an attempt to dial it back in recent months. Seems though that your only attempt is to be a petty a**.
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Resorting to name calling! Nice attempt at dialing it back! Admitting you're wrong is not the same as retracting a comment you made that basically said I'm stupid. Keep doing your thing though! You're a class act (not). 

 
Zyphros said:
Some guys just have a knack for the endzone and I think McCaffrey is one of those.  Size doesn't make much difference there, it's blocking and either a "getting skinny" attitude with their vision and sneaking by, or "ground and pound" right through the 3 guys who block all the holes.  Obviously we know which one McCaffrey would rather be, and I think his vision and sneakiness is underrated, as well as his power.  He'll be fine in goal line situations.
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Yeah I mean I'll buy that. Just not sure if coaches will feel the same way. But people are definitely excited about him.

 
"A source with knowledge of the dynamics" believes the Christian McCaffrey to the Panthers at No. 8 chatter is "likely a smokescreen."

Profootballtalk reports McCaffrey's "expected range" is 5-15. The Panthers have been strongly connected to running backs at No. 8, but there's been growing chatter McCaffrey could be gone by then. Basically, seven hours before the draft, no one has any idea what's going to happen. Buckle up.

Related: Panthers
 
Source: Profootballtalk on NBCSports.com 
Apr 27 - 1:02 PM
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ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Stanford RB Christian McCaffrey is "likely" to go in the top 10.
An NFL GM told Schefter that McCaffrey had the best Combine workout he had ever seen. McCaffrey has been most closely connected to the Panthers at No. 8, but a Thursday report suggested it's a "smokescreen." The Jets at No. 6 and Bengals at No. 9 are two other teams picking in the top 10 that need a running back. LSU's Leonard Fournette might be a stronger consideration for Cincinnati than McCaffrey.

 
 
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter 
Apr 27 - 2:52 PM
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