RB Christian McCaffrey, SF (5 Viewers)

[rockaction]

Dontrell (I almost typed Dalton) Hilliard

If it makes you feel better, I keep mentally referring to him as Dalton. I might have even thought his name was Dalton.

 

[rockaction]

I think Barkley and CMC will spend most of Sunday one upping one another. They are my top-2 RBs this week.

The guy in our league that has both in dynasty would like you to be correct.

As it is, I can see that. For McCaffrey, the Giants linebacking corps is almost hilariously suspect. They cut Blake Martinez. Nobody is going to be able to guard McCaffrey coming out of the backfield. Tae Crowder? Austin Colitro? Please. It's quite possible he runs for days if he doesn't break apart first.

As for Carolina, they have Perryman, Frankie Luvu, and Cory Littleton. That's not a murderer's row, either. Jeremy Chinn might play box safety, but I'm not sure about how they're lining him up this year or how they'll line him up against Saquon. He is likely to have a big day, too.

 

[Bri]

For what it's worth, the Giants got crushed by Dontrell (I almost typed Dalton) Hilliard in the passing game, and he's probably not even 20% the talent CMC is.

I think Barkley and CMC will spend most of Sunday one upping one another. They are my top-2 RBs this week.

Hilliard isn't CMC, who is, but he's a real good third down back. The NFL whiffed on him bouncing team to team and then being a street free agent when the Titans got him. He's finally a nice sub for Henry to get a breather.
CMC needs some rest and was supposed to be getting it this year. They supposedly learned their lesson of overusage and injury. Chuba and Foreman didn't get enough work last week and that's a problem.
I too am going with CMC in DFS but this is really dumb of the Panthers so I'm a bit concerned he gets the expected lighter workload.

 

[zeeshan2]

[Person] Christian McCaffrey: “I think at this point if I went to take a leak during practice, I’d end up on the (injury) report.” Which is to say, he expects to play Sunday despite the ankle stiffness.

 

[The Frankman]

Christian McCaffrey rushed 25 times for 108 yards in the Panthers' Week 3 win over the Saints, adding two catches for seven yards.​

The Saints never showed any life in this game, so the Panthers were able to sit on a lead for almost the entire game. That allowed them to get McCaffrey running downhill versus an exhausted New Orleans defense. McCaffrey was the focal point of the offense, but that mainly came through his work on the ground. He was only targeted four times. The Panthers never made it closer than 16 yards from the end zone, so there was no goal-line work for McCaffrey to take care of. McCaffrey enters Week 4 as a low-end RB1 versus the Cardinals.
- NBCSportsEDGE

 

[Banger]

Haven’t been following him closely…is it him, the offense/play calling or combo? was thinking he might be worth a couple buy low offers to hurting owners

 

[VikingFrog]

Haven’t been following him closely…is it him, the offense/play calling or combo? was thinking he might be worth a couple buy low offers to hurting owners

26 Carries. 100+ yards.

I don’t think anyone is selling low.

 

[chad in Indy]

Haven’t been following him closely…is it him, the offense/play calling or combo? was thinking he might be worth a couple buy low offers to hurting owners

Not sure how you would get to buy low. He's been putting up decent stats, just lack of TDs. But really that seems to be more from the offense hardly running any plays in the red zone.

 

[zeeshan2]

[Person] Matt Rhule said it's a quad injury for Christian McCaffrey. Didn't know about it until after Saints' game. Wouldn't speculate on his status for this week.

 

[Runkle]

Who's the handcuff?

 

[Ardbeg4ever]

Who's the handcuff?

both backups have 4 carries on the season and are listed side by side on the Depth Chart

 

[travdogg]

Who's the handcuff?

Truthfully in all but the deepest of leagues, its probably irrelevant. If CMC is out, the play is to start defenses against Carolina.

That being said, nothing about this sounds like anything serious. Sounds like general soreness on a Wednesday. Wednesdays basically don't matter. If he hasn't practiced by Friday then its something. Frankly, CMC probably shouldn't be practicing on Wednesday ever, nor should most heavily used RBs.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Who's the handcuff?

both backups have 4 carries on the season and are listed side by side on the Depth Chart

I don’t think it’s worth having either because they’ll probably share the CMc role - which in and of itself isn’t so great this year.

 

[Ilov80s]

I wouldn't add a handcuff unless it's a very deep league. The offense sucks and it will be a split backfield. I would rather find a lesser platoon back on a better offense.

 

[Ilov80s]

[Person] Matt Rhule said it's a quad injury for Christian McCaffrey. Didn't know about it until after Saints' game. Wouldn't speculate on his status for this week.

Not worrying yet. We shall see Friday but it feels like they keep coming up with a reason to rest CMC each week.

 

[Gally]

Not worrying yet. We shall see Friday but it feels like they keep coming up with a reason to rest CMC each week.

Which is not a bad thing........assuming it's just an excuse to get rest and nothing of consequence.

 

[zamboni]

Who's the handcuff?

Matt Rhule

 

[menobrown]

He's been putting up decent stats, just lack of TDs

It's the lack of involvement in passing game which is most odd and discouraging. He's never had such an unproductive 3 game stretch as a pass catcher in his career.

 

[TwinTurbo]

He's been putting up decent stats, just lack of TDs

It's the lack of involvement in passing game which is most odd and discouraging. He's never had such an unproductive 3 game stretch as a pass catcher in his career.

Yeah it's mystifying. If it wasn't for Shenault Jr, the Panthers would be 0-3 . If Mayfield can improve, I think CMC will return to elite status. Seriously if a guy is rocking a 51% completion percentage (10 points below his career average), what better way to bump it up than to pass a few to CMC?

 

[GoBirds]

So don’t handcuff is our call? Better to roll dice on Pacheco type with no run so far but more upside?

 

[Phantom Knight]

Haven’t been following him closely…is it him, the offense/play calling or combo? was thinking he might be worth a couple buy low offers to hurting owners

Not sure how you would get to buy low. He's been putting up decent stats, just lack of TDs. But really that seems to be more from the offense hardly running any plays in the red zone.

I am in two leagues, in one an rb has to reach 50 (and in the other 65) yards rushing to receive points for rushing yardage and 50 (and in the other 65) yards to receive points for receiving yardage (so, the two are not cumulative, but rather individual totals), CMC is hurting his owners.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Haven’t been following him closely…is it him, the offense/play calling or combo? was thinking he might be worth a couple buy low offers to hurting owners

Not sure how you would get to buy low. He's been putting up decent stats, just lack of TDs. But really that seems to be more from the offense hardly running any plays in the red zone.

I am in two leagues, in one an rb has to reach 50 (and in the other 65) yards rushing to receive points for rushing yardage and 50 (and in the other 65) yards to receive points for receiving yardage (so, the two are not cumulative, but rather individual totals), CMC is hurting his owners.

You have to admit that your scoring is pretty unusual and probably doesn’t apply to anyone else in this thread.

 

[chad in Indy]

Haven’t been following him closely…is it him, the offense/play calling or combo? was thinking he might be worth a couple buy low offers to hurting owners

Not sure how you would get to buy low. He's been putting up decent stats, just lack of TDs. But really that seems to be more from the offense hardly running any plays in the red zone.

I am in two leagues, in one an rb has to reach 50 (and in the other 65) yards rushing to receive points for rushing yardage and 50 (and in the other 65) yards to receive points for receiving yardage (so, the two are not cumulative, but rather individual totals), CMC is hurting his owners.

That is very odd scoring. Regardless, the OP’s comments were about buying low. I don’t see how CMC owners will jump ship when he is still ranked top 10 in scoring in most leagues. Is he meeting predraft expectations? No. But I don’t see owners bailing three weeks in when he’s still putting up good( not great) points

 

[Hartliner]

[Person] Matt Rhule said it's a quad injury for Christian McCaffrey. Didn't know about it until after Saints' game. Wouldn't speculate on his status for this week.

Report: Panthers concerned about new Christian McCaffrey injury

Christian McCaffrey’s health is once again in focus after the Carolina Panthers running back showed up on the injury report Wednesday.

www.yardbarker.com

The TLDR: They say this is the most significant issue to keep him from practice yet this season... we'll see.

 

[titusbramble]

So don’t handcuff is our call? Better to roll dice on Pacheco type with no run so far but more upside?

God no. I only ever consider it where:

a) the backup is a quality back
b) the backup is going to have a comparable level of workload, or not far off it, and the rushing situation is not going to descend into a RBBC cluster, either with the third back currently on the roster or a veteran free agent backup

Hubbard/Foreman tick neither of those boxes. If CMC tore his ACL this afternoon, do either of them become more than a what the heck flex? Not for me.

 

[Weebs210]

Hubbard was a rookie last year...he could have improved. I'm taking a shot on him and will drop if McCaffrey plays

 

[Gally]

You have to admit that your scoring is pretty unusual and probably doesn’t apply to anyone else in this thread.

I have similar scoring in a league. You get nothing until 40 yds rushing or receiving (not combined). Then you get an additional point every 20 yds but you have to get to that plateau to get the additional point. For QB's it starts at 150 yds passing.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

You have to admit that your scoring is pretty unusual and probably doesn’t apply to anyone else in this thread.

I have similar scoring in a league. You get nothing until 40 yds rushing or receiving (not combined). Then you get an additional point every 20 yds but you have to get to that plateau to get the additional point. For QB's it starts at 150 yds passing.

Ok - I still don’t think that’s a very common scoring system.
Guess I should have said “most” instead of “anyone else”.

 

[VikingFrog]

You have to admit that your scoring is pretty unusual and probably doesn’t apply to anyone else in this thread.

I have similar scoring in a league. You get nothing until 40 yds rushing or receiving (not combined). Then you get an additional point every 20 yds but you have to get to that plateau to get the additional point. For QB's it starts at 150 yds passing.

What is the point of scoring in this way?

To cut down the use of TD Vulture type players?

 

[Gally]

What is the point of scoring in this way?

To cut down the use of TD Vulture type players?

What is the point of any type of scoring? Originally it was probably to make scoring easier to calculate. No decimals and at a quick glance you can total stuff up easily. This is the scoring we used in the league we started over 35 years ago and it has carried over into other leagues I have started since then.

Personally I like it better. I am not sure why and it probably has to do with what I got used to. I have no good reason to like it better. Just a personal preference.

 

[menobrown]

Not an official injury report but not seen at start of practice today by beat writers.

I now believe a strong chance he misses this week and at this point would be happy if that was it.

 

[zeeshan2]

[Schefter] For the second straight day, Panthers’ RB Christian McCaffrey was not spotted at practice due to a quad injury.

 

[titusbramble]

So it begins... this is why I traded down from #2 overall in redraft

 

[DocHolliday]

We all knew when we drafted him that he would be injured. Let’s hope we can get 8 games out of him.

 

[kyoun1e]

Is D. Foreman the add here?

 

[Bozeman Bruiser]

Bump Laviska

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Is D. Foreman the add here?

I let others pick up Foreman and Chubb this week. I'd rather rely on my current depth if McC is out. I see a RBBC between 2 mediocre RBs in a struggling offense - not sure how useful either will be. Let's face it, McC hasn't been all that dominant in 2022 so why would inferior players thrive?

 

[travdogg]

Not an official injury report but not seen at start of practice today by beat writers.

I now believe a strong chance he misses this week and at this point would be happy if that was it.

As a general rule, I look at missed practices as:

out Wednesday=probable
out Thursday=questionable
out Friday=doubtful
ruled out=out

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Is D. Foreman the add here?

I let others pick up Foreman and Chubb this week. I'd rather rely on my current depth if McC is out. I see a RBBC between 2 mediocre RBs in a struggling offense - not sure how useful either will be. Let's face it, McC hasn't been all that dominant in 2022 so why would inferior players thrive?

An excellent point. And Mayfield has been just about the worst QB in football, so it's also likely that CMC's struggles (when not attributed to injury) are a byproduct of poor overall play by the offense.

If I'm an opposing D-Coordinator, I'm getting 8 in the box, and putting a spy on CMC, daring Baker to throw the ball to anyone.

I completely agree that most FF teams have a RB3 better than Foreman/Hubbard. Week 4 seems too early for a desperation play like them in all but very deep leagues. And in those formats, it's hard to drop someone for a Foreman/Chubba.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Haven’t been following him closely…is it him, the offense/play calling or combo? was thinking he might be worth a couple buy low offers to hurting owners

Not sure how you would get to buy low. He's been putting up decent stats, just lack of TDs. But really that seems to be more from the offense hardly running any plays in the red zone.

I am in two leagues, in one an rb has to reach 50 (and in the other 65) yards rushing to receive points for rushing yardage and 50 (and in the other 65) yards to receive points for receiving yardage (so, the two are not cumulative, but rather individual totals), CMC is hurting his owners.

Interesting.

What about TDs? Do they have to hit those Ru/Re plateaus to get credit for a TD scored, or are TDs just TDs?

Never seen that format before. Very challenging league, I would think.

 

[da_budman]

What is the point of scoring in this way?

To cut down the use of TD Vulture type players?

What is the point of any type of scoring? Originally it was probably to make scoring easier to calculate. No decimals and at a quick glance you can total stuff up easily. This is the scoring we used in the league we started over 35 years ago and it has carried over into other leagues I have started since then.

Personally I like it better. I am not sure why and it probably has to do with what I got used to. I have no good reason to like it better. Just a personal preference.

Back in the old days of picking up the USA TODAY to hand score leagues it was quite common to have these sorts of scoring rulews. .... especially zero points unless you got to 100 yards.... and 250 or 300 for qbs.... oh and 6 points for all tds. Scores were quite low way back then.

 

[phandango]

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1575565784759541760

Ian Rapoport

@RapSheet


While #Panthers RB Christian McCaffrey was a DNP again with a thigh issue, my understanding is there is still optimism that he plays. He’s kept it close to the vest, but barring a setback he should be OK.


12:18 PM · Sep 29, 2022

 

[da_budman]

You have to admit that your scoring is pretty unusual and probably doesn’t apply to anyone else in this thread.

I have similar scoring in a league. You get nothing until 40 yds rushing or receiving (not combined). Then you get an additional point every 20 yds but you have to get to that plateau to get the additional point. For QB's it starts at 150 yds passing.

What is the point of scoring in this way?

To cut down the use of TD Vulture type players?

TD vultures were quite valuable back in the day since you get less points for yardage than is common these days.

 

[Phantom Knight]

Haven’t been following him closely…is it him, the offense/play calling or combo? was thinking he might be worth a couple buy low offers to hurting owners

Not sure how you would get to buy low. He's been putting up decent stats, just lack of TDs. But really that seems to be more from the offense hardly running any plays in the red zone.

I am in two leagues, in one an rb has to reach 50 (and in the other 65) yards rushing to receive points for rushing yardage and 50 (and in the other 65) yards to receive points for receiving yardage (so, the two are not cumulative, but rather individual totals), CMC is hurting his owners.

You have to admit that your scoring is pretty unusual and probably doesn’t apply to anyone else in this thread.

I absolutely admit it!
I also admit that I HATE the scoring.... it's two (mostly) local leagues that I play in with my brother. But I hate it the scoring. I mostly posted for a laugh... a head scratch or two... and perhaps a little pity.

 

[Phantom Knight]

Haven’t been following him closely…is it him, the offense/play calling or combo? was thinking he might be worth a couple buy low offers to hurting owners

Not sure how you would get to buy low. He's been putting up decent stats, just lack of TDs. But really that seems to be more from the offense hardly running any plays in the red zone.

I am in two leagues, in one an rb has to reach 50 (and in the other 65) yards rushing to receive points for rushing yardage and 50 (and in the other 65) yards to receive points for receiving yardage (so, the two are not cumulative, but rather individual totals), CMC is hurting his owners.

Interesting.

What about TDs? Do they have to hit those Ru/Re plateaus to get credit for a TD scored, or are TDs just TDs?

Never seen that format before. Very challenging league, I would think.

TDs are scored "normally". There is another perplexing scoring oddity, but I'll just say I absolutely hate the scoring in these two leagues.

 

[Buckna]

You have to admit that your scoring is pretty unusual and probably doesn’t apply to anyone else in this thread.

I have similar scoring in a league. You get nothing until 40 yds rushing or receiving (not combined). Then you get an additional point every 20 yds but you have to get to that plateau to get the additional point. For QB's it starts at 150 yds passing.

What is the point of scoring in this way?

To cut down the use of TD Vulture type players?

TD vultures were quite valuable back in the day since you get less points for yardage than is common these days.

Played in a high stakes local league that was basically a TD only format about 20 years ago. Man I hated the scoring in that league, but it was filled with high rolling guppies. Only issue was the TD only scoring threw predictability out the window. That was also the heydey of TD records getting broken, the league winner usually came down to who had Priest Holmes when he broke the TD record or Shaun Alexander like a year later, then LT another year after that or Peyton his year for the passing TD record.

 

[cracKer]

What is the point of scoring in this way?

To cut down the use of TD Vulture type players?

What is the point of any type of scoring? Originally it was probably to make scoring easier to calculate. No decimals and at a quick glance you can total stuff up easily. This is the scoring we used in the league we started over 35 years ago and it has carried over into other leagues I have started since then.

Personally I like it better. I am not sure why and it probably has to do with what I got used to. I have no good reason to like it better. Just a personal preference.

Back in the old days of picking up the USA TODAY to hand score leagues it was quite common to have these sorts of scoring rulews. .... especially zero points unless you got to 100 yards.... and 250 or 300 for qbs.... oh and 6 points for all tds. Scores were quite low way back then.

"Back in the old days" with USA Today is essentially where IDP started. No excuses for offensive stats

 

[sho nuff]

Personally, hope he sits if its iffy at all. Last thing any of us need are him going out and screwing it up worse or hurting something else as he favors the leg.
After starting Tua last night, probably another week sunk for me (going up against Burrow and Tyreek)...probably doesn't matter so might as well try and keep him healthy. Coaches listen to fantasy players right?

 

[travdogg]

Personally, hope he sits if its iffy at all. Last thing any of us need are him going out and screwing it up worse or hurting something else as he favors the leg.
After starting Tua last night, probably another week sunk for me (going up against Burrow and Tyreek)...probably doesn't matter so might as well try and keep him healthy. Coaches listen to fantasy players right?

He practiced today, part of me wonders if he's mostly ok, and this is all being blown out of proportion because of who it is.

 

[Gottabesweet]

Personally, hope he sits if its iffy at all. Last thing any of us need are him going out and screwing it up worse or hurting something else as he favors the leg.
After starting Tua last night, probably another week sunk for me (going up against Burrow and Tyreek)...probably doesn't matter so might as well try and keep him healthy. Coaches listen to fantasy players right?

He practiced today, part of me wonders if he's mostly ok, and this is all being blown out of proportion because of who it is.

I think/hope this is the case too.