RB Christian McCaffrey, SF (1 Viewer)

[Smack Tripper]

Am I reading your question correctly?

Maybe, not sure haha.

Basically if you own BOTH, is it better or worse for your fantasy team if CMC comes back? (assuming you'd have a better RB2/Flex than Mason with CMC back)

So if your RBs are CMC, Mason, Barkley..... and you can only start 2 RBs. Is it better for your team if CMC comes back? Or if he doesn't and you get a locked in top 10 RB in Mason.

It's worse, IMO. Much, much worse. Because it's not just a question of Barkley v SF RBs (Barkley could easily outperform them) but you also need to factor in the replacement value of the #2 RB behind Barkley

So, IMO Barkley + Mason (or McCaffrey)>>>>Mason + McCaffrey

I know it's not always going to be Barkley in this comparison. At some point Mason+McCaffrey>>Either Mason or McCaffrey+ another RB

Not sure where that line is.

You're really not understanding what I'm asking at all lol

Forget Barkley... I'm saying he is locked into your line up no matter what. You have ONE running back spot, and own both CMC and Mason. Is it better for your fantasy team if CMC comes back and you start him (knowing it will likely be a split with mason, or cmc won't be 100%, or cmc will be pulled in blowouts, etc. etc), or is it better if CMC stays out and you start Mason as the sole back in SF and is a top 10 RB.

Basically if you have both on your roster, is it good or bad if CMC comes back? I would think as an owner of both, that you DON'T want cmc to come back.

I would feel far better starting McCaffrey than a McCaffreyless Mason.

Interesting. I think I take the sure thing top 10 rb over a guy that is going to be in a split, could get re-injured, and could be rested for lots of 4th quarters.

CMC's ceiling is obvious sky high, but I really think it will look more like a 60/40 split even when he returns. I think they will be careful with him and want him for playoffs.

I guess for me the biggest problem here is calling last week's RB23 a sure thing top 10 RB.

ETA: But also I don't think it's going to be a 60/40 split. Unless you mean specifically his first game back, and that game only, but even then I don't know if that would be the case. Or some kind of "yeah he's not going to be right at all this year, but uh, he's okay enough to go out there, uh, we think, so we're gonna bring him back the rest of the year?" type of thing. I was assuming a mostly healthy McCaffrey for this question.

RB 23 without Samuel and Kittle. He was the one to stop. So once they're back he will sit higher

 

[Deamon]

Am I reading your question correctly?

Maybe, not sure haha.

Basically if you own BOTH, is it better or worse for your fantasy team if CMC comes back? (assuming you'd have a better RB2/Flex than Mason with CMC back)

So if your RBs are CMC, Mason, Barkley..... and you can only start 2 RBs. Is it better for your team if CMC comes back? Or if he doesn't and you get a locked in top 10 RB in Mason.

It's worse, IMO. Much, much worse. Because it's not just a question of Barkley v SF RBs (Barkley could easily outperform them) but you also need to factor in the replacement value of the #2 RB behind Barkley

So, IMO Barkley + Mason (or McCaffrey)>>>>Mason + McCaffrey

I know it's not always going to be Barkley in this comparison. At some point Mason+McCaffrey>>Either Mason or McCaffrey+ another RB

Not sure where that line is.

You're really not understanding what I'm asking at all lol

Forget Barkley... I'm saying he is locked into your line up no matter what. You have ONE running back spot, and own both CMC and Mason. Is it better for your fantasy team if CMC comes back and you start him (knowing it will likely be a split with mason, or cmc won't be 100%, or cmc will be pulled in blowouts, etc. etc), or is it better if CMC stays out and you start Mason as the sole back in SF and is a top 10 RB.

Basically if you have both on your roster, is it good or bad if CMC comes back? I would think as an owner of both, that you DON'T want cmc to come back.

LOL bear with me, I'll get there eventually.

CMC coming back is bad. It's very, very bad.

Sorry, but that seems intuitively obvious.

I base that on the notion that, IMO, any version of McCaffrey we see in 2024 will be a "lesser" a lesser version of our logo expectations and will likely be in a split of some magnitude greater than we are accustomed to with CMC.

I would 100% absolutely and unquestionably rather have Mason with Guerendo as his clear backup than CMC with Mason in the picture.

Wouldn't you?

Yes I agree I think. I think it's close though and is a good question. As a Mason AND cmc owner, I'm torn on if it helps or hurts me to have him come back

 

[Chaka]

Am I reading your question correctly?

Maybe, not sure haha.

Basically if you own BOTH, is it better or worse for your fantasy team if CMC comes back? (assuming you'd have a better RB2/Flex than Mason with CMC back)

So if your RBs are CMC, Mason, Barkley..... and you can only start 2 RBs. Is it better for your team if CMC comes back? Or if he doesn't and you get a locked in top 10 RB in Mason.

It's worse, IMO. Much, much worse. Because it's not just a question of Barkley v SF RBs (Barkley could easily outperform them) but you also need to factor in the replacement value of the #2 RB behind Barkley

So, IMO Barkley + Mason (or McCaffrey)>>>>Mason + McCaffrey

I know it's not always going to be Barkley in this comparison. At some point Mason+McCaffrey>>Either Mason or McCaffrey+ another RB

Not sure where that line is.

You're really not understanding what I'm asking at all lol

Forget Barkley... I'm saying he is locked into your line up no matter what. You have ONE running back spot, and own both CMC and Mason. Is it better for your fantasy team if CMC comes back and you start him (knowing it will likely be a split with mason, or cmc won't be 100%, or cmc will be pulled in blowouts, etc. etc), or is it better if CMC stays out and you start Mason as the sole back in SF and is a top 10 RB.

Basically if you have both on your roster, is it good or bad if CMC comes back? I would think as an owner of both, that you DON'T want cmc to come back.

LOL bear with me, I'll get there eventually.

CMC coming back is bad. It's very, very bad.

Sorry, but that seems intuitively obvious.

I base that on the notion that, IMO, any version of McCaffrey we see in 2024 will be a "lesser" a lesser version of our logo expectations and will likely be in a split of some magnitude greater than we are accustomed to with CMC.

I would 100% absolutely and unquestionably rather have Mason with Guerendo as his clear backup than CMC with Mason in the picture.

Wouldn't you?

Yes I agree I think. I think it's close though and is a good question. As a Mason AND cmc owner, I'm torn on if it helps or hurts me to have him come back

It hurts IMO. Beyond the issues we have discussed, you're going to have at least two games of uncertainty on which one to deploy, or both. Possibly more depending on how the first couple games go. That uncertainty could last longer. Over the course of a relatively short regular season that uncertainty hurts.

 

[thecatch]

If you're a CMC AND Mason owner, do you want cmc to return from a fantasy perspective? I wonder if a Mason without any competition might out produce a CMC/Mason combo.

I don't think Mason brings enough in the receiving game to outproduce a CMC/Mason combo. And, so far the goal line opportunities have been a disappointing.

The Niners have 5 rush attempts from inside the 5 for -1 yards with 1 TD. All five attempts were to Jordan. Jordan's two TDs came from 5 & 10 yards out.

My hope, as a Mason manager in my two leagues, is Trent Williams is still rounding into form and those numbers will improve going forward.

This week presents as a golden opportunity for Mason and the Niners. Which means he's going to do something like 22-64-0 rushing with 1-7-0 receiving.

Mason has looked better and better receiving the ball every week. He had a very good game catching yesterday. A couple of them might have been called back, I can't remember, but I was impressed.

 

[thecatch]

Anyone expecting CMC back this year at 100% is delusional, he won’t be, also good chances he’s in a committee. Also chances of re-injuring is very high.

You’re kinda contradicting yourself here. It’s like you’re saying there’s no chance he comes back. But when he does come back, he’ll be in a timeshare? And then he’ll get hurt…. But we don’t need to worry about the timeshare or injury because….he's not coming back?

Honestly, I think I see his point. IF he comes back at all, he won't be the "CMC" you thought you were getting. Timeshare with Mason (and out of the game in blowouts either way) is the best-case scenario, with extra caution if they want to keep him healthy for the playoffs (assuming they're in contention).

I could be wrong (I often am) but the Germany visit looked like grasping at straws. I think it's a lost season, unfortunately.

I don't think Shanahan will be able to help himself from feeding CMC all the time if/when CMC comes back.

 

[JoeJoe88]

If you're a CMC AND Mason owner, do you want cmc to return from a fantasy perspective? I wonder if a Mason without any competition might out produce a CMC/Mason combo.

I don't think Mason brings enough in the receiving game to outproduce a CMC/Mason combo. And, so far the goal line opportunities have been a disappointing.

The Niners have 5 rush attempts from inside the 5 for -1 yards with 1 TD. All five attempts were to Jordan. Jordan's two TDs came from 5 & 10 yards out.

My hope, as a Mason manager in my two leagues, is Trent Williams is still rounding into form and those numbers will improve going forward.

This week presents as a golden opportunity for Mason and the Niners. Which means he's going to do something like 22-64-0 rushing with 1-7-0 receiving.

Mason has looked better and better receiving the ball every week. He had a very good game catching yesterday. A couple of them might have been called back, I can't remember, but I was impressed.

He had a 30+ yard receiving td called back because of penalty

 

[BespokeJort]

If you're a CMC AND Mason owner, do you want cmc to return from a fantasy perspective? I wonder if a Mason without any competition might out produce a CMC/Mason combo.

I don't think Mason brings enough in the receiving game to outproduce a CMC/Mason combo. And, so far the goal line opportunities have been a disappointing.

The Niners have 5 rush attempts from inside the 5 for -1 yards with 1 TD. All five attempts were to Jordan. Jordan's two TDs came from 5 & 10 yards out.

My hope, as a Mason manager in my two leagues, is Trent Williams is still rounding into form and those numbers will improve going forward.

This week presents as a golden opportunity for Mason and the Niners. Which means he's going to do something like 22-64-0 rushing with 1-7-0 receiving.

Mason has looked better and better receiving the ball every week. He had a very good game catching yesterday. A couple of them might have been called back, I can't remember, but I was impressed.

He had a 30+ yard receiving td called back because of penalty

Penalty was a very bad call too (and the broadcast team agreed), not a case of a real hold springing him for something he wouldn’t have gotten otherwise etc

Caught the ball coming back towards the qb, turned upfield and made a guy miss and headed for the end zone. Nothing groundbreaking but a solid receiving play

 

[Insein]

Achilles tendinitis in BOTH legs.

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[zeeshan2]

Now it's clear why Christian McCaffrey went to Germany for treatment on his Achilles.

He doesn't merely have Achilles tendonitis. He has bilateral Achilles tendonitis, which means he has it in both legs. NBC Sports Bay Area's Matt Maiocco reported this Sunday on the 49ers Talk Podcast.
It's unclear whether both Achilles' have been injured all offseason or if McCaffrey originally injured one of them and then injured the second one later on. Keep in mind, last year Dre Greenlaw had Achilles tendonitis for months and then ruptured his other Achilles in the Super Bowl. Sometimes one Achilles injury leads to another.

Either way, McCaffrey is in a tough spot. He needs to make sure he's 100 percent recovered before returning to action because it sounds like he's at risk of tearing both of his Achilles. So the more rest he can get, the better.

Unfortunately for him, the 49ers are entering Week 5 of the regular season, so he's running out of time. That's why head coach Kyle Shanahan said the team intends for McCaffrey to start doing physical activity this week. They hope that he can gradually increase his workload until he's ready to be activated from the Injured Reserve List in the next few weeks.

Going to Germany for treatments that aren't legal in the United States always felt like a Hail Mary move. We'll see if they can prevent McCaffrey from having yet another setback that keeps him out for the rest of the season.

49ers RB Christian McCaffrey Has Achilles Tendonitis in Both Legs

Now it's clear why Christian McCaffrey went to Germany for treatment on his Achilles. He doesn't merely have Achilles tendonitis. He has bilateral Achilles tend

www.si.com

 

[Wingnut]

In a crazy twist, the 49ers win it all without having CMC for a single snap.

 

[icehouse]

That rocket you see going up is Mason's dynasty value.

 

[kyoun1e]

He's not coming back this year.

 

[hotlanta]

He's not coming back this year.

It was reported that he'll be running on grass later this week and eyeing an early-Nov. return.

 

[hotlanta]

If you're a CMC AND Mason owner, do you want cmc to return from a fantasy perspective? I wonder if a Mason without any competition might out produce a CMC/Mason combo.

I don't think Mason brings enough in the receiving game to outproduce a CMC/Mason combo. And, so far the goal line opportunities have been a disappointing.

The Niners have 5 rush attempts from inside the 5 for -1 yards with 1 TD. All five attempts were to Jordan. Jordan's two TDs came from 5 & 10 yards out.

My hope, as a Mason manager in my two leagues, is Trent Williams is still rounding into form and those numbers will improve going forward.

This week presents as a golden opportunity for Mason and the Niners. Which means he's going to do something like 22-64-0 rushing with 1-7-0 receiving.

Mason has looked better and better receiving the ball every week. He had a very good game catching yesterday. A couple of them might have been called back, I can't remember, but I was impressed.

He had a 30+ yard receiving td called back because of penalty

Yep, and all Kittle was doing is normal blocking. No way that was offensive holding or whatever they called on him.

 

[WhoCares]

He's not coming back this year.

It was reported that he'll be running on grass later this week and eyeing an early-Nov. return.

That is one of the least inspiring reports I’ve ever heard.

 

[kyoun1e]

He's not coming back this year.

It was reported that he'll be running on grass later this week and eyeing an early-Nov. return.

I find that hard to believe based on the way this thing has been going.

 

[BespokeJort]

He's not coming back this year.

It was reported that he'll be running on grass later this week and eyeing an early-Nov. return.

I find that hard to believe based on the way this thing has been going.

Yeah. Every single update thus far has been “it’s actually worse than we said last time.” Could this one be the one where that’s not the case? Sure, but the guy who took that bet on the last one lost

 

[BladeRunner]

He's not coming back this year.

It was reported that he'll be running on grass later this week and eyeing an early-Nov. return.

I find that hard to believe based on the way this thing has been going.

Yeah. Every single update thus far has been “it’s actually worse than we said last time.” Could this one be the one where that’s not the case? Sure, but the guy who took that bet on the last one lost

I don't believe anything coming out of SF HQ.

They've been lying, hiding and obfuscating about this entire thing from the start so there is no reason to believe anything they say now.

 

[ghostguy123]

Am I reading your question correctly?

Maybe, not sure haha.

Basically if you own BOTH, is it better or worse for your fantasy team if CMC comes back? (assuming you'd have a better RB2/Flex than Mason with CMC back)

So if your RBs are CMC, Mason, Barkley..... and you can only start 2 RBs. Is it better for your team if CMC comes back? Or if he doesn't and you get a locked in top 10 RB in Mason.

It's worse, IMO. Much, much worse. Because it's not just a question of Barkley v SF RBs (Barkley could easily outperform them) but you also need to factor in the replacement value of the #2 RB behind Barkley

So, IMO Barkley + Mason (or McCaffrey)>>>>Mason + McCaffrey

I know it's not always going to be Barkley in this comparison. At some point Mason+McCaffrey>>Either Mason or McCaffrey+ another RB

Not sure where that line is.

You're really not understanding what I'm asking at all lol

Forget Barkley... I'm saying he is locked into your line up no matter what. You have ONE running back spot, and own both CMC and Mason. Is it better for your fantasy team if CMC comes back and you start him (knowing it will likely be a split with mason, or cmc won't be 100%, or cmc will be pulled in blowouts, etc. etc), or is it better if CMC stays out and you start Mason as the sole back in SF and is a top 10 RB.

Basically if you have both on your roster, is it good or bad if CMC comes back? I would think as an owner of both, that you DON'T want cmc to come back.

LOL bear with me, I'll get there eventually.

CMC coming back is bad. It's very, very bad.

Sorry, but that seems intuitively obvious.

I base that on the notion that, IMO, any version of McCaffrey we see in 2024 will be a "lesser" a lesser version of our logo expectations and will likely be in a split of some magnitude greater than we are accustomed to with CMC.

I would 100% absolutely and unquestionably rather have Mason with Guerendo as his clear backup than CMC with Mason in the picture.

Wouldn't you?

No, seems silly, much rather have CMC back if I owned both. Silly take IMO

 

[menobrown]

They say sex weakens the legs.

Apparently sex with Olivia Culpa weakens both of your Achilles.

 

[zeeshan2]

9ers just signed this guy to a 2 year, 38M dollar extension too

 

[zeeshan2]

They say sex weakens the legs.

Apparently sex with Olivia Culpa weakens both of your Achilles.

I guess you can say sex with her was his Achilles

 

[Deamon]

They say sex weakens the legs.

Apparently sex with Olivia Culpa weakens both of your Achilles.

And they just bought Clooney's mansion for 14.5 Mill this weekend too.

 

[Deamon]

Am I reading your question correctly?

Maybe, not sure haha.

Basically if you own BOTH, is it better or worse for your fantasy team if CMC comes back? (assuming you'd have a better RB2/Flex than Mason with CMC back)

So if your RBs are CMC, Mason, Barkley..... and you can only start 2 RBs. Is it better for your team if CMC comes back? Or if he doesn't and you get a locked in top 10 RB in Mason.

It's worse, IMO. Much, much worse. Because it's not just a question of Barkley v SF RBs (Barkley could easily outperform them) but you also need to factor in the replacement value of the #2 RB behind Barkley

So, IMO Barkley + Mason (or McCaffrey)>>>>Mason + McCaffrey

I know it's not always going to be Barkley in this comparison. At some point Mason+McCaffrey>>Either Mason or McCaffrey+ another RB

Not sure where that line is.

You're really not understanding what I'm asking at all lol

Forget Barkley... I'm saying he is locked into your line up no matter what. You have ONE running back spot, and own both CMC and Mason. Is it better for your fantasy team if CMC comes back and you start him (knowing it will likely be a split with mason, or cmc won't be 100%, or cmc will be pulled in blowouts, etc. etc), or is it better if CMC stays out and you start Mason as the sole back in SF and is a top 10 RB.

Basically if you have both on your roster, is it good or bad if CMC comes back? I would think as an owner of both, that you DON'T want cmc to come back.

LOL bear with me, I'll get there eventually.

CMC coming back is bad. It's very, very bad.

Sorry, but that seems intuitively obvious.

I base that on the notion that, IMO, any version of McCaffrey we see in 2024 will be a "lesser" a lesser version of our logo expectations and will likely be in a split of some magnitude greater than we are accustomed to with CMC.

I would 100% absolutely and unquestionably rather have Mason with Guerendo as his clear backup than CMC with Mason in the picture.

Wouldn't you?

No, seems silly, much rather have CMC back if I owned both. Silly take IMO

I just think he's going to be extremely limited if/when he comes back. With Mason, you have a full load RB1.

Achilles tendonitis sucks. It'll be very sore after running or being on your feet all day, and then you can rest it for a few days to where it feels totally fine, but then 20 minutes into a workout, it's crippling pain again. Sucks.

 

[osubuckeyeman]

I'm not sure why they are even fooling around with his coming back at this point. I mean, bring him back next year.

 

[GreenNGold]

He's not coming back this year.

It was reported that he'll be running on grass later this week and eyeing an early-Nov. return.

It was also reported that he would be good for week 1.

 

[NinerGang]

Trent Williams expects him back “soon” and “he’s improving”https://x.com/coach_yac/status/1841205518888570922?s=46

 

[BladeRunner]

Trent Williams expects him back “soon” and “he’s improving”https://x.com/coach_yac/status/1841205518888570922?s=46

Maybe. What else is he going to say? I'll believe it when he's on the field playing.

Of course, as a Mason owner I'm thinking of his health and think he should just sit the rest of the season out.

 

[WhoCares]

Trent Williams expects him back “soon” and “he’s improving”https://x.com/coach_yac/status/1841205518888570922?s=46

The full quote is much different than picking a couple words to quote:

“He said he’s improving the last I talked to him just a day or two ago. He said the treatment is going great, rehab is going great. I think he’s extremely confident that he’ll be back in the lineup pretty soon. I don’t know how soon, but definitely expecting him this year.”

 

[tigerz]

Would you guys trade McCaffrey for chubba Hubbard? I’m 0-4 and considering since I don’t know if I can make it till he’s back… half ppr.

 

[BladeRunner]

Would you guys trade McCaffrey for chubba Hubbard? I’m 0-4 and considering since I don’t know if I can make it till he’s back… half ppr.

I would. You gotta' do what you gotta' do and McCaffrey is unknow when he'll come back - IF he comes back at all.

 

[osubuckeyeman]

PPR Performance Scoring League: Not involved. CMC for David Montgomery.

This trade went down this morning.

 

[tigerz]

PPR Performance Scoring League: Not involved. CMC for David Montgomery.

This trade went down this morning.

That would have been a no brainer to me. But I’m not getting that in my league. Don’t think I can even get dobbins from this guy for McCaffrey.

Mason owner didn’t want him either.

Only other offer was Kyler Murray and Rachaad white for McCaffrey plus Ridley.

My league has zero trading though.

 

[Banger]

He's not coming back this year.

It was reported that he'll be running on grass later this week and eyeing an early-Nov. return.

I find that hard to believe based on the way this thing has been going.

Yeah. Every single update thus far has been “it’s actually worse than we said last time.” Could this one be the one where that’s not the case? Sure, but the guy who took that bet on the last one lost

more like "CMC has partial tears in both achilles

PPR Performance Scoring League: Not involved. CMC for David Montgomery.

This trade went down this morning.

good value for CMC owner. I wouldn’t have given that much. Even IF CMC comes back, he’ll come back slow and Masons not going away. That CMC is gone.

 

[ZADO]

A packers fan offered me CMC for my # 2 RB J.Jacobs . My # 1 rb is Breece Hall . do i take the chance CMC comes back by November >?

 

[JoeJoe88]

A packers fan offered me CMC for my # 2 RB J.Jacobs . My # 1 rb is Breece Hall . do i take the chance CMC comes back by November >?

I’m keeping Jacobs.

 

[Chaka]

A packers fan offered me CMC for my # 2 RB J.Jacobs . My # 1 rb is Breece Hall . do i take the chance CMC comes back by November >?

The math is pretty simple. Will the difference in production between CMC & Jacobs be greater than the difference between Jacobs & Hall & whoever you might replace CMC with if he doesn't return?

ETA: Without knowing who your replacement option is in the event CMC does not return my feeling is Hall + Jacobs is the better combo.

 

[JoeJoe88]

A packers fan offered me CMC for my # 2 RB J.Jacobs . My # 1 rb is Breece Hall . do i take the chance CMC comes back by November >?

The math is pretty simple. Will the difference in production between CMC & Jacobs be greater than the difference between Jacobs & whoever you might replace him with if CMC doesn't return?

Yes, and I’ll add that while Jacob’s production thus far hasn’t been earth-shattering and likely a little disappointing, he’s had some really bad luck with game script and touchdowns, and that’s going to improve starting this week.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

Here are the chances you take by counting on/trading for CMC for 2024:

1) He is still bothered by the injur(ies). These cropped up now 2 months ago and with elite care, he still had to go to Germany for a treatment not available in the US to TRY and fix the issue.
2) The team themselves have stated that they are targeting a 'November' return. So the earliest we're talking is Week 9. And that feels best case.
3) We saw this with Cooper Kupp last year, but even if/when CMC were to return...it is more than likely that he will not be conditioned to be at his recognizable best. IMO, he's looking to 'contribute'.
4) In his stead, Jordan Mason has shown himself to be a Top 10 RB. It's not like the 49ers are ramming it up the middle for 3.2 YPC.

Ultimately ask yourself what would the motivation for the 49ers to insert him back into the lineup at his 2022-2023 workloads when Mason has essentially assumed them with little friction? Also, knowing that he just signed an extension in June (2 yars; $38M)...it makes sense for the 49ers to be cautious in avoiding a long term serious injury as I think he's now got guaranteed $$ thru 2026.

 

[FairWarning]

Am I reading your question correctly?

Maybe, not sure haha.

Basically if you own BOTH, is it better or worse for your fantasy team if CMC comes back? (assuming you'd have a better RB2/Flex than Mason with CMC back)

So if your RBs are CMC, Mason, Barkley..... and you can only start 2 RBs. Is it better for your team if CMC comes back? Or if he doesn't and you get a locked in top 10 RB in Mason.

It's worse, IMO. Much, much worse. Because it's not just a question of Barkley v SF RBs (Barkley could easily outperform them) but you also need to factor in the replacement value of the #2 RB behind Barkley

So, IMO Barkley + Mason (or McCaffrey)>>>>Mason + McCaffrey

I know it's not always going to be Barkley in this comparison. At some point Mason+McCaffrey>>Either Mason or McCaffrey+ another RB

Not sure where that line is.

You're really not understanding what I'm asking at all lol

Forget Barkley... I'm saying he is locked into your line up no matter what. You have ONE running back spot, and own both CMC and Mason. Is it better for your fantasy team if CMC comes back and you start him (knowing it will likely be a split with mason, or cmc won't be 100%, or cmc will be pulled in blowouts, etc. etc), or is it better if CMC stays out and you start Mason as the sole back in SF and is a top 10 RB.

Basically if you have both on your roster, is it good or bad if CMC comes back? I would think as an owner of both, that you DON'T want cmc to come back.

LOL bear with me, I'll get there eventually.

CMC coming back is bad. It's very, very bad.

Sorry, but that seems intuitively obvious.

I base that on the notion that, IMO, any version of McCaffrey we see in 2024 will be a "lesser" a lesser version of our logo expectations and will likely be in a split of some magnitude greater than we are accustomed to with CMC.

I would 100% absolutely and unquestionably rather have Mason with Guerendo as his clear backup than CMC with Mason in the picture.

Wouldn't you?

Yes I agree I think. I think it's close though and is a good question. As a Mason AND cmc owner, I'm torn on if it helps or hurts me to have him come back

I think Mason will still be 50/50. They will keep the bubble wrap on CMC some until the playoffs.

 

[Deamon]

Am I reading your question correctly?

Maybe, not sure haha.

Basically if you own BOTH, is it better or worse for your fantasy team if CMC comes back? (assuming you'd have a better RB2/Flex than Mason with CMC back)

So if your RBs are CMC, Mason, Barkley..... and you can only start 2 RBs. Is it better for your team if CMC comes back? Or if he doesn't and you get a locked in top 10 RB in Mason.

It's worse, IMO. Much, much worse. Because it's not just a question of Barkley v SF RBs (Barkley could easily outperform them) but you also need to factor in the replacement value of the #2 RB behind Barkley

So, IMO Barkley + Mason (or McCaffrey)>>>>Mason + McCaffrey

I know it's not always going to be Barkley in this comparison. At some point Mason+McCaffrey>>Either Mason or McCaffrey+ another RB

Not sure where that line is.

You're really not understanding what I'm asking at all lol

Forget Barkley... I'm saying he is locked into your line up no matter what. You have ONE running back spot, and own both CMC and Mason. Is it better for your fantasy team if CMC comes back and you start him (knowing it will likely be a split with mason, or cmc won't be 100%, or cmc will be pulled in blowouts, etc. etc), or is it better if CMC stays out and you start Mason as the sole back in SF and is a top 10 RB.

Basically if you have both on your roster, is it good or bad if CMC comes back? I would think as an owner of both, that you DON'T want cmc to come back.

LOL bear with me, I'll get there eventually.

CMC coming back is bad. It's very, very bad.

Sorry, but that seems intuitively obvious.

I base that on the notion that, IMO, any version of McCaffrey we see in 2024 will be a "lesser" a lesser version of our logo expectations and will likely be in a split of some magnitude greater than we are accustomed to with CMC.

I would 100% absolutely and unquestionably rather have Mason with Guerendo as his clear backup than CMC with Mason in the picture.

Wouldn't you?

Yes I agree I think. I think it's close though and is a good question. As a Mason AND cmc owner, I'm torn on if it helps or hurts me to have him come back

I think Mason will still be 50/50. They will keep the bubble wrap on CMC some until the playoffs.

Agree.

So cmc at 50% Of the carries, or Mason at 90%?

 

[FairWarning]

Am I reading your question correctly?

Maybe, not sure haha.

Basically if you own BOTH, is it better or worse for your fantasy team if CMC comes back? (assuming you'd have a better RB2/Flex than Mason with CMC back)

So if your RBs are CMC, Mason, Barkley..... and you can only start 2 RBs. Is it better for your team if CMC comes back? Or if he doesn't and you get a locked in top 10 RB in Mason.

It's worse, IMO. Much, much worse. Because it's not just a question of Barkley v SF RBs (Barkley could easily outperform them) but you also need to factor in the replacement value of the #2 RB behind Barkley

So, IMO Barkley + Mason (or McCaffrey)>>>>Mason + McCaffrey

I know it's not always going to be Barkley in this comparison. At some point Mason+McCaffrey>>Either Mason or McCaffrey+ another RB

Not sure where that line is.

You're really not understanding what I'm asking at all lol

Forget Barkley... I'm saying he is locked into your line up no matter what. You have ONE running back spot, and own both CMC and Mason. Is it better for your fantasy team if CMC comes back and you start him (knowing it will likely be a split with mason, or cmc won't be 100%, or cmc will be pulled in blowouts, etc. etc), or is it better if CMC stays out and you start Mason as the sole back in SF and is a top 10 RB.

Basically if you have both on your roster, is it good or bad if CMC comes back? I would think as an owner of both, that you DON'T want cmc to come back.

LOL bear with me, I'll get there eventually.

CMC coming back is bad. It's very, very bad.

Sorry, but that seems intuitively obvious.

I base that on the notion that, IMO, any version of McCaffrey we see in 2024 will be a "lesser" a lesser version of our logo expectations and will likely be in a split of some magnitude greater than we are accustomed to with CMC.

I would 100% absolutely and unquestionably rather have Mason with Guerendo as his clear backup than CMC with Mason in the picture.

Wouldn't you?

Yes I agree I think. I think it's close though and is a good question. As a Mason AND cmc owner, I'm torn on if it helps or hurts me to have him come back

I think Mason will still be 50/50. They will keep the bubble wrap on CMC some until the playoffs.

Agree.

So cmc at 50% Of the carries, or Mason at 90%?

I’m thinking Mason running and CMC more running off tackle some and receiving.

 

[osubuckeyeman]

If you are trading for him, it should be for next season and under market value. You should not trade for him if you can not afford him to sit the entire season. If he performs over that, then it is just a bonus.

 

[ZADO]

A packers fan offered me CMC for my # 2 RB J.Jacobs . My # 1 rb is Breece Hall . do i take the chance CMC comes back by November >?

The math is pretty simple. Will the difference in production between CMC & Jacobs be greater than the difference between Jacobs & whoever you might replace him with if CMC doesn't return?

Yes, and I’ll add that while Jacob’s production thus far hasn’t been earth-shattering and likely a little disappointing, he’s had some really bad luck with game script and touchdowns, and that’s going to improve starting this week.

Thanks for chiming in guys , i told the guy its too risky and not enough reward .

 

[Wingnut]

McCaffrey's return depends on how he fares in practice, but for now, there is some mild encouragement because the three-time Pro Bowler's calf and Achilles issues did not flare up after on-field work this week -- his first on-field work since being placed on IR

If his progress continues without any setbacks, McCaffrey could return Oct. 20 for a Super Bowl rematch against the Chiefs

There also is a chance McCaffrey could return for an Oct. 27 game against the Cowboys, but even more reasonably, the 49ers could opt to sit McCaffrey for both those games and then give him the bye week to continue to ramp up for their next game at Tampa Bay on Nov. 10.

Sources: Niners won't activate CMC for Week 6

Christian McCaffrey will not be activated for Thursday night's game against the Seahawks, sources told ESPN, even though the 49ers star is eligible to return.

www.espn.com

 

[The General]

Hopefully your German calf implants are ready, Christian.

 

[BladeRunner]

Hopefully your German calf implants are ready, Christian.

Za motherland vill rise once again!!!

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Wondering if anyone has made a trade for this guy lately, redraft or dynasty/keeper, and what the ransom was.

 

[Anarchy99]

Wondering if anyone has made a trade for this guy lately, redraft or dynasty/keeper, and what the ransom was.

Still holding, mostly because the offers I got were laughable. Mostly people's potential roster cuts that they would have to make anyway to pick up free agents.

 

[Chaka]

In redraft I offered McLaurin & Javonte to the McCaffrey manager.

It's a lowball that I doubt he'll accept but his RBs ATM are CMC, Cook, Ford, Tracy & Brooks and his WRs are Puka, Olave, Waddle, Devonta, JSN & Kirk. Dude needs help everywhere.