RB Christian McCaffrey, SF (3 Viewers)

[Chaka]

I don't want to call Shanahan a fraud, he's not. Shannahan knows how to scheme a solid offense for the most part. And you can't just judge a coach simply by his W/L record with and without his best player.

But I'm going to do it anyway.

Since becoming the HC in San Francisco in 2017 Shanahan's overall record is 76-65 (54% win percentage)

In 104 games without McCaffrey his record is 45-59 (43% win percentage)
In 45 games with McCaffrey in the lineup his record is 33-12 (73% win percentage)

I am absolutely not saying Kyle Shanahan sucks but, MY GOD McCaffrey is a difference maker.

You mind running that back with Purdy?

Shanahan with and without Purdy or Purdy with and without McCaffrey? I think Purdy has only played 3 games without McCaffrey, he went 0-3

Shanahan
2025 with Purdy 1-1
2025 with Mac Jones 5-2

Shanahan
2022 with Purdy 8-1
2022 w/o Purdy 7-4
2022 w/o Purdy or CMC 3-3

 

[efactor]

Since becoming the HC in San Francisco in 2017 Shanahan's overall record is 76-65 (54% win percentage)

This is very deceiving

Shanahan took over by far the worst roster in football and going 6-10 year one was nothing short of miraculous. Once they traded for Jimmy G, they actually won some games with a semi-competent QB.

Going into 2018, expectations were over the top IMO. Then Jimmy tears his ACL in game 3 and the season goes to crap. You can't count those seasons against him. It was pretty much a complete rebuild from what he took over.

Third year in he takes them to the super bowl and almost pulls it off despite having Jimmy at QB while the other side had Mahomes. I still think they beat KC in 2023 if Greenlaw doesn't tear his Achilles as he is starting to run onto the field after change of possession. At that point, Kelce had 1 yard receiving. Ended up with almost 100 in the 2nd half.

Kyle is a great coach. This year is testament to that. 6-3 and 3-0 in the division rolling with backups at key positions. Great job.

 

[Chaka]

Since becoming the HC in San Francisco in 2017 Shanahan's overall record is 76-65 (54% win percentage)

This is very deceiving

Shanahan took over by far the worst roster in football and going 6-10 year one was nothing short of miraculous. Once they traded for Jimmy G, they actually won some games with a semi-competent QB.

Going into 2018, expectations were over the top IMO. Then Jimmy tears his ACL in game 3 and the season goes to crap. You can't count those seasons against him. It was pretty much a complete rebuild from what he took over.

Third year in he takes them to the super bowl and almost pulls it off despite having Jimmy at QB while the other side had Mahomes. I still think they beat KC in 2023 if Greenlaw doesn't tear his Achilles as he is starting to run onto the field after change of possession. At that point, Kelce had 1 yard receiving. Ended up with almost 100 in the 2nd half.

Kyle is a great coach. This year is testament to that. 6-3 and 3-0 in the division rolling with backups at key positions. Great job.

I really thought I was clear that I wasn't calling Shanahan a bad coach.

 

[efactor]

Since becoming the HC in San Francisco in 2017 Shanahan's overall record is 76-65 (54% win percentage)

This is very deceiving

Shanahan took over by far the worst roster in football and going 6-10 year one was nothing short of miraculous. Once they traded for Jimmy G, they actually won some games with a semi-competent QB.

Going into 2018, expectations were over the top IMO. Then Jimmy tears his ACL in game 3 and the season goes to crap. You can't count those seasons against him. It was pretty much a complete rebuild from what he took over.

Third year in he takes them to the super bowl and almost pulls it off despite having Jimmy at QB while the other side had Mahomes. I still think they beat KC in 2023 if Greenlaw doesn't tear his Achilles as he is starting to run onto the field after change of possession. At that point, Kelce had 1 yard receiving. Ended up with almost 100 in the 2nd half.

Kyle is a great coach. This year is testament to that. 6-3 and 3-0 in the division rolling with backups at key positions. Great job.

I really thought I was clear that I wasn't calling Shanahan a bad coach.

Well, you implied that while he wasn't a fraud, you were going to call him one anyway and that his success is mainly due to CMC. He almost won the super bowl with Mostert/Coleman and Jimmy at QB. Hardly game changers. He had a lot of success prior to CMC.

He's an elite coach IMO. If the 49ers were stupid enough to part ways with him, his cell phone would be blowing up with coaching offers. As much as I like John Lynch, if he was as good of a GM as Kyle is a coach, they would have had even more success. A lot of blown draft picks along the way. Not sure how much Kyle contributed to those bad draft decisions, but in the end, it's Lynch's call. The last couple years have been better, so maybe it was just a long learning process.

But that said, yes CMC is perfect for his offense and obviously makes it much better

 

[Chaka]

Since becoming the HC in San Francisco in 2017 Shanahan's overall record is 76-65 (54% win percentage)

This is very deceiving

Shanahan took over by far the worst roster in football and going 6-10 year one was nothing short of miraculous. Once they traded for Jimmy G, they actually won some games with a semi-competent QB.

Going into 2018, expectations were over the top IMO. Then Jimmy tears his ACL in game 3 and the season goes to crap. You can't count those seasons against him. It was pretty much a complete rebuild from what he took over.

Third year in he takes them to the super bowl and almost pulls it off despite having Jimmy at QB while the other side had Mahomes. I still think they beat KC in 2023 if Greenlaw doesn't tear his Achilles as he is starting to run onto the field after change of possession. At that point, Kelce had 1 yard receiving. Ended up with almost 100 in the 2nd half.

Kyle is a great coach. This year is testament to that. 6-3 and 3-0 in the division rolling with backups at key positions. Great job.

I really thought I was clear that I wasn't calling Shanahan a bad coach.

Well, you implied that while he wasn't a fraud, you were going to call him one anyway and that his success is mainly due to CMC. He almost won the super bowl with Mostert/Coleman and Jimmy at QB. Hardly game changers. He had a lot of success prior to CMC.

He's an elite coach IMO. If the 49ers were stupid enough to part ways with him, his cell phone would be blowing up with coaching offers. As much as I like John Lynch, if he was as good of a GM as Kyle is a coach, they would have had even more success. A lot of blown draft picks along the way. Not sure how much Kyle contributed to those bad draft decisions, but in the end, it's Lynch's call. The last couple years have been better, so maybe it was just a long learning process.

But that said, yes CMC is perfect for his offense and obviously makes it much better

It's minor, semantical and I'm not trying to pick an iFight.

I literally said that Shanahan is not a fraud.

And I said "...you can't just judge a coach simply by his W/L record with and without his best player."

I apologize for not doing a better job with my point which is how amazing CMC is, not about how good (or bad) Shanahan is.

 

[thecatch]

I don't want to call Shanahan a fraud, he's not. Shannahan knows how to scheme a solid offense for the most part. And you can't just judge a coach simply by his W/L record with and without his best player.

But I'm going to do it anyway.

Since becoming the HC in San Francisco in 2017 Shanahan's overall record is 76-65 (54% win percentage)

In 104 games without McCaffrey his record is 45-59 (43% win percentage)
In 45 games with McCaffrey in the lineup his record is 33-12 (73% win percentage)

I am absolutely not saying Kyle Shanahan sucks but, MY GOD McCaffrey is a difference maker.

If you’re using his first couple of seasons where they tore the roster down to the studs, this isn’t as probative as you think it is.

 

[Chaka]

I don't want to call Shanahan a fraud, he's not. Shannahan knows how to scheme a solid offense for the most part. And you can't just judge a coach simply by his W/L record with and without his best player.

But I'm going to do it anyway.

Since becoming the HC in San Francisco in 2017 Shanahan's overall record is 76-65 (54% win percentage)

In 104 games without McCaffrey his record is 45-59 (43% win percentage)
In 45 games with McCaffrey in the lineup his record is 33-12 (73% win percentage)

I am absolutely not saying Kyle Shanahan sucks but, MY GOD McCaffrey is a difference maker.

If you’re using his first couple of seasons where they tore the roster down to the studs, this isn’t as probative as you think it is.

Boy, I guess I buried the lede.

Not the point, made that clear.

 

[thecatch]

I don't want to call Shanahan a fraud, he's not. Shannahan knows how to scheme a solid offense for the most part. And you can't just judge a coach simply by his W/L record with and without his best player.

But I'm going to do it anyway.

Since becoming the HC in San Francisco in 2017 Shanahan's overall record is 76-65 (54% win percentage)

In 104 games without McCaffrey his record is 45-59 (43% win percentage)
In 45 games with McCaffrey in the lineup his record is 33-12 (73% win percentage)

I am absolutely not saying Kyle Shanahan sucks but, MY GOD McCaffrey is a difference maker.

If you’re using his first couple of seasons where they tore the roster down to the studs, this isn’t as probative as you think it is.

Boy, I guess I buried the lede.

Not the point, made that clear.

I (think?) I understand your intended point from your subsequent posts, but your choice of data didn't do a good job of illustrating it.

 

[Faust]

@NFLPlus
Christian McCaffrey passes HOF Marshall Faulk for the most career seasons with 5+ rush and rec TDs in NFL history (4)

@49ers | #FTTB

https://x.com/nflplus/status/1990178694628020660?s=61

 

[Uncle Leo]

My favorite player in the NFL. Yeah, it’s nice to have him on my fantasy team. I’m a Giants fan, but I would rock CMC Jersey for sure.

 

[TampaMike19]

Should’ve just done the easy thing and listened to what the team was telling us. They kept him and had barely any quality depth behind him. Crazy year so far

 

[Faust]

Coach Yac
Greg Cosell on Christian McCaffrey:

“Say what you want about McCaffrey, I’m sure many of your listeners don’t think he’s the same guy as 3 or 4 years ago, he is a hard runner. He gets hard earned yards. We’ll see as the season progresses if he can get first level space, where he can get to the second level. He’s running well. It’s funny, I speak to my guys in the matchup room here and we all watch tape and I say to them 'do to see any difference in McCaffrey?', and they say 'no, he looks like McCaffrey'.”

via: @957thegame

https://x.com/coach_yac/status/1991545766704193641?s=61

 

[Faust]

How Christian McCaffrey became a scrimmage yard king

 

[Wingnut]

Christian McCaffrey has 81 catches (and counting) this season.

That leads the NFL.

 

[Faust]

Next Gen Stats
Christian McCaffrey forced 11 missed tackles against the Panthers, tied for the 5th-most by any player in a game this season.

McCaffrey leads the NFL with 83 missed tackles forced entering the Week 13 slate, 10 away from his 2023 career-high of 93.

#CARvsSF | #FTTB

https://x.com/nextgenstats/status/1993178398689312796?s=61

 

[drummer]

Christian McCaffrey has 81 catches (and counting) this season.

That leads the NFL.

Because his QB's are mediocre and playing in a last place sched.

 

[Faust]

Underdog NFL
Games with 100+ scrimmage yards this season:

Christian McCaffrey - 10
James Cook - 8
Jaxon Smith-Njigba - 8
Bijan Robinson - 7

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1993152992871432247?s=61

 

[Wingnut]

Christian McCaffrey forced 11 missed tackles against the Panthers, tied for the 5th-most by any player in a game this season.

McCaffrey leads the NFL with 83 missed tackles forced entering the Week 13 slate, 10 away from his 2023 career-high of 93.

Carry chart from tonight:

https://x.com/NextGenStats/status/1993178398689312796?t=a_TT_M7brZCptYoJhYmm-Q&s=19

 

[mrfrood]

Christian McCaffrey forced 11 missed tackles against the Panthers, tied for the 5th-most by any player in a game this season.

McCaffrey leads the NFL with 83 missed tackles forced entering the Week 13 slate, 10 away from his 2023 career-high of 93.

Carry chart from tonight:

https://x.com/NextGenStats/status/1993178398689312796?t=a_TT_M7brZCptYoJhYmm-Q&s=19

He still gots it

 

[ffmail4me]

Hope people didn't sell cheap earlier in the year. I was trying to shop him but refused to move him cheap. Glad he's still on my rosters. He and Gibbs are going to win a LOT of people titles this year me thinks.

 

[MAC_32]

Hope people didn't sell cheap earlier in the year. I was trying to shop him but refused to move him cheap. Glad he's still on my rosters. He and Gibbs are going to win a LOT of people titles this year me thinks.

For better or worse, I pegged him a few years ago as a guy I'd probably ride to the finish line. Sure, there may be a bill to pay for a year whenever the cliff hits, but hopefully that return will be the 1st overall pick in a top-heavy draft.