RB Chuba Hubbard, CAR (1 Viewer)

[pack66]

Have Brooks in my IR spot and thinking of offering ETN for Hubbard. May even include a WR (guy owns Rice) to sweeten the deal.

Smart? Dumb?

As a Hubbard owner, I wouldn't take that deal. I think you'd have to offer a WR2 for me to consider.

 

[Faust]

Marcus Mosher
Rushing success rate through Week 5 (min 50 attempts):

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Ray G
Chuba Hubbard is one of the better RBs in the league and people left him for dead all summer.

Y’all really gotta stop making football more difficult than it needs to be.

Good Football Player.

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[Hot Sauce Guy]

Brooks isn’t just going to walk into lineup off the IR as a rookie and get meaningful touches coming off a serious injury. No chance.

I said before they should ease him back - and if they’re playing like this, he shouldn’t come back this year. Why rush him for nothing.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Have Brooks in my IR spot and thinking of offering ETN for Hubbard. May even include a WR (guy owns Rice) to sweeten the deal.

Smart? Dumb?

As a Hubbard owner, I wouldn't take that deal. I think you'd have to offer a WR2 for me to consider.

As a Chuba shareholder I’d take ETN for him pretty easily.

From what I’ve been reading, ETN dinged his shoulder again. Sure it’s a RBBC, but long-term I like ETN more.

 

[kyoun1e]

Have Brooks in my IR spot and thinking of offering ETN for Hubbard. May even include a WR (guy owns Rice) to sweeten the deal.

Smart? Dumb?

As a Hubbard owner, I wouldn't take that deal. I think you'd have to offer a WR2 for me to consider.

As a Chuba shareholder I’d take ETN for him pretty easily.

From what I’ve been reading, ETN dinged his shoulder again. Sure it’s a RBBC, but long-term I like ETN more.

So would I.

 

[jm192]

Brooks isn’t just going to walk into lineup off the IR as a rookie and get meaningful touches coming off a serious injury. No chance.

I said before they should ease him back - and if they’re playing like this, he shouldn’t come back this year. Why rush him for nothing.

This.

I was huge on Chuba during draft season. Seemed like an easy 6-8 starts, and even when Brooks comes back, how much do they want to use him in a lost season?

Chuba's been better than I thought. The Panthers aren't winning anything this year. Protect the kid long term. I've always assumed they want to get Brooks SOME touches so he has some live game experience to adjust to the size/seed of the NFL.

But there's really no need for him to be used differently than Benson in Arizona.

 

[Payne]

Have Brooks in my IR spot and thinking of offering ETN for Hubbard. May even include a WR (guy owns Rice) to sweeten the deal.

Smart? Dumb?

As a Hubbard owner, I wouldn't take that deal. I think you'd have to offer a WR2 for me to consider.

Now maybe. I posted that prior to this past weekend.

 

[RaidersAreOne]

Dude just keeps producing.

 

[Runkle]

Panthers considering opening Brooks' 21 day window this week

 

[kyoun1e]

Think it will be a while before Brooks makes a dent. Coach with a glowing report on Chubba today:

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[Faust]

Panthers RB Chuba Hubbard: 'I just want to be great'

 

[kyoun1e]

Not feeling great about this week. The matchup is downright terrible against @Den.

I can't imagine the insertion of B. Young is going to help matters on offense either.

In addition, I could see DEN just pounding their RBs, killing the click, etc.

Only other option is JSN who is not to be trusted either.

 

[sheerterror]

Not feeling great about this week. The matchup is downright terrible against @Den.

I can't imagine the insertion of B. Young is going to help matters on offense either.

In addition, I could see DEN just pounding their RBs, killing the click, etc.

Only other option is JSN who is not to be trusted either.

Hoping for his mostly usual 4-5 catches so he can get 10-12pts for me and then move onto another week. He's been a beyond steady DD guy all year, I think he'll still find away to get within a few pts of his ppg avg.

 

[jm192]

Not feeling great about this week. The matchup is downright terrible against @Den.

I can't imagine the insertion of B. Young is going to help matters on offense either.

In addition, I could see DEN just pounding their RBs, killing the click, etc.

Only other option is JSN who is not to be trusted either.

That's where I'm at on it. Trying to bench him if I have better options.

Everyone was awful with Young at QB. Everyone seemed to take off once Bryce was benched. Add in a tough Denver Defense, and no thank you.

 

[Runkle]

Not feeling great about this week. The matchup is downright terrible against @Den.

I can't imagine the insertion of B. Young is going to help matters on offense either.

In addition, I could see DEN just pounding their RBs, killing the click, etc.

Only other option is JSN who is not to be trusted either.

My opponent has Kupp and Kyren going tonight on TNF. I might wait and see how they score vs. projections and then decide if I want a "might get me 4, might get me 6" Chuba or pivot to a "might get me 10, might get me 0" alternate if I need someone with more upside.

 

[Banger]

Denver has a tough defense but not a dynamic offense so he should get some touches. All he needs are a few catches and it’s a solid day.

 

[Timmay]

My only worry with any Carolina game is the other team getting too far ahead and Carolina abandoning the run. Hopefully Chuba can get some receptions this week.

 

[zoonation]

Do not sit him.

 

[kyoun1e]

Not feeling great about this week. The matchup is downright terrible against @Den.

I can't imagine the insertion of B. Young is going to help matters on offense either.

In addition, I could see DEN just pounding their RBs, killing the click, etc.

Only other option is JSN who is not to be trusted either.

That's where I'm at on it. Trying to bench him if I have better options.

Everyone was awful with Young at QB. Everyone seemed to take off once Bryce was benched. Add in a tough Denver Defense, and no thank you.

Yup.

I don't see an upside this week and in this particular league my opponent projects for the moon. 10-12 points aint gonna do it.

 

[kyoun1e]

Do not sit him.

Would like to hear the logic behind the confidence.

I see 15-52-0 and 4-11.

 

[kyoun1e]

My only worry with any Carolina game is the other team getting too far ahead and Carolina abandoning the run. Hopefully Chuba can get some receptions this week.

In the two games Hubbard played with B. Young he averaged 8 carries a game vs. 17.4 with Dalton under center.

Last week, Kamara was held to 10 yards on 7 carries.

 

[Bri]

He has to play due to possible proprioception issues. Looking at his knee not looking forward, maybe questioning his balance and all sorts. He absolutely has to get that out of his system. It could be with limited reps but...

A surgically repaired knee swells up some with a workout and progressively swells less n less until that's done. Trainers can push him but they can't emulate a game. I'm sure he wants that sort of extra healing to be done with too.

He's playing

Chuba was on fire and isn't anymore. This thread doesn't seem to bring that up curiously.

I think they're going to give Brooks some work and from there it'll depend how the knee is responding and how the game is going too.

It rarely ever happens that the shiny new toy is kept in the toy box in the NFL.

 

[jm192]

He has to play due to possible proprioception issues. Looking at his knee not looking forward, maybe questioning his balance and all sorts. He absolutely has to get that out of his system. It could be with limited reps but...

A surgically repaired knee swells up some with a workout and progressively swells less n less until that's done. Trainers can push him but they can't emulate a game. I'm sure he wants that sort of extra healing to be done with too.

He's playing

Chuba was on fire and isn't anymore. This thread doesn't seem to bring that up curiously.

I think they're going to give Brooks some work and from there it'll depend how the knee is responding and how the game is going too.

It rarely ever happens that the shiny new toy is kept in the toy box in the NFL.

Chuba's had 1 bad game of late, and that was a total systems failure. I'm not sure that game says anything about Chuba.

I'm sure Brooks gets on the field and sees SOME touches. But it really makes no sense to give him a significant workload in a lost season while he's finding his way back off an ACL tear.

 

[Krilons Resa]

I was able to trade him away for James Cook last night.

 

[Bri]

I was able to trade him away for James Cook last night.

Why? Ray Davis doesn't concern you here?

 

[FairWarning]

He has to play due to possible proprioception issues. Looking at his knee not looking forward, maybe questioning his balance and all sorts. He absolutely has to get that out of his system. It could be with limited reps but...

A surgically repaired knee swells up some with a workout and progressively swells less n less until that's done. Trainers can push him but they can't emulate a game. I'm sure he wants that sort of extra healing to be done with too.

He's playing

Chuba was on fire and isn't anymore. This thread doesn't seem to bring that up curiously.

I think they're going to give Brooks some work and from there it'll depend how the knee is responding and how the game is going too.

It rarely ever happens that the shiny new toy is kept in the toy box in the NFL.

It’s definitely time to sell Hubbard to another with bye-week issues. Hopefully he can hang in there for another 2-3 weeks.

 

[Krilons Resa]

I was able to trade him away for James Cook last night.

Why? Ray Davis doesn't concern you here?

To an extent, yes. However, not to the extent that Brooks coming in does and Buffalo offense v. Carolina offense isn’t close, with even more of a chasm with Bryce Young at QB.

I’ll also add that the complete trade was Hubbard/Worthy for Cook/Pickens.

 

[kyoun1e]

I was able to trade him away for James Cook last night.

I'm going hunting for trades today/tmrw. I'm not starting Hubbard this week. Would be curious to know what people have landed for him. His trade value per various charts is still pretty high.

Would anyone trade Hubbard for Dowdle at this point? or N. Harris?

 

[Sir Psycho]

I have J.Taylor waiting....
If he start then I'll sit Hubbard

 

[Payne]

I was able to trade him away for James Cook last night.

Great trade. You got the better RB and Brooks is a bigger threat going forward than Davis.

 

[jm192]

I was able to trade him away for James Cook last night.

Why? Ray Davis doesn't concern you here?

To an extent, yes. However, not to the extent that Brooks coming in does and Buffalo offense v. Carolina offense isn’t close, with even more of a chasm with Bryce Young at QB.

I’ll also add that the complete trade was Hubbard/Worthy for Cook/Pickens.

You need to go into hiding my friend.

FBI is on their way to investigate this grand larceny.

 

[BassNBrew]

I was able to trade him away for James Cook last night.

Why? Ray Davis doesn't concern you here?

To an extent, yes. However, not to the extent that Brooks coming in does and Buffalo offense v. Carolina offense isn’t close, with even more of a chasm with Bryce Young at QB.

I’ll also add that the complete trade was Hubbard/Worthy for Cook/Pickens.

You need to go into hiding my friend.

FBI is on their way to investigate this grand larceny.

Wish I got offers like this.

 

[BassNBrew]

Just sent out three different offers of Hubbard for Cook. We'll see what happens.

 

[BassNBrew]

The time to trade him in dynasty was 24 hours ago. The window has closed.

Not every rookie RB can pass protect. Not every rookie RB makes the transition to the NFL.

And almost no NFL team uses a feature back - especially not a rookie.

I wouldn’t start shoveling dirt on Chuba’s grave just yet. People did that last year when Miles Sanders signed. They were wrong.

Hubbard was RB36 on a ppg basis. Rooster clogger.

The time to trade him in dynasty was 24 hours ago. The window has closed.

Not every rookie RB can pass protect. Not every rookie RB makes the transition to the NFL.

And almost no NFL team uses a feature back - especially not a rookie.

I wouldn’t start shoveling dirt on Chuba’s grave just yet. People did that last year when Miles Sanders signed. They were wrong.

Hubbard was RB36 on a ppg basis. Rooster clogger.

He was better as the season went on and the staff realized Miles Sanders can't play. Plus Carolina spent overt $100 million to bring in 2 new OGs. In theory, it should be a better offensive environment. I agree long term Chuba isn't valuable but I think in 2024 he could be a cheap RB3 for a contending dynasty team.

Cheap RB3 makes sense. Probably a 16th round pick.

Chuba is the perfect Zero RB target. He'll be putting up ho-hum RB2 numbers for 5-6 weeks.

Last year he was more than mediocre. He was flex worthy every week, just about. He was also a fluid receiver IIRC, and with the depth of weapons in Carolina, I don’t see him coming off the field that much even when Brooks comes back.

I’ve also read a few football analysts who are pretty bear-ish on Brooks. One called him a one year wonder. 51 carries combined in his first two years, and then only 187 in his last year? I’m struggling to see why this guy is such a threat to Chubba Hubbards numbers.

I kind of feel like Brooks has more shine by being considered the best of a bad bunch of running backs in this year’s draft. Watching a few of the other rookies now, I’m not so sure that’s even true.

We will see what happens, but I’m still very high on Chuba Hubbard this year.

Well done @Hot Sauce Guy. Your advice was difference making. Fortunately I did get him in several leagues in the 15 to 16 round range when people were drafting SF and Dallas D.

 

[zoonation]

Do not sit him.

Would like to hear the logic behind the confidence.

I see 15-52-0 and 4-11.

that's the floor. who else are you putting in for him with a floor like that?

 

[jm192]

Do not sit him.

Would like to hear the logic behind the confidence.

I see 15-52-0 and 4-11.

that's the floor. who else are you putting in for him with a floor like that?

Normally when people say "That's the floor," it implies there's upside beyond the floor. I'm not sure there is.

Carolina offense with Young is completely inept. The Denver defense is very good. I expect an extremely ugly day for the Carolina offense.

Edit: Apparently Diontae Johnson is out too. They'll stack the box against the run all day.

 

[kyoun1e]

Do not sit him.

Would like to hear the logic behind the confidence.

I see 15-52-0 and 4-11.

that's the floor. who else are you putting in for him with a floor like that?

JSN. Assuming Metcalf doesn't play. BUF D gives it up to the slot.

No D. Johnson now either. Can't see CAR moving the ball at all.

 

[kyoun1e]

Do not sit him.

Would like to hear the logic behind the confidence.

I see 15-52-0 and 4-11.

that's the floor. who else are you putting in for him with a floor like that?

Normally when people say "That's the floor," it implies there's upside beyond the floor. I'm not sure there is.

Carolina offense with Young is completely inept. The Denver defense is very good. I expect an extremely ugly day for the Carolina offense.

Edit: Apparently Diontae Johnson is out too. They'll stack the box against the run all day.

Exactly.

 

[zoonation]

Do not sit him.

Would like to hear the logic behind the confidence.

I see 15-52-0 and 4-11.

that's the floor. who else are you putting in for him with a floor like that?

JSN. Assuming Metcalf doesn't play. BUF D gives it up to the slot.

No D. Johnson now either. Can't see CAR moving the ball at all.

i'd probably do that too. you've got me thinking about making a move to someone else.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Well done @Hot Sauce Guy. Your advice was difference making. Fortunately I did get him in several leagues in the 15 to 16 round range when people were drafting SF and Dallas D.

I'mma bench him this week.

 

[kyoun1e]

Well. well. welll...

Jonathon Brooks (knee) is doubtful for Week 8 against the Broncos.
In an exchange with reporters, Dave Canales explained Brooks’ current week-to-week status and seemingly acknowledged Brooks could miss the 2024 season. Canales began by saying that Brooks met this week’s goal simply by practicing three days in a row. Canales then said he wants “to make sure that [Brooks is fully confident and ready to go, and I think that’s another week... We’ll go hard next week and try to get him ready.” Canales was then asked, “does the possibility exist that [Brooks] does not play this year?” to which Canales replied, “it could—it could be. But, again, we’re just [going to] take it week-to-week right now.”

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Well. well. welll...

Jonathon Brooks (knee) is doubtful for Week 8 against the Broncos.
In an exchange with reporters, Dave Canales explained Brooks’ current week-to-week status and seemingly acknowledged Brooks could miss the 2024 season. Canales began by saying that Brooks met this week’s goal simply by practicing three days in a row. Canales then said he wants “to make sure that [Brooks is fully confident and ready to go, and I think that’s another week... We’ll go hard next week and try to get him ready.” Canales was then asked, “does the possibility exist that [Brooks] does not play this year?” to which Canales replied, “it could—it could be. But, again, we’re just [going to] take it week-to-week right now.”

They have nothing to play for. No reason to rush him back.

I need Dalton back behind center though.

 

[Ilov80s]

Well. well. welll...

Jonathon Brooks (knee) is doubtful for Week 8 against the Broncos.
In an exchange with reporters, Dave Canales explained Brooks’ current week-to-week status and seemingly acknowledged Brooks could miss the 2024 season. Canales began by saying that Brooks met this week’s goal simply by practicing three days in a row. Canales then said he wants “to make sure that [Brooks is fully confident and ready to go, and I think that’s another week... We’ll go hard next week and try to get him ready.” Canales was then asked, “does the possibility exist that [Brooks] does not play this year?” to which Canales replied, “it could—it could be. But, again, we’re just [going to] take it week-to-week right now.”

They have nothing to play for. No reason to rush him back.

I need Dalton back behind center though.

No such thing as nothing to play for in October

 

[kyoun1e]

Brooks downgraded to out.

Wondering when this guy will actually hit the field.

 

[Ilov80s]

Brooks downgraded to out.

Wondering when this guy will actually hit the field.

A couple weeks maybe?

 

[menobrown]

They have nothing to play for. No reason to rush him back.

They do not but to me it speaks to the dysfunction of the teams decision makers if this ends up being the outcome.

They got a load of needs, have to be on everyone's list of two worst rosters in the league. Instead they take the first RB in the draft, would blow 1 of the 4 years they got him dirt cheap on his rookie contract and really did not even get much if any discount on what they'd have got if he was healthy.

I thought Canales or Pierce were the two worst coaching hires of this last cycle. Making Dan Morgan the GM after he was trained in the art of dysfunction by the past regime was an even a worse hire.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Brooks downgraded to out.

Wondering when this guy will actually hit the field.

How’s never. Is never good for you?


2025 seems realistic.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

A couple weeks maybe?

Game 1, 2025. Maybe.

 

[Krilons Resa]

There is no way Brooks doesn't play this year. That's not how teams/coaches/players operate. I know we are talking about the Carolina Panthers here but still...

If you actually watch the video that the above clickbait blurb was referring to, you come out with a totally different perspective; I did anyhow.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

I think it's fairly likely what anyone takes away from any information being reported about Brooks at this stage is predicated almost entirely on whether or not that individual holds any share of Brooks.