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The thing is we never know and nobody is right 100% of the time. There were certainly some glaring signs but the “Chiefs offense” was too tempting to pass up. I had the 1.01 and took Lamb, but looking back obviously wish I went with Taylor.
Exaggeration understandable to a degree when you see a guy players like Godwin and Robinson avoiding it after late season severe injuries.
He may already be off, showed up this morning dressed to practice.
Yeah - I’ve been cautioning people about PUP usage the last week or so. Teams play all sorts of shenanigans with the PUP a week before camp. I’m not sure what the purpose is, but a couple days ago there were like 20 updates in a row about players who seemingly weren’t hurt going on PUP.
Something fairly significant. When I trade, I like to use market values as a gauge. Keep Trade Cut has it as CEH + somebody like Kadarius Toney or Miles Sanders for a mid-first.
‘23 hype is out of control. You’d need to add more than a 2nd. I’d want another young piece (Aiyuk, Claypool, Doctson) with upside for me to consider moving my future 1st. I like CEH at his price, but ain’t that big of a homer.
Despite all my talk, I have a share in him in one league. We can commiserate. In a dispersal draft I did, I passed up on some very good players. Like Aaron Jones good. I did draw the shortest straw and picked last, though. And I was going young and CEH seemed like the right fit for that.
(it's not beer for me, it's a deep-brown antioxidant smoothie)
I've bought low a few times this offseason (or that is the theory because obviously it could go lower). I still stand by my take that the reasons (most not all) people don't like him are based on what I think are flawed reasons. I think it is plausible that his dip in receiving stats last year were in an effort to limit his work after that offseason surgery. Perhaps his rushing attempts as well. That said it was certainly a big surprise to everyone that he got less targets than 2020 and that isn't something I would refer to as a flawed reason to be negative on someone. Especially since that was supposed to be one of his strengths. But perhaps there was more of an explanation behind it than "he is a bust."Despite all my talk, I have a share in him in one league. We can commiserate. In a dispersal draft I did, I passed up on some very good players. Like Aaron Jones good. I did draw the shortest straw and picked last, though. And I was going young and CEH seemed like the right fit for that.
Re-reading this thread last night was unreal. The certitude in here was part of what convinced me to take a shot as a late as last year. I thought I was missing something with my confirmation bias. People were really, really high on this guy.
If he was truly hurt last year from the offseason surgery and he rounds back into form, he's a viable RB2, though that's never really what we're shooting for unless we stink and need to fill out our roster requirements. In that league, I do stink. So here's to hoping.
It is beer for me ATM but I had my protein smoothie for breakfast already.
Oh yeah. I tried to put him on the block last year and barely got any offers, so I don't think I'm moving him. Well, I got an offer for a late second, but I didn't want that. I highly doubt I'll sell at his price right now because there are so many question marks in this year's rookie class that it might behoove me just to stay in the game with him and hope he comes back strong.
People have also tended to over-exaggerate the significance of CEH.Dr. Octopus said:
Go back and read the thread if you get time. This guy was…wow, let’s just say ballyhooed isn’t a strong enough word.
I have good news and bad news. In 2020 in fantasy legends 1 & 2 I had the 1.02 pick in both leagues via trades. The good news is I got Taylor in FLL1 and the bad news I got CEH in FLL2. I still have that bum, but it can’t be as bad as the poor souls who took him over Taylor.
His rookie year wasn't terrible. Why can't we write off last year? JT explosion blinding your reality? They can't all be that special!
The reality I see is that he has been a bust. Can it change? I suppose never say never. I’m justified in my feelings about CEH at this point considering his initial cost.
Yep
It’s weird how just because CEH isn’t JT people write him off as bad. He had >1k yards y1 and was injured on/off in y2. He’s going to eclipse 1000-1200 yards easily if healthy and be a value pick in PPR leagues.
The good thing if you want hope is none of the other RBs outside of McKinnon really excel in the passing game - and no team can depend on McKinnon at this point.
I got same sense and it led to get back on CEH to a degree, and by degree I'm talking like late 6th-7th round of FFPC drafts. I can't say I felt good about either time and when I did post draft reviews pretty much told myself that's not something I want to keep doing.
