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RB D’Andre Swift, CHI (1 Viewer)

He was always hurt when he was with the Lions
One of the greatest exaggerations in fantasy football over the last few years.
He was very frequently hurt. Played the vast majority of the games, but frequently played hurt. I see the kid play and don't know how he's not a superstar among RBs. May just be my Swift-truther-goggles, but they're Gorilla glued onto my eyes, I'd take them off if I could.
I don't know about that, thought Staley in fact criticized him for not pushing through enough games.

It's a position that has a lot of injuries. He was mid in that department, not excessive and I'll continue to assert his injury history with the Lions was wildly overblown, mainly by butthurt fantasy owners.
So what exactly are you saying? That he wasn't hurt in the games that he played? He was hurt only during the 3-4 missed games per year (and whatever time remained of games that he left in the middle)?

And therefore that Staley's criticism was addressing his missed games, and not anything to do with in-game situations?
 
He was always hurt when he was with the Lions
One of the greatest exaggerations in fantasy football over the last few years.
He was very frequently hurt. Played the vast majority of the games, but frequently played hurt. I see the kid play and don't know how he's not a superstar among RBs. May just be my Swift-truther-goggles, but they're Gorilla glued onto my eyes, I'd take them off if I could.
I don't know about that, thought Staley in fact criticized him for not pushing through enough games.

It's a position that has a lot of injuries. He was mid in that department, not excessive and I'll continue to assert his injury history with the Lions was wildly overblown, mainly by butthurt fantasy owners.
So what exactly are you saying? That he wasn't hurt in the games that he played? He was hurt only during the 3-4 missed games per year (and whatever time remained of games that he left in the middle)?

And therefore that Staley's criticism was addressing his missed games, and not anything to do with in-game situations?
I'm saying he was a little hurt in some games, like most RB's in the NFL. Some games he missed, some he played limited snaps but it was not many.

Basically like majority of starting RB's in the NFL. Some better, some worse but average on the whole for injuries, missed games/time.
 
He was always hurt when he was with the Lions
One of the greatest exaggerations in fantasy football over the last few years.
He was very frequently hurt. Played the vast majority of the games, but frequently played hurt. I see the kid play and don't know how he's not a superstar among RBs. May just be my Swift-truther-goggles, but they're Gorilla glued onto my eyes, I'd take them off if I could.
I don't know about that, thought Staley in fact criticized him for not pushing through enough games.

It's a position that has a lot of injuries. He was mid in that department, not excessive and I'll continue to assert his injury history with the Lions was wildly overblown, mainly by butthurt fantasy owners.
So what exactly are you saying? That he wasn't hurt in the games that he played? He was hurt only during the 3-4 missed games per year (and whatever time remained of games that he left in the middle)?

And therefore that Staley's criticism was addressing his missed games, and not anything to do with in-game situations?
I'm saying he was a little hurt in some games, like most RB's in the NFL. Some games he missed, some he played limited snaps but it was not many.

Basically like majority of starting RB's in the NFL. Some better, some worse but average on the whole for injuries, missed games/time.
I see. So you don't think his lower touch numbers with Detroit had much to do with playing hurt.
 
He was always hurt when he was with the Lions
One of the greatest exaggerations in fantasy football over the last few years.
He was very frequently hurt. Played the vast majority of the games, but frequently played hurt. I see the kid play and don't know how he's not a superstar among RBs. May just be my Swift-truther-goggles, but they're Gorilla glued onto my eyes, I'd take them off if I could.
I don't know about that, thought Staley in fact criticized him for not pushing through enough games.

It's a position that has a lot of injuries. He was mid in that department, not excessive and I'll continue to assert his injury history with the Lions was wildly overblown, mainly by butthurt fantasy owners.
So what exactly are you saying? That he wasn't hurt in the games that he played? He was hurt only during the 3-4 missed games per year (and whatever time remained of games that he left in the middle)?

And therefore that Staley's criticism was addressing his missed games, and not anything to do with in-game situations?
I'm saying he was a little hurt in some games, like most RB's in the NFL. Some games he missed, some he played limited snaps but it was not many.

Basically like majority of starting RB's in the NFL. Some better, some worse but average on the whole for injuries, missed games/time.
I see. So you don't think his lower touch numbers with Detroit had much to do with playing hurt.
Other then a small handful of games, no I really don't think so. Just not who he is as a player, was always a committee RB even in college.

His last year in college he averaged 14 carries a game. Same as with Eagles last year. Those are career highs. Other then that his highest is 11.6. His career high in total touches is in the 16's, which was last year and abbreviated 13 game season with Lions in his second season.

Just nothing about him ,healthy or not, has ever been any kind of indication that's he can handle being anything remotely like some kind of bell cow role. I've been saying for years around here that's ok, just have to use him the right way and IMO it was not how the Eagles used him last year. I thought he wore down last year on just 14 carries and a few receptions a game. Just looked like his legs were a little shot, IIRC correctly Aikman said same thing in a game I was watching late in the year which I just say to reinforce it's was not just my imagination. He's strong, sturdy built, but just for whatever reason it's just not in his DNA to be a workhorse type, the law of diminishing returns comes quick with him.

This is all part of why I've bee very high on the Bears signing him. Loved the commitment for starters, but also not worried about presence of other RB's and view the role they are saying they envision for him, as a weapon, as ideal for what he brings to the table.
 
He was always hurt when he was with the Lions
One of the greatest exaggerations in fantasy football over the last few years.
He was very frequently hurt. Played the vast majority of the games, but frequently played hurt. I see the kid play and don't know how he's not a superstar among RBs. May just be my Swift-truther-goggles, but they're Gorilla glued onto my eyes, I'd take them off if I could.
I don't know about that, thought Staley in fact criticized him for not pushing through enough games.

It's a position that has a lot of injuries. He was mid in that department, not excessive and I'll continue to assert his injury history with the Lions was wildly overblown, mainly by butthurt fantasy owners.
So what exactly are you saying? That he wasn't hurt in the games that he played? He was hurt only during the 3-4 missed games per year (and whatever time remained of games that he left in the middle)?

And therefore that Staley's criticism was addressing his missed games, and not anything to do with in-game situations?
I'm saying he was a little hurt in some games, like most RB's in the NFL. Some games he missed, some he played limited snaps but it was not many.

Basically like majority of starting RB's in the NFL. Some better, some worse but average on the whole for injuries, missed games/time.
I see. So you don't think his lower touch numbers with Detroit had much to do with playing hurt.
Other then a small handful of games, no I really don't think so. Just not who he is as a player, was always a committee RB even in college.

His last year in college he averaged 14 carries a game. Same as with Eagles last year. Those are career highs. Other then that his highest is 11.6. His career high in total touches is in the 16's, which was last year and abbreviated 13 game season with Lions in his second season.

Just nothing about him ,healthy or not, has ever been any kind of indication that's he can handle being anything remotely like some kind of bell cow role. I've been saying for years around here that's ok, just have to use him the right way and IMO it was not how the Eagles used him last year. I thought he wore down last year on just 14 carries and a few receptions a game. Just looked like his legs were a little shot, IIRC correctly Aikman said same thing in a game I was watching late in the year which I just say to reinforce it's was not just my imagination. He's strong, sturdy built, but just for whatever reason it's just not in his DNA to be a workhorse type, the law of diminishing returns comes quick with him.

This is all part of why I've bee very high on the Bears signing him. Loved the commitment for starters, but also not worried about presence of other RB's and view the role they are saying they envision for him, as a weapon, as ideal for what he brings to the table.
We have to hear how good Swift is going to be every year.
 
This is all smoke no fire. I have him and offers (2) have been this short of awful. Why this much speculation on an RB who under-achieves each year? I have him at flex at best. last year was well short of what was expected, right?
 
Swift has a bunch of talent. I don't know why the Eagles never used him in high leverage situations (4 minute, 2 minute, goal line) and always went with Gainwell. Well I know why, the Eagles OC was in waaaaay over his head and got the absolute least out of that offense. With a half competent OC and if Swift stays healthy, another 1000 yard season should be really easy for him. He could easily get 10 TDs since he won't have Jalen Hurts poaching them from him anymore.
I think people are underestimating Khalil Herbert's role this year. He's a very talented runner and the Bears will want to keep Swift healthy, so I think he gets a similar amount of carries while Swift gets almost all the work in the passing game. Johnson will have a role as well.

I just don't see 1000 yards rushing with 10 TDs as being "easy" for him.
100% agree. Herbert is objectively a better runner than Swift, and one of the better runners in the NFL. There's a very real shot that Herbert is the RB to own in Chicago, at least once the weather turns bad. At the very least he's a significantly bigger threat than Gainwell was. Roschon might have missed his chance, and also just isn't really all that talented in my opinion. I think Swift's signing relegates Johnson to ST.

Assuming Swift does see 50-55% of the carries, I'd say that puts him around 170 carries, so that's maybe 800 yards (and 4.7 YPC is probably a big ask with Fields gone, and this not being Philly or Detroit's OL)

I think something like 40-300-2 is a fair receiving projection. Sure. he's capable of more, but he's also likely 5th in the pecking order in Chicago, behind Moore, Allen, Odunze, and Kmet. Swift is a high-end RB3 in my opinion, which is where he's currently being drafted.

You don't sign a guy to a 3 year, $24M contract (3rd highest for RBs this offseason) with the thinking that you're going to have him split carries 50/50 with a guy already on your roster. If that was your plan, then signing a guy like Ekeler would have made more sense.
Not really. If you have the money, which the Bears do, it makes perfect sense to get who they think is the best player. Keep him healthy. Herbert is a really good runner but not a very good receiver.
Exactly, it’s essentially a 2 year $16M deal that’s nothing to them with a QB on a rookie deal. Isn’t Swift a good pass blocker as well which often limited his receptions on actually running a route?
 
This is all smoke no fire. I have him and offers (2) have been this short of awful. Why this much speculation on an RB who under-achieves each year? I have him at flex at best. last year was well short of what was expected, right?
You're not wrong, was hoping for better than RB19. Not to make excuses, but it can't be ignored that Hurts had so many goalline runs, and that Swift just was not used in the passing game as much as we'd want to see. Not to mention he got almost no work in week 1.

Weeks 2 and 3, as short-lived as it was, really showcased his big-time ability. Not saying much because every RB can have a week or two like that.
 
Swift has a ton of physical talent but gets benched for making bad decisions repeatedly. Glad he got a bag but I doubt this is the year he figures it out. Herbert is much more efficient and Roschon is super versatile. If they’re all healthy it might be a situation to avoid. My $0.02.
 
This is all smoke no fire. I have him and offers (2) have been this short of awful.
I had him in two dynasty leagues. Never got a single offer in either of them but one day I offered him up for 1.8, had to end up kicking in a 2025 projected late third but this was also before cuts when we can only keep 14 position players so seemed like a not awful return to me for someone to give up 1.8 and a valuable roster spot for him and a likely late future third. Never offered him in a trade in the other league.

t. last year was well short of what was expected, right?
You're not wrong, was hoping for better than RB19.
He did not set the world on fire but in FFPC leagues he was drafted as RB29 last August so hard for me to say he fell short of expectations.

Weeks 2 and 3, as short-lived as it was, really showcased his big-time ability
Part of the issue with him which I'll address below and why I think people have always been more down on him then his actual performance suggests because at times he looks dynamic, like league winning but he generally turns out to be merely good instead of great.

We have to hear how good Swift is going to be every year.
Why this much speculation on an RB who under-achieves each year?
He looks really dynamic at times like I was saying above so I fully get why people hoped for more but what you have been hearing from me the last few years is that there seems to be so much bellyaching over his production that how actually productive he is seems to be lost in the shuffle.

He's played 56 out of 66 games, 85% of games possible, average of 2.5 games missed a year at a fairly volatile position for missed games which is not outstanding but not that horrible and in those 56 game he's averaged 14.19 fantasy points a game which is typically going to put you in the RB15 range.

If you drafted him or have had him for years he's been a rock solid, mainly high end RB2 who has been a valuable contributor to a lot of teams, sure has been for mine.

That's just the math of it, not really much of an opinion.
 
I own Swift and Herbert in same dynasty league which sucks. That said, I think Herbert is the better runner and all round NFL player.
 
I own Swift and Herbert in same dynasty league which sucks. That said, I think Herbert is the better runner and all round NFL player.
Herbert is one of those guys that seems to look great but none of the Bears coaching staffs seem to believe in him. Every year new guys are brought in and Herbert never gets a look to be the lead back.
 
I own Swift and Herbert in same dynasty league which sucks. That said, I think Herbert is the better runner and all round NFL player.
Herbert is one of those guys that seems to look great but none of the Bears coaching staffs seem to believe in him. Every year new guys are brought in and Herbert never gets a look to be the lead back.
Right. And a lot of key people from the offensive staff went on to key roles at other teams. Guys like Nagy and Getsy who have teams where the #2RB's are not set in stone and appear weak. Doubt Herbert would cost much, don't see any of them wanting him.

So it's not just THIS Bears regime or staff. It's multiple. He was not drafted high either so it's not like he came into the league in high demand and no matter what he does can't seem to create a lot of support for his services.

Meanwhile Swift got the second most guarantees and IMO the third best contract of any FA RB.

So at the risk of sounding harsh when I hear people say they think Herbert is a better player then Swift I can't help but think stuff like "so what"? Again, welcome to your opinion, part of what makes sports fun, but really for purposeof real life playing time and this hobby really "so what".
 
I think Herbert is what he is at this point. He's an above average RB2 who runs well, but is a mixed bag with pass blocking and receiving skills. He looks great in the 10-12 touches a game range. He just doesn't look like a guy any team wants to give 200 carries to.

These role specific running backs just don't seem to hold much value in the league as I think teams know they can draft one trick pony RBs late in the draft for a fraction of a Vets salary.
 
Interesting (and not surprising in my opinion) that Swift seemed more like a 3rd down RB than a true starter. There probably isn't a Bears RB worth much unless at least 1 other guy gets injured. Swift at his ADP is an easy pass, where Herbert is probably worth a flier late, but no promises.
 
A little concerning that it was all Herbert and no Swift running the ball
Wasn't watching the game, but was it possible that Swift was sat down after the 42 yard reception, early in the 1st quarter. Maybe they saw what they wanted to. They played Herbert in the Hall of Fame Game when many starters, including Swift, sat.
 
A little concerning that it was all Herbert and no Swift running the ball
I think it was more an assessment of seeing Herbert with the starters. I think he and Roschon are closer in the coaches eyes than we do.

Herbert didn't really pop outside of one run today.
 
The Bears played Caleb Williams the entire first half today, and 0 touches to Swift. Which at first was concerning. But then I realized Keenan Allen and DJ Moore each had only 1 target. So I think it was probably just the rookie starters that actually stayed in, and the vet starters just a few plays.
 
The Bears played Caleb Williams the entire first half today, and 0 touches to Swift. Which at first was concerning. But then I realized Keenan Allen and DJ Moore each had only 1 target. So I think it was probably just the rookie starters that actually stayed in, and the vet starters just a few plays.
It's preseason.
Don't overthink it.
 
The Bears played Caleb Williams the entire first half today, and 0 touches to Swift. Which at first was concerning. But then I realized Keenan Allen and DJ Moore each had only 1 target. So I think it was probably just the rookie starters that actually stayed in, and the vet starters just a few plays.

I looked it up earlier. DeAndre Swift is being taken at ADP 72. Isiah Pacheco is being taken at ADP 22.


The difference in their PPG total last year? 2 points. I think he's one of the steals of this year's draft. If the Bears liked Herbert, they wouldn't have brought in Swift. Swift was #5 in total rushing yards last year.


Only CMC, D Henry, K Williams, and J Cook rushed for more yards than him last season. 4.6 YPC, played in 16 games. He did his job.
 
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The Bears played Caleb Williams the entire first half today, and 0 touches to Swift. Which at first was concerning. But then I realized Keenan Allen and DJ Moore each had only 1 target. So I think it was probably just the rookie starters that actually stayed in, and the vet starters just a few plays.
It's preseason.
Don't overthink it.
True but had all the starters played the entire first half, 0 Swift would have been really strange. Glad to see it was just Caleb and Odunze.
 
The Bears played Caleb Williams the entire first half today, and 0 touches to Swift. Which at first was concerning. But then I realized Keenan Allen and DJ Moore each had only 1 target. So I think it was probably just the rookie starters that actually stayed in, and the vet starters just a few plays.

I looked it up earlier. DeAndre Swift is being taken at ADP 72. Isiah Pacheco is being taken at ADP 22.


The difference in their PPG total last year? 2 points. I think he's one of the steals of this year's draft. If the Bears liked Herbert, they wouldn't have brought in Swift. Swift was #5 in total rushing yards last year.


Only CMC, D Henry, K Williams, and J Cook rushed for more yards than him last season. 4.6 YPC, played in 16 games. He did his job.
Those ADPs seem right to me. Swift didn't get to take the Eagles OL with him, in fact, Swift has been very fortunate in his career with OL play. This will be the worst OL he's ever had. I bet his YPC is a lot lower than 4.6 with the Bears, and he'll also have fewer leads to accumulate carries.

Pacheco was RB3 overall once McKinnon went down, and KC didn't replace him.

Personally, I have Pacheco at least 15 RBs higher than Swift. I think comparing last year's stats is comparing Swift's ceiling to Pacheco's floor.
 
How do you feel about Pacheco now that a pass catching RB Perine is now in the house?

Anyone out there think Swift is being underrated at his ADP willing to take a chance on him this season?
 
How do you feel about Pacheco now that a pass catching RB Perine is now in the house?

Anyone out there think Swift is being underrated at his ADP willing to take a chance on him this season?
I think he is really under rated this season. I think the only thing that stops him from a top 12 finish is injury. And he has had a few of those and he is a rb so it's quite possible it does derail him. But big things if he stays healthy is what I'm calling.
 
The Bears played Caleb Williams the entire first half today, and 0 touches to Swift. Which at first was concerning. But then I realized Keenan Allen and DJ Moore each had only 1 target. So I think it was probably just the rookie starters that actually stayed in, and the vet starters just a few plays.

I looked it up earlier. DeAndre Swift is being taken at ADP 72. Isiah Pacheco is being taken at ADP 22.


The difference in their PPG total last year? 2 points. I think he's one of the steals of this year's draft. If the Bears liked Herbert, they wouldn't have brought in Swift. Swift was #5 in total rushing yards last year.


Only CMC, D Henry, K Williams, and J Cook rushed for more yards than him last season. 4.6 YPC, played in 16 games. He did his job.
Those ADPs seem right to me. Swift didn't get to take the Eagles OL with him, in fact, Swift has been very fortunate in his career with OL play. This will be the worst OL he's ever had. I bet his YPC is a lot lower than 4.6 with the Bears, and he'll also have fewer leads to accumulate carries.

Pacheco was RB3 overall once McKinnon went down, and KC didn't replace him.

Personally, I have Pacheco at least 15 RBs higher than Swift. I think comparing last year's stats is comparing Swift's ceiling to Pacheco's floor.

Pacheco runs hard!
 
How do you feel about Pacheco now that a pass catching RB Perine is now in the house?

Anyone out there think Swift is being underrated at his ADP willing to take a chance on him this season?
I think he is really under rated this season. I think the only thing that stops him from a top 12 finish is injury. And he has had a few of those and he is a rb so it's quite possible it does derail him. But big things if he stays healthy is what I'm calling.

It is not just an injury, it is his lack of willingness to play when he is banged up a bit. He does not have grit, which is why the Lions dropped him for nothing. Same with Hockinson. Swift had an ideal situation last year and did have very solid year. This year is not as good of a situation.
 
How do you feel about Pacheco now that a pass catching RB Perine is now in the house?

Anyone out there think Swift is being underrated at his ADP willing to take a chance on him this season?
I am obligated to recuse myself from this question because I am president of the D'Andre Swift Fan Club.
If you are the prez I might the VP.

Yes he's worth his ADP, one of the most misunderstood players in the last 5 years. Take advantage.
 
How do you feel about Pacheco now that a pass catching RB Perine is now in the house?

Anyone out there think Swift is being underrated at his ADP willing to take a chance on him this season?
I think he is really under rated this season. I think the only thing that stops him from a top 12 finish is injury. And he has had a few of those and he is a rb so it's quite possible it does derail him. But big things if he stays healthy is what I'm calling.

It is not just an injury, it is his lack of willingness to play when he is banged up a bit. He does not have grit, which is why the Lions dropped him for nothing. Same with Hockinson. Swift had an ideal situation last year and did have very solid year. This year is not as good of a situation.
He really didn't have a solid year. After his hot start he averaged 57 yards rushing and 15 yards receiving per game averaging 4 yards per carry and 5.9 yards per reception. With six total TDs in 13 games.
 
How do you feel about Pacheco now that a pass catching RB Perine is now in the house?

Anyone out there think Swift is being underrated at his ADP willing to take a chance on him this season?
I think he is really under rated this season. I think the only thing that stops him from a top 12 finish is injury. And he has had a few of those and he is a rb so it's quite possible it does derail him. But big things if he stays healthy is what I'm calling.

It is not just an injury, it is his lack of willingness to play when he is banged up a bit. He does not have grit, which is why the Lions dropped him for nothing. Same with Hockinson. Swift had an ideal situation last year and did have very solid year. This year is not as good of a situation.
That's what we heard a lot in 2022 in Detroit, but it never made a lot of sense. Swift would suit up, but wouldn't get used much. The reason he wasn't used was that the coach didn't like him being soft? It seems circular. What is there to "play through" it if you don't give him opportunities? The only thing that would make it make sense is if Swift, in game, would complain or say "take me out, I can't do this" and I never heard such a thing specifically.
 
How do you feel about Pacheco now that a pass catching RB Perine is now in the house?

Anyone out there think Swift is being underrated at his ADP willing to take a chance on him this season?
I am obligated to recuse myself from this question because I am president of the D'Andre Swift Fan Club.
If you are the prez I might the VP.

Yes he's worth his ADP, one of the most misunderstood players in the last 5 years. Take advantage.
couldn’t agree more…is in for a nice year…Bears made him a priority in FA and he will get a lot of touches
 
25 with a 3 year commitment, in an offense that on the surface looks explosive and wants to do a lot of what Swift is really good at. I think in dynasty Swift is a guy that can jump to around rb10 with a couple weeks of decent usage to start the season.
 
25 with a 3 year commitment, in an offense that on the surface looks explosive and wants to do a lot of what Swift is really good at. I think in dynasty Swift is a guy that can jump to around rb10 with a couple weeks of decent usage to start the season.
Yeah the only thing is, his forte (unintentional Bears RB pun) is in the receiving game so I hate that they are loaded with big-time WRs.
 
25 with a 3 year commitment, in an offense that on the surface looks explosive and wants to do a lot of what Swift is really good at. I think in dynasty Swift is a guy that can jump to around rb10 with a couple weeks of decent usage to start the season.
Yeah the only thing is, his forte (unintentional Bears RB pun) is in the receiving game so I hate that they are loaded with big-time WRs.
For sure I got a little lower on him from when they signed him to after they added Allen and Odunze. Feel like they prioritized signing him to give Caleb some layups as well as some explosive play ability. That's not as heavily needed now of course, especially as it regards to Keenan offering an element of a safety blanket.

But I still think the Bears will play more to this strengths then the Eagles. It's not about touches, it's about the quality of the touches especially in the passing game.

Also not for nothing but have heard he's trimmed up a little for this role and have heard stuff like he looks like arguably the best player on the field during training camp.
 
Joel Gedeon
D'Andre Swift o11.5 Receiving Yards vs #Titans (-110 DraftKings)

Matt Eberflus had this to say about Swift in early in traning camp this season:

"D'Andre's looked really good during this offseason," the third-year coach said. "Obviously as you guys know he's really quick, he's a weapon out of the backfield, which is outstanding for our passing game and it's going to create some mismatches for us. He can do a lot of things from the backfield, we can split him out wide and run the full route tree, so he's exciting to watch."

The Bears have big things in mind for the playmaker back which is why they went so hard after him this off-season.

Before last season, Swift was absolutely lethal out of the backfield, tallying over 11.5 receiving yards in 21/24 regular season games with the Lions. It's clear there was some misuse last season by the Eagles, and Eberflus and the Bears would like to get that right this season. They see Swift as interchangeable in early downs, but he should be the main third down back for the Bears this year.

You worry about the possibility of Caleb Williams forcing the ball down field, but the check down is a rookie QB's best friend when needed. The Bears showcased a drive where they got Swift the ball out of the backfield on a screen in pre-season that busted for 44 yards. We don't need that much, but I truly expect some gimicky easy stuff like this to get Williams going early.

The Titans new DC Dennard Wilson brings ideals from BAL who ranked middle of the pack last season vs RB's when it comes to yardage allowed. However, this Titans defense has nowhere near the talent level those BAL teams had.

Worth a small wager on 25+ as well at +280 on DK.

Research: @propsdotcash
 
How would you value Swift this year in comparison to the somewhat unknown product in Jonathan Brooks?
 
How do you feel about Pacheco now that a pass catching RB Perine is now in the house?

Anyone out there think Swift is being underrated at his ADP willing to take a chance on him this season?
I am obligated to recuse myself from this question because I am president of the D'Andre Swift Fan Club.
I am unfortunately a paying member of this club as well.

Hope is still alive. He at times can well outperform ADP. This wins games although pretending I can predict them is the insanity part.

Chicago is stacked at WR with a rookie QB. D will rush hard and cover deep.

Kmet and Swift should out-perform - at least in our fan club he will
 
How do you feel about Pacheco now that a pass catching RB Perine is now in the house?

Anyone out there think Swift is being underrated at his ADP willing to take a chance on him this season?
I am obligated to recuse myself from this question because I am president of the D'Andre Swift Fan Club.
I am unfortunately a paying member of this club as well.

Hope is still alive. He at times can well outperform ADP. This wins games although pretending I can predict them is the insanity part.

Chicago is stacked at WR with a rookie QB. D will rush hard and cover deep.

Kmet and Swift should out-perform - at least in our fan club he will
we will see the Bears utilize his skillset and Williams will def dump off short passes to
him when under duress…career year inc-coming (if he can somehow finally stay healthy).
 
How would you value Swift this year in comparison to the somewhat unknown product in Jonathan Brooks?
Firstly the Panthers will still probably be horrible and even when Brooks returns from injury it could still linger. While I haven't really drunk the "Bears will be so great this year" kool aid yet..I do understand the optimism. If the question was "which of these two do I draft?" Swift in redraft defiantly. Brooks might be fine long term (dynasty)
 
How do you feel about Pacheco now that a pass catching RB Perine is now in the house?

Anyone out there think Swift is being underrated at his ADP willing to take a chance on him this season?
I am obligated to recuse myself from this question because I am president of the D'Andre Swift Fan Club.
I am unfortunately a paying member of this club as well.

Hope is still alive. He at times can well outperform ADP. This wins games although pretending I can predict them is the insanity part.

Chicago is stacked at WR with a rookie QB. D will rush hard and cover deep.

Kmet and Swift should out-perform - at least in our fan club he will
we will see the Bears utilize his skillset and Williams will def dump off short passes to
him when under duress…career year inc-coming (if he can somehow finally stay healthy).

Wasn't last year a career year? Swift is a player that when you use him too much you get diminishing returns. Any increase in his value from last year will come from TDs. I don't see his yardage taking a big jump.
 
How do you feel about Pacheco now that a pass catching RB Perine is now in the house?

Anyone out there think Swift is being underrated at his ADP willing to take a chance on him this season?
I am obligated to recuse myself from this question because I am president of the D'Andre Swift Fan Club.
I am unfortunately a paying member of this club as well.

Hope is still alive. He at times can well outperform ADP. This wins games although pretending I can predict them is the insanity part.

Chicago is stacked at WR with a rookie QB. D will rush hard and cover deep.

Kmet and Swift should out-perform - at least in our fan club he will
we will see the Bears utilize his skillset and Williams will def dump off short passes to
him when under duress…career year inc-coming (if he can somehow finally stay healthy).

Wasn't last year a career year? Swift is a player that when you use him too much you get diminishing returns. Any increase in his value from last year will come from TDs. I don't see his yardage taking a big jump.
Career year in rushing yardage, had better fantasy production, at least on a per game basis in Detroit.

Agree the law of diminishing returns is a factor, don't think his skillset was utilized the correct way with the Eagles. Maybe the best thing for them, not for him or better yet not for his fantasy owners.

So to answer your question the increase in his value would come from being used more in the passing game, which everything indicates is the plan.
 
How would you value Swift this year in comparison to the somewhat unknown product in Jonathan Brooks?
I'll take Swift as we know he is the starting RB week 1 and I can start him in my line-up. Do I like Brooks? For sure, especially in dynasty but in redraft leagues unless I get him cheap I'm not sure I will own any shares.

Two big concerns with Brooks and it isn't talent: 1 - we don't truly know when he will be on the starting roster. Then we don't know what type of time share it will be and how slowly they will get him back into game shape. Most RBs coming off this injury are eased in.
2 - he is a rookie. With this alone (no injury) he is behind Hubbard who had some good games last year. Even when Brooks is healthy it might be a time share.

So for these reasons I would gladly draft Swift and just ride with him as my RB2 or flex start.
 

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