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RB Dameon Pierce, HOU (1 Viewer)

I haven't heard anyone say the Texans are ready yet. I think they will be better than last year though.

Yeah, if Mills plays poorly, they will re-evaluate the position. But so will the Jets, the Bears and possibly even the Jags (although Lawrence has a longer rope being the #1 overall pick).
For sure, I was just trying to say playing Mills on a team that is missing so many key parts isn't trying to lose. It's just the only real option they have at the moment. It is a rebuild, this is what you do. Give young players chances to prove themselves.
 
I'm coming around on him but I think the hype will always be outpacing me.
In my 3rd and final NFC draft last night he went in the 5th.

Don’t take it as gospel, because people reach ridiculously on any “buzz” player (Pittman 2.10, etc) but he’s gone from 10th to 8th to 5th across my 3 drafts in that format.

6th-7th is likely where he’ll go in my home league tomorrow. As a RB3 you could do worse.

Then again, it’s IDP, which could push him to the 7-8 round range.

Personally, I like other players in those 5-6 rounds a bit more.
 
The hardest thing to wrap my head around is how few touches he got overall at Florida. He never came close to 1,000 yds rushing or was not given that opportunity.
His hands are much better than folks think, I mentioned he had 36 catches for over 360 yds and 4 TDs, every 9 catches he scores and his yds per catch his Senior Year was over 11. I came up with the totals by combining his Junior and Senior Year but apparently he just needs more touches.

Can he hold up an entire year? His compact and solid frame says he can but he's never been a high volume RB, at least not in college.
Actually view his low volume usage in college as a positive. Less wear and tear... and in theory, a longer NFL shelf life. There are programs who have a stable of RB's and can afford to rotate and keep them fresh (I will defer to Florida fans on their level of talent at RB).

Pierce passes the eye test, has questionable competition for snaps and has played well enough in the preseason to warrant an upgrade in everyone's rankings... without question. And while I have no desire to temper everyone's enthusiasm here, please just remember the standard caveat that this IS the preseason. By all means move him up in your rookie drafts... but before you spend that 2nd or 3rd round pick in a redraft you later regret when you remind yourself of that fact midseason.
ADP-112 except if you Draft with a lot of FBGs, then maybe you need to draft a lot higher. That's about the 9th-10th round. but his hype will push him up this weekend. I think you might need to try a 7th/8th if you really want him and believe he could be the RotY at RB

I don't think burning an 8th to beat the rush is a bad idea here but I'm assuming many other RB names are off the board.

I saw someone mention Penny as an example of who you are passing up for Pierce and that's an interesting debate but by the end of Sept/early Oct when Kenny Walker is fully recovered from sports hernia surgery, it's going to be talked up endlessly that the Rookie should get snaps and touches.. Pierce simply won't be facing that kind of a situation because Pierce IS the ROOKIE that is pushing all the vets to the bench.
Yeah, I’d take him over Penny for sure.

6th round seems too high. Unfortunately I draft with 11 people who all watched that game last night. Some fool is gonna reach for him in the 6th. Gut feeling.
 
Northern Alaska is beautiful when the sun is out.

Count me as someone who doesn't think Houston will be horrible. There, I said it. I'd need to look at their schedule, but I think I'd bet the over on the +4.5 line they have for o/u on wins this year.

My personal opinion is they are sticking with Mills to purposefully lose as many games as possible for their rebuild but maybe he’s the next late round gem, you never know.

He was the 3rd pick in the 3rd round, so hardly a "late rounder". He also played much better than Lawrence, Wilson and Fields despite being on just a crappy of team. Probably played better than Jones too if you compare their situations as far as the teams they played for.

So say that they are sticking with Mills to purposefully lose games is way off base. They think they potentially have their QB of the future cheap and if it turns out to not be the case, they can draft a QB in 2023 because their record will suck if Mills plays poorly.
Anything after the 1st round is late for a QB these days.

Every move the Texans have made the past two years is to build for the future and win as few games as possible right now. Bringing in Tyrod last year, jettisoning starters for future picks and cutting high cost guys, massively suspect coaching moves, bringing in over the hill and used up veterans to fill holes. Drafting long-term players that won’t contribute much year one because of injuries.

Sure their rolling the dice on Mills to see if he maybe becomes the next Russell Wilson but I highly doubt they are betting on it. I have no illusions that they aren’t doing everything the Lions and the Seahawks and many others in past have done by intentionally sucking to rebuild. Maybe they don’t go as far as offering to pay their Coach to throw games like Ross allegedly did but they have little interest in winning this year.
 
You're predicting what round in 2023 Pierce is drafted? 10th? I think he has a chance to soar or far surpass his draft slot right now.
Where did I say that? I said he could be a 1st round pick next year if he absolutely blows up this year and Texans look great. He could also be a 10th round next year if he stumbles this year.
 
I'm coming around on him but I think the hype will always be outpacing me.
In my 3rd and final NFC draft last night he went in the 5th.

Don’t take it as gospel, because people reach ridiculously on any “buzz” player (Pittman 2.10, etc) but he’s gone from 10th to 8th to 5th across my 3 drafts in that format.

6th-7th is likely where he’ll go in my home league tomorrow. As a RB3 you could do worse.

Then again, it’s IDP, which could push him to the 7-8 round range.

Personally, I like other players in those 5-6 rounds a bit more.

Got him in 12th 2 weeks ago.
Got him in 10th last weekend.

Hoping to get him in the 9th tomorrow because I have a keeper in 8th and I don't think I want to spend a 7th on him. I much prefer Chase Edmonds there.
 
I'm coming around on him but I think the hype will always be outpacing me.
In my 3rd and final NFC draft last night he went in the 5th.

Don’t take it as gospel, because people reach ridiculously on any “buzz” player (Pittman 2.10, etc) but he’s gone from 10th to 8th to 5th across my 3 drafts in that format.

6th-7th is likely where he’ll go in my home league tomorrow. As a RB3 you could do worse.

Then again, it’s IDP, which could push him to the 7-8 round range.

Personally, I like other players in those 5-6 rounds a bit more.

Got him in 12th 2 weeks ago.
Got him in 10th last weekend.

Hoping to get him in the 9th tomorrow because I have a keeper in 8th and I don't think I want to spend a 7th on him. I much prefer Chase Edmonds there.
That’s likely your choice. If someone doesn’t reach for him in the 6th
 
Northern Alaska is beautiful when the sun is out.

Count me as someone who doesn't think Houston will be horrible. There, I said it. I'd need to look at their schedule, but I think I'd bet the over on the +4.5 line they have for o/u on wins this year.

My personal opinion is they are sticking with Mills to purposefully lose as many games as possible for their rebuild but maybe he’s the next late round gem, you never know.

He was the 3rd pick in the 3rd round, so hardly a "late rounder". He also played much better than Lawrence, Wilson and Fields despite being on just a crappy of team. Probably played better than Jones too if you compare their situations as far as the teams they played for.

So say that they are sticking with Mills to purposefully lose games is way off base. They think they potentially have their QB of the future cheap and if it turns out to not be the case, they can draft a QB in 2023 because their record will suck if Mills plays poorly.
Anything after the 1st round is late for a QB these days.

Every move the Texans have made the past two years is to build for the future and win as few games as possible right now. Bringing in Tyrod last year, jettisoning starters for future picks and cutting high cost guys, massively suspect coaching moves, bringing in over the hill and used up veterans to fill holes. Drafting long-term players that won’t contribute much year one because of injuries.

Sure their rolling the dice on Mills to see if he maybe becomes the next Russell Wilson but I highly doubt they are betting on it. I have no illusions that they aren’t doing everything the Lions and the Seahawks and many others in past have done by intentionally sucking to rebuild. Maybe they don’t go as far as offering to pay their Coach to throw games like Ross allegedly did but they have little interest in winning this year.
they arguably have the biggest deficit to climb out of thanks to BOB, so I can’t say I fault the strategy. That guy absolutely destroyed them for a good ten years.
 
He’s gone for 14$ and 16$ from a 200$ Budget, both 12 team SF leagues this past weekend. Not cheap by any means.

He also went @ 6.12 last night in my FFPC draft. I passed him up @ 6.11 for Renfrew. Still not sure how I feel about this today. 🤞
 
He went 4.13 in my 14 team redraft yesterday. The hype is real.
Maybe that team Drafted all WRs and the decent RBs were all gone?
Ekeler, T Hill and M Pitts were his first three picks. RBs we’re probably drying up a little as this is a 14 team league.
Ah, 14 man league. Guess I shoulda realized that when I saw 4.13 but didn't clue in. Guess that's a little bit better as it's pick #55. Still early IMO... hopefully he got another RB at #58?
 
He went 4.13 in my 14 team redraft yesterday. The hype is real.
Maybe that team Drafted all WRs and the decent RBs were all gone?
Ekeler, T Hill and M Pitts were his first three picks. RBs we’re probably drying up a little as this is a 14 team league.
Ah, 14 man league. Guess I shoulda realized that when I saw 4.13 but didn't clue in. Guess that's a little bit better as it's pick #55. Still early IMO... hopefully he got another RB at #58?
marquise Brown at that pick. Pierce will be his RB2. As some one with AJ Dillon as RB2 I can’t say with certainty I’m better off - I did take Dillon 2 picks before Pierce went.
 
I got him at 6.12 in a 12 team non PPR keeper as my RB 3 behind Taylor and Kamara. I can afford to let him sit on my bench for a while and show what he has.
 
Got him at 7.04. A couple guys gave a groan after I grabbed him.
I got him at 6.12 in a 12 team non PPR keeper as my RB 3 behind Taylor and Kamara. I can afford to let him sit on my bench for a while and show what he has.
I think that is nuts. Pierce should be considered a low-end RB2 in my opinion. Why can't he be at least David Montgomery?

Nice steal for the 2 of you though. (y)
 
I have #1 overall tonight late in my biggest league........ and after hearing a tiny bit of chatter from a couple guys in our league, I think I'd have to take him at the 2/3 turn to have a chance at getting him.

I'm as high on the situation as most, but I don't know if I want to pull the trigger that early.


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I have #1 overall tonight late in my biggest league........ and after hearing a tiny bit of chatter from a couple guys in our league, I think I'd have to take him at the 2/3 turn to have a chance at getting him.

I'm as high on the situation as most, but I don't know if I want to pull the trigger that early.


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That's a bit high. I think there's better options still available at that point. He should be there at at least the 4/5 turn. As the draft plays out, guys might forget him as they see shinier names keep falling to them.
 
Got him at 6.09 as RB2 by committee. Asked around after the draft and he would have gone by my next pick. Interesting to see how he goes
 
The hype for Pierce has definitely steamrolled, with the main issue being that we haven't seen him play outside of a few preseason games - and whether the Texans offense will improve (as mentioned upthread, I think it does).

At the end of the day, how many other RBs look to have the potential to be three down backs and may not leave the field much? Classic high risk, high reward pick - draft accordingly.
 
The hype for Pierce has definitely steamrolled, with the main issue being that we haven't seen him play outside of a few preseason games - and whether the Texans offense will improve (as mentioned upthread, I think it does).

At the end of the day, how many other RBs look to have the potential to be three down backs and may not leave the field much? Classic high risk, high reward pick - draft accordingly.
Is he a three down back or will Burkhead see passing down work?
 
The hype for Pierce has definitely steamrolled, with the main issue being that we haven't seen him play outside of a few preseason games - and whether the Texans offense will improve (as mentioned upthread, I think it does).

At the end of the day, how many other RBs look to have the potential to be three down backs and may not leave the field much? Classic high risk, high reward pick - draft accordingly.
Is he a three down back or will Burkhead see passing down work?
I think Burkhead may start in that role to protect Mills, but if Pierce is all that and can prove himself in pass pro, I can see Lovie keeping him on the field. We are talking Rex Burkhead here.
 
I bought into the hype, and got him in my auction league as the 21st-highest valued RB. Really hoped to get him for half the price I did, but alas.
 
The hype for Pierce has definitely steamrolled, with the main issue being that we haven't seen him play outside of a few preseason games - and whether the Texans offense will improve (as mentioned upthread, I think it does).

At the end of the day, how many other RBs look to have the potential to be three down backs and may not leave the field much? Classic high risk, high reward pick - draft accordingly.
Is he a three down back or will Burkhead see passing down work?
I think Burkhead may start in that role to protect Mills, but if Pierce is all that and can prove himself in pass pro, I can see Lovie keeping him on the field. We are talking Rex Burkhead here.

At the Senior Bowl, Pierce literally made a lot of noise with how much contact he generated against blitzing linebackers in pass-protection.

In 27 pass blocking plays at Florida in 2021, he allowed zero pressures.

That was preseason and in his draft profile.

He's already demonstrated in the preseason he can pick up blitzers
 
If the latest August camp report is at all accurate, he could be in for a huge workload with an offense designed around him.
 
I have #1 overall tonight late in my biggest league........ and after hearing a tiny bit of chatter from a couple guys in our league, I think I'd have to take him at the 2/3 turn to have a chance at getting him.

I'm as high on the situation as most, but I don't know if I want to pull the trigger that early.


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Absolutely don't take him at 2.12, C'mon man. He should be there at 4.12 but if he's not then that's fine
 
I think that is nuts. Pierce should be considered a low-end RB2 in my opinion. Why can't he be at least David Montgomery?

Nice steal for the 2 of you though. (y)

From reading through this updated thread I still think he is being drafted too low. :boxing:
FWIW, FBG has him at RB31 in their updated rankings. Right around Sanders, Singletary, Penny, etc.

I would think he would be much higher than this, @Joe Bryant how come you guys are so low on him even with updated rankings?
 
I would think he would be much higher than this, @Joe Bryant how come you guys are so low on him even with updated rankings?

That feels about right. But that's the beauty of fantasy football, you put him where you like. We have recent comments on the "notes" icon next to his name here. https://www.footballguys.com/rankin...=ppr&excludedstaffers=&leagueid=Select+League

Where do you rank him among RBs?
Much higher. Not as high as everyone in here talking about him in the 3rd and 4th rounds of course. I'm not sure how I could justify taking Gordon, Singletary, Hunt, Harris, Etc. over him like you guys have in your rankings. I just wasn't sure if it was a mistake or why he wasn't boosted higher, but those notes definitely do help as they explain their rankings of him. Based on him going easily top 8 rounds now, he's pretty much on the do not draft list for fbg staffers.
 
I have #1 overall tonight late in my biggest league........ and after hearing a tiny bit of chatter from a couple guys in our league, I think I'd have to take him at the 2/3 turn to have a chance at getting him.

I'm as high on the situation as most, but I don't know if I want to pull the trigger that early.


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Absolutely don't take him at 2.12, C'mon man. He should be there at 4.12 but if he's not then that's fine
People are acting like this guy is some league winner - he may end up being very productive but the higher the price the less return for your buck you're getting. He's not a bargain if you're paying RB2 value and he returns RB2 production. I mean there is a chance that he's not all that useful in fantasy football as well, if things change once the real bullets fly.
 
In the 2 home leagues I did over the weekend he went last pick of the 5th round and then 2nd to last pick of the 6th. I don't remember the draft board for the league where he went 5th round but in the league he went 6th round, the following were the 2 RBs taken right before him: Rhamondre Stevenson, Chase Edmonds. The 2 RBs taken after him were Rashaad Penny and Elijah Mitchell though there was a lot of space between all those picks as it was a very WR/QB/TE heavy part of the draft.
 
I have #1 overall tonight late in my biggest league........ and after hearing a tiny bit of chatter from a couple guys in our league, I think I'd have to take him at the 2/3 turn to have a chance at getting him.

I'm as high on the situation as most, but I don't know if I want to pull the trigger that early.


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Absolutely don't take him at 2.12, C'mon man. He should be there at 4.12 but if he's not then that's fine
People are acting like this guy is some league winner - he may end up being very productive but the higher the price the less return for your buck you're getting. He's not a bargain if you're paying RB2 value and he returns RB2 production. I mean there is a chance that he's not all that useful in fantasy football as well, if things change once the real bullets fly.
Ya I agree. I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle of where he's going now/talked about now vs where FBG has him ranked. LIkely exactly in the middle.
It's easy to brush off those who are overhyping and taking him so high, but it just seems a bit strange to me that FBG hasn't really moved him up and is treating him like a late round rb still.
 

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