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RB Darrell Henderson, LAR (1 Viewer)
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Judge Smails
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As a Michel owner I don't mind Henderson banging against the TB D
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
As a Henderson owner I don’t mind Michel going out and running into the TB brick wall so Henderson doesn’t have to.
Now if JaWill’s “injury” turns out to be nothing the timing will be perfect for me. Henderson can come out with fresh legs in week 4. that’s the dream.
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Scooby1974
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I don't like a healthy Henderson against Tampa, let alone a sore one. I think it's time for someone else at the Flex this week. I think Tampa is going to score and the Rams running game will do some disappearing.
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Hot Sauce Guy
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Agree 100%
I smell a shootout. Sucks AB likely won’t be in the game, but TB has depth at WR & Evans/Godwin are their 2 best anyway. And they still have a Gronk (to paraphrase the Avengers).
Stafford should easily be a top 5 QB this week, IMO.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Any Henderson owner is now officially concerned about Michel
midnight_green81
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Judge Smails
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We’ll see.
Rams won, but is 20 carries for 67 yards, 3 catches for 12 yards, and no TDs something worth raising the level of concern? If Henderson is healthy, I feel good about him. Having a guy like Michel on the team to absorb punishment can be good for Henderson's season long outlook. My concern is just Henderson getting healthy.
Judge Smails
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See how many other RBs have that stat line vs the Bucs. He’d tear up lesser run D’s. Healthy (big if) Henderson gets his share. I just don’t think he keeps Michel off the field. Veteran presence. No mistakes.
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Big time throw everything on a rush to grill the guy.
But he has been taught at home defense gives your team the best chance.
-jb-
Footballguy
I think this could end up a 60/40 split with Henderson getting more usage in the passing game. I'm sure the Rams would love to limit how many touches Henderson gets given his health history and the fact he is beat up already. Henderson looked really good before he went down so I think he could be efficient with his touches. Mishel will look better as the season goes on and he feels more comfortable in this offense.Judge Smails said:
Scooby1974
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barackdhouse
Footballguy
Even if he splits with Sony, which I expect, I need him to be active this week.
Stat Correction
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Really need this guy to get and stay healthy. I think last week showed us that Sony is definitely serviceable (even against a tough run D), but lacks the upside of Henderson....and the next few weeks look pretty sweet from a scheduling perspective:
ARI
@SEA
@NYG
DET
@HOU
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@SEA
@NYG
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@HOU
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wilked
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SeniorVBDStudent
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Last two rotoworld entries....
Darrell Henderson (ribs) participated in Wednesday's practice.
Speaking Wednesday, coach Sean McVay said, "I think the expectation and anticipation is that he’ll play, but not 100 percent sure." The Rams conducted a walk-through Wednesday, and Henderson was part of it. Even if he returns this week against the Cardinals, Sony Michel has likely earned a chunk of the playing time now that he's up to speed and Henderson is battling a rib cartilage issue.
Coach Sean McVay said Monday that he's "hopeful" Darrell Henderson (ribs) will play Week 4 against the Cardinals.
McVay added that Henderson is "making good progress" in his recovery. Henderson sounds like he's dealing with bruised ribs rather than a fracture. It's more of a pain tolerance issue. In Henderson's absence this past Sunday against the Bucs, Sony Michel started and played 74% of the snaps, turning in a 20-67-0 rushing line and 3-12-0 receiving mark on four targets. Henderson may be sharing the backfield more going forward once he returns.
Darrell Henderson (ribs) participated in Wednesday's practice.
Speaking Wednesday, coach Sean McVay said, "I think the expectation and anticipation is that he’ll play, but not 100 percent sure." The Rams conducted a walk-through Wednesday, and Henderson was part of it. Even if he returns this week against the Cardinals, Sony Michel has likely earned a chunk of the playing time now that he's up to speed and Henderson is battling a rib cartilage issue.
Coach Sean McVay said Monday that he's "hopeful" Darrell Henderson (ribs) will play Week 4 against the Cardinals.
McVay added that Henderson is "making good progress" in his recovery. Henderson sounds like he's dealing with bruised ribs rather than a fracture. It's more of a pain tolerance issue. In Henderson's absence this past Sunday against the Bucs, Sony Michel started and played 74% of the snaps, turning in a 20-67-0 rushing line and 3-12-0 receiving mark on four targets. Henderson may be sharing the backfield more going forward once he returns.
greenmountaingoat
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The bellcow usages for McVay's backs has always seemed more circumstantial to me.. at least in the past couple of years.
I think a 65/35 split seems like a likely outcome. Michel's left knee will become useless if he gets too much work IMO.
Edit- this week may not be the case, might be 50/50 or whatever, depending on how Henderson is doing. My opinion relates to "full health and integrated into the offense" split.
I think a 65/35 split seems like a likely outcome. Michel's left knee will become useless if he gets too much work IMO.
Edit- this week may not be the case, might be 50/50 or whatever, depending on how Henderson is doing. My opinion relates to "full health and integrated into the offense" split.
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JohnnyU
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barackdhouse
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I did. He replied back and said I should start Peyton Barber or Mark Ingram instead.wilked said:
Hot Sauce Guy
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If he plays, I’m betting it will look like games 1-2.
What I understand is it’s about pain tolerance. Henderson will likely wear a flak jacket if he’s a go.
My fear isn’t that Henderson will get limited touches, but that he’ll take a big 1st quarter hit & tap out, leaving those who started him high & dry.
My next option is JaWill vs the Ravens, and that’s….less appealing matchup-wise.
Tough call this week for us Henderson owners. I’m not sure what % of snaps Sony will get - I’m more concerned with an early Henderson exit.
He’ll probably be limited again today. Don’t see why they’d bang him around when they’re trying to get him healthy. Maybe we’ll get lucky and he’ll turn in a full practice or say he’s feeling better.
What I understand is it’s about pain tolerance. Henderson will likely wear a flak jacket if he’s a go.
My fear isn’t that Henderson will get limited touches, but that he’ll take a big 1st quarter hit & tap out, leaving those who started him high & dry.
My next option is JaWill vs the Ravens, and that’s….less appealing matchup-wise.
Tough call this week for us Henderson owners. I’m not sure what % of snaps Sony will get - I’m more concerned with an early Henderson exit.
He’ll probably be limited again today. Don’t see why they’d bang him around when they’re trying to get him healthy. Maybe we’ll get lucky and he’ll turn in a full practice or say he’s feeling better.
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RealReactions
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If my memory serves me right I believe Akers had the same injury last year and was out 2 weeks. It was earlier in the year so I know he wasn't the full time starter yet but still he took 2 weeks to come back. Right now it has only been 1 for Henderson so if he does come back I wouldn't be shocked if he only has 10 or so total touches.
As Hot Sauce stated as well, It could just take 1 big hit to the ribs to knock him out again. I believe once he is fully 100% it'll be around a 70-30 split. Henderson is more athletic but Michel can grind out those 3&2's up the middle to preserve Henderson.
I just wouldn't start Henderson this week if you don't have too. It is possible he gets more touches than I think but again its a big risk.
As Hot Sauce stated as well, It could just take 1 big hit to the ribs to knock him out again. I believe once he is fully 100% it'll be around a 70-30 split. Henderson is more athletic but Michel can grind out those 3&2's up the middle to preserve Henderson.
I just wouldn't start Henderson this week if you don't have too. It is possible he gets more touches than I think but again its a big risk.
barackdhouse
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My thing is that in a number of spots I have the choice between Henderson or one of Sermon/Mitchell. I expect Mitchell to play and start but that it will be a true 50/50 split. So I think my preference is Henderson if he is active.
My completely non-scientific, based on nothing, gut take is that I'd rather have a guy wearing a flak jacket with a rib injury than a guy with a shoulder injury. Purely in terms of injury management, not saying anything about their respective roles, shares or matchups this week.
Or I might throw in someone like Drake over all of them but that sucks too.
My completely non-scientific, based on nothing, gut take is that I'd rather have a guy wearing a flak jacket with a rib injury than a guy with a shoulder injury. Purely in terms of injury management, not saying anything about their respective roles, shares or matchups this week.
Or I might throw in someone like Drake over all of them but that sucks too.
barackdhouse
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Yeah that is sort of my understanding too. That there isn't much of an increased risk of further injury to his ribs but rather it is a matter of what he can take pain wise. I think the shoulder situations are different because they just don't take much to make it worse.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Agreed - that's likely why Higgins was held out on a short week, despite finishing the game last week. Probably wanted to rest him up to make sure he's 100% whereas the ribs are just how much Henderson can gut it out.
Looking forward to today's practice report, though I'm expecting another "limited". I'm hoping this is one of those things where the red cross disappears on Sunday before the game.
Hot Sauce Guy
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I agree - plus Shanny is being pretty cagey about MItchell's chances of starting.
If he can't go & Sermon draws the start, are you really that confident starting Sermon after what we've seen so far?
I've been less than impressed, though he's had a couple of decent carries.
barackdhouse
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Yes, if Mitchell sits I won't hesitate to start Sermon. But it isn't so much that I am super confident in him or the situation, it is that my decision making process would be simpler. I just don't have an endless supply of RB options out there. In some leagues I would not start him even with Mitchell out. In a couple I probably have to start Sermon even if Mitchell *does* play. So it is case by case, but if if Mitchell is out then it becomes academic in most instances. That doesn't mean I am confident in Sermon. If Mitchell sits I would expect something a little better than last game for Sermon. 15/70 and maybe 2/15 and maybe we get lucky with a TD. That isn't terrible nor pie in the sky. I think last week is probably a decent example of a floor game for him if he is the starter. But I think 10 FPs is a reasonable expectation with TD upside on a pretty decent offense.
Aw crap just realized I'm in the Henderson thread here. So yeah if Mitchell sits and Henderson plays then I will have an interesting choice between DH and TS. Might be a coin flip - I'd have to reexamine the matchups a bit first.
Hot Sauce Guy
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Rotoworld reporting McVay “expects” Henderson to play.
All of these quotes have this little edge of “he’d better play through a little rib pain” to me. Maybe I’m reading into them too much, but that’s the impression I get.
it might just be because McVay is so short about it - he doesn’t say, “he’s healing up well & he’s looked good in practice, so I expect him to play”
no, instead it just reads like the disappointed father who “expects” his kid does his homework. lol
All of these quotes have this little edge of “he’d better play through a little rib pain” to me. Maybe I’m reading into them too much, but that’s the impression I get.
it might just be because McVay is so short about it - he doesn’t say, “he’s healing up well & he’s looked good in practice, so I expect him to play”
no, instead it just reads like the disappointed father who “expects” his kid does his homework. lol
Judge Smails
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Hot Sauce Guy
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As a Henderson owner, I hope I’m not.
I just checked again & Rotoworld is now suggesting something similar, saying, “”managers should hold Henderson on their benches for the time being and wait for Los Angeles’ backfield to reveal itself before deciding his fate in lineups in week 5”.
I think they meant week 4, but otherwise they seem to be reading into McVay the same way I am.
hopefully it’s just McVay being shady.
ETA: unless they’re recommending benching him for week 4, which upon re-reading, is what I think they’re doing.
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Hot Sauce Guy
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Sony had like two touches through the first two weeks. He averaged about 3.1 yards a carry on his 20 carries.
if Henderson is healthy, I don’t expect Sony to touch the ball much.
it’s possible, but I guess I’m not seeing how he will be a thorn in Henderson‘s side all year. The only ambiguity right now is how healthy Henderson is, IMO
foxco
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I don't think they want Henderson to be anything close to a bellow. Just my opinion from someone way on the outside, but I feel like they want to limit Henderson's touches (and he's already been injured twice in the last couple of months). I think Michel will get more than a couple of looks on a weekly basis.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I originally thought it would be somewhere around 80/20 or 70/30
provided Henderson is healthy, I believe that will still be the breakdown.
BigJim®
Footballguy
Boy do I hope you are right. What gnaws at me is this injury may cause a coach to be more cautious on workload. 60% of Henderson is better for the team than 0%.
SkippaDaFlippa
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Practiced in full today. Starting with confidence.
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