ourmanflint
Footballguy
If you have a back where the holes are a mile wide....you have a good back.
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RB Devonta Freeman, BAL (1 Viewer)
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cr8f
Footballguy
He moved threw a lot of smaller holes than that, but much of the Cowboys starting 7 were hurt.
uuuh, he had nearly 200 all purpose yards and 3 TD's. I'm not sure any back in the league will exceed that performance on a regular basis.
So yeah, best game of his career.
cr8f
Footballguy
That's true too. I'm a Coleman and Freeman owner hoping one of them will be the man. Upcoming games look very good for him.
habsfan
Footballguy
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
That would be the best game of about 98.8% of RB careers.
Hell, that game proved your previous statements invalid.
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Freeman won me a game this week, and I don't own Coleman anywhere. Just being objective about it, which I know is really difficult for most.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
To get 35 touches and 195 yards and 3 tds in his first NFL start, and also his first game with 12 or more carries.
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habsfan
Footballguy
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Uhhhh.....he runs 20+ yards untouched, then gets 3-4 extra yards when the defender does a poor job wrapping him up.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Crawl back into your post week 2 hole
Rick James
Footballguy
Objectively, I think Coleman probably houses one of those 15 yard runs but whatever. Freeman played great and IMO this is a 50-50 split. Good thing is there isn't a 3rd rb to take carries.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
That seems fair
Rick James
Footballguy
There should be enough carries for both to be useful fantasy guys. We don't have that third RB ala Sproles or Woodhead to take snaps from freeman & Coleman. Both might get 15 touches per game.
Rick James
Footballguy
Cut
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
That's funny because I thought Freeman would have housed 2 of the 10 yard carries Coleman had the week before.
Rick James
Footballguy
Ok man.
lod01
Footballguy
Coleman has no power. He goes down on 1st contact. He needs those gaping holes to succeed. Freeman doesn't.
17 of Colemans 27 runs vs OSU were for 1 yard or less in his big game vs them. That doesn't work in the NFL.
"There are two kinds of back who are successful in this league - runners who break tackles and runners who can create for themselves. He's not either one." -- NFC running back coach NFL Comparison Darren McFadden
Killtops
Footballguy
Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder in fantasy. What I saw is a diminutive running back seek contact and shed a (larger) tackler with authority, picking up about 6 extra yards (initial contact is at the 43, he goes out at around the 38/37 yard line).Alex P Keaton said:
I'm not saying that Freeman is going to be a lock RB1, or even a lock to be the 1A. My initial point was that I've never been blown away by his talent or his demeanour on the field. In this game I saw the most talent and -by a mile- the most confidence I have ever seen out of him. Confidence is something that is essential to high level performance, but it can't be coached. You either have it or don't. For the first time in his career, I think he really has it.
These things bode well for the future. Gio Bernard-like RB2 numbers are not out of the question, even with Coleman back and taking a 50% share of the carries.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Im excited to see what the future holds for Freeman this year.
ATL is a pretty good offense with a great schedule. By no means do I think Freeman has relegated Coleman to the bench with 1 performance, but if he continues looking strong I dont see how Coleman gets more than say, every 3rd series. Freeman definitely had holes but I thought he showed real good vision, plenty of nice cutbacks, ran with great power for his size, was decisive, and when the time came sought out defenders and broke tackles.
ATL is a pretty good offense with a great schedule. By no means do I think Freeman has relegated Coleman to the bench with 1 performance, but if he continues looking strong I dont see how Coleman gets more than say, every 3rd series. Freeman definitely had holes but I thought he showed real good vision, plenty of nice cutbacks, ran with great power for his size, was decisive, and when the time came sought out defenders and broke tackles.
lod01
Footballguy
I see it flew right over your head. I'll elaborate. You run 17 times for 1 yard or less out of 27 carries, you will find the bench in the NFL.humpback said:
ourmanflint
Footballguy
Good thing he wasn't playing in the NFL. He was playing for punk ### Indiana which had ZERO other than Coleman and he still laid 228 and 3 on them.I see it flew right over your head. I'll elaborate. You run 17 times for 1 yard or less out of 27 carries, you will find the bench in the NFL.humpback said:
lod01
Footballguy
He ran thru giant holes untouched vs OSU. When touched, he went down like a baby. The Indiana QB even had a run of 55+ yards in that game.Good thing he wasn't playing in the NFL. He was playing for punk ### Indiana which had ZERO other than Coleman and he still laid 228 and 3 on them.I see it flew right over your head. I'll elaborate. You run 17 times for 1 yard or less out of 27 carries, you will find the bench in the NFL.humpback said:
cr8f
Footballguy
cr8f
Footballguy
Not from what I saw and he ran through some small creases last week avoiding and even breaking tackles.He ran thru giant holes untouched vs OSU. When touched, he went down like a baby. The Indiana QB even had a run of 55+ yards in that game.Good thing he wasn't playing in the NFL. He was playing for punk ### Indiana which had ZERO other than Coleman and he still laid 228 and 3 on them.I see it flew right over your head. I'll elaborate. You run 17 times for 1 yard or less out of 27 carries, you will find the bench in the NFL.humpback said:
Calm down and give it little time to see if your guess is right..
17seconds
root of all aliai
That was the book on him coming out of college, what he's shown so far in the NFL, and how he's being used. I don't know why you would think otherwise. Anything is possible if he exceeds expectations but that's wishful thinking.
ourmanflint
Footballguy
You couldn't have described it worse if you hadn't seen the game at all. Not sure what Diamont's scramble had to do Coleman.He ran thru giant holes untouched vs OSU. When touched, he went down like a baby. The Indiana QB even had a run of 55+ yards in that game.Good thing he wasn't playing in the NFL. He was playing for punk ### Indiana which had ZERO other than Coleman and he still laid 228 and 3 on them.I see it flew right over your head. I'll elaborate. You run 17 times for 1 yard or less out of 27 carries, you will find the bench in the NFL.humpback said:
Yeah, your absurd post flew right over my head, that must be it. The guy was 6th in the Heisman voting playing on a garbage team, and in the particular game you're talking about he had more rushing yards than they had given up in 15+ years, and the longest TD run they'd given up in over 50 years. But go ahead, blame him instead of the offensive line for those short carries and try to make it sound like he stinks.I see it flew right over your head. I'll elaborate. You run 17 times for 1 yard or less out of 27 carries, you will find the bench in the NFL.humpback said:
Atlanta obviously doesn't agree with you, since they drafted him and made him the starter right away.
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ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Except they didn't make him the starter right away and Freeman is above him on the depth chart as of today. Boom.Yeah, your absurd post flew right over my head, that must be it. The guy was 6th in the Heisman voting playing on a garbage team, and in the particular game you're talking about he had more rushing yards than they had given up in 15+ years, and the longest TD run they'd given up in over 50 years. But go ahead, blame him instead of the offensive line for those short carries and try to make it sound like he stinks.Atlanta obviously doesn't agree with you, since they drafted him and made him the starter right away.I see it flew right over your head. I'll elaborate. You run 17 times for 1 yard or less out of 27 carries, you will find the bench in the NFL.humpback said:
TowelSurfer04
Footballguy
What are your guys thoughts on selling high on Devonta Freeman?
He is a bit slow and has average quickness, but his situation is great. He gets a lot of catches and a good amount of receiving yards, and will see a lot of goal line looks in the Falcons offense that is clicking so far. Problem is, anyone who's watched their games knows that Tevin Coleman is the far superior back. Even with Sunday's game, Freeman's place as a starter remains pretty volatile.
It's highly probable that you won't be getting the likes of Bell, AP, Lacy, and Charles for Freeman and a nice other option, but one guy that I think you can swing Freeman and a nice other option for is Matt Forte.
Forte is a lot faster of a runner and will get a larger volume of receptions/receiving yards than Freeman, but his touchdown upside is trash in the Bears offense, which could see a lot of 3 and outs. However, his place as a starter is unquestioned, and he finished as an elite RB1 last year through sheer volume over touchdowns. Freeman is currently my flex, I love how my team would look with Forte at flex. But it's also possibly Freeman hangs on to the starting job the rest of the way and posts elite numbers. But Forte is the much safer bet.
Another option would be Arian Foster, but owning Foster is a headache with all his injuries, and i highly doubt he's coming back strong this year after having surgery on his problematic groin. No way I'm dealing for Foster.
Not many other elite backs worth trading up for after that. Which brings me to wide receivers:
Due to a huge shortage of reliable starting RBs, I know plenty of teams that went WR heavy that would jump at the chance to get Freeman.
One of those teams has Al Morris and McFadden at RB, I think he'd be willing to part with his flex Emmanuel Sanders for Freeman and maybe a nice other option.
Another trade I've been considering making to an RB needy team is Freeman for Alshon Jeffery straight up. The owner might be frustrated with Jeffery's hamstring issues, which could potentially limit him all year, and Cutler is out for a few weeks, Jeffery is a risky buy low option. But if he is healthy, watch out, the Bears are gonna be playing from behind a LOT this year, and there's no one else to throw to. I foresee a ton of garbage points coming for Jeffery.
So should I keep Freeman? Or would Forte or Sanders or Jeffery make for a much more dangerous looking team? Who else would you target?
He is a bit slow and has average quickness, but his situation is great. He gets a lot of catches and a good amount of receiving yards, and will see a lot of goal line looks in the Falcons offense that is clicking so far. Problem is, anyone who's watched their games knows that Tevin Coleman is the far superior back. Even with Sunday's game, Freeman's place as a starter remains pretty volatile.
It's highly probable that you won't be getting the likes of Bell, AP, Lacy, and Charles for Freeman and a nice other option, but one guy that I think you can swing Freeman and a nice other option for is Matt Forte.
Forte is a lot faster of a runner and will get a larger volume of receptions/receiving yards than Freeman, but his touchdown upside is trash in the Bears offense, which could see a lot of 3 and outs. However, his place as a starter is unquestioned, and he finished as an elite RB1 last year through sheer volume over touchdowns. Freeman is currently my flex, I love how my team would look with Forte at flex. But it's also possibly Freeman hangs on to the starting job the rest of the way and posts elite numbers. But Forte is the much safer bet.
Another option would be Arian Foster, but owning Foster is a headache with all his injuries, and i highly doubt he's coming back strong this year after having surgery on his problematic groin. No way I'm dealing for Foster.
Not many other elite backs worth trading up for after that. Which brings me to wide receivers:
Due to a huge shortage of reliable starting RBs, I know plenty of teams that went WR heavy that would jump at the chance to get Freeman.
One of those teams has Al Morris and McFadden at RB, I think he'd be willing to part with his flex Emmanuel Sanders for Freeman and maybe a nice other option.
Another trade I've been considering making to an RB needy team is Freeman for Alshon Jeffery straight up. The owner might be frustrated with Jeffery's hamstring issues, which could potentially limit him all year, and Cutler is out for a few weeks, Jeffery is a risky buy low option. But if he is healthy, watch out, the Bears are gonna be playing from behind a LOT this year, and there's no one else to throw to. I foresee a ton of garbage points coming for Jeffery.
So should I keep Freeman? Or would Forte or Sanders or Jeffery make for a much more dangerous looking team? Who else would you target?
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
whats to LOL about? Devonta ran really well against Dallas and is the better pass catcher. and for the record I own both in a dynasty
LordHusker
Hot sauce addict
Coleman owners be hatin'. It is what it is. No RB is a guarantee all season long: injuries, competiton, legal woes. Enjoy Freeman now and as long as it lasts -- which might be all season.
Milkman
Footballguy
He sucks B. I don't own either but Atlanta is terrible at playing their best players. So no surprise.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Milkman
Footballguy
Everytime 5 times Antone Smith touched the ball last year he went 50+ yards for a touchdown. So what did Atlanta do? They ran hot garbage like Freeman out there in front of Smith all year. It was a terrible decision.
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ImTheScientist
Footballguy
How does last year hold any relevance to this year and the new coaching staff? Terrible argument if thats all you have.
Milkman
Footballguy
Well Antone Smith is a FA and they just ran hot garbage Freeman out there again didn't they
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MattFancy
Footballguy
Top 10 seems steep IMO. Even before the Coleman injury, FBGs consistently had Freeman ahead of Coleman. Seems like they've really gone all in now.
That's interesting. He was rb30 going forward in last week's to 200... Seems like an aggressive move up the rankings based on one game
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