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RB Devonta Freeman, BAL (2 Viewers)
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ImTheScientist
Footballguy
shadyridr
Footballguy
agreed. Gonna try Landry lol
lod01
Footballguy
I wouldn't even consider either of those guys. Sanders is finished because Manning is finished.
I will also say that if Mike Smith was still coach of this team, Freeman would not have the success he is having. They would still be lining up at the 50 yard line in their goal line formation on 2nd and 10 hoping to get 2 yards to make it 3rd and 8.
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Because your super-charger gives you a bunch of horse power is not a reason not to upgrade your exhaust.
Freeman is not the entire reason the run game has worked so well the past 2. Consider how Freeman and Coleman performed comparably the first 2 games. With Coleman on the sidelines the recently, Freeman busted it. Great o-line play combined with poor defense. We didn't even see the rookie play in those circumstances. I think the coaches are more smarter enough to figure that out.
Ted Mullins
Footballguy
Be careful, Skins run D is actually pretty good. I'd still think of him as top 10 this week though considering the combination of touches and likely red zone opportunities, along with how good he's been as well.
Squintz82
Footballguy
Skins run D is severely overrated. Look at who they've played.
Dolphins (31st)
Rams (23rd, ranked lower without Gurley's game)
Giants (24th)
Eagles (30th)
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Skins run defense has been good for a while; one of the lone bright spots on the team. Given the crapfest last season they still managed to be a top-10 run defense unit, which is kind of amazing given how many plays the opponents were able to run.
Freeman is a must-avoid for me in DFS this week, but if you have him in leagues you gotta play him.
Ted Mullins
Footballguy
Maybe, but they were top half of the league last year in run D too and seem to be pretty improved on defense.
I'm not saying to bench Freeman or anything, IMO he's still a top ten RB play this week. With the workload, targets and goalline carries he probably is against anyone in the league for the time being. I was just cautioning anyone that thinks of the Skins as a joke that their run D is probably their strong point.
I'm not saying to bench Freeman or anything, IMO he's still a top ten RB play this week. With the workload, targets and goalline carries he probably is against anyone in the league for the time being. I was just cautioning anyone that thinks of the Skins as a joke that their run D is probably their strong point.
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Wonderllama
Footballguy
I feel like if I put this guy in all my Fanduel lineups this week, I'm gonna lose money. Which would be typical for me.
PART of the reason these teams have struggled so much is because they've had to play a good washington run d. I agree they may be overrated at the #2 in the NFL as they are ranked currently though. But they are still top 10 even if you do give them a big downgrade based on matchups.
I actually dropped him and he was floating around on FCFS waivers for a day and then I picked him back up.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
well, the only ones I won the last two weeks have had him in there.
I thought Id be chasing on Larry Fitz as well, after the 3 td game, but he has done just fine.
Ride em while they are hot I say!
lod01
Footballguy
No idea how good this run D is. Miami and Philly need asterisks next to them. Miami because they didn't even try. They are padding every teams run D stats. Philly because their OL totally blows. Starting Freeman regardless because he can catch it out of the backfield.
Parmcat
Canada: Beer, Bacon and Beavers
I really don't understand all the talk about him losing massive carries to Coleman when he returns. Why mess with success? Freeman is dominating right now. Why not run with it?
Until things change, I would use Coleman to spell Freeman for 8-10 carries, and run Freeman as he has the last 2 weeks.
Yes, he is a sell high guy. But if you drafted him at his ADP or later, you got the steal. Isn't that what a great draft is suppose to do?
I am holding him, and hope to keep rolling with him.
Until things change, I would use Coleman to spell Freeman for 8-10 carries, and run Freeman as he has the last 2 weeks.
Yes, he is a sell high guy. But if you drafted him at his ADP or later, you got the steal. Isn't that what a great draft is suppose to do?
I am holding him, and hope to keep rolling with him.
Rick James
Footballguy
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Im not sure of your league rules....but that guy got an RB1, TE1, and WR with upside for a WR1. I like the deal he got.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
It was a good deal for both of us. His team sucks nards; he was starting McFadden at RB, so he was desperate. Freeman is a huge upgrade for him even splitting carries. From my end, it's not a TE required league so Eifert was a WR3-4 rather than a TE1. I hadn't started him once this year. Parker, I had to drop by Sunday anyway in order to activate Martavis Bryant, so he was a pot sweetener. I have Le'Veon (which is why I wanted DeAngelo as a handcuff) as well as Joseph Randle and Mark Ingram, so I'm pretty solid at RB even without Freeman (no flex.) Now I can roll out Beckham, AJ Green, and either Mike Evans, Martavis Bryant, or John Brown at WR with Bell and either Randle or Ingram at RB.
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Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Next years CJ Anderson IMO
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
That's my thinking as well. Could be wrong, but that's why I made the trade. Sell high and hope it doesn't blow up in my face.
rustycolts
Footballguy
I just traded Mariotta for Freeman and a 2nd next year.
Rick James
Footballguy
guy in my league traded Devonta and Hopkins for Julio and Maclin.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
lod01
Footballguy
I don't get this strategy either. I'd rather ride the guy and if he flounders, no big deal. If you trade him and he becomes the next Priest Holmes, you end up kicking yourself in the ###.
montana_grizzly_bears
Footballguy
I was trying to package him and Gore for L.Bell. Had to withdraw the trade for this week at least as I have Ivory on a bye and not much else at RB. Owner was thinking about it though.
Back to Back 30 Point games since 2000:
Brian Westbrook 2008
Clinton Portis 2003
DeAngelo Williams 2008
Deuce McAllister 2003
LaDainian Tomlinson 2003, 2006
Larry Johnson 2005
Le'Veon Bell 2014
Marshall Faulk* 2000, 2001
Mike Anderson 2000
Priest Holmes 2003. 2004
Ricky Williams 2000, 2002
Steven Jackson 2006
Since year 2000, RBs with Multiple 30+ points in a Season:
Adrian Peterson 2007, 2012
Ahman Green 2003
Arian Foster 2010, 2011
Brian Westbrook 2007, 2008
Chris Johnson 2009
Clinton Portis 2002, 2003
Darren McFadden 2010
DeAngelo Williams 2008
Deuce McAllister 2002, 2003
Devonta Freeman 2015
Eddie George 2000
Edgerrin James 2000
Fred Taylor 2000
Jamal Lewis 2003
LaDainian Tomlinson 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007
Larry Johnson 2005, 2006
Le'Veon Bell 2014
Marshall Faulk* 2000, 2001
Matt Forte 2010
Maurice Jones-Drew 2009
Michael Turner 2008
Mike Anderson 2000
Peyton Hillis 2010
Priest Holmes 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004
Ricky Williams 2000, 2002
Rudi Johnson 2003
Shaun Alexander 2001, 2004, 2005
Steven Jackson 2006, 2008
Tiki Barber 2005
Warrick Dunn 2000
Brian Westbrook 2008
Clinton Portis 2003
DeAngelo Williams 2008
Deuce McAllister 2003
LaDainian Tomlinson 2003, 2006
Larry Johnson 2005
Le'Veon Bell 2014
Marshall Faulk* 2000, 2001
Mike Anderson 2000
Priest Holmes 2003. 2004
Ricky Williams 2000, 2002
Steven Jackson 2006
Since year 2000, RBs with Multiple 30+ points in a Season:
Adrian Peterson 2007, 2012
Ahman Green 2003
Arian Foster 2010, 2011
Brian Westbrook 2007, 2008
Chris Johnson 2009
Clinton Portis 2002, 2003
Darren McFadden 2010
DeAngelo Williams 2008
Deuce McAllister 2002, 2003
Devonta Freeman 2015
Eddie George 2000
Edgerrin James 2000
Fred Taylor 2000
Jamal Lewis 2003
LaDainian Tomlinson 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007
Larry Johnson 2005, 2006
Le'Veon Bell 2014
Marshall Faulk* 2000, 2001
Matt Forte 2010
Maurice Jones-Drew 2009
Michael Turner 2008
Mike Anderson 2000
Peyton Hillis 2010
Priest Holmes 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004
Ricky Williams 2000, 2002
Rudi Johnson 2003
Shaun Alexander 2001, 2004, 2005
Steven Jackson 2006, 2008
Tiki Barber 2005
Warrick Dunn 2000
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And if he goes back to his old self while the guy you could have traded for him does well, you end up kicking yourself in the ###.
montana_grizzly_bears
Footballguy
My guess work from here on out
Freeman- 17-20 rushes 80-100 yards, 4-5 recepts, 20-25 yards, 0.7 td's per game
Coleman- 6-7 rushes 30-45 yards, 1 recept 2-3 yards 0.2 td's
Freeman- 17-20 rushes 80-100 yards, 4-5 recepts, 20-25 yards, 0.7 td's per game
Coleman- 6-7 rushes 30-45 yards, 1 recept 2-3 yards 0.2 td's
Where did I say he will never be more? Just giving the other side of the coin- of course there is potential downside in not selling him high.
His old self was JAG, including in the two games to start this season. I happen to think the O-line deserves a ton of credit for his recent FF performance, and it's entirely possible that he regresses substantially when Coleman returns and/or the O-line regresses. I own him in redraft so I hope not, but time will tell.
squistion
Footballguy
Tell me about it. No response from listing him in my trade bait and I even offered him to the Coleman owner for a 2016 2nd and his response was "I am not interested in RB handcuffs."
The fear is that the coaches watched both Freeman and Coleman for several weeks. The coaches decided Coleman was the better RB and got the starting job week 1. So what do the coaches think now? That's the key.
I definitely think he eats into Freeman's carries and in the next few weeks maybe even to 50-50.
I definitely think he eats into Freeman's carries and in the next few weeks maybe even to 50-50.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Thats NOT the case. Freeman and Coleman were both injured for the majority of the preseason. Coleman came back the last week and did well, Freeman didn't come back. They then gave Coleman the nod week 1. Freeman was just getting healthy and back into shape week 2 when Coleman went out.
Had both been healthy all preseason there is no telling what would have happened. Freeman has now taken the job.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
No they didnt. Coleman only got the top of thew depth chart at the very last moment (Sept 8th) because Freeman couldn't practice/play in preseason. That only lasted a couple weeks.
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shadyridr
Footballguy
oof
Freeman and Coleman both returned to practice on Monday, August 17th, a full month before the 1st game. Freeman was fully healthy and in shape for that game. Coleman outplaying him had nothing to do with Freeman working himself back into shape or still being injured. Because of Freeman's success the last two weeks, they likely aren't going to rush Coleman back before the ribs are healed.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
On Aug 22 the coach said he was close to returning. On the 17th they merely rejoined practice. He was standing, not participating.
http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nfl/9423/devonta-freeman
