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RB Jaydon Blue, DAL (1 Viewer)
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
The games I saw he looked better as a receiver than runner.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
If a team drafts him with a specific role in mind, namely as a receiving weapon, then he could be a decent late round sleeper. I don't think he's ever going to be much as a runner. Another RB to compare him to is LeQuint Allen. I think Allen is a better pure runner than Blue is and I believe he led the nation as a receiving RB. I probably prefer Allen over Blue, but I can definitely see a role in the NFL and in fantasy for Blue if he's used properly.
I'm a big fan, I'd say, at least before he runs(when I expect others to join the party) I'm higher on him vs consensus then probably any player in this draft for fantasy. He has some issues but the best of him looks incredible, Gibbs like burst and great pass catching skills.
Faust
MVP
The 33rd Team
Cowboys RB Jaydon Blue’s top speed in college was 22.3 MPH — and it looks like he got there effortlessly
KaVontae Turpin and Raheem Mostert are the the only NFL ballcarriers to hit 22.3 MPH or faster since 2020, per @NextGenStats
: @RAanalytics
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
I don’t watch alot of college ball, but from what I’ve read this is not true?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
great receiviing rb, terrible running rb. Probably will never be fantasy relevant.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
The bolded is one thing he does well.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Borderline lazy?
In a recent Locked on Cowboys podcast appearance, former Dallas Cowboys coach Glenn Smith said that coaches with the Cowboys have expressed that rookie fifth-round running back Jaydon Blue is "borderline lazy" and that the team isn't happy with his work habits. Blue is expected to have a big role on offense and is very explosive, but it's not a great sign for him heading into training camp. The 21-year-old is also under 200 pounds and comes with ball-security issues from his college days. The Cowboys like Blue's speed and explosiveness, but he didn't work at all with the first-team offense in spring workouts, suggesting Dallas could open the year with a backfield consisting mostly of Javonte Williams and Miles Sanders. The Cowboys will be hoping that Blue can mature quickly, but he's also no lock to make the roster out of training camp.--Keith Hernandez
In a recent Locked on Cowboys podcast appearance, former Dallas Cowboys coach Glenn Smith said that coaches with the Cowboys have expressed that rookie fifth-round running back Jaydon Blue is "borderline lazy" and that the team isn't happy with his work habits. Blue is expected to have a big role on offense and is very explosive, but it's not a great sign for him heading into training camp. The 21-year-old is also under 200 pounds and comes with ball-security issues from his college days. The Cowboys like Blue's speed and explosiveness, but he didn't work at all with the first-team offense in spring workouts, suggesting Dallas could open the year with a backfield consisting mostly of Javonte Williams and Miles Sanders. The Cowboys will be hoping that Blue can mature quickly, but he's also no lock to make the roster out of training camp.--Keith Hernandez
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That’s… not how you want to hear a rookie described.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Yeah, I can take he’s buried on the depth chart, which means nothing this time of year, or that he needs to work on something, but not that he is lazy. I have no shares for the reason I think he’s a pass catching only option. No skills as a runner. But you’re right, not a good look.
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You keep saying that but his rushing metrics are not good, they are outstanding.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
He had only 80 attempts for 431 yards his first two years and 134 for 730, his best was his last. I wouldn’t call that outstanding for college. When I watched him he didn’t look great as a runner and struggled between the tackles. His his vision seemed to be lacking in that area.
That's a volume situation, I'm talking about metrics.
Like being the #1 RB in the entire class in percentage of rushing yards and YPC after contact and 4th in the class in YPC when hit at or behind the LOS.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I’m not sure how well he translates to very much volume in the NFL if he struggles between the tackles in college. Maybe he improves. I think he will be used mostly as a receiving back. Still possibly an asset in ppr fantasy if he can get a lot of volume doing just that. If he doesn’t, I don’t see him being started in fantasy. Those that drafted him thinking workhorse (60% or better) may be disappointed, but I could be wrong of course.
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darksideofoz
Footballguy
Same.
Coach speak isn't just blowing sunshine up a player's keister, it can also be used to try to motivate players.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Never seen such a damaging report given to a rookie that had a golden chance like this before
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I don’t know if Dallas will fall apart, but if someone jokingly flips Jerry Jones’ face it would definitely fall apart given all that cosmetic facial surgery.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I’m getting bad vibes from Dallas
daveR
Footballguy
Yeah. Agreed, but if it's true (IF), then he won't last long. He may have a few good weeks, several maybe, but I've rarely seen those guys have a long & productive career. But, like you say, it's ONE report and not exactly damning at that.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
The former coach saying publicly what the current Cowboys coach said, should have remained private. Perhaps all parties involved should keep their trap shut on stuff like that. Teams don’t usually embarrass a player like that publicly.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Maybe it was leaked on purpose to motivate him.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Most teams want to keep that stuff in house. You can call a player lazy in house with the same effect. I think it crosses the line when done this way. But that’s just me.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I agree, but when have the Cowboys done thing the right way?
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Ha ha ha
Crazy to let this hit the airways. Hilarious though.
Crazy to let this hit the airways. Hilarious though.
joey
Footballguy
He was just so amazingly horrible in Carolina that’s it’s hard to believe he has juicy left at all.
But I have Javonte Williams in 2 leagues and I’m holding out hope.
ETA: I just looked and Sanders finished as RB52 (not ppg) both of the last 2 years in CAR. At least Javonte finished all the way up at RB30 last year
rockaction
Footballguy
I let Sanders go in dynasty for nothing to hold Sione Vaki. Probably unwise but he is awful as of now. Hubbard said something about the Panthers’ RB room this year and how it was better with the new guys, and the Eagles had no love for Sanders either. He strikes me as a knucklehead.
Cowboys likely don’t have their starting back even signed yet. Somebody else with some juice is likely to start. Check cuts. TCU’s Kendre Miller in New Orleans if he gets cut. Watch Khalil Herbert in Indy and see where he winds up. He and Dallas always come up (just like Dallas and Sanders) together.
What is Dallas doing with that room?
Cowboys likely don’t have their starting back even signed yet. Somebody else with some juice is likely to start. Check cuts. TCU’s Kendre Miller in New Orleans if he gets cut. Watch Khalil Herbert in Indy and see where he winds up. He and Dallas always come up (just like Dallas and Sanders) together.
What is Dallas doing with that room?
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Jerry is trying to make the room bad enough to justify bringing Zeke back!
Blick
Footballguy
He’s no Tatem Bell.
The “ex-Cowboys coach” saying he was told this has not worked for the team in 24 years, and his entire career as a coach spans 2 seasons as an offensive assistant.
I’ve never heard of him. He got more press today then he did as a coach.
Could be true but this is not a guy who seems very connected
I’ve never heard of him. He got more press today then he did as a coach.
Could be true but this is not a guy who seems very connected
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Sounds more like Cowboys coaches running their mouth when they shouldn’t have.
I’ve said this before but where a lot of us look at Dallas and can’t believe they don’t prioritize RB more, internally they look at stuff like the production they got out of Dowdle, who they did not even want back, and believe their method works. That the position is fungible and they’d rather commit resources elsewhere.
Football Jones
Footballguy
Just came here to say this. Is it dirty pool? Well, if Blue isn't working hard, that's on him.
Maybe they've tried other motivational tactics and haven't gotten results. Getting called out publicly might work. Blue can deny it, but at the same time, start acting like a pro. I don't have a problem with it.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I doubt they tried other tactics. Plus he is a kid and a rookie, he probably needs to mature a little, but most of these kids have to learn be professionals.
Football Jones
Footballguy
We don't know what they've tried. I seriously doubt if this was done on purpose, it was their first attempt to motivate him. If they felt the need to call Blue out, it's not a matter of needing to mature.
He doesn't have a chance in hell to make it unless he applies himself. Blue isn't nearly talented enough to skate.
zamboni
Footballguy
Blue seems like the only one in the RB room who could potentially emerge as a viable fantasy contributor. Sanders and Javonte just seem like sunk costs holding down the fort.
For these reasons, I am very interested in Dak this year at QB - he will probably be throwing the ball a ton.
For these reasons, I am very interested in Dak this year at QB - he will probably be throwing the ball a ton.
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rockaction
Footballguy
I get what they think, meno. My question is basically a rhetorical question in place of saying something akin to “they’re ****in’ stupid and it is going to cost them.”
I knew Dowdle would be just fine. He’s good and was very good in college and I expected him, barring injury, to have the kind of year he had. I think he will get even better, but Chuba is formidable competition.
I do not think that Blue, Sanders, Williams, Mafah, and Leupke are a pro RB running room and I think it will cost them a crucial game or two.
I mean, I agree with people who devalue the position to some extent. Big contracts are stupid and the money best spent elsewhere. The highest running back WAR can’t be more than 1.5 tops. But there are guys kicking around that are just flat better than Javonte and Sanders. Trotting this room out there is like almost fully punting on TE in fantasy football. (Had to work fantasy in there).
Another thing is Dak and health. No guarantee at all he makes it through the year healthy, and if Joe Milton is your backup you’re going to need a running game. Can’t throw 45-50 times a game, even with Dak.
Their team is constructed poorly and Jerry Jones has become a pretty bad owner and overseer of that club.
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smbkrypt24
Footballguy
I would prefer underpaying the room rather than overpaying for it. I think they could have done better than Sanders this offseason with Harris (before the eye injury), A Jones, and Dobbins. It seems those contracts were all reasonable.
rockaction
Footballguy
Williams and Sanders combine for a total much less than either Jones or Harris by at least a million when compared and significantly more for Jones.
Sanders and Williams are guaranteed about 4.2-4.4 million dollars combined.
Jones got 8 million to sign alone plus salary.
Harris got like 5.25 guaranteed.
So they could have maybe signed Harris alone or Dobbins (2.7 million guaranteed plus reportedly .7 million per-game bonuses), but not as any combo nor all together.
They’re spending about 7.5 million dollars total on that room (1.3+3+1.1+1.2+.9). That’s less than Jones’s signing bonus.
Pathetic.
eta* For Dallas, that combined total is give or take .5 million or so. Harris and Dobbins are pretty exact. Jones is, like, in a different stratosphere than these guys. He signed two years for twenty million. I don’t like that signing.
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