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RB Jaylen Wright, MIA (2 Viewers)
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I’m hopeful after drafting him 2.11 (SF) in early June. I think he’ll pair well with DA eventually.I'm in love
Chaka
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markrc99
Footballguy
Watched Wright vs whoever they played, had some run, very small sample size. I'm a low center cult member. The only thing I like better than a RB with a low center of gravity are the ones who are disproportionately low. This player's height to weight ratio, not as difficult for defenders to square up. Light & quick feet, but there's some chop, some gathering going on with change of direction. Which can prove problematic when trying to string moves together.
I didn't count, eight or so touches, but the ball gets mishandled to two occasions. Wright's gait, looks more that of a WR, upright, didn't really get behind his pads. However, I think his landing spot is gold! He's like a bigger, stronger & faster version of Raheem Mostert. There's Mike McDaniel's propensity for deception, if memory serves Achane led the league with 5.2yds BEFORE contact! A gawd-awful figure. Very interesting player.
I didn't count, eight or so touches, but the ball gets mishandled to two occasions. Wright's gait, looks more that of a WR, upright, didn't really get behind his pads. However, I think his landing spot is gold! He's like a bigger, stronger & faster version of Raheem Mostert. There's Mike McDaniel's propensity for deception, if memory serves Achane led the league with 5.2yds BEFORE contact! A gawd-awful figure. Very interesting player.
finfansteve
Footballguy
Feeling in my gut that he could be the most valuable rb from this class when we look back at it in three years or so. Because it’s not really a good rb class I’m not sure how good that’ll be overall but that feeling has been building over the last month or so
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
-Didn't even suit up for the game
That should be a big indicator of what Miami thinks of him
-Achane looked great catching the football, just bringing him up because he looks explosive
I think Raheem will see less and less touches as the younger guys force their way towards more and more touches.
In redraft leagues I think Wright pairs perfectly with either Miami RB, if you draft high on Achane you should get Wright, same with Raheem in the 8th which is nice value
Wright doesn't go until the 12th usually or later but that's likely gonna change
Held out due to unspecified injury, not consideredto be serious...is the speculation.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Just picked him up at 1.12 last night (rookie draft) in my main, standard keeper league. Traded up from 2.4 to get him.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
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Guy bounces off tackles, wish he weren't even playing tonight
@Anarchy99 has suggested just taking this guy late and passing on Achance and Mostert...it's not a bad idea but I still like Achance-Wright or Mostert-Wright better so you can enjoy the starting RBs as long as they are healthy. It's possible both Raheem and Achane make it most of the season...stop laughing in the back row!
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Wow. 5 carries for 19 yds and 2 catches for 6 yds. Beast mode.
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Guy bounces off tackles, wish he weren't even playing tonight
@Anarchy99 has suggested just taking this guy late and passing on Achance and Mostert...it's not a bad idea but I still like Achance-Wright or Mostert-Wright better so you can enjoy the starting RBs as long as they are healthy. It's possible both Raheem and Achane make it most of the season...stop laughing in the back row!
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
7/36, 4/41Wow. 5 carries for 19 yds and 2 catches for 6 yds. Beast mode.
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Guy bounces off tackles, wish he weren't even playing tonight
@Anarchy99 has suggested just taking this guy late and passing on Achance and Mostert...it's not a bad idea but I still like Achance-Wright or Mostert-Wright better so you can enjoy the starting RBs as long as they are healthy. It's possible both Raheem and Achane make it most of the season...stop laughing in the back row!
77 yds, 11 touches, 4 receptions
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He's good but no Achane in the open field making people miss. Achane is a rare breed, few compare. Wright broke a few tackles, but there were a couple of plays when I thought Achane would've done more.
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Guy bounces off tackles, wish he weren't even playing tonight
@Anarchy99 has suggested just taking this guy late and passing on Achance and Mostert...it's not a bad idea but I still like Achance-Wright or Mostert-Wright better so you can enjoy the starting RBs as long as they are healthy. It's possible both Raheem and Achane make it most of the season...stop laughing in the back row!
Wright is playing tonight because he's 3rd string to start the season. He might not even be active game 1, given that Jeff Wilson plays ST. I thought Wright might return KOs, but Malik and Berrios have that job. Malik looked good tonight.
... Wright is a good receiver. Achane is a little better IMO.
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BIRDGANG52
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My honest opinion is that he lit up the combine. But if he lit up the combine, why isn't there more hype? His tape is okay. It's not bad tape, it's actually pretty good. But if they're splitting carries 3 ways, someone has to get hurt before this guy even gets a "chance".
Achene got a "chance" last year and some people are poo, pooing on his 7.8 YPC. I mean, for ****s sake, you have to be doing something very special to be averaging 7.8 YPC on 103 carries. I've never seen anything like that in my life. Like we split hair between 4.0 YPC and 4.3 PYC. Every time Achene got the ball for 103 times, the most LIKELY OUTCOME is he got close to 8 yards. Stop being silly. In an an accumulation sport, why isn't that the guy you want?
If you were the Dolphins HC would you be excited to give a player who averaged 7.8 YPC more carries next year? It's the goofiest thing ever. Unless you want to throw out the Broncos game and pretend he won't see other tin can defenses. 7.8 YPC means you're clowning on people. And it's probably larger the scheme, but when scheme meets talent things you can't explain start to happen.
Achene got a "chance" last year and some people are poo, pooing on his 7.8 YPC. I mean, for ****s sake, you have to be doing something very special to be averaging 7.8 YPC on 103 carries. I've never seen anything like that in my life. Like we split hair between 4.0 YPC and 4.3 PYC. Every time Achene got the ball for 103 times, the most LIKELY OUTCOME is he got close to 8 yards. Stop being silly. In an an accumulation sport, why isn't that the guy you want?
If you were the Dolphins HC would you be excited to give a player who averaged 7.8 YPC more carries next year? It's the goofiest thing ever. Unless you want to throw out the Broncos game and pretend he won't see other tin can defenses. 7.8 YPC means you're clowning on people. And it's probably larger the scheme, but when scheme meets talent things you can't explain start to happen.
Todem
Footballguy
Wright is a chain mover. Achane is a game breaker.
doeseatplace
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
Achane definitely has more speed and burst but Wright’s 4.38 at 210 is elite and makes him a good complement to Achane.
Winning IS Everything
Footballguy
Got him in my 10 team, 10 player keeper last night at pick 2.1. I am in and giddy about it, and can wait to see it shake out as he will be my RB5/6.
eighsse2
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One of the best sounds in the world.
markrc99
Footballguy
Not sure what you mean by chain mover. I have read that Wright isn't adverse to mixing it up & come thru contact. While I've read that banging up inside isn't a strength, Miami doesn't do much of that anyway. His most recent preseason tape is broken down below. For me, it's a screen play at the 5:00min mark that may illustrate his vision, which has been depicted as avg.
Wright does have to make an adjustment on the ball & looks to get wide. But that & his stride seems to carry him a step too many. Note the honking lane back up inside. Now, it's preseason, all bets are off. Hopefully, pitches that hang out over the middle of the plate, he drives into the seats.
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I want to take this opp to one more time put a spotlight on a guy I think will factor into the mix.x.com
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Miami likes to rotate their RBs, with Achane missing so much time his rookie season, Miami was forced to lean on Mostert perhaps more than they intended.
-Miami is going to use all 3 of them at different points int he football game. Wright and Achane
All 3 Miami RBs plus Wilson will be used throughout the season. Wilson actually went from almost 200/850 in '22 down to just 40 carries last year and a whopping 188 on the ground, he's very expandable at this point, wish they could keep brooks in the mix, he's twice the size of most of these other RBs, just fun to watch him smash thru the line.
Wright is an absolute must draft on all best ball rosters, it's almost like they're printing free money in these double digit rounds this year.
Tua as an example, QB15 in FF? I'll take the OVER!
And I must have Wright on at least a few of my redraft rosters, willing to poach him a round or two earlier than his ADP.
Miami RB theme is Any Down but not Every Down
Todem
Footballguy
Chain mover is a guy who is reliable to move the chains down the field. 4-5 yards a pop, can break some longer ones, a good north and south RB.Not sure what you mean by chain mover. I have read that Wright isn't adverse to mixing it up & come thru contact. While I've read that banging up inside isn't a strength, Miami doesn't do much of that anyway. His most recent preseason tape is broken down below. For me, it's a screen play at the 5:00min mark that may illustrate his vision, which has been depicted as avg.
Wright does have to make an adjustment on the ball & looks to get wide. But that & his stride seems to carry him a step too many. Note the honking lane back up inside. Now, it's preseason, all bets are off. Hopefully, pitches that hang out over the middle of the plate, he drives into the seats.
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Future workhorse potential.
I really like him. I thought he was a terrific pick for the Dolphins.
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When the 210 lb guy with a 4.38 40, the second longest broad jump of any back in Combine history, with the 44th all-time relative athletic scorecard among running backs; is considered the plodder / chain mover.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
If you click on @Faust link to Brian Baldinger, those "X" clips he posts breaking down film, feels so raw and real when he's speaking.It’s
I love the way he highlights the 2 foot jump cut where Wright "Jumps 2 Holes"
-People are posting things like Wright is already at his best, below average vision, it's possible that Coach MM will make him shine in ways we've not seen thus far
And he hasn't played an official NFL down yet.
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Todem
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He can definitely break some nice runs but he is built like a workhorse where as Achane is a track star….Achane on the field has that explosion/gear that is a rare gift.
Combines are straight line.
I prefer to watch actual game film and watch how they run in the game vs in shorts in a straight line.
I am not saying combines are misleading….but they don’t tell you what kind of “football” player they really are.
Wright is a very good RB and Achane is a very good game breaking back with great hands to boot.
I am giddy as a Dolphins fan to watch these two in action. Mostert is no spring chicken so in the future this will be the two headed dragon for the Dolphins.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Agreed and as much as Miami fans have great respect and admiration for Raheem Mostert, myself included of course, I also know that at 32 years of age, he is abnormal to be holding down the fort as the starting RB, he even acknowledges that he is enjoying this late career surge. I joke but if he were to have another 1,000 yds rush and double digit TDs as Miami wins a home playoff game, I'd almost put him in the ring of honor.
Mostert is the best RB the Dolphins have seen since Ricky Williams. Miami had Reggie Bush for a couple seasons and he was good but mostly empty calories vs the hard yards and big TDs Mostert produced last year for the Dolphins.
Pretty sure Mostert missed at least 2 full games and parts of others, they don't abuse him This is an RBBC but one where everyone contributes and produces, this is not an RBBC where because of lack of talent, speed, etc...you get a mess. This feels different where each guy understands their roles.
Any Down but not Every Down, that's the Mike McDaniel way thus far.
One day in the future, if Coach MM is still in charge, I think Miami will eventually find a CMC for this offense or an Alpha type RB
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-One thing MoP applauds McDaniel on is his ability to find exceptionally skilled RBs in the Draft that match up to his Playbook.
I think Mike McDaniel is fantastic at getting his toys/speedy skill guys into open space or open areas of the field.
And I'll say this for Tua and Coach MM, maybe he isn't the strongest arm QB or have the skill set of others but he understands the ball needs to come out FAST! Mostly due to subpar OL
McDaniel knowing this tries to give him the fastest skill guys possible so he can quick release and they can turn it into big gains.
At least this team understands who they are and makes no apologies for their approach.
Circling back on Tua, yeah he has challenges vs better defenses like many QBs in the NFL but this is really Year 3 for him
I don't want to rehash the Flores stuff, I don't see eye to eye with everyone on that issue and much of it flows up to Stephen Ross/Chris Grier vs Tua
Tua has done an incredible job of winning the games against teams we should beat, that hasn't happened in a long time
This team used to be lucky to score 20 and hope the defense could hold the Opp to under 20, that was the story since the early 2000s
So in that sense, it's fun to watch this team play. But we are in Year 3 of the McDaniel era, his 3rd DC and if he doesn't win a Playoff game this season, when is he held accountable?
I'm trying to keep an open mind, we lost a lot on both sides of the OL/DL, that was the calling card of the '83-'84-'85 teams and throughout the 80s, no defense and all offense.
I think this team has even better playmakers than the early 90s Miami teams with Cox, Oliver and Troy Vincent.
I have Miami winning the Division, they're loaded on offense, they better kick butt.
BIRDGANG52
Footballguy
There's not question that Wright has talent, it's a matter of touches. He's behind the player who scored the most TD last year (Mostert. 18TD) and the player who averaged the highest YPC last year (Achene, 7.8YPC). Not sure how much meat on the bone there is going to be for him.
Wright is an athletic freak, but he's still a rookie in a crowded backfield.
Wright is an athletic freak, but he's still a rookie in a crowded backfield.
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
For sure but could also say he’s behind a 32 year old RB with a lengthy injury history and a 188 pound RB who had a knee sprain, shoulder sprain and bruised ribs during year 1. Wright definitely needs an injury to be viable but that’s why he is going so late.
Todem
Footballguy
He will be playing serious reps this season at some point based on both Mostert and Achane's injury histories. Believe it or not....the Dolphins should be a heavy run team this season.....I hope they are. That set's everything up with the motion and PA which is where Tua and Hill are most effective. When we don't run the ball....we get shut down. Period. Mcdaniel needs to stay committed to the run to have success vs winning teams.....something Tua has had a huge problem with.
Tua is 7-14 lifetime vs winning teams.
Run the damn ball.
An what is key with him and the system is he does not need an injury to a player, he needs and injury to one of two players, two players who have struggled to stay healthy. That's why I consider him the second most valuable pure handcuff right now(which does not count 1A/1B types like Titans and Bengals)
-OZ-
Footballguy
I get the love after last year but this is the same 32yo back who until last year had never had 1,000 rushing yards, and until he arrived in Miami had 9 starts in his career. He showed flashes but way too infrequently . It seems more likely to me that 2024 was an aberration. Remember Jamaal Williams?
That’s not to say he won’t keep the role, but I sure won’t be buying him as more than good enough to capitalize on a great situation.
Wright seems capable of more.
BIRDGANG52
Footballguy
That's a fair observation. The pie so large, that the 3rd String actually has more value than some team's backups since if you're relying on two people to possibly get hurt, there's actually an increased aggregate chance of him seeing fantasy relevant opportunity. He can handle the same role as Achene and Mostert, whichever one he needs to fill.
Didn't about it this way, smart.
bluemanfoo
Footballguy
I don't like having to read the mind of a head coach in order for my early round pick to succeed. I don't know think any of us really know how the carries are going to be split and the offensive line is rated as one of the worst in the league after losing some lineman over the offseason. They've been able to scheme around their relatively weak offensive line in the past, but it's a real concern this year. So I passed on Achane (and Kyren too). I way prefer Wright's risk/reward late in the draft. And like others, I'm waiting for an injury to one of the other two backs for Wright to be relevant. Anything Wright does without an Achane/Mostert injury is gravy.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I've regurgitated about as much as I could in the Achane thread, but I found this interesting (which again applies to Achane's role on the Dolphins).
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Guy bounces off tackles, wish he weren't even playing tonight
@Anarchy99 has suggested just taking this guy late and passing on Achance and Mostert...it's not a bad idea but I still like Achance-Wright or Mostert-Wright better so you can enjoy the starting RBs as long as they are healthy. It's possible both Raheem and Achane make it most of the season...stop laughing in the back row!
In "close game" situations (one possession), Achane's stats last year were: 26-133-5.1-1 | 9-44-0
In games that were considered "not close" situations (15+ points), Achane's stats last year were: 77-667-7 | 18-153-3
Here's the same breakdown for Mostert . . .
In "close game" situations (one possession), Mostert's stats last year were: 94-471-5.0-6 | 6-34-1
In games that were considered "not close" situations (15+ points), Mostert's stats last year were: 115-541-12 | 19-141-2
Mostert had a 3-to-1 carry advantage in close games and a 3-to-2 carry advantage in multi-score games. As I indicated in the Achane thread, Achane scored a huge chunk of his season fantasy total in garbage time against DEN and WAS last year (when MIA won by a combine 80 points). Every depth chart I see for this upcoming season still has Mostert listed as the starter and Achane listed as a backup. Yet for fantasy purposes, Achane is coming off the draft board at Pick 20 (RB8), Mostert is getting selected on average at Pick 78 (RB25), and Wright doesn't get snapped up until Pick 147 (RB48).
I still think the Dolphins backfield is due for regression in total TD (34 last year) and most likely in terms of YFS as well. The reason I prefer Wright is Achane didn't get a larger workload when Mostert missed time last year. IMO, that leads me to conclude that if Mostert got hurt, Wright would see most of Mostert's workload, and if Achane got hurt, Wright would pick up Achane's workload.
Sure, maybe the Fins elevate Achane to top of the RB heap and Mostert takes on a 100-touch backup role (I don't see evidence of that so far). Or Achane and Mostert take on an equal share of the workload (I don't really see that as of now, but it might turn into that). Or Mostert could get hurt (always a possibility) or start underproducing (he's not a spring chicken). Miami could be scoring and have big leads a lot (which is where Achane shined), but I think the Dolphins won't have quite as many lobsided outings this season.
Fantasy wise, drafting Achane as a backup RB in the Top 20 overall picks seems like a poor business decision. It makes more sense to take the starting RB in Round 7. But I do think Mostert won't be as productive as last year (or as healthy). That leads me to consider Wright over the other two guys, as I think he would be a fantasy starter in any game Mostert or Achane missed. I'd be a lot happier investing a 13th round pick for a chance to get what I think would be a top scoring back if either of the other two missed time. By then, I would already have the core of my fantasy team constructed and would be looking for more home run type picks to fill out my roster.
markrc99
Footballguy
I don't know that he's played his best football, I happen to agree that his landing spot is excellent. However, one doesn't have to search high & low to find a play that exemplifies Wright's vision or lack there of. His most recent work on tape... this isn't some 50/50 play, it's a home run ball he doesn't see. The url below, scroll to the 5:00 min mark. It's a screen play, even after he practically runs up the back of his WR block, it's still there! It's a truck-size hole that hangs there & it doesn't appear as though he even sees it. I have him on all three of my teams, a wire add.
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I'll take the guy who has an OC/HC that continues to put him in those situations and take my chancesI don't know that he's played his best football, I happen to agree that his landing spot is excellent. However, one doesn't have to search high & low to find a play that exemplifies Wright's vision or lack there of. His most recent work on tape... this isn't some 50/50 play, it's a home run ball he doesn't see. The url below, scroll to the 5:00 min mark. It's a screen play, even after he practically runs up the back of his WR block, it's still there! It's a truck-size hole that hangs there & it doesn't appear as though he even sees it. I have him on all three of my teams, a wire add.
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His stats or numbers during the preseason were pretty good and in my leagues we don't get any hits for RBs that miss truck size holes
17/91/TD, 5.4 ypc
4/41 rec or over 10 yds per catch
For a guy who is as blind as Mr Magoo when it comes to picking holes that he jump cuts 2 feet or 2 holes over at times, I'll take my chances
And I mean no disrespect to you, I've been reading several of your posts and I appreciate your insight
But like you said he landed in a great opp, Mostert is likely in his final year and Achane didn't make folks feel he was built to last his rookie season
Lot to like here
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Miami Dolphins Depth Chart currently
RB - Raheem Mostert, De'Von Achane, Jeff Wilson Jr, Jaylen Wright
He's running in 4th place at the moment
RB - Raheem Mostert, De'Von Achane, Jeff Wilson Jr, Jaylen Wright
He's running in 4th place at the moment
Anarchy99
Footballguy
It depends where you look. Any depth chart at this point is a best guess. CBS, ESPN, FBG, USAToday, and others have Wright third.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Yeah, but he’s at least #2 in dynasty value. That’s all that’s important to me. I’m more interested in 2025, with 2024 upside.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I’ll just say this time last year even before Achane got hurt, I remember people getting down on him because he had played behind Wilson and others in preseason and the Achane hype was really losing steam.
titusbramble
Footballguy
Took him in dynasty back in May. Expecting zero this season barring injuries, but sky is the limit year two onwards
