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RB Jerome Ford, CLE (2 Viewers)

Where is he slotting in the rb rankings while Chubb on pup list? Top 20?
His ADP is currently RB40, second lowest of any RB expected to start for his team Week 1 (Chuba Hubbard at RB45 is the lowest).
That's insane to me. Browns have a decent o-line, should move the ball (Watson's health pending), and he's got no competition.

I'm also of the mind that Chubb ain't coming back after 4 weeks, and when he does come back it'll still be a committee. If the Browns are out of the playoff hunt later in the season I can see them shutting down Chubb entirely.
Exactly this.

I can't see any world in which Cleveland gives him (Chubb) 20+ touches this season. It would be coaching/organizational malpractice.

I think Chubb takes half the work by the end of the season. Someone is going to point out that Ford will lose half of his touches come late in the season. 2 things on this:

1. You're paying for a split touches/handcuff RB.
2. There's a world in which Chubb doesn't play at all this season. He could have a set back. Guys with ACL injuries sometimes injure other things during the recovery.

I think for a guy that you're guaranteed 4 starts out of--Ford is an absolute STEAL.
Insane value. Targeting in every league. The perfect zero RB target.

CLE will probably pass more too this year which plays to Ford's strengths as well.

I'll worry about when Chubb gets back after week 4. Hoping Ford can help me in the flex the first part of the season. If Chubb does come back, I trust that I have managed the wire to grow another RB.
 
Where is he slotting in the rb rankings while Chubb on pup list? Top 20?
His ADP is currently RB40, second lowest of any RB expected to start for his team Week 1 (Chuba Hubbard at RB45 is the lowest).
That's insane to me. Browns have a decent o-line, should move the ball (Watson's health pending), and he's got no competition.

I'm also of the mind that Chubb ain't coming back after 4 weeks, and when he does come back it'll still be a committee. If the Browns are out of the playoff hunt later in the season I can see them shutting down Chubb entirely.
Exactly this.

I can't see any world in which Cleveland gives him (Chubb) 20+ touches this season. It would be coaching/organizational malpractice.

I think Chubb takes half the work by the end of the season. Someone is going to point out that Ford will lose half of his touches come late in the season. 2 things on this:

1. You're paying for a split touches/handcuff RB.
2. There's a world in which Chubb doesn't play at all this season. He could have a set back. Guys with ACL injuries sometimes injure other things during the recovery.

I think for a guy that you're guaranteed 4 starts out of--Ford is an absolute STEAL.
Insane value. Targeting in every league. The perfect zero RB target.

CLE will probably pass more too this year which plays to Ford's strengths as well.

I'll worry about when Chubb gets back after week 4. Hoping Ford can help me in the flex the first part of the season. If Chubb does come back, I trust that I have managed the wire to grow another RB.
Agree completely. I’m taking him “early” if one of my targets isn’t on the board. You can get him and Chubb later and lock up the Clev backfield. Then you can use Chubb’s spot on another rookie RB while he’s on PUP.
 
I've thought Ford was undervalued all offseason and am overweight on him.

A healthier OL combined with a new spread offense that I think will help him more than a Nick Chubb designed offense will certainly benefit (and hurt the likes of K Hunt/D Foreman). I'm ready for it. FBG has him RB16 this week between King Henry and Joe Mixon. Not bad for a double-digit pick. Giddy up!
 
How are we feeling about Ford this week?

The emergence of D. Foreman is a tad disturbing. Conditions were wet last week, wondering if that had anything to do with it.

CLE should be able to run quite a bit against the NYG run D. Could see quite a bit of Foreman if CLE gets the lead which could reduce the need for Watson to throw to Ford out of the backfield.

I actually own both, but right now leaning towards starting Ford in a game that should give CLE a lot of offensive opportunities. Always a chance the more explosive Ford rips off some long runs and a TD.
 
How are we feeling about Ford this week?

The emergence of D. Foreman is a tad disturbing.
I was also disturbed a little bit about Foreman last week. But I also think they believe(d) in Pierre Strong at least a little bit and if I have the timeline correct, Strong got injured early in the game and then Foreman came in more than expected as a result. In my eyes Ford is the obvious playmaker of the group but honestly not sure Watson is worth his weight in poop. The offense in general suffers because of it. Nevertheless I like Ford a lot and both him and Foreman are probably decent starts this week but I'd give the edge to Ford based on passing work and big play ability. Foreman likely goal line carries. Starting Ford with confidence but tempered expectations.
 
How are we feeling about Ford this week?

The emergence of D. Foreman is a tad disturbing.
I was also disturbed a little bit about Foreman last week. But I also think they believe(d) in Pierre Strong at least a little bit and if I have the timeline correct, Strong got injured early in the game and then Foreman came in more than expected as a result. In my eyes Ford is the obvious playmaker of the group but honestly not sure Watson is worth his weight in poop. The offense in general suffers because of it. Nevertheless I like Ford a lot and both him and Foreman are probably decent starts this week but I'd give the edge to Ford based on passing work and big play ability. Foreman likely goal line carries. Starting Ford with confidence but tempered expectations.
I think Foreman actually got the first carries before Strong even got hurt.

Would be a bit of a shocking turn of events if this continues with Foreman. I thought he was left for dead with a neck injury. Plus, he's new to the team while Ford has been with the program. Odd.
 
Never seen a RB who so often doesn’t take advantage of great matchups against vulnerable run defenses. Never, ever trusting him again. Can’t wait to drop him.
 
What's Fords value going forward? He's seemingly splitting with Foreman and Chubb should be back soon.
Low and declining. Hasn’t gotten enough volume to provide dependable fantasy production, even in advantageous matchups. Stefanski clearly doesn’t trust him enough. Ford has been a starter in Chubb’s absence but has operated on offense like a glorified 3rd down back. Has lost touches in the red zone to Kareem Hunt last year and D’Onta Foreman this year. From what I understand he’s also been terrible in pass protection, and given the sudden need to go pass heavy with a washed up Watson, it’s a recipe for disaster. I wouldn’t want any piece of the Browns offense right now. Ford has some value in PPR due to his 20 receptions which ranks 3rd among RBs. But generally speaking he doesn’t get enough touches to be a factor.

Bottom line is Ford has had a year and a half and hasn’t shown to be a reliable fantasy option (whether it’s his fault or not) given the opportunity, and now Chubb is returning soon so whatever value Ford has is evaporating.
 
I've started cutting him in my shallower leagues. He may have a few decent games left in him, but Chubb is nearing his return, and Ford isn't reliable as is.

I have a lot of Ford shares. I thought he would be a solid starter the first 4-6 weeks of the season and then split carries with Chubb when Chubb got back. He's just not getting the volume as is. I have zero faith in what's to come.
 
I've started cutting him in my shallower leagues. He may have a few decent games left in him, but Chubb is nearing his return, and Ford isn't reliable as is.

I have a lot of Ford shares. I thought he would be a solid starter the first 4-6 weeks of the season and then split carries with Chubb when Chubb got back. He's just not getting the volume as is. I have zero faith in what's to come.
Agree on all fronts, but of course he tempts us again this week with arguably the best RB matchup against the Cinci run D.
 
Thought about dropping him last night for the dart toss hot player of the week, but decided he still had enough value to hold. I have Chubb on my IR slot waiting.

Now, I’m honestly debating if the play is to drop him and let him faulter in somebody else’s lineup?

Foreman stealing touches and I doubt I will ever start him (haven’t stated him all season thus far)…
 
Thought about dropping him last night for the dart toss hot player of the week, but decided he still had enough value to hold. I have Chubb on my IR slot waiting.

Now, I’m honestly debating if the play is to drop him and let him faulter in somebody else’s lineup?

Foreman stealing touches and I doubt I will ever start him (haven’t stated him all season thus far)…
I the FBG Bowl he's pretty much been a hold nose must start with 2/3/1/2 flex between injuries and byes
 
I've started cutting him in my shallower leagues. He may have a few decent games left in him, but Chubb is nearing his return, and Ford isn't reliable as is.

I have a lot of Ford shares. I thought he would be a solid starter the first 4-6 weeks of the season and then split carries with Chubb when Chubb got back. He's just not getting the volume as is. I have zero faith in what's to come.
Agree on all fronts, but of course he tempts us again this week with arguably the best RB matchup against the Cinci run D.
He had the Commanders last week which was 31st in the NFL in yards per carry allowed, and only carried the ball 9 times

Week before that he had the Raiders who had given up 458 rushing yards their first three games, and again he barely ran it (10-58-0), doing work as a dump-off receiver (7-27-0).

Prior to THAT, he had the New York Giants whose defense at the time ranked 28th against the run, 163 rushing yards per game. You see where I’m going with this. Ford finished with 10-37-0 and 3-33-0. These are J.D. McKissic usage type numbers, nobody is winning with that.

There are no matchups that are too good for Ford not to exploit, not with this offense. It’s a shame because I think he would feast in an offense like San Francisco’s. Ford is an example that opportunity and situation are two different things. He’s had the opportunity, but the situation has sucked.
 
I've started cutting him in my shallower leagues. He may have a few decent games left in him, but Chubb is nearing his return, and Ford isn't reliable as is.

I have a lot of Ford shares. I thought he would be a solid starter the first 4-6 weeks of the season and then split carries with Chubb when Chubb got back. He's just not getting the volume as is. I have zero faith in what's to come.
Agree on all fronts, but of course he tempts us again this week with arguably the best RB matchup against the Cinci run D.
He had the Commanders last week which was 31st in the NFL in yards per carry allowed, and only carried the ball 9 times

Week before that he had the Raiders who had given up 458 rushing yards their first three games, and again he barely ran it (10-58-0), doing work as a dump-off receiver (7-27-0).

Prior to THAT, he had the New York Giants whose defense at the time ranked 28th against the run, 163 rushing yards per game. You see where I’m going with this. Ford finished with 10-37-0 and 3-33-0. These are J.D. McKissic usage type numbers, nobody is winning with that.

There are no matchups that are too good for Ford not to exploit, not with this offense. It’s a shame because I think he would feast in an offense like San Francisco’s. Ford is an example that opportunity and situation are two different things. He’s had the opportunity, but the situation has sucked.
Is Ford dropable at this point?

He's a guy you think is startable but even in good matchups he isn't. Plus Chubb is coming in some shape or form. I almost want to ditch him so I don't start him.

I see other options for RB pickups like J. Warren, E. Wilson (have Jacobs), R. Davis, etc.
 
I've started cutting him in my shallower leagues. He may have a few decent games left in him, but Chubb is nearing his return, and Ford isn't reliable as is.

I have a lot of Ford shares. I thought he would be a solid starter the first 4-6 weeks of the season and then split carries with Chubb when Chubb got back. He's just not getting the volume as is. I have zero faith in what's to come.
Agree on all fronts, but of course he tempts us again this week with arguably the best RB matchup against the Cinci run D.
He had the Commanders last week which was 31st in the NFL in yards per carry allowed, and only carried the ball 9 times

Week before that he had the Raiders who had given up 458 rushing yards their first three games, and again he barely ran it (10-58-0), doing work as a dump-off receiver (7-27-0).

Prior to THAT, he had the New York Giants whose defense at the time ranked 28th against the run, 163 rushing yards per game. You see where I’m going with this. Ford finished with 10-37-0 and 3-33-0. These are J.D. McKissic usage type numbers, nobody is winning with that.

There are no matchups that are too good for Ford not to exploit, not with this offense. It’s a shame because I think he would feast in an offense like San Francisco’s. Ford is an example that opportunity and situation are two different things. He’s had the opportunity, but the situation has sucked.
Is Ford dropable at this point?

He's a guy you think is startable but even in good matchups he isn't. Plus Chubb is coming in some shape or form. I almost want to ditch him so I don't start him.

I see other options for RB pickups like J. Warren, E. Wilson (have Jacobs), R. Davis, etc.
I think I'd wait on that. I doubt Chubb is ready yet and heard that Foreman might be a bit banged up. The Eagles defense has been struggling this season and if Ford is the featured back all/most of the game, he could be a nice play.
 
I've started cutting him in my shallower leagues. He may have a few decent games left in him, but Chubb is nearing his return, and Ford isn't reliable as is.

I have a lot of Ford shares. I thought he would be a solid starter the first 4-6 weeks of the season and then split carries with Chubb when Chubb got back. He's just not getting the volume as is. I have zero faith in what's to come.
Agree on all fronts, but of course he tempts us again this week with arguably the best RB matchup against the Cinci run D.
He had the Commanders last week which was 31st in the NFL in yards per carry allowed, and only carried the ball 9 times

Week before that he had the Raiders who had given up 458 rushing yards their first three games, and again he barely ran it (10-58-0), doing work as a dump-off receiver (7-27-0).

Prior to THAT, he had the New York Giants whose defense at the time ranked 28th against the run, 163 rushing yards per game. You see where I’m going with this. Ford finished with 10-37-0 and 3-33-0. These are J.D. McKissic usage type numbers, nobody is winning with that.

There are no matchups that are too good for Ford not to exploit, not with this offense. It’s a shame because I think he would feast in an offense like San Francisco’s. Ford is an example that opportunity and situation are two different things. He’s had the opportunity, but the situation has sucked.
Is Ford dropable at this point?

He's a guy you think is startable but even in good matchups he isn't. Plus Chubb is coming in some shape or form. I almost want to ditch him so I don't start him.

I see other options for RB pickups like J. Warren, E. Wilson (have Jacobs), R. Davis, etc.
I think I'd wait on that. I doubt Chubb is ready yet and heard that Foreman might be a bit banged up. The Eagles defense has been struggling this season and if Ford is the featured back all/most of the game, he could be a nice play.
Lol. I feel like he's had the matchups and laid an egg all year.

I suppose if Foreman is out, he could be a play. Right now have Dowdle in but that's a tough matchup against the DET run D.
 
I've started cutting him in my shallower leagues. He may have a few decent games left in him, but Chubb is nearing his return, and Ford isn't reliable as is.

I have a lot of Ford shares. I thought he would be a solid starter the first 4-6 weeks of the season and then split carries with Chubb when Chubb got back. He's just not getting the volume as is. I have zero faith in what's to come.
Agree on all fronts, but of course he tempts us again this week with arguably the best RB matchup against the Cinci run D.
He had the Commanders last week which was 31st in the NFL in yards per carry allowed, and only carried the ball 9 times

Week before that he had the Raiders who had given up 458 rushing yards their first three games, and again he barely ran it (10-58-0), doing work as a dump-off receiver (7-27-0).

Prior to THAT, he had the New York Giants whose defense at the time ranked 28th against the run, 163 rushing yards per game. You see where I’m going with this. Ford finished with 10-37-0 and 3-33-0. These are J.D. McKissic usage type numbers, nobody is winning with that.

There are no matchups that are too good for Ford not to exploit, not with this offense. It’s a shame because I think he would feast in an offense like San Francisco’s. Ford is an example that opportunity and situation are two different things. He’s had the opportunity, but the situation has sucked.
Is Ford dropable at this point?

He's a guy you think is startable but even in good matchups he isn't. Plus Chubb is coming in some shape or form. I almost want to ditch him so I don't start him.

I see other options for RB pickups like J. Warren, E. Wilson (have Jacobs), R. Davis, etc.
I've already cut bait, as his value is only decreasing by the week with the defensive schedule getting tougher, the Browns effectively abandoning the run, and I simply don't trust him enough to ever put him in my lineup again. My league doesn't score points for receptions and that's where his value is at this point. Won't do enough as Browns RB1, and if he can't fend off Foreman, I can't see him fending off even a 60% Nick Chubb. Ford has value to the Browns as a pass catching option and is still on his first contract which doesn't expire until his age 27 season in 2026. His short term value is limited and his long term value looks even less likely.

He'll probably get 60 yards and a TD this week now that I dropped him, but I'm happy to let him be someone else's problem. I prefer more upside with my bench slots.
 
RB is so brutal, I even knew that going into 2024 and invested first 2 rounds in RB/RB this year and still it sucked. ETN has been my bust along w/ Breece Hall. So I might play Ford over ETN or just hope that Tracy Jr. works out.

Ford was my extra insurance piece, but it has been very anti climatic. I'll likely drop him if Foreman practices full today.

After missing Wednesday's session, Foreman's return to a limited practice one day later has him trending in a positive direction ahead of Sunday's game against the
Eagles. However, the running back likely will need to practice fully Friday in order to avoid a Week 6 injury designation.
 
RB is so brutal, I even knew that going into 2024 and invested first 2 rounds in RB/RB this year and still it sucked. ETN has been my bust along w/ Breece Hall. So I might play Ford over ETN or just hope that Tracy Jr. works out.

Ford was my extra insurance piece, but it has been very anti climatic. I'll likely drop him if Foreman practices full today.

After missing Wednesday's session, Foreman's return to a limited practice one day later has him trending in a positive direction ahead of Sunday's game against the
Eagles. However, the running back likely will need to practice fully Friday in order to avoid a Week 6 injury designation.
Yeah I'm watching the practice reports. If Foreman is playing, I'll probably drop him before kickoff.

I'm making one last ditch trade effort: J. Ford & JuJu for a banged up D. Singletary. I already have T. Tracy and I think the NYGs D is a lot better than originally advertised. Singletary owner is 1-4.
 
Many of us searching for a RB2 due to bye week woes this week.

Now I won’t say he’s ranked high. But…

Many rankings have Ford ranked fairly decently over some other guys I figured would be better plays. I’m not sure I see it based on his usage and results.

Maybe many are factoring in the weather of tonight’s game.

Granted I haven’t watch many Browns games as I don’t own any Browns, but Is there something I’m missing with this guy.

Is there a scenario where he provides value tonight?
 
Many of us searching for a RB2 due to bye week woes this week.

Now I won’t say he’s ranked high. But…

Many rankings have Ford ranked fairly decently over some other guys I figured would be better plays. I’m not sure I see it based on his usage and results.

Maybe many are factoring in the weather of tonight’s game.

Granted I haven’t watch many Browns games as I don’t own any Browns, but Is there something I’m missing with this guy.

Is there a scenario where he provides value tonight?
Only if CLE falls behind early and they abandon the running game.
 
Next Gen Stats
Jerome Ford reached a top speed of 21.70 mph on his 62-yard TD run, the fastest play by a Browns ball carrier since Week 4, 2019 (Nick Chubb, 21.95 mph).

Ford is responsible for the three fastest speeds by a Browns ball carrier over the last five seasons.

#KCvsCLE | #DawgPound
 
I don’t understand the lack of usage - Ford should be a lead back somewhere. Capable of explosive plays and is a 3 down back.
Looks like he will get that chance again.

I had a bye this week but may have lost Kamara if his injury is serious. Looks like I may be tossing all my playoff FAAB at a shiny new Ford.
 
Am I the only one who got Ford off waivers? There’s 300 people discussing starting Kendre Miller and absolute silence in here.

So, I’ll see if I can rile it up with a question.

Who are you starting Ford over in your league?

I’m looking at possibly starting him in my flex over Addison and Higgins. But I have not made a decision yet.

DTR and the Browns offense as a whole worries me… but I also think he could be a nice pass catching safety valve for DTR so could experience a nice PPR floor.
 
Am I the only one who got Ford off waivers? There’s 300 people discussing starting Kendre Miller and absolute silence in here.

So, I’ll see if I can rile it up with a question.

Who are you starting Ford over in your league?

I’m looking at possibly starting him in my flex over Addison and Higgins. But I have not made a decision yet.

DTR and the Browns offense as a whole worries me… but I also think he could be a nice pass catching safety valve for DTR so could experience a nice PPR floor.

Hall, Achane and Brown (plus Collins) but wavering to say the least, especially with Hall.
 
As a starter in negative game scripts last year he net 14, 10, 13, 12, and 13 touches. He scored one TD in those games and topped out at 79 total yards. The story wasn't much different early this season w Chubb out and while that was with an abomination at QB it's fair to question the caliber of offense we're getting w DTR. And there is no questioning the caliber of offense they're facing, as evident by the 8.5 pt spread.

Some are backed into a corner and don't have a choice, but unless you have faith in DTR...
 
My concern is that he won’t have as much of the backfield as we think - have to expect they’ll activate D’ontae Johnson plus Strong may get some touches as well.
 
Am I the only one who got Ford off waivers? There’s 300 people discussing starting Kendre Miller and absolute silence in here.

So, I’ll see if I can rile it up with a question.

Who are you starting Ford over in your league?

I’m looking at possibly starting him in my flex over Addison and Higgins. But I have not made a decision yet.

DTR and the Browns offense as a whole worries me… but I also think he could be a nice pass catching safety valve for DTR so could experience a nice PPR floor.
Tracy and Pittman in one, Keenan and Mooney in another. Waffling vs both Tracy and Keenan primarily
 
Am I the only one who got Ford off waivers? There’s 300 people discussing starting Kendre Miller and absolute silence in here.

So, I’ll see if I can rile it up with a question.

Who are you starting Ford over in your league?

I’m looking at possibly starting him in my flex over Addison and Higgins. But I have not made a decision yet.

DTR and the Browns offense as a whole worries me… but I also think he could be a nice pass catching safety valve for DTR so could experience a nice PPR floor.
Torn between Ford, Tracy and McMillan in my flex spot. Was definitely leaning Ford. Now that Otten won’t play, does that create more opportunities for McMillan? Obviously, huge question marks that the Browns and Giants will even be able to move the ball with their QB situations.
 
Am I the only one who got Ford off waivers? There’s 300 people discussing starting Kendre Miller and absolute silence in here.

So, I’ll see if I can rile it up with a question.

Who are you starting Ford over in your league?

I’m looking at possibly starting him in my flex over Addison and Higgins. But I have not made a decision yet.

DTR and the Browns offense as a whole worries me… but I also think he could be a nice pass catching safety valve for DTR so could experience a nice PPR floor.
Torn between Ford, Tracy and McMillan in my flex spot. Was definitely leaning Ford. Now that Otten won’t play, does that create more opportunities for McMillan? Obviously, huge question marks that the Browns and Giants will even be able to move the ball with their QB situations.

Otton's past 4 weeks he had 3,7,4,3 targets...it definitely doesn't hurt having Otton out but since Evans got back Otton has not but getting too much love.
 
Got 18 so far.


On my bench of course. At least the other guy couldn’t use him.
I sat him for JSN and Higgins. Not a terrible move in a vacuum, and a decision I’d likely make again. Especially after seeing how few touches the Browns gave him after ripping off a 66 yarder to begin.

But, he did outscore both of them.
 
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One of the weirder ADPs for me right now. I get why guys who are hurt or have contract/suspensions are sliding. But this guy looks likely to be the lead back barring a breakout from the other rookie.
 

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