RB Jonathan Taylor, IND (8 Viewers)

[JohnnyU]

Jonathan Taylor efficient in loss Sunday

Jonathan Taylor rushed the ball 12 times for 103 yards and caught two passes for 32 yards in Sunday's 16-10 loss to the Green Bay Packers.

Fantasy Impact

The Colts suffered a loss to the Packers on Sunday, but not much blame can be put on Taylor. He rushed for over 100 yards at an efficient clip of 8.6 yards per carry, but the team only gave him 14 touches over the course of the afternoon. He ended up having an decent outing for fantasy purposes, but the first couple of weeks of the season have proven that Anthony Richardson is a big point of frustration for the star running back's week-to-week production.

Anyone have any idea why the Colts suddenly stopped using Jonathan Taylor after 2 1/2 quarters?? I guess the script was for the Packers to win this one?? Literally makes no sense.

I watched the Steichen press conference and they pressed him on why Taylor wasn't in the game in the 4th qtr. His lame response was he wanted to give Sermon more reps. Nothing about whether it was a pass blocking issue or anything else. You can probably search for it in YouTube, so go watch it. IMO Steichen got lost in his thoughts with regards to who was playing RB, while concentrating on the passing game. He laid an egg in this game for sure.

 

[Payne]

Just as worried, if not more, than I was after week 1. I honestly thought Reich was back calling plays.

 

[DeaLerZ]

Jonathan Taylor efficient in loss Sunday

Jonathan Taylor rushed the ball 12 times for 103 yards and caught two passes for 32 yards in Sunday's 16-10 loss to the Green Bay Packers.

Fantasy Impact

The Colts suffered a loss to the Packers on Sunday, but not much blame can be put on Taylor. He rushed for over 100 yards at an efficient clip of 8.6 yards per carry, but the team only gave him 14 touches over the course of the afternoon. He ended up having an decent outing for fantasy purposes, but the first couple of weeks of the season have proven that Anthony Richardson is a big point of frustration for the star running back's week-to-week production.

Anyone have any idea why the Colts suddenly stopped using Jonathan Taylor after 2 1/2 quarters?? I guess the script was for the Packers to win this one?? Literally makes no sense.

I watched the Steichen press conference and they pressed him on why Taylor wasn't in the game in the 4th qtr. His lame response was he wanted to give Sermon more reps. Nothing about whether it was a pass blocking issue or anything else. You can probably search for it in YouTube, so go watch it. IMO Steichen got lost in his thoughts with regards to who was playing RB, while concentrating on the passing game. He laid an egg in this game for sure.

That literally makes no sense in a close game where Taylor has been running all over the Packers averaging almost 9 yds a carry. No way Steichen is that dumb that he forgot to play his best offensive weapon in Taylor. Seems super fishy to me

 

[Payne]

Jonathan Taylor efficient in loss Sunday

Jonathan Taylor rushed the ball 12 times for 103 yards and caught two passes for 32 yards in Sunday's 16-10 loss to the Green Bay Packers.

Fantasy Impact

The Colts suffered a loss to the Packers on Sunday, but not much blame can be put on Taylor. He rushed for over 100 yards at an efficient clip of 8.6 yards per carry, but the team only gave him 14 touches over the course of the afternoon. He ended up having an decent outing for fantasy purposes, but the first couple of weeks of the season have proven that Anthony Richardson is a big point of frustration for the star running back's week-to-week production.

Anyone have any idea why the Colts suddenly stopped using Jonathan Taylor after 2 1/2 quarters?? I guess the script was for the Packers to win this one?? Literally makes no sense.

I watched the Steichen press conference and they pressed him on why Taylor wasn't in the game in the 4th qtr. His lame response was he wanted to give Sermon more reps. Nothing about whether it was a pass blocking issue or anything else. You can probably search for it in YouTube, so go watch it. IMO Steichen got lost in his thoughts with regards to who was playing RB, while concentrating on the passing game. He laid an egg in this game for sure.

That literally makes no sense in a close game where Taylor has been running all over the Packers averaging almost 9 yds a carry. No way Steichen is that dumb that he forgot to play his best offensive weapon in Taylor. Seems super fishy to me

Of course it's dumb.

 

[JohnnyU]

Jonathan Taylor efficient in loss Sunday

Jonathan Taylor rushed the ball 12 times for 103 yards and caught two passes for 32 yards in Sunday's 16-10 loss to the Green Bay Packers.

Fantasy Impact

The Colts suffered a loss to the Packers on Sunday, but not much blame can be put on Taylor. He rushed for over 100 yards at an efficient clip of 8.6 yards per carry, but the team only gave him 14 touches over the course of the afternoon. He ended up having an decent outing for fantasy purposes, but the first couple of weeks of the season have proven that Anthony Richardson is a big point of frustration for the star running back's week-to-week production.

Anyone have any idea why the Colts suddenly stopped using Jonathan Taylor after 2 1/2 quarters?? I guess the script was for the Packers to win this one?? Literally makes no sense.

I watched the Steichen press conference and they pressed him on why Taylor wasn't in the game in the 4th qtr. His lame response was he wanted to give Sermon more reps. Nothing about whether it was a pass blocking issue or anything else. You can probably search for it in YouTube, so go watch it. IMO Steichen got lost in his thoughts with regards to who was playing RB, while concentrating on the passing game. He laid an egg in this game for sure.

That literally makes no sense in a close game where Taylor has been running all over the Packers averaging almost 9 yds a carry. No way Steichen is that dumb that he forgot to play his best offensive weapon in Taylor. Seems super fishy to me

Maybe so. Go watch the press conference and get back to me on your thoughts. I thought they did a good job holding him accountable regarding Taylor.

 

[DeaLerZ]

Jonathan Taylor efficient in loss Sunday

Jonathan Taylor rushed the ball 12 times for 103 yards and caught two passes for 32 yards in Sunday's 16-10 loss to the Green Bay Packers.

Fantasy Impact

The Colts suffered a loss to the Packers on Sunday, but not much blame can be put on Taylor. He rushed for over 100 yards at an efficient clip of 8.6 yards per carry, but the team only gave him 14 touches over the course of the afternoon. He ended up having an decent outing for fantasy purposes, but the first couple of weeks of the season have proven that Anthony Richardson is a big point of frustration for the star running back's week-to-week production.

Anyone have any idea why the Colts suddenly stopped using Jonathan Taylor after 2 1/2 quarters?? I guess the script was for the Packers to win this one?? Literally makes no sense.

I watched the Steichen press conference and they pressed him on why Taylor wasn't in the game in the 4th qtr. His lame response was he wanted to give Sermon more reps. Nothing about whether it was a pass blocking issue or anything else. You can probably search for it in YouTube, so go watch it. IMO Steichen got lost in his thoughts with regards to who was playing RB, while concentrating on the passing game. He laid an egg in this game for sure.

That literally makes no sense in a close game where Taylor has been running all over the Packers averaging almost 9 yds a carry. No way Steichen is that dumb that he forgot to play his best offensive weapon in Taylor. Seems super fishy to me

Maybe so. Go watch the press conference and get back to me on your thoughts. I thought they did a good job holding him accountable regarding Taylor.

Yeah they did a good job holding him accountable. Hopefully, he won't act like a turd for the 3rd time in 4 games next week and will let JT cook.

He did the same thing in week 18 last year when the playoffs were on the line. Does he think he can outsmart the defense because of ego instead of using his best player??? or he is being told that they need to lose ??? It literally makes zero sense when your best player is averaging 9 yards a carry with the reasoning he gave. Sermon shouldn't have been in the game at all unless it was like 3rd and 8 or something

Pesonally, I think Steichen is one of the best offensive minds in the game, and he ran the hell out of the ball in Philadelphia with Hurts/Sanders & co, with a lot of play action. I just don't see how he wouldn't want to do the exact same thing in Indianapolis with the personnel that he has.

 

[JohnnyU]

Jonathan Taylor efficient in loss Sunday

Jonathan Taylor rushed the ball 12 times for 103 yards and caught two passes for 32 yards in Sunday's 16-10 loss to the Green Bay Packers.

Fantasy Impact

The Colts suffered a loss to the Packers on Sunday, but not much blame can be put on Taylor. He rushed for over 100 yards at an efficient clip of 8.6 yards per carry, but the team only gave him 14 touches over the course of the afternoon. He ended up having an decent outing for fantasy purposes, but the first couple of weeks of the season have proven that Anthony Richardson is a big point of frustration for the star running back's week-to-week production.

Anyone have any idea why the Colts suddenly stopped using Jonathan Taylor after 2 1/2 quarters?? I guess the script was for the Packers to win this one?? Literally makes no sense.

I watched the Steichen press conference and they pressed him on why Taylor wasn't in the game in the 4th qtr. His lame response was he wanted to give Sermon more reps. Nothing about whether it was a pass blocking issue or anything else. You can probably search for it in YouTube, so go watch it. IMO Steichen got lost in his thoughts with regards to who was playing RB, while concentrating on the passing game. He laid an egg in this game for sure.

That literally makes no sense in a close game where Taylor has been running all over the Packers averaging almost 9 yds a carry. No way Steichen is that dumb that he forgot to play his best offensive weapon in Taylor. Seems super fishy to me

Maybe so. Go watch the press conference and get back to me on your thoughts. I thought they did a good job holding him accountable regarding Taylor.

Yeah they did a good job holding him accountable. Hopefully, he won't act like a turd for the 3rd time in 4 games next week and will let JT cook.

He did the same thing in week 18 last year when the playoffs were on the line. Does he think he can outsmart the defense because of ego instead of using his best player??? or he is being told that they need to lose ??? It literally makes zero sense when your best player is averaging 9 yards a carry with the reasoning he gave. Sermon shouldn't have been in the game at all unless it was like 3rd and 8 or something

Pesonally, I think Steichen is one of the best offensive minds in the game, and he ran the hell out of the ball in Philadelphia with Hurts/Sanders & co, with a lot of play action. I just don't see how he wouldn't want to do the exact same thing in Indianapolis with the personnel that he has.

I think he knows he screwed up with Taylor in the 4th QTR. No way Sermon should have been in there. If he actually thinks his decision was correct, then he's a lot more arrogant than he should be.

 

[Big Nate]

Jonathan Taylor efficient in loss Sunday

Jonathan Taylor rushed the ball 12 times for 103 yards and caught two passes for 32 yards in Sunday's 16-10 loss to the Green Bay Packers.

Fantasy Impact

The Colts suffered a loss to the Packers on Sunday, but not much blame can be put on Taylor. He rushed for over 100 yards at an efficient clip of 8.6 yards per carry, but the team only gave him 14 touches over the course of the afternoon. He ended up having an decent outing for fantasy purposes, but the first couple of weeks of the season have proven that Anthony Richardson is a big point of frustration for the star running back's week-to-week production.

Anyone have any idea why the Colts suddenly stopped using Jonathan Taylor after 2 1/2 quarters?? I guess the script was for the Packers to win this one?? Literally makes no sense.

I watched the Steichen press conference and they pressed him on why Taylor wasn't in the game in the 4th qtr. His lame response was he wanted to give Sermon more reps. Nothing about whether it was a pass blocking issue or anything else. You can probably search for it in YouTube, so go watch it. IMO Steichen got lost in his thoughts with regards to who was playing RB, while concentrating on the passing game. He laid an egg in this game for sure.

That literally makes no sense in a close game where Taylor has been running all over the Packers averaging almost 9 yds a carry. No way Steichen is that dumb that he forgot to play his best offensive weapon in Taylor. Seems super fishy to me

Maybe so. Go watch the press conference and get back to me on your thoughts. I thought they did a good job holding him accountable regarding Taylor.

Yeah they did a good job holding him accountable. Hopefully, he won't act like a turd for the 3rd time in 4 games next week and will let JT cook.

He did the same thing in week 18 last year when the playoffs were on the line. Does he think he can outsmart the defense because of ego instead of using his best player??? or he is being told that they need to lose ??? It literally makes zero sense when your best player is averaging 9 yards a carry with the reasoning he gave. Sermon shouldn't have been in the game at all unless it was like 3rd and 8 or something

Pesonally, I think Steichen is one of the best offensive minds in the game, and he ran the hell out of the ball in Philadelphia with Hurts/Sanders & co, with a lot of play action. I just don't see how he wouldn't want to do the exact same thing in Indianapolis with the personnel that he has.

I think he knows he screwed up with Taylor in the 4th QTR. No way Sermon should have been in there. If he actually thinks his decision was correct, then he's a lot more arrogant than he should be.

I'm with you on this. F these coaches who think they can "outsmart" the other team. I think Sermon is coming along nicely but man you need to have your best RB on the field in the 4th.

Legit dumbass coaching sometimes. Glad they grilled him. Hopefully it smacked some sense into him.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Jonathan Taylor efficient in loss Sunday

Jonathan Taylor rushed the ball 12 times for 103 yards and caught two passes for 32 yards in Sunday's 16-10 loss to the Green Bay Packers.

Fantasy Impact

The Colts suffered a loss to the Packers on Sunday, but not much blame can be put on Taylor. He rushed for over 100 yards at an efficient clip of 8.6 yards per carry, but the team only gave him 14 touches over the course of the afternoon. He ended up having an decent outing for fantasy purposes, but the first couple of weeks of the season have proven that Anthony Richardson is a big point of frustration for the star running back's week-to-week production.

Anyone have any idea why the Colts suddenly stopped using Jonathan Taylor after 2 1/2 quarters?? I guess the script was for the Packers to win this one?? Literally makes no sense.

I watched the Steichen press conference and they pressed him on why Taylor wasn't in the game in the 4th qtr. His lame response was he wanted to give Sermon more reps. Nothing about whether it was a pass blocking issue or anything else. You can probably search for it in YouTube, so go watch it. IMO Steichen got lost in his thoughts with regards to who was playing RB, while concentrating on the passing game. He laid an egg in this game for sure.

I agree he probably should've gotten more but sometimes the game flow just works out the way it does. I think when we look at the possessions directly it's not as bad as it seems. They're 4th quarter possessions were...

Start of 4th, trailing 13-3
1st down: Taylor catches 18 yard pass
1st down: Taylor rips 29 yard run
1st down: 8yd pass
2nd and 2: Taylor gains 1 yard
3rd and 1: Sermon stuffed

So Taylor got the ball on 3 of the 5 plays, and I'm assuming he came out because he was tired after two long runs and then another carry

10min left in 4th, trailing 16-3
3 plays ending with ARich interception

This is really the one where they probably could/should have kept Taylor involved, but it's not that unusual for a team down multiple scores with under 10 mins left to not come out running

4 min left in 4th, trailing 16-3
Lots of passing, scored a TD

Obviously with 4 mins left and down two scores you've gotta come out throwing, and they scored their only TD of the game here so hard to fault them for it.

43 seconds left in 4th, trailing 16-10
Obvious passing situation


So really out of four 4th quarter possessions you could really say they needed to run the ball more on one of them, and even that was in a borderline situation where a lot of coaches are going to abandon the run.

Yes they should have run more and yes they threw the ball twice as much as they ran in the end but 16 of those pass attempts were in the last 4 minutes when they were in an obvious passing situation.

 

[JohnnyU]

Jonathan Taylor efficient in loss Sunday

Jonathan Taylor rushed the ball 12 times for 103 yards and caught two passes for 32 yards in Sunday's 16-10 loss to the Green Bay Packers.

Fantasy Impact

The Colts suffered a loss to the Packers on Sunday, but not much blame can be put on Taylor. He rushed for over 100 yards at an efficient clip of 8.6 yards per carry, but the team only gave him 14 touches over the course of the afternoon. He ended up having an decent outing for fantasy purposes, but the first couple of weeks of the season have proven that Anthony Richardson is a big point of frustration for the star running back's week-to-week production.

Anyone have any idea why the Colts suddenly stopped using Jonathan Taylor after 2 1/2 quarters?? I guess the script was for the Packers to win this one?? Literally makes no sense.

I watched the Steichen press conference and they pressed him on why Taylor wasn't in the game in the 4th qtr. His lame response was he wanted to give Sermon more reps. Nothing about whether it was a pass blocking issue or anything else. You can probably search for it in YouTube, so go watch it. IMO Steichen got lost in his thoughts with regards to who was playing RB, while concentrating on the passing game. He laid an egg in this game for sure.

I agree he probably should've gotten more but sometimes the game flow just works out the way it does. I think when we look at the possessions directly it's not as bad as it seems. They're 4th quarter possessions were...

Start of 4th, trailing 13-3
1st down: Taylor catches 18 yard pass
1st down: Taylor rips 29 yard run
1st down: 8yd pass
2nd and 2: Taylor gains 1 yard
3rd and 1: Sermon stuffed

So Taylor got the ball on 3 of the 5 plays, and I'm assuming he came out because he was tired after two long runs and then another carry

10min left in 4th, trailing 16-3
3 plays ending with ARich interception

This is really the one where they probably could/should have kept Taylor involved, but it's not that unusual for a team down multiple scores with under 10 mins left to not come out running

4 min left in 4th, trailing 16-3
Lots of passing, scored a TD

Obviously with 4 mins left and down two scores you've gotta come out throwing, and they scored their only TD of the game here so hard to fault them for it.

43 seconds left in 4th, trailing 16-10
Obvious passing situation


So really out of four 4th quarter possessions you could really say they needed to run the ball more on one of them, and even that was in a borderline situation where a lot of coaches are going to abandon the run.

Yes they should have run more and yes they threw the ball twice as much as they ran in the end but 16 of those pass attempts were in the last 4 minutes when they were in an obvious passing situation.

Why Sermon?

 

[smbkrypt24]

The option play that was run with Sermon over a Taylor run/play was not smart.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Jonathan Taylor efficient in loss Sunday

Jonathan Taylor rushed the ball 12 times for 103 yards and caught two passes for 32 yards in Sunday's 16-10 loss to the Green Bay Packers.

Fantasy Impact

The Colts suffered a loss to the Packers on Sunday, but not much blame can be put on Taylor. He rushed for over 100 yards at an efficient clip of 8.6 yards per carry, but the team only gave him 14 touches over the course of the afternoon. He ended up having an decent outing for fantasy purposes, but the first couple of weeks of the season have proven that Anthony Richardson is a big point of frustration for the star running back's week-to-week production.

Anyone have any idea why the Colts suddenly stopped using Jonathan Taylor after 2 1/2 quarters?? I guess the script was for the Packers to win this one?? Literally makes no sense.

I watched the Steichen press conference and they pressed him on why Taylor wasn't in the game in the 4th qtr. His lame response was he wanted to give Sermon more reps. Nothing about whether it was a pass blocking issue or anything else. You can probably search for it in YouTube, so go watch it. IMO Steichen got lost in his thoughts with regards to who was playing RB, while concentrating on the passing game. He laid an egg in this game for sure.

I agree he probably should've gotten more but sometimes the game flow just works out the way it does. I think when we look at the possessions directly it's not as bad as it seems. They're 4th quarter possessions were...

Start of 4th, trailing 13-3
1st down: Taylor catches 18 yard pass
1st down: Taylor rips 29 yard run
1st down: 8yd pass
2nd and 2: Taylor gains 1 yard
3rd and 1: Sermon stuffed

So Taylor got the ball on 3 of the 5 plays, and I'm assuming he came out because he was tired after two long runs and then another carry

10min left in 4th, trailing 16-3
3 plays ending with ARich interception

This is really the one where they probably could/should have kept Taylor involved, but it's not that unusual for a team down multiple scores with under 10 mins left to not come out running

4 min left in 4th, trailing 16-3
Lots of passing, scored a TD

Obviously with 4 mins left and down two scores you've gotta come out throwing, and they scored their only TD of the game here so hard to fault them for it.

43 seconds left in 4th, trailing 16-10
Obvious passing situation


So really out of four 4th quarter possessions you could really say they needed to run the ball more on one of them, and even that was in a borderline situation where a lot of coaches are going to abandon the run.

Yes they should have run more and yes they threw the ball twice as much as they ran in the end but 16 of those pass attempts were in the last 4 minutes when they were in an obvious passing situation.

Why Sermon?

Sermon's only rush in the 4th was after Taylor had just had 3 straight touches and 2 long runs and was presumably winded. Of course I can't say that 100%, but it's extremely common these days for a RB to come out for a blow after that. I didn't see the drive so I'm not even sure if Taylor asked to come off or not.

After that it was all passing situations so maybe they have decided to use Sermon as their passing down back. Maybe not a smart decision but again not uncommong to have a different back in there in passing situations. Is Sermon a better blocker? (genuinely asking, I have no idea the answer)

 

[JohnnyU]

Jonathan Taylor efficient in loss Sunday

Jonathan Taylor rushed the ball 12 times for 103 yards and caught two passes for 32 yards in Sunday's 16-10 loss to the Green Bay Packers.

Fantasy Impact

The Colts suffered a loss to the Packers on Sunday, but not much blame can be put on Taylor. He rushed for over 100 yards at an efficient clip of 8.6 yards per carry, but the team only gave him 14 touches over the course of the afternoon. He ended up having an decent outing for fantasy purposes, but the first couple of weeks of the season have proven that Anthony Richardson is a big point of frustration for the star running back's week-to-week production.

Anyone have any idea why the Colts suddenly stopped using Jonathan Taylor after 2 1/2 quarters?? I guess the script was for the Packers to win this one?? Literally makes no sense.

I watched the Steichen press conference and they pressed him on why Taylor wasn't in the game in the 4th qtr. His lame response was he wanted to give Sermon more reps. Nothing about whether it was a pass blocking issue or anything else. You can probably search for it in YouTube, so go watch it. IMO Steichen got lost in his thoughts with regards to who was playing RB, while concentrating on the passing game. He laid an egg in this game for sure.

I agree he probably should've gotten more but sometimes the game flow just works out the way it does. I think when we look at the possessions directly it's not as bad as it seems. They're 4th quarter possessions were...

Start of 4th, trailing 13-3
1st down: Taylor catches 18 yard pass
1st down: Taylor rips 29 yard run
1st down: 8yd pass
2nd and 2: Taylor gains 1 yard
3rd and 1: Sermon stuffed

So Taylor got the ball on 3 of the 5 plays, and I'm assuming he came out because he was tired after two long runs and then another carry

10min left in 4th, trailing 16-3
3 plays ending with ARich interception

This is really the one where they probably could/should have kept Taylor involved, but it's not that unusual for a team down multiple scores with under 10 mins left to not come out running

4 min left in 4th, trailing 16-3
Lots of passing, scored a TD

Obviously with 4 mins left and down two scores you've gotta come out throwing, and they scored their only TD of the game here so hard to fault them for it.

43 seconds left in 4th, trailing 16-10
Obvious passing situation


So really out of four 4th quarter possessions you could really say they needed to run the ball more on one of them, and even that was in a borderline situation where a lot of coaches are going to abandon the run.

Yes they should have run more and yes they threw the ball twice as much as they ran in the end but 16 of those pass attempts were in the last 4 minutes when they were in an obvious passing situation.

Why Sermon?

Sermon's only rush in the 4th was after Taylor had just had 3 straight touches and 2 long runs and was presumably winded. Of course I can't say that 100%, but it's extremely common these days for a RB to come out for a blow after that. I didn't see the drive so I'm not even sure if Taylor asked to come off or not.

After that it was all passing situations so maybe they have decided to use Sermon as their passing down back. Maybe not a smart decision but again not uncommong to have a different back in there in passing situations. Is Sermon a better blocker? (genuinely asking, I have no idea the answer)

Not much of an excuse to have Sermon playing the 4th qtr and not Taylor. The ONLY thing Steichen used in his press conference as an excuse was he wanted to give Sermon reps. He didn't even seem that enthused about his response That's all I'll say about it.

 

[zeeshan2]

Just as worried, if not more, than I was after week 1. I honestly thought Reich was back calling plays.

Colts 4th quarter RB snaps in Week 2:

Trey Sermon (14)
Tyler Goodson (8)
Jonathan Taylor (0)

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His pass blocking isn’t good

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[Hot Sauce Guy]

His pass blocking isn’t good

That's concerning considering the INDY defense has been hit with some key injuries (Buckner the most significant). If they're in more shootouts and JT isn't on the field for passing downs, yeah. Not great, Bob.

Still only 2 games in - things can improve quickly.

 

[JohnnyU]

Just as worried, if not more, than I was after week 1. I honestly thought Reich was back calling plays.

Colts 4th quarter RB snaps in Week 2:

Trey Sermon (14)
Tyler Goodson (8)
Jonathan Taylor (0)

x.com

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His pass blocking isn’t good

x.com

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Steichen was asked whether it was his pass blocking and he said no, but even if it was he wouldn’t say so.

 

[Big Nate]

This is the first I have heard of pass blocking issues for JT. Maybe he just had a rough play or 2.

 

[Buckna]

Just as worried, if not more, than I was after week 1. I honestly thought Reich was back calling plays.

Colts 4th quarter RB snaps in Week 2:

Trey Sermon (14)
Tyler Goodson (8)
Jonathan Taylor (0)

x.com

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His pass blocking isn’t good

x.com

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Hilarious example considering the left guard blew his own block completely and that's what forced the rushed throw for the INT.

Edit: Obviously Taylor was terrible there and maybe AR could have stepped up had he chipped better but the tweet is implying the INT was his fault which is laughable IMO

 

[JohnnyU]

In his press conference, when asked specifically about JT and pass protection, he said there wasn't an issue with JT pass protection, but according to the footballguys update, he now says it was the issue. What I want to know is where in this update does it say specifically Steichen had a change of heart and said this? To me it seems that FBGs is just implying Taylor didn't play because of pass protection, not that Steichen actually said it, because in the press conference he specifically said JT pass protection wasn't a problem.

Indianapolis Colts RB Jonathan Taylor's lack of playing time in the fourth quarter of Week 2 had mostly to do with pass protection, according to recent comments made by head coach Shane Steichen.

"We were down 16-3 with 10 minutes left, and we had the ball, wherever it was, on (our own) 30, and we had to go a little bit and throw it," Steichen said on Monday. "That's what happened. We were throwing the football." As Pro Football Focus' Nathan Jahnke noted, Taylor played in 43 of a possible 45 snaps in Week 1, including passing downs. This week, the story was different. Trey Sermon and Tyler Goodson split 18 snaps in the two-minute drill and played the majority of the third-down snaps. While Taylor still has RB1 upside any given week, it's fair to wonder if his ceiling won't be limited if this lack of work in the passing game persists.

Someone from FBGs please provide a link where Steichen changed what he said in the press conference after the game and then I'll believe what you are saying.

 

[FarFromHome]

Just hard to justify not having your best playmaker on your roster in the game in those moments. When you take your best playmaker out of the game do you think the defense is upset? Taylor is the one big concern as a coordinator. Let's just say he was out for poor pass protection, which I just can't see, but let's just say that was the reason. You think the defense then decides to rush less? No. They say, okay, best playmaker is out, let's really go after it. No one can convince me pulling Taylor was not just dumb football. Coach your players. Design plays to address weaknesses u see. Don't change personal to try to tape it together. Imo

 

[The Kerminator]

IMHO I'm leaning towards Taylor not being out there late in the game due to the hot weather. It was the second hottest game in Lambeau Field history. Reports were there were several linemen throwing up. I think it's just as plausible the heat was a factor as opposed to poor pass protection

 

[JoeJoe88]

IMHO I'm leaning towards Taylor not being out there late in the game due to the hot weather. It was the second hottest game in Lambeau Field history. Reports were there were several linemen throwing up. I think it's just as plausible the heat was a factor as opposed to poor pass protection

Does the heat not affect the other tailbacks?

 

[JohnnyU]

IMHO I'm leaning towards Taylor not being out there late in the game due to the hot weather. It was the second hottest game in Lambeau Field history. Reports were there were several linemen throwing up. I think it's just as plausible the heat was a factor as opposed to poor pass protection

Does the heat not affect the other tailbacks?

Yeah, I'm not buying that argument.

 

[Big Nate]

IMHO I'm leaning towards Taylor not being out there late in the game due to the hot weather. It was the second hottest game in Lambeau Field history. Reports were there were several linemen throwing up. I think it's just as plausible the heat was a factor as opposed to poor pass protection

Does the heat not affect the other tailbacks?

JT got a lot of work in the first half and the start of the 4th where the other RBs didn't. His case is plausible as above he did have a fair bit of work in the game where the other RBs were rested.

Having said that, in PHI, Shane would use Gainwell in some 2 min offenses but I would argue JT is a better RB than what PHI had at the time. Sometimes these coaches try to outsmart themselves - no idea why.

 

[Big Nate]

IMHO I'm leaning towards Taylor not being out there late in the game due to the hot weather. It was the second hottest game in Lambeau Field history. Reports were there were several linemen throwing up. I think it's just as plausible the heat was a factor as opposed to poor pass protection

Does the heat not affect the other tailbacks?

Yeah, I'm not buying that argument.

Not saying it is true in this case but, if the other backs didn't play and weren't dehydrated maybe they didn't feel the effects. Some guys might just be more dehydrated and bagged. It happens every game - add heat to it and it is very plausible.

 

[JohnnyU]

IMHO I'm leaning towards Taylor not being out there late in the game due to the hot weather. It was the second hottest game in Lambeau Field history. Reports were there were several linemen throwing up. I think it's just as plausible the heat was a factor as opposed to poor pass protection

Does the heat not affect the other tailbacks?

Yeah, I'm not buying that argument.

Not saying it is true in this case but, if the other backs didn't play and weren't dehydrated maybe they didn't feel the effects. Some guys might just be more dehydrated and bagged. It happens every game - add heat to it and it is very plausible.

I would have thought Steichen would have said it was heat related when asked why he didn't play in the fourth quarter.

 

[FarFromHome]

You play to win the games. To win the games you use your best players. Seems like simple logic.

 

[Chaka]

IMHO I'm leaning towards Taylor not being out there late in the game due to the hot weather. It was the second hottest game in Lambeau Field history. Reports were there were several linemen throwing up. I think it's just as plausible the heat was a factor as opposed to poor pass protection

Does the heat not affect the other tailbacks?

Not when they've been sitting on the bench under the fans for the previous 54 minutes. No, definitely not as much.

 

[nittanylion]

In his press conference, when asked specifically about JT and pass protection, he said there wasn't an issue with JT pass protection, but according to the footballguys update, he now says it was the issue. What I want to know is where in this update does it say specifically Steichen had a change of heart and said this? To me it seems that FBGs is just implying Taylor didn't play because of pass protection, not that Steichen actually said it, because in the press conference he specifically said JT pass protection wasn't a problem.

Indianapolis Colts RB Jonathan Taylor's lack of playing time in the fourth quarter of Week 2 had mostly to do with pass protection, according to recent comments made by head coach Shane Steichen.

"We were down 16-3 with 10 minutes left, and we had the ball, wherever it was, on (our own) 30, and we had to go a little bit and throw it," Steichen said on Monday. "That's what happened. We were throwing the football." As Pro Football Focus' Nathan Jahnke noted, Taylor played in 43 of a possible 45 snaps in Week 1, including passing downs. This week, the story was different. Trey Sermon and Tyler Goodson split 18 snaps in the two-minute drill and played the majority of the third-down snaps. While Taylor still has RB1 upside any given week, it's fair to wonder if his ceiling won't be limited if this lack of work in the passing game persists.

Someone from FBGs please provide a link where Steichen changed what he said in the press conference after the game and then I'll believe what you are saying.

@JohnnyU , not sure why you left this out, but if you want a response, JB is pretty active on the Board this year, and seems pretty good about following up.

Therefore, @Joe Bryant

 

[JohnnyU]

In his press conference, when asked specifically about JT and pass protection, he said there wasn't an issue with JT pass protection, but according to the footballguys update, he now says it was the issue. What I want to know is where in this update does it say specifically Steichen had a change of heart and said this? To me it seems that FBGs is just implying Taylor didn't play because of pass protection, not that Steichen actually said it, because in the press conference he specifically said JT pass protection wasn't a problem.

Indianapolis Colts RB Jonathan Taylor's lack of playing time in the fourth quarter of Week 2 had mostly to do with pass protection, according to recent comments made by head coach Shane Steichen.

"We were down 16-3 with 10 minutes left, and we had the ball, wherever it was, on (our own) 30, and we had to go a little bit and throw it," Steichen said on Monday. "That's what happened. We were throwing the football." As Pro Football Focus' Nathan Jahnke noted, Taylor played in 43 of a possible 45 snaps in Week 1, including passing downs. This week, the story was different. Trey Sermon and Tyler Goodson split 18 snaps in the two-minute drill and played the majority of the third-down snaps. While Taylor still has RB1 upside any given week, it's fair to wonder if his ceiling won't be limited if this lack of work in the passing game persists.

Someone from FBGs please provide a link where Steichen changed what he said in the press conference after the game and then I'll believe what you are saying.

@JohnnyU , not sure why you left this out, but if you want a response, JB is pretty active on the Board this year, and seems pretty good about following up.

Therefore, @Joe Bryant

Yes, I forgot

 

[Joe Bryant]

IND: Coaches explain lack of Jonathan Taylor late in Week 2​

Source: Indianapolis Star - Nate Atkins

Indianapolis Colts RB Jonathan Taylor's lack of playing time in the fourth quarter of Week 2 had mostly to do with pass protection, according to recent comments made by head coach Shane Steichen.

Our view: "We were down 16-3 with 10 minutes left, and we had the ball, wherever it was, on (our own) 30, and we had to go a little bit and throw it," Steichen said on Monday. "That's what happened. We were throwing the football." As Pro Football Focus' Nathan Jahnke noted, Taylor played in 43 of a possible 45 snaps in Week 1, including passing downs. This week, the story was different. Trey Sermon and Tyler Goodson split 18 snaps in the two-minute drill and played the majority of the third-down snaps. While Taylor still has RB1 upside any given week, it's fair to wonder if his ceiling won't be limited if this lack of work in the passing game persists.

The source for the story was linked in the blurb: https://x.com/NateAtkins_/status/1836090562648379565

Nate Atkins of the Indy Star wrote, "Jim Bob Cooter was asked why Jonathan Taylor didn’t play at all in the fourth quarter.He said Shane Steichen wanted to pass a lot there. And Steichen said pass pro was the key focus with no routes designed for the RBs."

A couple of things.

Steichen isn't going to throw his RB under the bus and tell the world he's not good as pass protection.

It's possible Steichen forgot Jonathan Taylor was on the team and he would have had him in the game if he'd remembered.

What we saw was coaches comment pass protection was the key focus and during that key focus, the team chose to have Taylor on the sideline.

We pay a lot of attention to what people actually do.

Like almost all the "our views" they are not things the coaches actually say. That wouldn't be "our view" then. They're things we interpret from watching the game and listening to the players and staff talk.

We don't know for a fact that's why Taylor sat. But it's what we think. For this one game.

The key part of the "Our View" blurb was the final sentence. "While Taylor still has RB1 upside any given week, it's fair to wonder if his ceiling won't be limited if this lack of work in the passing game persists." I stand by that 100%.

He's our RB 10 this week right now. https://www.footballguys.com/rankings/duration/weekly?pos=rb

Feels about right.

 

[Joe Bryant]

"While Taylor still has RB1 upside any given week, it's fair to wonder if his ceiling won't be limited if this lack of work in the passing game persists."

And I'll add, I sure hope it does not persist. I told a zillion people to draft Taylor as a top RB. https://www.footballguys.com/rankings/duration/preseason?pos=rb

 

[JohnnyU]

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IND: Coaches explain lack of Jonathan Taylor late in Week 2​

Source: Indianapolis Star - Nate Atkins

Indianapolis Colts RB Jonathan Taylor's lack of playing time in the fourth quarter of Week 2 had mostly to do with pass protection, according to recent comments made by head coach Shane Steichen.

Our view: "We were down 16-3 with 10 minutes left, and we had the ball, wherever it was, on (our own) 30, and we had to go a little bit and throw it," Steichen said on Monday. "That's what happened. We were throwing the football." As Pro Football Focus' Nathan Jahnke noted, Taylor played in 43 of a possible 45 snaps in Week 1, including passing downs. This week, the story was different. Trey Sermon and Tyler Goodson split 18 snaps in the two-minute drill and played the majority of the third-down snaps. While Taylor still has RB1 upside any given week, it's fair to wonder if his ceiling won't be limited if this lack of work in the passing game persists.

The source for the story was linked in the blurb: https://x.com/NateAtkins_/status/1836090562648379565

Nate Atkins of the Indy Star wrote, "Jim Bob Cooter was asked why Jonathan Taylor didn’t play at all in the fourth quarter.He said Shane Steichen wanted to pass a lot there. And Steichen said pass pro was the key focus with no routes designed for the RBs."

A couple of things.

Steichen isn't going to throw his RB under the bus and tell the world he's not good as pass protection.

It's possible Steichen forgot Jonathan Taylor was on the team and he would have had him in the game if he'd remembered.

What we saw was coaches comment pass protection was the key focus and during that key focus, the team chose to have Taylor on the sideline.

We pay a lot of attention to what people actually do.

Like almost all the "our views" they are not things the coaches actually say. That wouldn't be "our view" then. They're things we interpret from watching the game and listening to the players and staff talk.

We don't know for a fact that's why Taylor sat. But it's what we think. For this one game.

The key part of the "Our View" blurb was the final sentence. "While Taylor still has RB1 upside any given week, it's fair to wonder if his ceiling won't be limited if this lack of work in the passing game persists." I stand by that 100%.

He's our RB 10 this week right now. https://www.footballguys.com/rankings/duration/weekly?pos=rb

Feels about right.

Thanks, but the Update said, Indianapolis Colts RB Jonathan Taylor's lack of playing time in the fourth quarter of Week 2 had mostly to do with pass protection, according to recent comments made by head coach Shane Steichen.

I suppose you can read what he said about pass pro being the key focus and not specifically mentioning JT, and take that to mean JT sucks at it, but to me this falls short of implying Steichen meant JT is poor at pass protection. I think Steichen just forgot about JT since the RBs were not part of the passing game plan in the 4th.

 

[Chaka]

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IND: Coaches explain lack of Jonathan Taylor late in Week 2​

Source: Indianapolis Star - Nate Atkins

Indianapolis Colts RB Jonathan Taylor's lack of playing time in the fourth quarter of Week 2 had mostly to do with pass protection, according to recent comments made by head coach Shane Steichen.

Our view: "We were down 16-3 with 10 minutes left, and we had the ball, wherever it was, on (our own) 30, and we had to go a little bit and throw it," Steichen said on Monday. "That's what happened. We were throwing the football." As Pro Football Focus' Nathan Jahnke noted, Taylor played in 43 of a possible 45 snaps in Week 1, including passing downs. This week, the story was different. Trey Sermon and Tyler Goodson split 18 snaps in the two-minute drill and played the majority of the third-down snaps. While Taylor still has RB1 upside any given week, it's fair to wonder if his ceiling won't be limited if this lack of work in the passing game persists.

The source for the story was linked in the blurb: https://x.com/NateAtkins_/status/1836090562648379565

Nate Atkins of the Indy Star wrote, "Jim Bob Cooter was asked why Jonathan Taylor didn’t play at all in the fourth quarter.He said Shane Steichen wanted to pass a lot there. And Steichen said pass pro was the key focus with no routes designed for the RBs."

A couple of things.

Steichen isn't going to throw his RB under the bus and tell the world he's not good as pass protection.

It's possible Steichen forgot Jonathan Taylor was on the team and he would have had him in the game if he'd remembered.

What we saw was coaches comment pass protection was the key focus and during that key focus, the team chose to have Taylor on the sideline.

We pay a lot of attention to what people actually do.

Like almost all the "our views" they are not things the coaches actually say. That wouldn't be "our view" then. They're things we interpret from watching the game and listening to the players and staff talk.

We don't know for a fact that's why Taylor sat. But it's what we think. For this one game.

The key part of the "Our View" blurb was the final sentence. "While Taylor still has RB1 upside any given week, it's fair to wonder if his ceiling won't be limited if this lack of work in the passing game persists." I stand by that 100%.

He's our RB 10 this week right now. https://www.footballguys.com/rankings/duration/weekly?pos=rb

Feels about right.

Thanks, but the Update said, Indianapolis Colts RB Jonathan Taylor's lack of playing time in the fourth quarter of Week 2 had mostly to do with pass protection, according to recent comments made by head coach Shane Steichen.

I suppose you can read what he said about pass pro being the key focus and not specifically mentioning JT, and take that to mean JT sucks at it, but to me this falls short of implying Steichen meant JT is poor at pass protection

I think it's pretty clear from JB's post that there is good reason to infer from Steichen's comments that JT wasn't in due to pass pro concerns.

The context provided by the OC makes it a pretty easy inference.

 

[taylormeetstheismann]

I’m not remotely worried about JTaylor.

 

[Big Nate]

I’m not remotely worried about JTaylor.

He's going to get the work. I'm not worried either.

 

[DeaLerZ]

You play to win the games. To win the games you use your best players. Seems like simple logic.

Right or if you are playing to lose you take them out lol

 

[Faust]

Colts RB Jonathan Taylor defends coach after 4th-quarter absence

 

[Payne]

Maybe here is an idea for the coaching staff, dump a few screens to him to alleviate that pass rush.

I don't think the video above proves he isn't good at pass blocking. That wasn't awful.
I think the play calling has been awful and Richardson just runs instead of dumping off. That is a concern.

 

[WaltonGoggins]

AR is looking like a bust every team is going to stack the line and force AR to beat you with the pass so far he hasn't remotely shown he can do that. Won't be able to throw up and complete jump balls like he did vs Texans week 1. I can't see how Taylor can be a top tier back as long as teams focus on stopping him and not respect the pass. He's highly ranked week 3 so they are saying regardless of all of this he can't be contained even with defenses focused on him.

 

[menobrown]

Can't believe Stiechen benched him for an entire quarter. Got a lot of trust in him but he brain farts/overthinks every now and then. I feel like he'll reassess his poor decision making and we won't see this kind of misuse again.

 

[JohnnyU]

Can't believe Stiechen benched him for an entire quarter. Got a lot of trust in him but he brain farts/overthinks every now and then. I feel like he'll reassess his poor decision making and we won't see this kind of misuse again.

Never underestimate someone who thinks they are smarter than the room.

 

[Payne]

Good stat line but I'm still concerned. Is an afterthought in the passing game. That is going to limit him.

 

[Big Nate]

Good stat line but I'm still concerned. Is an afterthought in the passing game. That is going to limit him.

I suggest trading him if you are still concerned. This is what he will be. Back to back 100 yard rushing games. Game 1 96% snap share, game 2 was an odd 4th qtr, then he bounced back with 88% snap share in game 3.

He got 23 carries and scored 2 TDs. Richardson only threw the ball 20 times. Not a lot of passes to go around for anyone. If you are concerned about targets then you might want to trade him away.

 

[Faust]

@ColtsTopic
Jonathan Taylor today:

• 24 touches
• 132 yards
• 4.8 average
• 2 touchdowns

He surpasses Marshall Faulk at #4 for All-Time Rushing Touchdowns (43) in #Colts history.

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[Payne]

Good stat line but I'm still concerned. Is an afterthought in the passing game. That is going to limit him.

I suggest trading him if you are still concerned. This is what he will be. Back to back 100 yard rushing games. Game 1 96% snap share, game 2 was an odd 4th qtr, then he bounced back with 88% snap share in game 3.

He got 23 carries and scored 2 TDs. Richardson only threw the ball 20 times. Not a lot of passes to go around for anyone. If you are concerned about targets then you might want to trade him away.

You're missing the point. Not going to trade him. Nobody really to trade him for.

However, I was expecting more usage in the passing game and I don't love the play calling.

 

[Chaka]

Six targets over the last two games going 3-57-0

Saquon has nine targets over the last two games going 8-30

Bijan has seven going 6-46

Gibbs has seven, zero this last game but still 20 yards, going 7-44-1

The surprising one is Breece Hall who has 13 targets over the last two games goin 11-83-1

I think JT is going to be fine with his passing numbers.

 

[TampaMike19]

Six targets over the last two games going 3-57-0

Saquon has nine targets over the last two games going 8-30

Bijan has seven going 6-46

Gibbs has seven, zero this last game but still 20 yards, going 7-44-1

The surprising one is Breece Hall who has 13 targets over the last two games goin 11-83-1

I think JT is going to be fine with his passing numbers.

Making the most of his targets no doubt. In ppr would rather him move some of the rushing to the ppr scam receptions but 3.5 points from receiving alone is pretty good!

 

[floods]

Six targets over the last two games going 3-57-0

Saquon has nine targets over the last two games going 8-30

Bijan has seven going 6-46

Gibbs has seven, zero this last game but still 20 yards, going 7-44-1

The surprising one is Breece Hall who has 13 targets over the last two games goin 11-83-1

I think JT is going to be fine with his passing numbers.

The biggest concern with JT's passing numbers is his target quality, even at a low ADOT. I'm beating a dead horse, but Richardson has shown poor accuracy this season.

 

[Big Nate]

Good stat line but I'm still concerned. Is an afterthought in the passing game. That is going to limit him.

I suggest trading him if you are still concerned. This is what he will be. Back to back 100 yard rushing games. Game 1 96% snap share, game 2 was an odd 4th qtr, then he bounced back with 88% snap share in game 3.

He got 23 carries and scored 2 TDs. Richardson only threw the ball 20 times. Not a lot of passes to go around for anyone. If you are concerned about targets then you might want to trade him away.

You're missing the point. Not going to trade him. Nobody really to trade him for.

However, I was expecting more usage in the passing game and I don't love the play calling.

Fun fact I heard from Dwayne McFarlane is he was out there for something like 90% of the passing plays. I never expected a ton of dump-offs from a running QB. But the threat of him running takes a bit of heat off Taylor. Maybe they can work some screens in or swing passes to JT to let him work. He's running well with the ball in his hands.