Godsbrother
Footballguy
It looks to me like a full RBBC for the Steelers in the early part of the season cause Gainwell is also going to get snaps
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MAC_32
Footballguy
Jaylen Warren's career high in touches is 210, so this should be expected. Health will likely dictate ultimately, but the earliest this backfield takes shape is probably after the bye.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
KJ fell pretty low in my redraft: pick 9.2, I'm not expecting much to be honest
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yeah, I’ve read this a few times this preseason and yet there are some projecting Warren to be some high volume starter? I’m not seeing it.
RBBC is the most likely outcome here, but based on fit and draft capital I expect KJ to finish the year as more of a focal point. If he doesn’t, the Steelers lit a pick on fire.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
3rd Round draft capital isn't really a lot. The player that fits plays. And if Johnson can't protect Rodgers on passing plays... then Warren gets the snap
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
It’s a lot for a RB in the YooL 2025
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Not to argue but 3rd rounder for an RB is more of journeyman status. Ofcourse there are some hits but in general 3rd rounders are bodies
DraftHistory.com
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Lloyd was certainly expected to be good, as was Kendre Miller.
Not to argue but 3rd rounder for an RB is more of journeyman status. Ofcourse there are some hits but in general 3rd rounders are bodies
DraftHistory.com
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Achane, Beneon, Spears, Charbs, Bigsby, Rachaad White, BRob, Monty, Henderson, Moss - all drafted with high expectations.
Just because they don’t all hit doesn’t diminish the fact that they were all taken in the 3rd round and all were expected to be impact players for their respective teams at the time they were drafted.
IMO 3rd round is still considered a big investment at RB since we’re in a day and age where they’re devalued.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
For whatever it does for your KJ calculus, they just gave Warren a 2 year extension...
There was always going to be “someone” there alongside Johnson. I’d rather it be an extended Warren than a possible 1st-3rd round running back drafted over the next 2-3 years. I think this is a net neutral for Johnson. He either takes the job, or he doesn’t. Warren shouldn’t impact that.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Lloyd was certainly expected to be good, as was Kendre Miller.
Not to argue but 3rd rounder for an RB is more of journeyman status. Ofcourse there are some hits but in general 3rd rounders are bodies
DraftHistory.com
Achane, Beneon, Spears, Charbs, Bigsby, Rachaad White, BRob, Monty, Henderson, Moss - all drafted with high expectations.
Just because they don’t all hit doesn’t diminish the fact that they were all taken in the 3rd round and all were expected to be impact players for their respective teams at the time they were drafted.
IMO 3rd round is still considered a big investment at RB since we’re in a day and age where they’re devalued.
Charbs was a mid 2nd
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Ah, so he was. My greater point stands.Lloyd was certainly expected to be good, as was Kendre Miller.
Not to argue but 3rd rounder for an RB is more of journeyman status. Ofcourse there are some hits but in general 3rd rounders are bodies
DraftHistory.com
Achane, Beneon, Spears, Charbs, Bigsby, Rachaad White, BRob, Monty, Henderson, Moss - all drafted with high expectations.
Just because they don’t all hit doesn’t diminish the fact that they were all taken in the 3rd round and all were expected to be impact players for their respective teams at the time they were drafted.
IMO 3rd round is still considered a big investment at RB since we’re in a day and age where they’re devalued.
Charbs was a mid 2nd
FarFromHome
Footballguy
No injury so it actually could have went worse.
dipandglide
Footballguy
I'm glad I don't have any shares in redraft. A few more games like this might open a cheap buy window in dynasty
JJ Zachariason (@lateroundqb.bsky.social)
James Conner saw a 60% running back rush share in Week 1, getting 12 attempts to Trey Benson's 8. He averaged a 71.3% running back rush share per game rate in games last year where he wasn't on the injury report.
bsky.app
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
dipandglide
Footballguy
What are local Steelers fans hearing? Is this an Arthur Smith thing? Arog? Is there any hope for production this year?
VikingFrog
Footballguy
I’m hoping we see a little more action this weekend. I have him and Najee on the end of my bench as the first to drop or move. And I’d love to see him get some more snaps to at least see what he can do. That whole Steelers/Jets game played out entirely different than I thought.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I have a share in dynasty. I’m not thrilled with my return so far.
Etienne wins easy here
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
I’m not going to panic and I’m not going to start him until I see a reason to do so.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
The Steelers running game was atrocious last week. If it continues to suck Johnson is going to get his chance.
If you have the roster space I think he is worth holding on to just to see how this RBBC situation unfolds.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
One of the worst Week 1 I've seen from a pretty highly drafted RB
Why did the Steelers take him if they can't use him?
They ended up on the wrong side of Derrick Henry, landing to their division arch rivals, and yet they don't go and make their RB1 a Superstar, piece mailed
Do they not seem to remember when Bettis was there? They didn't draft Bettis
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
7th round start-up. And a future pick.
H8fulHuck
Footballguy
Watching the OLine struggles, I’d say any RB who can pick up blocks better gets more PT. Jets won the battle in the trenches and Rodgers taking the game personal was the reason Pittsburgh won.
Maybe the line plays better and Kaleb can get going now that Rodgers beat his former team.
Maybe the line plays better and Kaleb can get going now that Rodgers beat his former team.
dipandglide
Footballguy
You'd have to guess KJ would start slow once Arog came aboard. No way they're going to trust a rookie RB right out of the gate. This feels like a good buy low if he continues to sit on the pine another week or two or is dropped in redraft leagues
J Giles Band
Footballguy
I'd say the fumble on the kick return had a good bit to do with it as well... Jets win otherwise.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Not.
A.
Good.
Look.
A.
Good.
Look.
I'd make him inactive next week.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Wanted the team to select Tuten with that pick when they made it. Want it at least twice as much now.
I mean, the right pick was Skattebo. He absolutely SCREAMS Steelers RB.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Looks like it's gonna be more whisky time on this guy
Last time I saw a RB in the mix to get snaps and look this poor with limited touches...
Well I'm sure it will come to me at the bottom of the next
Godsbrother
Footballguy
What a bonehead
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Slow? Yeah, can't argue that pretty much tracks the last half dozen or so years for sure.
Looks like it's gonna be more whisky time on this guy
Last time I saw a RB in the mix to get snaps and look this poor with limited touches...
Well I'm sure it will come to me at the bottom of the next
Ronald Jones, never seen an early 2nd round RB look that bad on a handful of touches. Somehow managed to remain with Tampa for a few years. Took him over Chubb but I guess it could have been just as bad with Guice, Michel, or Penny.
Taking everything into consideration, he seems like a bust, even in dynasty. Can’t play ahead of Kenneth gainwell, bad fumbles on kickoffs multiple times, signing Jaylen Warren to a 2 year deal before the season started, negative press during camp. It seems like the Steelers know they made a mistake already, and that is evidenced by their actions.
I posted this earlier but if the Jags had taken the Steelers offer to trade out of round 3 I think the Giants would have taken Kaleb over Skatt in part because they employ Kaleb's position coach from Iowa as their new RB coach. Or maybe the coach knew he was a knucklehead, we'll never know, but it's what I think would have happened.
I tried telling people that Kaleb's draft stock was NOT high and they were willing to pass him late round 3 and likely see him fall into round 4 and let somone else pick him. Everyone seemed to just want to hush that up and pretend he got high draft stock and grade a lot of this years RB's draft stock this year on a curve by how deep the class is but that never made sense to me in the context of we just saw 2 RB's go in round one, 4 in the top 40 overall and 5 total in first two rounds.
Anyway I've never wished the Jags would have taken that trade more then I did yesterday to avoid Kaleb but also to open up possibilty of Tuten, who they seemed to have interest in and who I'd prefer over Skatt by a whopping amount.
karl.Racki
Footballguy
I never understood why things like this don't get you cut? Imagine going to work, and losing a contract for your employer.
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