ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
I think that's a fake account. He says he's a reporter for "the Sun Sentinel" but he's not actually listed as a staffer at the South Florida Sun Sentinel
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RB Kareem Hunt, KC (2 Viewers)
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This guy barely has over 1,000 followers, not verified, is he remotely credible?
Feel like he's seeing the Hunt/Tyreek IG lovefest this morning and just making up stuff for the follows.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
I hear he's tight with Adam Shefter, Chris Mortenson and Ian Rapppaport
Agree.
Would make that RB so much better. Loved Mostert when he was in SF, but hurt a lot and he's just not a lead back type. So so as a pass catcher. Hunt would add another dynamic. Edmonds would join Gaskin in the inactive room.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Says he works for the Sun Sentnel in Ft Laud but he's not listed on their website so yeah I think some folks got duped on this one but as a Miami fan I hope Hunt is acquired.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Hunt managers: Where do you think is the best landing spot in terms of maximizing his '22 redraft production?
Rams is probably best path to a workload, but terrible o-line and seemingly dysfunctional offense.
KC is best offense, but crowded backfield (and of course it's unlikely to happen given his history)
Miami is also a good offense/crowded backfield
Buffalo would seem to be the best spot. He'd lose some touches to Singletary and passing-down naps to Cook, but I think he's a clear upgrade over those options. Haven't heard them mentioned in any recent rumors, though
Who else?
Rams is probably best path to a workload, but terrible o-line and seemingly dysfunctional offense.
KC is best offense, but crowded backfield (and of course it's unlikely to happen given his history)
Miami is also a good offense/crowded backfield
Buffalo would seem to be the best spot. He'd lose some touches to Singletary and passing-down naps to Cook, but I think he's a clear upgrade over those options. Haven't heard them mentioned in any recent rumors, though
Who else?
Id take any of them over CLE. Philly is the other one you forgot.
MAC_32
Footballguy
He's a great #2, but he's not a legit #1. His style of play (violent runner with passing game chops) is most effective when tasked with his current workload. He can shoulder the load in small bursts if necessary, but I would not want him as my horse (i.e. Rams). If the Eagles make the best offer then I love his fit on that team.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
One of the beat writers covered the roles of the backup RBs, can't recall if Ford or Johnson would be the best complimentary back to Chubb as the other was more of a true backup to Chubb with similar skill set.
Chubb in the role of a true runner, fantastic GL scorer and threat to take it the distance but not as deft catching the ball. He also has turned into a fine blocker but isn't asked to take on that role with Hunt in the mix.
Have to think that D'Ernest Johnson with a few years under his belt knows blitz pickups better than the rookie Jerome Ford but as I noted, next year D'Ernest is a FA and the Browns will be eating the full DeShuan Watson contract so IF Hunt gets dealt then that is a pure mercenary salary cap move since he will also be a FA next year and they can recoup a draft since he wasn't drafted and wouldn't be eligible for the Browns to receive a compensatory draft pick.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Well yeah if you've got a Nick Chubb then Hunt a great #2 RB but he can carry the load if asked but who sits Nick Chubb or limit Chubb? No one.
In the past three years, Hunt has gotten 14 or more carries in 8 games.
The Browns won 7 of those 8 games.
He may not be a purebred and look pretty but he is without a doubt a violent and effective running back.
Houston turmOiler
Footballguy
Ford had comps to Hunt by some talent evaluators if I recall. Johnson carried the load in a couple of games last season with Chubb and Hunt out and did well. But I believe Ford is on IR right now, FWIW...
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Can’t see him going to any afc rivals, especially within the division. maybe chargers. NFC seems most likely with maybe the falcons or rams
MAC_32
Footballguy
No disagreement here, but is that meaningfully different than someone like James Robinson, Jamaal Williams, or Alexander Mattison?
Stat Correction
Footballguy
Yes. None of those guys could carry Hunt's jockstrap IMHO.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Yes, you're right. Not sure how I feel about Philly. Of all the teams mentioned, Sanders is probably the best incumbent, plus Hurts steals a lot of GL touches. Also wonder if they would look to preserve him for the playoffs. But that offense is a juggernaut.
Agree that any of these would be an upgrade over Cleveland
Stat Correction
Footballguy
....or, perhaps a trade doesn't happen afterall
That would suck but probably the end result
I am way late here, but biggest clue here is that Miami doesn’t have their 1st in 2023. It was forfeited as part of the owners tampering punishment. They do own SF’s 1st, though you’d think that would have been specified more clearly if this was more than rumor.
skinsrule05
Footballguy
This. It would be a huge level of mismanagement to get nothing just so you can finish strong in a five win season.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
He’s active
Chaka
Footballguy
Johnny Utah #9
Footballguy
The fact that this guy is active means they most likely don’t even have the tentative framework of a deal in place.
Unless something happens tomorrow at the last minute, which is doubtful at this point, looks like he’s staying put. Of course it makes zero sense for the Browns from a roster management perspective, especially for a team starved for picks after trading a boatload for the masseuse enthusiast.
But as a well-known TikTok influencer once said, “The Browns is the Browns.”
Unless something happens tomorrow at the last minute, which is doubtful at this point, looks like he’s staying put. Of course it makes zero sense for the Browns from a roster management perspective, especially for a team starved for picks after trading a boatload for the masseuse enthusiast.
But as a well-known TikTok influencer once said, “The Browns is the Browns.”
yellowdog
Footballguy
We'll have to see how much he plays.
dmac37
Footballguy
I think his best fantasy value return is with the Dolphins, at least that is what I'm hoping for. Here is the order in my preferences.
Dolphins- quickly becomes the lead dog there, complete RB that is a better runner than Mostert and a better receiver than Edmonds
Falcons- offense showing a pulse, currently in the mix and in need of a professional RB
Rams- was always my first choice but losing faith in this team for 2022
Eagles- I would think he becomes the 1A to Sanders 1B, shared volume in a high powered offense
Dolphins- quickly becomes the lead dog there, complete RB that is a better runner than Mostert and a better receiver than Edmonds
Falcons- offense showing a pulse, currently in the mix and in need of a professional RB
Rams- was always my first choice but losing faith in this team for 2022
Eagles- I would think he becomes the 1A to Sanders 1B, shared volume in a high powered offense
Mind blowing if they get nothing in return for this guy; at least trade Johnson who is also a FA at year’s end. Perplexing
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Burrow 1 Int vs Cooper 1 Int
Seems almost featured WTF
skinsrule05
Footballguy
It is odd. I really thought he would be inactive or they run him into the ground to show him off. Instead so far it’s his normal role. Does seem like trading him isn’t a thought.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
My guess is because teams just aren't offering anything.
Johnny Utah #9
Footballguy
It’s bad enough that they didn’t bubble wrap Hunt, the fact that they are going to win this game is going to give the Browns brass some delusional belief they can still make the playoffs and they need to keep Hunt for their run to glory.
themeistersinger
Footballguy
I think it's enough of a strain on the coaching staff just to try to win the game and save their own jobs. What the GM does with Hunt is not on their mind at all tonight.
With Hunt playing tonight in his regular role, it pretty much assures that he is not being traded.
This franchise really is clueless and run so poorly, now for decades. Going to lose two assets at RB in the off season
Hunt and Johnson and get nothing in return. I am thinking the GM/owner believe if they can be around .500 when Watson comes back week13
they can make a push for the playoffs and make some noise.
This team is now 3-5, granted they still have an outside chance to make the playoffs with there being 3 wildcards now.
This franchise really is clueless and run so poorly, now for decades. Going to lose two assets at RB in the off season
Hunt and Johnson and get nothing in return. I am thinking the GM/owner believe if they can be around .500 when Watson comes back week13
they can make a push for the playoffs and make some noise.
This team is now 3-5, granted they still have an outside chance to make the playoffs with there being 3 wildcards now.
fatness
Footballguy
Patterson will be back soon.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Interesting point
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Been active the last 5 games, mostly STs He’s a 4-phase STer so typically gets 14-17 ST snaps /wk. Before last night, only 10 offensive snaps, 9 vs Pats (2 receptions.) The 4 Carries were indeed his first of the year and might mean something.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
I have Chubb and my take was give D'Ernest a few carries just in case Hunt got traded, never really thought that D'Ernest could be. Seems absurd really. Salaries play a significant role and CLE could stand and improve with the right trade offer for Hunt. With CLE on a bye at least there won't be much interest in D'Ernest unless he's the trade candidate. If Hunt goes I may start the handcuff process. Was hoping to get through a few more bye weeks rolling that dice. We'll see.
3nOut
Footballguy
It is not obvious what their plans are. I don't live in LA and perhaps there is talk already there as to how he would be used. I would assume that he would get most of the carries, but thats not necessarily a given. If you have a concrete answer, simply answer the question. If you only have an opinion, simply share it. No need to be so smug. Don't be that guy.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Yeah, it means it was a blowout win.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
<sigh>
3nOut
Footballguy
I was hoping he'd get moved as well, but having him as a handcuff for Chubb for the rest of the season isn't all that bad either. He still has some flex appeal as well. It's better than him being traded to a place that hurts the value of some of my other RBs I have rostered. Could have been much worse.Well, that sucks
Can someone please explain the Browns rationale for keeping Chubb? He’s a FA at the end of the year and they have a very capable backup in Johnson. Cle fans should be incredibly frustrated knowing that this off-season they will most likely lose Hunt and Johnson to FA and get basically nothing in return. At 3-5, this move is incredibly perplexing.
