RB Le'Veon Bell, FA - 9.6.21 Workout For Baltimore (1 Viewer)

[Faust]

Le'Veon Bell - RB - Steelers

NFL suspended Steelers RB Le'Veon Bell three games for violating the league's substance-abuse policy.

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter

Apr 9 - 9:36 AM

 

[Faust]

Pittsburgh Steelers' Le'Veon Bell facing suspension:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000484455/article/pittsburgh-steelers-leveon-bell-facing-suspension

 

[beef]

This was known to happen. Maybe get reduced.

 

[TDorBust]

This was known to happen. Maybe get reduced.

Think he learned from AP and that he should jump through the NFL hoops? Or does he try to give the finger to the NFL office and get away with it?

 

[AngryPatriot]

yeah, bump DeAngelo for 3 games! Stone cold lead pipe lock!

 

[VarsityBlues123]

yeah, bump DeAngelo for 3 games! Stone cold lead pipe lock!

im not so sure about that. why does everyone think the back up is always as good to get the stud starter stats just because they are the backup? i think he will be lucky to be startable those first three weeks. if anything big ben will throw it 60 times a game until bell gets back. dwill is old and just not good anymore.

 

[Shutout]

yeah, bump DeAngelo for 3 games! Stone cold lead pipe lock!

im not so sure about that. why does everyone think the back up is always as good to get the stud starter stats just because they are the backup? i think he will be lucky to be startable those first three weeks. if anything big ben will throw it 60 times a game until bell gets back. dwill is old and just not good anymore.

Because, by definition, that is what his job is. It is like when Foster went down, people were interested in the backup, not trying to manufacture a case for some guy signed off the street in a pinch.

 

[cstu]

Anyone feel like Bell is a major sell-high?

Last year was amazing, but he now has an ADP in the top 10 overall.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Anyone feel like Bell is a major sell-high?

Last year was amazing, but he now has an ADP in the top 10 overall.

I'm trying to buy him right now. He is their #2 receiving option (apologies to Martavius or Miller) and this is going to be a/the top passing offense in the league.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Anyone feel like Bell is a major sell-high?

Last year was amazing, but he now has an ADP in the top 10 overall.

I'm trying to buy him right now. He is their #2 receiving option (apologies to Martavius or Miller) and this is going to be a/the top passing offense in the league.

I am holding due to the baren nature of the dynasty RB landscape, but there is cause for concern when you look at the history of 3-down RBs who had very good receiving years. Here are the 3-down workhorse RBs of the last ~10 years that had a season with 70+ receptions. Most of these guys are good receiving backs, like Bell.

• Ladainian Tomlinson - Caught 100 passes in 2003. Followed it up with just 53 receptions in 2004 and never eclipsed 60 receptions again for the rest of his career.
• Steven Jackson - Caught 90 passes in 2006. Followed it up with just 38 receptions in 2007 (12 games played) and never eclipsed 51 receptions again for the rest of his career.
• Jamaal Charles - Caught 70 passes in 2013. Followed it up with 40 receptions in 2014.
• LeSean McCoy - Had 78 receptions in 2010. Followed it up with 48 receptions in 2011 and has a career best of 54 receptions since then.
• Ray Rice - Caught 78 passes in 2009. Had 63 the next year in 2010. He did have another 70+ season (76) in 2011.

Matt Forte bucked the trend this year, following up his 74 reception season in 2013 with 102 in 2014. Brian Westbrook, while erratic, also put together multiple 70+ seasons. None the less, for the most part a RB that has a big receiving year early in his career has pretty severely regressed in terms of receiving numbers going forward. There's no guarantee that Bell doesn't settle into the 35-55 receptions range for the remainder of his career like LT, SJax, Charles, and McCoy all did before him. In fact, history tells us that it's rather likely.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Anyone feel like Bell is a major sell-high?

Last year was amazing, but he now has an ADP in the top 10 overall.

He's currently going 4th overall per DLF, and is a full round ahead of RB2 (Lacy) and two full rounds ahead of RBs 3/4 (Charles / McCoy). IMO any time any player (particularly a RB -- position is just sooo volatile) has nowhere to go but down I'm open to getting out at the max. Not saying I see a crash at all, but he'd bring an absolute king's ransom right now, and I'd at least be seeing what I could get.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Anyone feel like Bell is a major sell-high?

Last year was amazing, but he now has an ADP in the top 10 overall.

I'm trying to buy him right now. He is their #2 receiving option (apologies to Martavius or Miller) and this is going to be a/the top passing offense in the league.

I am holding due to the baren nature of the dynasty RB landscape, but there is cause for concern when you look at the history of 3-down RBs who had very good receiving years. Here are the 3-down workhorse RBs of the last ~10 years that had a season with 70+ receptions. Most of these guys are good receiving backs, like Bell.

• Ladainian Tomlinson - Caught 100 passes in 2003. Followed it up with just 53 receptions in 2004 and never eclipsed 60 receptions again for the rest of his career.
• Steven Jackson - Caught 90 passes in 2006. Followed it up with just 38 receptions in 2007 (12 games played) and never eclipsed 51 receptions again for the rest of his career.
• Jamaal Charles - Caught 70 passes in 2013. Followed it up with 40 receptions in 2014.
• LeSean McCoy - Had 78 receptions in 2010. Followed it up with 48 receptions in 2011 and has a career best of 54 receptions since then.
• Ray Rice - Caught 78 passes in 2009. Had 63 the next year in 2010. He did have another 70+ season (76) in 2011.

Matt Forte bucked the trend this year, following up his 74 reception season in 2013 with 102 in 2014. Brian Westbrook, while erratic, also put together multiple 70+ seasons. None the less, for the most part a RB that has a big receiving year early in his career has pretty severely regressed in terms of receiving numbers going forward. There's no guarantee that Bell doesn't settle into the 35-55 receptions range for the remainder of his career like LT, SJax, Charles, and McCoy all did before him. In fact, history tells us that it's rather likely.

Yeah a simple injury to any various positions can change everything. Like Bell not playing 4 games (that's almost a guaranteed 25% drop off).

I'm good with you playing the odds and trends and regressions.

But I have to sit here and rank and judge -- and I have that offense as the tip-top 2 or 3 in the league. And Bell as the #1 rushing option and #2 receiving option.

 

[cstu]

Anyone feel like Bell is a major sell-high?

Last year was amazing, but he now has an ADP in the top 10 overall.

He's currently going 4th overall per DLF, and is a full round ahead of RB2 (Lacy) and two full rounds ahead of RBs 3/4 (Charles / McCoy). IMO any time any player (particularly a RB -- position is just sooo volatile) has nowhere to go but down I'm open to getting out at the max. Not saying I see a crash at all, but he'd bring an absolute king's ransom right now, and I'd at least be seeing what I could get.

Exactly. I see him going ahead of Julio, which is crazy to me.

 

[Winning IS Everything]

Anyone feel like Bell is a major sell-high?

Last year was amazing, but he now has an ADP in the top 10 overall.

I'm trying to buy him right now. He is their #2 receiving option (apologies to Martavius or Miller) and this is going to be a/the top passing offense in the league.

I am holding due to the baren nature of the dynasty RB landscape, but there is cause for concern when you look at the history of 3-down RBs who had very good receiving years. Here are the 3-down workhorse RBs of the last ~10 years that had a season with 70+ receptions. Most of these guys are good receiving backs, like Bell.

• Ladainian Tomlinson - Caught 100 passes in 2003. Followed it up with just 53 receptions in 2004 and never eclipsed 60 receptions again for the rest of his career.
• Steven Jackson - Caught 90 passes in 2006. Followed it up with just 38 receptions in 2007 (12 games played) and never eclipsed 51 receptions again for the rest of his career.
• Jamaal Charles - Caught 70 passes in 2013. Followed it up with 40 receptions in 2014.
• LeSean McCoy - Had 78 receptions in 2010. Followed it up with 48 receptions in 2011 and has a career best of 54 receptions since then.
• Ray Rice - Caught 78 passes in 2009. Had 63 the next year in 2010. He did have another 70+ season (76) in 2011.

Matt Forte bucked the trend this year, following up his 74 reception season in 2013 with 102 in 2014. Brian Westbrook, while erratic, also put together multiple 70+ seasons. None the less, for the most part a RB that has a big receiving year early in his career has pretty severely regressed in terms of receiving numbers going forward. There's no guarantee that Bell doesn't settle into the 35-55 receptions range for the remainder of his career like LT, SJax, Charles, and McCoy all did before him. In fact, history tells us that it's rather likely.

Yeah a simple injury to any various positions can change everything. Like Bell not playing 4 games (that's almost a guaranteed 25% drop off).

I'm good with you playing the odds and trends and regressions.

But I have to sit here and rank and judge -- and I have that offense as the tip-top 2 or 3 in the league. And Bell as the #1 rushing option and #2 receiving option.

That is a solid point. Unlike injuries which you can not predict, we are almost certain Bell will miss around 2 games (ish) pending appeal. If an injury comes up, that could hamper 1/4 to 1/2 his season.

 

[beef]

Bells season will probable have a drop because of the suspension, but that doesn't mean his ppg will also. His value to me is so high because he's one of very few rbs you plug in every week and even if its a bad week he still gets 15-20 points in ppr. Great vbd.

 

[beef]

I'd be open to moving bell but all I get is low ball offers. Mid first pick with a mid-high #2 wr. Or 2 firsts but neither are top 5.

 

[pghrob]

Hold in dynasty ppr if he is your best rb. He's quite young and well fed.

 

[Faust]

Le'Veon Bell: Knee 'getting close to 100 percent'

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000487850/article/leveon-bell-knee-getting-close-to-100-percent

 

[Godsbrother]

Unfortunately he is going to have plenty of time to rest the knee at the beginning of the season

 

[cstu]

Been thinking about who Bell compares to as well as what the rest of his career will look like and came up with:

Matt Forte

Similarities:

- Both big backs around 6-1, 220 with similar speed (Bell ran 4.6 at the combine but is probably .1 second faster after losing weight)

- Both caught 100+ passes their first two years

- Both rushed for 2000+ yards their first two years

- Both had less than 4.2 YPC average their first two years

Advantage for Bell is he's on a better team than Forte and should be able to put up better stats going forward.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

- Both had less than 4.2 YPC average their first two years

Bell was 4.7 his 2nd year.

He may be 4.2 after if you add it with his injury marred and shortened rookie season. But Forte was 3.7 adding those first 2 together.

 

[cstu]

- Both had less than 4.2 YPC average their first two years

Bell was 4.7 his 2nd year.

He may be 4.2 after if you add it with his injury marred and shortened rookie season. But Forte was 3.7 adding those first 2 together.

Bell had an average of 4.16 YPC over his first two years. Every RB gets banged up during the season so I'm not getting into that and Forte played behind some poor OL's with the Bears.

I don't believe that Bell is an elite talent running the ball, like Portis or LT, where 4.7 YPC is sustainable over the long-term. 4.4-4.6 YPC is more realistic.

Do you think he's a much better talent than Forte?

 

[beef]

for those selling bell, what are you getting?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

- Both had less than 4.2 YPC average their first two years

Bell was 4.7 his 2nd year.

He may be 4.2 after if you add it with his injury marred and shortened rookie season. But Forte was 3.7 adding those first 2 together.

Bell had an average of 4.16 YPC over his first two years. Every RB gets banged up during the season so I'm not getting into that and Forte played behind some poor OL's with the Bears.

I don't believe that Bell is an elite talent running the ball, like Portis or LT, where 4.7 YPC is sustainable over the long-term. 4.4-4.6 YPC is more realistic.

Do you think he's a much better talent than Forte?

There's an odd narrative surrounding Bell right now, and it seems very different from the one that surrounded him during the season.

I think when most people saw Bell at the start of 2014 they were amazing at how good he looked. Not the numbers he was putting up, not how good the offense looked, but how fast, spry, and smart Bell looked. He found the holes with expertise and then BURST through them, throwing in a Shady-like lateral cut in the middle if need-be. Remember, Bell jumped massively in fantasy rankings early in the year, back when he wasn't scoring any touchdowns and as such, wasn't scoring as many points as some other top RBs. He became a top dynasty running back because of the way he looked, not simply because of the points he was putting up.

To me, Bell's rookie season is basically irrelevant. He was a different guy. He dropped the weight and recovered from the foot injury and he doesn't even look like the same player.

The "situation" is overrated. Bell put up big numbers because of his talent. His receiving numbers were high not because of the team (to the contrary, Pitt rarely throws to its backs normally), but because he's an AMAZING receiver who wasn't just catching the usual RB dumpoffs, but was running down-field routes like a WR. He was a workhorse receiver on a team that had drafted a guy to be the receiver out of the backfield. Bell, the workhorse runner, was a better receiver than the receiving specialist they brought in.

On the rushing side of things, this was not a situation like DeAngelo Williams on the Panthers or Priest Holmes on the Chiefs where the backup matched the starter's production/efficiency. Blount was mediocre behind the same line that Bell excelled behind. Then, Blount went and ran behind a different line at the end of the season in New England and looked good. Clearly Pitt wasn't rolling some dominant line out there when Blount looked just OK behind Pitt's line but looked good behind New England's.

During the season this all seemed like common knowledge. Bell was excelling because he was a stud, not just because of where he was playing. Now, in the offseason, that seems to have shifted a lot and people seem to be implying that Bell is just your average plodder in a great spot. 2013's plodder version of Le'Veon Bell is long gone and unless he gains 30 lbs and injures his foot again, I don't really care what that guy did. This is a new Le'Veon Bell.

 

[Proust Loves Cake]

So, what you're saying is Bell > Blount? I'll buy that. Average plodder? No, he's above average.

Situations are never over-rated. You can't possibly believe that. Bell is one of a small handful of really safe picks right now, which makes him very valuable. I don't want to carry over the discussion from another thread, but let's stipulate that he had a fantastic 2014 campaign, and go from there. I think what you're seeing are folks taking a step back, surveying the year, and finding some genuine skepticism that he's not going to ever repeat that level of production in his lifetime as an NFL back. He's good. Just not that good.

 

[Proust Loves Cake]

for those selling bell, what are you getting?

Jamaal Charles + Kelvin Benjamin

 

[georg013]

So, what you're saying is Bell > Blount? I'll buy that. Average plodder? No, he's above average.

Situations are never over-rated. You can't possibly believe that. Bell is one of a small handful of really safe picks right now, which makes him very valuable. I don't want to carry over the discussion from another thread, but let's stipulate that he had a fantastic 2014 campaign, and go from there. I think what you're seeing are folks taking a step back, surveying the year, and finding some genuine skepticism that he's not going to ever repeat that level of production in his lifetime as an NFL back. He's good. Just not that good.

Nice post. Bell is solid. I will give him that. But he does not scream AMAZING to me. At all.

 

[cstu]

There's an odd narrative surrounding Bell right now, and it seems very different from the one that surrounded him during the season.

I think when most people saw Bell at the start of 2014 they were amazing at how good he looked. Not the numbers he was putting up, not how good the offense looked, but how fast, spry, and smart Bell looked. He found the holes with expertise and then BURST through them, throwing in a Shady-like lateral cut in the middle if need-be. Remember, Bell jumped massively in fantasy rankings early in the year, back when he wasn't scoring any touchdowns and as such, wasn't scoring as many points as some other top RBs. He became a top dynasty running back because of the way he looked, not simply because of the points he was putting up.

To me, Bell's rookie season is basically irrelevant. He was a different guy. He dropped the weight and recovered from the foot injury and he doesn't even look like the same player.

The "situation" is overrated. Bell put up big numbers because of his talent. His receiving numbers were high not because of the team (to the contrary, Pitt rarely throws to its backs normally), but because he's an AMAZING receiver who wasn't just catching the usual RB dumpoffs, but was running down-field routes like a WR. He was a workhorse receiver on a team that had drafted a guy to be the receiver out of the backfield. Bell, the workhorse runner, was a better receiver than the receiving specialist they brought in.

On the rushing side of things, this was not a situation like DeAngelo Williams on the Panthers or Priest Holmes on the Chiefs where the backup matched the starter's production/efficiency. Blount was mediocre behind the same line that Bell excelled behind. Then, Blount went and ran behind a different line at the end of the season in New England and looked good. Clearly Pitt wasn't rolling some dominant line out there when Blount looked just OK behind Pitt's line but looked good behind New England's.

During the season this all seemed like common knowledge. Bell was excelling because he was a stud, not just because of where he was playing. Now, in the offseason, that seems to have shifted a lot and people seem to be implying that Bell is just your average plodder in a great spot. 2013's plodder version of Le'Veon Bell is long gone and unless he gains 30 lbs and injures his foot again, I don't really care what that guy did. This is a new Le'Veon Bell.

Is Forte an insult now?

When he was drafted it was a compliment and a guy people were hoping he'd become.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

So, what you're saying is Bell > Blount? I'll buy that. Average plodder? No, he's above average.

Situations are never over-rated. You can't possibly believe that. Bell is one of a small handful of really safe picks right now, which makes him very valuable. I don't want to carry over the discussion from another thread, but let's stipulate that he had a fantastic 2014 campaign, and go from there. I think what you're seeing are folks taking a step back, surveying the year, and finding some genuine skepticism that he's not going to ever repeat that level of production in his lifetime as an NFL back. He's good. Just not that good.

I'm saying Bell, as a player, is right up there with guys like Lynch and Charles from a talent standpoint, trailing only Peterson who is in a tier of his own as one of the all-time greats.

You're operating under the assumption that his ranking jumped up because he put up a lot of fantasy points in 2014. To the contrary, from a fantasy standpoint Bell was not some kind of stand-out stud midway through the year (remember he was really lacking in TDs until late in the year), yet his fantasy value still rose tremendously because of the guy people saw on the field, not the numbers he was putting up. Half way through the 2014 season he was RB5 in fantasy points, but RB1 in dynasty rankings.

Now people are going back and saying "wait a second, he may not repeat those numbers so maybe we should bump him down" even though it wasn't actually the numbers that got him there in the first place.

Outside of the talent discussion, you seem to also be under the false assumption that Bell needs to repeat his numbers from this year or continually finish as the top running back to be considered a top (or even THE top) dynasty running back. You have unrealistic expectations. Guys aren't the #1 player at their position because they continually finished first at their position. They're the #1 player at their position because they continually finish NEAR the top of their position. Adrian Peterson has only been the #1 scoring running back once in his career. Peyton Manning has only been the #1 scoring QB twice. No running back in the modern era has finished first in fantasy points more than twice.

Le'Veon Bell scored 370 fantasy points last year. Adrian Peterson's AVERAGE fantasy points per year (not counting the year he was hurt) is 274. Bell could drop nearly ONE HUNDRED fantasy points next year and still be at Adrian Peterson's average score, which made Peterson the consensus #1 RB for the majority of his career.

Likewise, Bell could drop 100 points from last year's numbers and he'd still finish as a top 5 running back. Young guys that consistently finish in the top 5 are the #1 players at their position. That's what made guys like Ladainian Tomlinson and Adrian Peterson the #1 guys at their position long before they ever actually finished as the #1 fantasy scorer. Bell could go the rest of his career without ever scoring 370 points again and still be worth it as the #1 dynasty running back so long as he keeps putting up 270+. Meanwhile, he's just as likely to crack 370 as any of the other elite fantasy backs.

Is Forte an insult now?

When he was drafted it was a compliment and a guy people were hoping he'd become.

Forte is a decent runner that becomes a very good overall player due to his versatility. Bell is a great runner that becomes a great player due to his versatility. Forte doesn't have the burst or lateral agility of the current Le'Veon Bell.

 

[cstu]

I'm saying Bell, as a player, is right up there with guys like Lynch and Charles from a talent standpoint, trailing only Peterson who is in a tier of his own as one of the all-time greats.

I don't see that. He's more Deuce McAllister to me.

 

[ghostguy123]

You're operating under the assumption that his ranking jumped up because he put up a lot of fantasy points in 2014. To the contrary, from a fantasy standpoint Bell was not some kind of stand-out stud midway through the year (remember he was really lacking in TDs until late in the year), yet his fantasy value still rose tremendously because of the guy people saw on the field, not the numbers he was putting up. Half way through the 2014 season he was RB5 in fantasy points, but RB1 in dynasty rankings.

Now people are going back and saying "wait a second, he may not repeat those numbers so maybe we should bump him down" even though it wasn't actually the numbers that got him there in the first place.

Outside of the talent discussion, you seem to also be under the false assumption that Bell needs to repeat his numbers from this year or continually finish as the top running back to be considered a top (or even THE top) dynasty running back. You have unrealistic expectations. Guys aren't the #1 player at their position because they continually finished first at their position. They're the #1 player at their position because they continually finish NEAR the top of their position. Adrian Peterson has only been the #1 scoring running back once in his career. Peyton Manning has only been the #1 scoring QB twice. No running back in the modern era has finished first in fantasy points more than twice.

Le'Veon Bell scored 370 fantasy points last year. Adrian Peterson's AVERAGE fantasy points per year (not counting the year he was hurt) is 274. Bell could drop nearly ONE HUNDRED fantasy points next year and still be at Adrian Peterson's average score, which made Peterson the consensus #1 RB for the majority of his career.

Thanks for looking past box scores. It's refreshing.

 

[beef]

for those selling bell, what are you getting?

Jamaal Charles + Kelvin Benjamin

That's it? Oof

 

[ghostguy123]

Trying to figure out if I prefer Bell, or Hill and Watkins

 

[lod01]

for those selling bell, what are you getting?

Jamaal Charles + Kelvin Benjamin

That's it? Oof

Couldn't see myself giving up Bell for that. This PITT O is going to put up big points. Not only because the can but because they have to. Their D took major hits this off season. Bell is untouchable on my roster. When you pick late in FF drafts, it's hard to get someone this good at RB. This year, Gurley and Gordon will be gone in the 1st 3 picks.

 

[pghrob]

Watching Bell in 2024, he showed incredible patience, vision, acceleration, and burst. His versatility was quite evident. A true 3 down back, I did not see any backs who looked better while playing.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Watching Bell in 2024, he showed incredible patience, vision, acceleration, and burst. His versatility was quite evident. A true 3 down back, I did not see any backs who looked better while playing.

Where did you get that time machine? - and I'm happy to hear as an owner that Bell's shelf life will be so long.

 

[pghrob]

Watching Bell in 2024, he showed incredible patience, vision, acceleration, and burst. His versatility was quite evident. A true 3 down back, I did not see any backs who looked better while playing.

Where did you get that time machine? - and I'm happy to hear as an owner that Bell's shelf life will be so long.

Lmbo. I fat fingered the post from my phone.

 

[VarsityBlues123]

I get the feeling Bell might be a bit overrated much like Trent Richardson has his whole career. Like Richardson, I do not see the ypc that I want to see.

I always like checking back in player thread a year or two later to validate who really has an understanding for the game and how to evaluate talent.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

I get the feeling Bell might be a bit overrated much like Trent Richardson has his whole career. Like Richardson, I do not see the ypc that I want to see.

I always like checking back in player thread a year or two later to validate who really has an understanding for the game and how to evaluate talent.

Could you bump some of your own best and woes calls so we can understand your ability to evaluate talent?

 

[VarsityBlues123]

I get the feeling Bell might be a bit overrated much like Trent Richardson has his whole career. Like Richardson, I do not see the ypc that I want to see.

I always like checking back in player thread a year or two later to validate who really has an understanding for the game and how to evaluate talent.

Could you bump some of your own best and woes calls so we can understand your ability to evaluate talent?

I love these response to simple posts holding people accountable. I'm just a reader here trying to gain information, I'm not wanting to be the one who someone counts on for info, we have enough of those, on average I make 2-3 posts a day. I'll let you research my work and hold me accountable.

 

[Chaka]

I get the feeling Bell might be a bit overrated much like Trent Richardson has his whole career. Like Richardson, I do not see the ypc that I want to see.

I always like checking back in player thread a year or two later to validate who really has an understanding for the game and how to evaluate talent.

Could you bump some of your own best and woes calls so we can understand your ability to evaluate talent?

I love these response to simple posts holding people accountable. I'm just a reader here trying to gain information, I'm not wanting to be the one who someone counts on for info, we have enough of those, on average I make 2-3 posts a day. I'll let you research my work and hold me accountable.

What work?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I get the feeling Bell might be a bit overrated much like Trent Richardson has his whole career. Like Richardson, I do not see the ypc that I want to see.

I always like checking back in player thread a year or two later to validate who really has an understanding for the game and how to evaluate talent.

Could you bump some of your own best and woes calls so we can understand your ability to evaluate talent?

I love these response to simple posts holding people accountable. I'm just a reader here trying to gain information, I'm not wanting to be the one who someone counts on for info, we have enough of those, on average I make 2-3 posts a day. I'll let you research my work and hold me accountable.

What work?

exactly you have to check his 5 other jag-### aliases

 

[Coeur de Lion]

I get the feeling Bell might be a bit overrated much like Trent Richardson has his whole career. Like Richardson, I do not see the ypc that I want to see.

I always like checking back in player thread a year or two later to validate who really has an understanding for the game and how to evaluate talent.

Could you bump some of your own best and woes calls so we can understand your ability to evaluate talent?

I love these response to simple posts holding people accountable. I'm just a reader here trying to gain information, I'm not wanting to be the one who someone counts on for info, we have enough of those, on average I make 2-3 posts a day. I'll let you research my work and hold me accountable.

What work?

exactly you have to check his 5 other jag-### aliases

Smells like Skypager.

 

[ghostguy123]

I get the feeling Bell might be a bit overrated much like Trent Richardson has his whole career. Like Richardson, I do not see the ypc that I want to see.

I always like checking back in player thread a year or two later to validate who really has an understanding for the game and how to evaluate talent.

Could you bump some of your own best and woes calls so we can understand your ability to evaluate talent?

I love these response to simple posts holding people accountable. I'm just a reader here trying to gain information, I'm not wanting to be the one who someone counts on for info, we have enough of those, on average I make 2-3 posts a day. I'll let you research my work and hold me accountable.

People who said Bell didnt look great in 2014 were correct, he didnt. He is a completely different player now.

That transformation is quite rare. I have a feeling most would agree.

 

[Faust]

Le'Veon Bell: "I Want to Change the Game"

 

[cstu]

Le'Veon Bell: "I Want to Change the Game"

What do you feel you've learned having gone through this whole ordeal?

One, weed is not important. It's something that I can easily say bye to. If I want to do it later on in my life, then I'll enjoy it later on.

Bell seems to be insinuating that he loves the weed.

 

[cdubz]

Le'Veon Bell: "I Want to Change the Game"

What do you feel you've learned having gone through this whole ordeal?

One, weed is not important. It's something that I can easily say bye to. If I want to do it later on in my life, then I'll enjoy it later on.

Bell seems to be insinuating that he loves the weed.

Is the implicit concern here that you think he is at risk for being a repeat offender?

 

[cstu]

Le'Veon Bell: "I Want to Change the Game"

What do you feel you've learned having gone through this whole ordeal?

One, weed is not important. It's something that I can easily say bye to. If I want to do it later on in my life, then I'll enjoy it later on.

Bell seems to be insinuating that he loves the weed.

Is the implicit concern here that you think he is at risk for being a repeat offender?

Given what we just went through with Gordon/Blackmon and all of the things they said after getting in trouble, it's a little troubling. Reminds too much of Blackmon's "I'm done drinking...for now".

 

[cdubz]

Le'Veon Bell: "I Want to Change the Game"

What do you feel you've learned having gone through this whole ordeal?

One, weed is not important. It's something that I can easily say bye to. If I want to do it later on in my life, then I'll enjoy it later on.

Bell seems to be insinuating that he loves the weed.

Is the implicit concern here that you think he is at risk for being a repeat offender?

Given what we just went through with Gordon/Blackmon and all of the things they said after getting in trouble, it's a little troubling. Reminds too much of Blackmon's "I'm done drinking...for now".

I hear you, especially given the minuscule thresholds we are dealing with respect to THC levels. I doubt he has a weed problem in the traditional sense, but now that he has been popped for it - testing is going to be a #####.

 

[cstu]

I hear you, especially given the minuscule thresholds we are dealing with respect to THC levels. I doubt he has a weed problem in the traditional sense, but now that he has been popped for it - testing is going to be a #####.

What his status with regard to alcohol - he can't drink either due to the DUI, right?