RB Le'Veon Bell, FA (2 Viewers)

[DoubleG]

The thing that actually concerns me more is this silliness that both will "Absolutely" play in a meaningless preseason game this week. A one game suspension would have been better than a possible multi-game injury in a pointless game.

It seems as though Tomlin is (rather stupidly) risking the health of his RBs for no reason. If one (or both) gets dinged up so close to the start of the season, Tomlin will likely (and should) get railed by the Pittsburgh press and the fans. You want to discipline them? Make them run extra sprints or stay after practice to do silly menial labor type stuff - but to put them at injury risk with a bunch of scrubs just wreaks of idiocy. All it takes is some not-going-to-make-the-team rookie to miss a block and get one of the two of them lit up (or worse).

Now, perhaps, Tomlin is just saying they're going to play - but plans on pulling both after a play or two. But is he doesn't, and makes them play significant reps, then he is just a dolt.

 

[cloppbeast]

http://sportsblogs.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers-steelers-blog/2014/08/27/Steelers-Can-t-Suspend-Bell/stories/201408270001

Does anyone still think they will get suspended now after Tomlin and more educated people on the CBA shared their thoughts on this?

For those who got Bell late, kudos for having the ability to know what others didnt. That's what it is all about, being a step ahead of your league mates.

Some of us have more concern over a potential time share than a suspension. Bell only had second round value in July because of his feature back role in the offense. Without such a heavy work load, a late second round is a little expensive.

 

[Bronco Billy]

Neither guy is going to get suspended. Bell's problem is that Blount is more effective and productive from a pure running the ball standpoint. Unless Tomlin is just dumb - and I do not believe he is - he'll use Blount enough that it will cut into Bell's workload significantly. I'm not saying Blount will take Bell's job. Bell ought to have more touches than Blount (though Blount did catch 3 passes last game - there's another fly in the ointment) but his production ought to be impacted in a meaningful way. PIT isn't a run first team to begin with.

 

[False Start]

Neither guy is going to get suspended. Bell's problem is that Blount is more effective and productive from a pure running the ball standpoint. Unless Tomlin is just dumb - and I do not believe he is - he'll use Blount enough that it will cut into Bell's workload significantly. I'm not saying Blount will take Bell's job. Bell ought to have more touches than Blount (though Blount did catch 3 passes last game - there's another fly in the ointment) but his production ought to be impacted in a meaningful way. PIT isn't a run first team to begin with.

If Blount is so much better why is he on his 4th team in five years? Bell is coming into his second year, glad you noticed that a guy who is a journeyman is better than a RB coming into his 2nd year who played behind arguably the most putrid OLine ever in the history of the world. I would wait to rush judgement, especially since Blount has never been anything special and doesnt catch like Bell.

 

[Chaka]

Neither guy is going to get suspended. Bell's problem is that Blount is more effective and productive from a pure running the ball standpoint. Unless Tomlin is just dumb - and I do not believe he is - he'll use Blount enough that it will cut into Bell's workload significantly. I'm not saying Blount will take Bell's job. Bell ought to have more touches than Blount (though Blount did catch 3 passes last game - there's another fly in the ointment) but his production ought to be impacted in a meaningful way. PIT isn't a run first team to begin with.

If Blount is so much better why is he on his 4th team in five years? Bell is coming into his second year, glad you noticed that a guy who is a journeyman is better than a RB coming into his 2nd year who played behind arguably the most putrid OLine ever in the history of the world. I would wait to rush judgement, especially since Blount has never been anything special and doesnt catch like Bell.

Because he has a weird habit of punching people in the face.

He's a knucklehead but that doesn't mean he is a bad football player. His career 4.7 Y/A on 579 carries is evidence that he runs the ball pretty darn well.

 

[Bronco Billy]

Neither guy is going to get suspended. Bell's problem is that Blount is more effective and productive from a pure running the ball standpoint. Unless Tomlin is just dumb - and I do not believe he is - he'll use Blount enough that it will cut into Bell's workload significantly. I'm not saying Blount will take Bell's job. Bell ought to have more touches than Blount (though Blount did catch 3 passes last game - there's another fly in the ointment) but his production ought to be impacted in a meaningful way. PIT isn't a run first team to begin with.

If Blount is so much better why is he on his 4th team in five years? Bell is coming into his second year, glad you noticed that a guy who is a journeyman is better than a RB coming into his 2nd year who played behind arguably the most putrid OLine ever in the history of the world. I would wait to rush judgement, especially since Blount has never been anything special and doesnt catch like Bell.

He's limited in his overall game and he seems to have a chip on his shoulder. If you don't think 4.7 ypc for the career carries Blount had isn't special I'd strongly suggest that you do a little research. I documented it above but you may want to see for yourself.

You just can't pretend his production as a runner doesn't exist or that the sample size is meaningless. Well, I guess you could...

 

[Bayhawks]

Neither guy is going to get suspended. Bell's problem is that Blount is more effective and productive from a pure running the ball standpoint. Unless Tomlin is just dumb - and I do not believe he is - he'll use Blount enough that it will cut into Bell's workload significantly. I'm not saying Blount will take Bell's job. Bell ought to have more touches than Blount (though Blount did catch 3 passes last game - there's another fly in the ointment) but his production ought to be impacted in a meaningful way. PIT isn't a run first team to begin with.

If Blount is so much better why is he on his 4th team in five years? Bell is coming into his second year, glad you noticed that a guy who is a journeyman is better than a RB coming into his 2nd year who played behind arguably the most putrid OLine ever in the history of the world. I would wait to rush judgement, especially since Blount has never been anything special and doesnt catch like Bell.

He's limited in his overall game and he seems to have a chip on his shoulder. If you don't think 4.7 ypc for the career carries Blount had isn't special I'd strongly suggest that you do a little research. I documented it above but you may want to see for yourself.

You just can't pretend his production as a runner doesn't exist or that the sample size is meaningless. Well, I guess you could...

I think Blount is a decent RB. Yes, he has a 4.7 career YPC, but he averaged 5.0 YPC twice, and in those two years, his team featured good run-blocking (top-10 both years). In his second year, TB's run blocking was much worse (bottom-5), and his YPC wasn't nearly as good. His 3rd year in TB, he was replaced with Doug Martin, so even though they had a good O-line, he couldn't benefit from it. Pittsburgh had a bottom-5 O-line last year. While it's improved this year, I don't know how much, and Blount might not have the benefit of a great O-line opening holes for him.

Also, I'm not sure how well he fits in with the offense the Steelers have said they are trying to run. He doesn't run routes or catch well, and he's an average pass-blocker, at best. He would be a detriment to the hurry-up/no huddle offense they want to run, as he would limit their passing options.

Furthermore, he's not a great short-yardage runner, as has been well documented, even though his size indicates he should be.

Basically, he'd be great at running at the clock late in games when the Steelers aren't trying to throw, aren't running the no-huddle, and have a decent lead. I'm not entirely confident that this will be the case a lot this year.

 

[Godsbrother]

The thing that actually concerns me more is this silliness that both will "Absolutely" play in a meaningless preseason game this week. A one game suspension would have been better than a possible multi-game injury in a pointless game.

It seems as though Tomlin is (rather stupidly) risking the health of his RBs for no reason. If one (or both) gets dinged up so close to the start of the season, Tomlin will likely (and should) get railed by the Pittsburgh press and the fans. You want to discipline them? Make them run extra sprints or stay after practice to do silly menial labor type stuff - but to put them at injury risk with a bunch of scrubs just wreaks of idiocy. All it takes is some not-going-to-make-the-team rookie to miss a block and get one of the two of them lit up (or worse).

Now, perhaps, Tomlin is just saying they're going to play - but plans on pulling both after a play or two. But is he doesn't, and makes them play significant reps, then he is just a dolt.

Not sure the best way to punish them but I agree that risking both of them on the most meaningless of preseason games is dumb. What he should have done (IMO) is last week announce they will not be allowed to take part in either of the two remaining preseason games. Sure it isn't much of a punishment (maybe reward?) but you make a statement to the public saying how much it will hurt the team not having them working with their teammates (even if it doesn't) and you don't risk losing either to injury.

I am a little concerned about the lack of depth at RB for the Steelers. Both of these guys are an injury, one positive test or knucklehead move away from missing significant time and they have no worthy third RB on the team.

 

[TheFanatic]

So this is the rule that says that neither of them can be suspended by the team:

NFL Drug and Steroid Policies: No Club may impose any discipline against a player, including but not limited to terminating the player’s Player Contract, as a result of that Player’s violation of the Policy on Anabolic Steroids and Related Sub- stances or the NFL Policy and Program on Substances of Abuse, or for failing any drug test, provided, however, that the fact that a player has violated the Policy on Anabolic Steroids and Related Substances or the NFL Policy and Program on Substances of Abuse, or has failed a drug test will not preclude the termination of his Player Contract if such termination is otherwise expressly permissible under this Agreement or the player’s Player Contract.

But couldn't the team suspend them for being arrested? I believe Hernandez was suspended from the team for simply being arrested as his legal issues have not at all been played to the fullest yet.

 

[Ebaker5]

So this is the rule that says that neither of them can be suspended by the team:

NFL Drug and Steroid Policies: No Club may impose any discipline against a player, including but not limited to terminating the player’s Player Contract, as a result of that Player’s violation of the Policy on Anabolic Steroids and Related Sub- stances or the NFL Policy and Program on Substances of Abuse, or for failing any drug test, provided, however, that the fact that a player has violated the Policy on Anabolic Steroids and Related Substances or the NFL Policy and Program on Substances of Abuse, or has failed a drug test will not preclude the termination of his Player Contract if such termination is otherwise expressly permissible under this Agreement or the player’s Player Contract.

But couldn't the team suspend them for being arrested? I believe Hernandez was suspended from the team for simply being arrested as his legal issues have not at all been played to the fullest yet.

..... Are you serious... He was being charged with murder...

 

[ponchsox]

Bell 2 for 8

Blount 2 for 1 tonight

 

[cstu]

A 'washed up' Chris Johnson vs. a 'young stud' RB:

CJ - 279/1077/6 (3.86 YPC) rushing, 42/345/4 receiving

Bell - 244/860/8 (3.52 YPC) rushing, 45/399/0 receiving

 

[False Start]

A 'washed up' Chris Johnson vs. a 'young stud' RB:

CJ - 279/1077/6 (3.86 YPC) rushing, 42/345/4 receiving

Bell - 244/860/8 (3.52 YPC) rushing, 45/399/0 receiving

I;m sorry, I seem to forget, wasnt Bell just a rookie last year who was coming back from a foot injury and missed a few games?

Thats right he was. I know that doesnt help your argument thought...

Oh, and for all the people who are wrongly worried about Blount, this is from Rotoworld. I discount what they say a lot, but Tomlin saying he may get 25 carries is nice.

Coach Mike Tomlin confirmed Le'Veon Bell and LeGarrette Blount will both play Week 1 against the Browns.

There was never any doubt. Fantasy owners can pen Bell into lineups without hesitation. Tomlin is paid to win football games, not hand out team-imposed suspensions. Bell will carry the load. Tomlin suggested he could even see upwards of 25 carries. Blount will mix in on early downs and short-yardage situations. Neither player is likely to face league discipline until the 2015 season.

 

[Bronco Billy]

A 'washed up' Chris Johnson vs. a 'young stud' RB:

CJ - 279/1077/6 (3.86 YPC) rushing, 42/345/4 receiving

Bell - 244/860/8 (3.52 YPC) rushing, 45/399/0 receiving

I;m sorry, I seem to forget, wasnt Bell just a rookie last year who was coming back from a foot injury and missed a few games?

Thats right he was. I know that doesnt help your argument thought...

Oh, and for all the people who are wrongly worried about Blount, this is from Rotoworld. I discount what they say a lot, but Tomlin saying he may get 25 carries is nice.

Coach Mike Tomlin confirmed Le'Veon Bell and LeGarrette Blount will both play Week 1 against the Browns.

There was never any doubt. Fantasy owners can pen Bell into lineups without hesitation. Tomlin is paid to win football games, not hand out team-imposed suspensions. Bell will carry the load. Tomlin suggested he could even see upwards of 25 carries. Blount will mix in on early downs and short-yardage situations. Neither player is likely to face league discipline until the 2015 season.

You do realize Tomlin never said that Bell would get upwards of 25 carries, right?When asked about Bell getting 25 touches a game, Tomlin replied that Bell had 380 touches as a senior at Michigan St.

.

 

[CentralPA]

A 'washed up' Chris Johnson vs. a 'young stud' RB:

CJ - 279/1077/6 (3.86 YPC) rushing, 42/345/4 receiving

Bell - 244/860/8 (3.52 YPC) rushing, 45/399/0 receiving

I;m sorry, I seem to forget, wasnt Bell just a rookie last year who was coming back from a foot injury and missed a few games?

Thats right he was. I know that doesnt help your argument thought...

Oh, and for all the people who are wrongly worried about Blount, this is from Rotoworld. I discount what they say a lot, but Tomlin saying he may get 25 carries is nice.

Coach Mike Tomlin confirmed Le'Veon Bell and LeGarrette Blount will both play Week 1 against the Browns.

There was never any doubt. Fantasy owners can pen Bell into lineups without hesitation. Tomlin is paid to win football games, not hand out team-imposed suspensions. Bell will carry the load. Tomlin suggested he could even see upwards of 25 carries. Blount will mix in on early downs and short-yardage situations. Neither player is likely to face league discipline until the 2015 season.

You do realize Tomlin never said that Bell would get upwards of 25 carries, right?

But it was a "suggestion"

 

[SameSongNDance]

Coach Mike Tomlin confirmed Le'Veon Bell and LeGarrette Blount will both play Week 1 against the Browns.

There was never any doubt. Fantasy owners can pen Bell into lineups without hesitation. Tomlin is paid to win football games, not hand out team-imposed suspensions. Bell will carry the load. Tomlin suggested he could even see upwards of 25 carries. Blount will mix in on early downs and short-yardage situations. Neither player is likely to face league discipline until the 2015 season.

I don't think anyone was truly worried about volume, but more so how Blount could cap Bell's TD ceiling. We'll find out soon enough.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

A 'washed up' Chris Johnson vs. a 'young stud' RB:

CJ - 279/1077/6 (3.86 YPC) rushing, 42/345/4 receiving

Bell - 244/860/8 (3.52 YPC) rushing, 45/399/0 receiving

Well as long as we're not accounting for games missed to injury and guys being worked into the lineup slowly.

A "washed up" Steven Jackson vs. a "young stud" Doug Martin

SJax - 157/543/6 rushing, 33/191/1 receiving

Martin - 127/456/1 rushing, 12/66/0 receiving

 

[Eminence]

A 'washed up' Chris Johnson vs. a 'young stud' RB:

CJ - 279/1077/6 (3.86 YPC) rushing, 42/345/4 receiving

Bell - 244/860/8 (3.52 YPC) rushing, 45/399/0 receiving

Exactly, I see people drafting guys hoping for seasons that Chris Johnson has been producing like clockwork.

 

[False Start]

A 'washed up' Chris Johnson vs. a 'young stud' RB:

CJ - 279/1077/6 (3.86 YPC) rushing, 42/345/4 receiving

Bell - 244/860/8 (3.52 YPC) rushing, 45/399/0 receiving

Well as long as we're not accounting for games missed to injury and guys being worked into the lineup slowly.

A "washed up" Steven Jackson vs. a "young stud" Doug Martin

SJax - 157/543/6 rushing, 33/191/1 receiving

Martin - 127/456/1 rushing, 12/66/0 receiving

SJax all day!

 

[GoBirds]

Important to pick up Blount as a handcuff or better off grabbing Greene who is ahead of Sankey right now?

 

[TheFanatic]

So this is the rule that says that neither of them can be suspended by the team:

NFL Drug and Steroid Policies: No Club may impose any discipline against a player, including but not limited to terminating the player’s Player Contract, as a result of that Player’s violation of the Policy on Anabolic Steroids and Related Sub- stances or the NFL Policy and Program on Substances of Abuse, or for failing any drug test, provided, however, that the fact that a player has violated the Policy on Anabolic Steroids and Related Substances or the NFL Policy and Program on Substances of Abuse, or has failed a drug test will not preclude the termination of his Player Contract if such termination is otherwise expressly permissible under this Agreement or the player’s Player Contract.

But couldn't the team suspend them for being arrested? I believe Hernandez was suspended from the team for simply being arrested as his legal issues have not at all been played to the fullest yet.

..... Are you serious... He was being charged with murder...

And? Leonard Little ran a woman over in his car. Donte Stallworth ran a dude over. Both people were killed. Both played again in the NFL. The league doesn't frown upon loss of life so much as long as the person can plea it down enough and get a slap on the wrist by the legal system.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

if i remember correctly Blount wasnt ever good on the goal line...i could be mistaken

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Hernandez was cut, not suspended, big difference

 

[Bojang0301]

Lol that Pittsburgh doesn't fool around when it comes to off field incidents. I must have missed it when they suspended Big Ben after he raped that girl.

You mean the one where no charges were filed, meaning he has the same record as you?

Do you know who else didn't have charges filed against him? Adolf Hitler.

Actually he was in jail during WWI and wrote Mein Kampf from there.

 

[Chaka]

So this is the rule that says that neither of them can be suspended by the team:

NFL Drug and Steroid Policies: No Club may impose any discipline against a player, including but not limited to terminating the player’s Player Contract, as a result of that Player’s violation of the Policy on Anabolic Steroids and Related Sub- stances or the NFL Policy and Program on Substances of Abuse, or for failing any drug test, provided, however, that the fact that a player has violated the Policy on Anabolic Steroids and Related Substances or the NFL Policy and Program on Substances of Abuse, or has failed a drug test will not preclude the termination of his Player Contract if such termination is otherwise expressly permissible under this Agreement or the player’s Player Contract.

But couldn't the team suspend them for being arrested? I believe Hernandez was suspended from the team for simply being arrested as his legal issues have not at all been played to the fullest yet.

..... Are you serious... He was being charged with murder...

And? Leonard Little ran a woman over in his car. Donte Stallworth ran a dude over. Both people were killed. Both played again in the NFL. The league doesn't frown upon loss of life so much as long as the person can plea it down enough and get a slap on the wrist by the legal system.

Manslaughter/negligent homicide <> murder

 

[joffer]

I'm in

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Even at 245 pounds, Blount isn't the better goal-line option. Of Bell's eight touchdowns last year, all of them came in goal-to-go situations.

per bleacher report

 

[ponchsox]

I'm still convinced he's a bell cow

 

[Chaka]

A 'washed up' Chris Johnson vs. a 'young stud' RB:

CJ - 279/1077/6 (3.86 YPC) rushing, 42/345/4 receiving

Bell - 244/860/8 (3.52 YPC) rushing, 45/399/0 receiving

I;m sorry, I seem to forget, wasnt Bell just a rookie last year who was coming back from a foot injury and missed a few games?

Thats right he was. I know that doesnt help your argument thought...

Oh, and for all the people who are wrongly worried about Blount, this is from Rotoworld. I discount what they say a lot, but Tomlin saying he may get 25 carries is nice.

Coach Mike Tomlin confirmed Le'Veon Bell and LeGarrette Blount will both play Week 1 against the Browns.

There was never any doubt. Fantasy owners can pen Bell into lineups without hesitation. Tomlin is paid to win football games, not hand out team-imposed suspensions. Bell will carry the load. Tomlin suggested he could even see upwards of 25 carries. Blount will mix in on early downs and short-yardage situations. Neither player is likely to face league discipline until the 2015 season.

For a guy who says he doesn't take it personally when someone disagrees with a player assessment, and I generally believe you when you say that, you sure do fight tooth and nail to defend Bell.

He was mediocre last year, he could definitely be much improved this year being healthy and with better line play, but he was still mediocre and I completely understand why people are not convinced about him.

And Blount has, without question, been a better runner in the NFL than Bell, that isn't debatable. Blount is also likely a bigger knucklehead than Bell but the whole weed bust thing puts that a little bit up in the air.

 

[GoBirds]

Bell owners...have you handcuffed him w/Blount?

They are used to handcuffs, thinking it might be a good idea although it will take away WR depth.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Bell owners...have you handcuffed him w/Blount?

They are used to handcuffs, thinking it might be a good idea although it will take away WR depth.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA.........

 

[GoBirds]

Bell owners...have you handcuffed him w/Blount?

They are used to handcuffs, thinking it might be a good idea although it will take away WR depth.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA.........

Thought I might as well take that out of play as the 1st response.

Is Bell at risk of losing carries or is Blount just not very good?

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Bell owners...have you handcuffed him w/Blount?

They are used to handcuffs, thinking it might be a good idea although it will take away WR depth.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA.........

Thought I might as well take that out of play as the 1st response.

Is Bell at risk of losing carries or is Blount just not very good?

im not sure ...if he was so good why would tampa then NE let him go? something doesnt add up

 

[Reegus]

Bell owners...have you handcuffed him w/Blount?

They are used to handcuffs, thinking it might be a good idea although it will take away WR depth.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA.........

Thought I might as well take that out of play as the 1st response.Is Bell at risk of losing carries or is Blount just not very good?

im not sure ...if he was so good why would tampa then NE let him go? something doesnt add up

Because he can't catch a baseball with a glove on. He makes the offense easier to read when he's on the field.

 

[shoecrew22]

I'm not worried about handcuffing him in my big money league.

Bell is the better RB in just about every aspect.

Blount had 2 or 3 good games for NE which consisted of 2 or 3 big plays. This got people way too hyped up.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Bell = SOD. The drug bust coupled with the Blount fear created great value in recent drafts.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Bell = SOD. The drug bust coupled with the Blount fear created great value in recent drafts.

this is true

 

[False Start]

Rotoworld:

When asked if he could see Le'Veon Bell getting 20-25 touches a game this season, coach Mike Tomlin said, "I think we drafted him with that in mind."

It's hard to take Tomlin too seriously here. Bell got 22.2 touches per game last year, but was inefficient (3.52 YPC) and the Steelers since added both LeGarrette Blount and Dri Archer. There's no doubt that Bell is the starter and main man, but Blount will mix in and there will be packages for Archer to get the ball in space. We're more like thinking 16-18 touches per game for Bell.

How are the Blount fans feeling now?

 

[False Start]

Bell = SOD. The drug bust coupled with the Blount fear created great value in recent drafts.

this is true

Couldn't agree more!

Seen him fall to the 6th round in some leagues.

 

[DoubleG]

Rotoworld:

When asked if he could see Le'Veon Bell getting 20-25 touches a game this season, coach Mike Tomlin said, "I think we drafted him with that in mind."

It's hard to take Tomlin too seriously here. Bell got 22.2 touches per game last year, but was inefficient (3.52 YPC) and the Steelers since added both LeGarrette Blount and Dri Archer. There's no doubt that Bell is the starter and main man, but Blount will mix in and there will be packages for Archer to get the ball in space. We're more like thinking 16-18 touches per game for Bell.

How are the Blount fans feeling now?

Maybe something like "Rotoworld, as usual, is full of $&%@"?? I actually own both - and Blount was available VERY late in our dynasty supplemental draft (we trim down our rosters - he was cut by another owner)

 

[bill bates hits hard]

Rotoworld:

When asked if he could see Le'Veon Bell getting 20-25 touches a game this season, coach Mike Tomlin said, "I think we drafted him with that in mind."

It's hard to take Tomlin too seriously here. Bell got 22.2 touches per game last year, but was inefficient (3.52 YPC) and the Steelers since added both LeGarrette Blount and Dri Archer. There's no doubt that Bell is the starter and main man, but Blount will mix in and there will be packages for Archer to get the ball in space. We're more like thinking 16-18 touches per game for Bell.

How are the Blount fans feeling now?

does rotoworld forget that Bell's line might have had something to do with his 3.52 YPC?

 

[Chaka]

Rotoworld:

When asked if he could see Le'Veon Bell getting 20-25 touches a game this season, coach Mike Tomlin said, "I think we drafted him with that in mind."

It's hard to take Tomlin too seriously here. Bell got 22.2 touches per game last year, but was inefficient (3.52 YPC) and the Steelers since added both LeGarrette Blount and Dri Archer. There's no doubt that Bell is the starter and main man, but Blount will mix in and there will be packages for Archer to get the ball in space. We're more like thinking 16-18 touches per game for Bell.

How are the Blount fans feeling now?

Not a fan necessarily but I still feel he has run the ball better in the NFL than Bell has so far. Again, that is not up for debate. Bell has an opportunity to change that but right now Blount has proven it and Bell has not.

 

[Chaka]

Bell owners...have you handcuffed him w/Blount?

They are used to handcuffs, thinking it might be a good idea although it will take away WR depth.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA.........

Thought I might as well take that out of play as the 1st response.

Is Bell at risk of losing carries or is Blount just not very good?

im not sure ...if he was so good why would tampa then NE let him go? something doesnt add up

He's a knucklehead. It adds up perfectly.

Still has run the ball better than Bell in the NFL.

 

[False Start]

Rotoworld:

When asked if he could see Le'Veon Bell getting 20-25 touches a game this season, coach Mike Tomlin said, "I think we drafted him with that in mind."

It's hard to take Tomlin too seriously here. Bell got 22.2 touches per game last year, but was inefficient (3.52 YPC) and the Steelers since added both LeGarrette Blount and Dri Archer. There's no doubt that Bell is the starter and main man, but Blount will mix in and there will be packages for Archer to get the ball in space. We're more like thinking 16-18 touches per game for Bell.

How are the Blount fans feeling now?

Not a fan necessarily but I still feel he has run the ball better in the NFL than Bell has so far. Again, that is not up for debate. Bell has an opportunity to change that but right now Blount has proven it and Bell has not.

Really? lmfao Yes it is.

Blount has been in the league longer and Bell was a rookie last year behind a bad line and coming of an injury.

Context is always important, that is not up for debate.

 

[False Start]

Bell owners...have you handcuffed him w/Blount?

They are used to handcuffs, thinking it might be a good idea although it will take away WR depth.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA.........

Thought I might as well take that out of play as the 1st response.

Is Bell at risk of losing carries or is Blount just not very good?

im not sure ...if he was so good why would tampa then NE let him go? something doesnt add up

He's a knucklehead. It adds up perfectly.

Still has run the ball better than Bell in the NFL.

Fred Jackson ran the ball better than Spiller in the NFL. Point?

 

[Chaka]

Rotoworld:

When asked if he could see Le'Veon Bell getting 20-25 touches a game this season, coach Mike Tomlin said, "I think we drafted him with that in mind."

It's hard to take Tomlin too seriously here. Bell got 22.2 touches per game last year, but was inefficient (3.52 YPC) and the Steelers since added both LeGarrette Blount and Dri Archer. There's no doubt that Bell is the starter and main man, but Blount will mix in and there will be packages for Archer to get the ball in space. We're more like thinking 16-18 touches per game for Bell.

How are the Blount fans feeling now?

Not a fan necessarily but I still feel he has run the ball better in the NFL than Bell has so far. Again, that is not up for debate. Bell has an opportunity to change that but right now Blount has proven it and Bell has not.

Really? lmfao Yes it is.

Blount has been in the league longer and Bell was a rookie last year behind a bad line and coming of an injury.

Context is always important, that is not up for debate.

Really it isn't.

Blount has demonstrated that he has run the ball better than Bell in the NFL.

Context gives Bell owners a reason to be optimistic but it doesn't change the fact that he looked incredibly pedestrian last year. Do you think Rashad Jennings is the next Walter Payton because he performed at a very high level behind a terrible line last year? Of course not. Do you think guys like Lamar Miller, Steven Jackson or Zac Stacy who all played behind poor offensive lines last year (Ellington too) are going to be world beaters this year just because they are behind improved lines this year? It doesn't always break that way.

I have never said that Blount is the better option for Pittsburgh but he has run the ball better than Bell in the NFL. If Bell comes out and improves to 4.0-4.2 ypc (or better) and the Steelers are winning then I don't think Blount will be much of a threat but if he continues with the 3.5 ypc routine and the Steelers are losing then, yeah, you need to be concerned about Blount.

You really seem to be taking this personally and not looking at it objectively.

 

[Chaka]

Bell owners...have you handcuffed him w/Blount?

They are used to handcuffs, thinking it might be a good idea although it will take away WR depth.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA.........

Thought I might as well take that out of play as the 1st response.

Is Bell at risk of losing carries or is Blount just not very good?

im not sure ...if he was so good why would tampa then NE let him go? something doesnt add up

He's a knucklehead. It adds up perfectly.

Still has run the ball better than Bell in the NFL.

Fred Jackson ran the ball better than Spiller in the NFL. Point?

I'll go with "Fred Jackson gets no respect"

 

[Koya]

Rotoworld:

When asked if he could see Le'Veon Bell getting 20-25 touches a game this season, coach Mike Tomlin said, "I think we drafted him with that in mind."

It's hard to take Tomlin too seriously here. Bell got 22.2 touches per game last year, but was inefficient (3.52 YPC) and the Steelers since added both LeGarrette Blount and Dri Archer. There's no doubt that Bell is the starter and main man, but Blount will mix in and there will be packages for Archer to get the ball in space. We're more like thinking 16-18 touches per game for Bell.

How are the Blount fans feeling now?

Not a fan necessarily but I still feel he has run the ball better in the NFL than Bell has so far. Again, that is not up for debate. Bell has an opportunity to change that but right now Blount has proven it and Bell has not.

Really? lmfao Yes it is.

Blount has been in the league longer and Bell was a rookie last year behind a bad line and coming of an injury.

Context is always important, that is not up for debate.

Really it isn't.

Blount has demonstrated that he has run the ball better than Bell in the NFL.

Context gives Bell owners a reason to be optimistic but it doesn't change the fact that he looked incredibly pedestrian last year. Do you think Rashad Jennings is the next Walter Payton because he performed at a very high level behind a terrible line last year? Of course not. Do you think guys like Lamar Miller, Steven Jackson or Zac Stacy who all played behind poor offensive lines last year (Ellington too) are going to be world beaters this year just because they are behind improved lines this year? It doesn't always break that way.

I have never said that Blount is the better option for Pittsburgh but he has run the ball better than Bell in the NFL. If Bell comes out and improves to 4.0-4.2 ypc (or better) and the Steelers are winning then I don't think Blount will be much of a threat but if he continues with the 3.5 ypc routine and the Steelers are losing then, yeah, you need to be concerned about Blount.

You really seem to be taking this personally and not looking at it objectively.

I was actually impressed with Bell last year, at least watching him (and not just stats). Ran hard, surprisingly nimble/shifty, good hands. And this was on a struggling team while battling a foot injury.

Now, that's just my impression, but that along with the context of how he has dropped like a rock since the weed dui provides the potential for really good value. He's going a round or more later than he was a couple weeks ago.

 

[Reegus]

Bell owners...have you handcuffed him w/Blount?

They are used to handcuffs, thinking it might be a good idea although it will take away WR depth.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA.........

Thought I might as well take that out of play as the 1st response.Is Bell at risk of losing carries or is Blount just not very good?

im not sure ...if he was so good why would tampa then NE let him go? something doesnt add up

He's a knucklehead. It adds up perfectly.Still has run the ball better than Bell in the NFL.

To bad he cannot catch. This goes against their no huddle plans and makes them one dimensional. Blount is not a threat.

 

[Chaka]

Rotoworld:

When asked if he could see Le'Veon Bell getting 20-25 touches a game this season, coach Mike Tomlin said, "I think we drafted him with that in mind."

It's hard to take Tomlin too seriously here. Bell got 22.2 touches per game last year, but was inefficient (3.52 YPC) and the Steelers since added both LeGarrette Blount and Dri Archer. There's no doubt that Bell is the starter and main man, but Blount will mix in and there will be packages for Archer to get the ball in space. We're more like thinking 16-18 touches per game for Bell.

How are the Blount fans feeling now?

Not a fan necessarily but I still feel he has run the ball better in the NFL than Bell has so far. Again, that is not up for debate. Bell has an opportunity to change that but right now Blount has proven it and Bell has not.

Really? lmfao Yes it is.

Blount has been in the league longer and Bell was a rookie last year behind a bad line and coming of an injury.

Context is always important, that is not up for debate.

Really it isn't.

Blount has demonstrated that he has run the ball better than Bell in the NFL.

Context gives Bell owners a reason to be optimistic but it doesn't change the fact that he looked incredibly pedestrian last year. Do you think Rashad Jennings is the next Walter Payton because he performed at a very high level behind a terrible line last year? Of course not. Do you think guys like Lamar Miller, Steven Jackson or Zac Stacy who all played behind poor offensive lines last year (Ellington too) are going to be world beaters this year just because they are behind improved lines this year? It doesn't always break that way.

I have never said that Blount is the better option for Pittsburgh but he has run the ball better than Bell in the NFL. If Bell comes out and improves to 4.0-4.2 ypc (or better) and the Steelers are winning then I don't think Blount will be much of a threat but if he continues with the 3.5 ypc routine and the Steelers are losing then, yeah, you need to be concerned about Blount.

You really seem to be taking this personally and not looking at it objectively.

I was actually impressed with Bell last year, at least watching him (and not just stats). Ran hard, surprisingly nimble/shifty, good hands. And this was on a struggling team while battling a foot injury.

Now, that's just my impression, but that along with the context of how he has dropped like a rock since the weed dui provides the potential for really good value. He's going a round or more later than he was a couple weeks ago.

I never said he won't be good but he didn't look impressive as a runner in any game I saw last year. He does seem to have really good hands though, which is a huge asset that makes him tougher to game plan for.