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RB Michael Carter, ARZ (1 Viewer)

but in general I'd welcome the lack of wear and tear and decreased injury odds of playing less.


exactly, a lot of these RBs aren't getting the big second contract...anything to help increase the chances of that should be welcomed.

I've long contended that RBs should have different contract rules...they really get screwed which is why a lot of these top athletes are purposely not playing RB...much better off playing a defensive position or receiver if you have the skillset.

 
Hall no - Carter is going to have to adjust his diet to eat a lot less
There’s a lot of carries that went to Johnson, Coleman Perrine and others so Carter doesn’t necessarily have to lose work just because Hall is there now. With that said a lot of Carter’s bigger games came with Coleman out and Johnson in the doghouse so while he may end up with a similar workload it may get spread out different. The Jets will still run a RBBC with Hall leading the way. 

 
There’s a lot of carries that went to Johnson, Coleman Perrine and others so Carter doesn’t necessarily have to lose work just because Hall is there now. With that said a lot of Carter’s bigger games came with Coleman out and Johnson in the doghouse so while he may end up with a similar workload it may get spread out different. The Jets will still run a RBBC with Hall leading the way. 
I agree that Carter will still get work, but last year it seems like he had to share mainly because Saleh & Co. did not view him as a workhorse. Pretty much the one knock on him even coming out of college.

By comparison, Hall seems to be that three-down prototype, so I see him taking a bigger piece of the pie than Carter did/would.

Of course, if the entire offense takes a step forward, then everyone wins.

 
I agree that Carter will still get work, but last year it seems like he had to share mainly because Saleh & Co. did not view him as a workhorse. Pretty much the one knock on him even coming out of college.

By comparison, Hall seems to be that three-down prototype, so I see him taking a bigger piece of the pie than Carter did/would.

Of course, if the entire offense takes a step forward, then everyone wins.
No, maybe I wasn’t clear. I think Hall will be the leader of the backfield but Carter will get a series or two a half. I don’t see Carter as the main back and I wouldn’t want to rely on him as a starter in fantasy but he could be will be a decent depth guy with a decent floor and will occasionally touch the ceiling.

 
What's he worth as a handcuff to the Hall owner?  2.1ish?  Less?
I wouldn't take anything less than a 2nd.  If the Hall owner isn't interested I would be fine with keeping Carter.  I'm doing a startup dynasty mock draft and Hall was taken 1.11.  He's already being valued like he's a proven high end starting RB.  He has the talent to be that, but he hasn't actually playing yet so at this point in time it seems like Carter's value is as low as it's going to be.  If Hall doesn't play like he's the next Jonathan Taylor, Carter's value will go up.  If he does play like expected, then Carter's value will stay where it is now IMO.

 
What's he worth as a handcuff to the Hall owner?  2.1ish?  Less?
A little less and I'm probably more bullish on Carter's role then most and forecast him in the 35-40% type of playing time range. However hoping for anything tangibly more while Hall is healthy seems like a pipe dream.

While I tend to be proponent of handcuffing I still don't think you handcuff when potential viable starters are abound. We got that group which for me includes the Whites, Spiller, ,Allgeier and Pierce. The last two can win the main gig right now,  the first 3 after a 1-2 season wait. I can understand not liking all of these RB's or preferring to handcuff Hall over one of them but at a minimum feel like a few of them should go off the board before I'd pay to acquire Carter over drafting one of them.

So in summary I'd put his value more along the lines of middle second. That's both the range I'd pay for him if I had Hall and what it would take it to get him from me if I don't.

 
I wouldn't take anything less than a 2nd.  If the Hall owner isn't interested I would be fine with keeping Carter.  I'm doing a startup dynasty mock draft and Hall was taken 1.11.  He's already being valued like he's a proven high end starting RB.  He has the talent to be that, but he hasn't actually playing yet so at this point in time it seems like Carter's value is as low as it's going to be.  If Hall doesn't play like he's the next Jonathan Taylor, Carter's value will go up.  If he does play like expected, then Carter's value will stay where it is now IMO.
agreed. I have Carter in one league and have been looking to offer him to the team that drafted Hall, and I never officially send the offer cuz I expect the Hall owner will only spend a 3rd, and the upside of Carter with a Hall injury would make Carters value go up. So Carter seems like nothing but a hold at this point to me. 

 
I wouldn't take anything less than a 2nd.  If the Hall owner isn't interested I would be fine with keeping Carter.  I'm doing a startup dynasty mock draft and Hall was taken 1.11.  He's already being valued like he's a proven high end starting RB.  He has the talent to be that, but he hasn't actually playing yet so at this point in time it seems like Carter's value is as low as it's going to be.  If Hall doesn't play like he's the next Jonathan Taylor, Carter's value will go up.  If he does play like expected, then Carter's value will stay where it is now IMO.
I'm offering him up for a 2023 2nd.  If no takers I'll just hold.  No way would I take a 3rd or some crap like that. I hold the right to change my mind this time next year :)

 
What's he worth as a handcuff to the Hall owner?  2.1ish?  Less?
In this class? Fair starting point, but I wouldn't take it. I would not trade a '23 #2 for Carter, but I also wouldn't have spent an mid '21 #2 on him in the first place. 

 
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In this class? Fair starting point, but I wouldn't take it. I would not trade a '23 #2 for Carter, but I also wouldn't have spent an mid '21 #2 on him in the first place. 
You misspelled “late ‘21 1st”

;)  

 
You misspelled “late ‘21 1st”

;)  
Oh, I get it. I wasn't picking him before the mid 2nd last year, which meant I wasn't getting him. I think you have to be exceptionally high on the talent (Freeman comes to mind) to pick a rb with that draft capital before then. I wasn't enthralled with Carter the talent.

 
Considering the RBs I’ve seen going in the 1st in rookie drafts this year, I don’t see any problem in taking Carter at the end of the 1st/early 2nd.  He has talent and will have a role in the offense.  In the league I have him, we can start up to 5 rbs.  He definitely holds value depending on the league. 

 
Considering the RBs I’ve seen going in the 1st in rookie drafts this year, I don’t see any problem in taking Carter at the end of the 1st/early 2nd.  He has talent and will have a role in the offense.  In the league I have him, we can start up to 5 rbs.  He definitely holds value depending on the league. 
I think there should only be 2 RB's going in round 1. I won't comment on round 2 because I only play IDP dyno's, but in that format I didn't consider picking any RB until rd 3.

 

ESPN's Rich Cimini writes that Michael Carter is "still RB1" for the Jets.​

Cimini has been covering the Jets longer than anyone, so his words are certainly notable. And this pretty much lines up with what has been going on this preseason. Carter and rookie Breece Hall split reps right down the middle in the preseason opener, and then Carter got the second preseason game off with the rest of the offensive starts while Hall dressed and played with the Mike White-led second unit. Hall just hasn't impressed when the ball has been in his hands, rushing nine times for 16 empty yards (1.8 YPC) behind a poor offensive line. He also hasn't been targeted in the pass game, which is somewhere Carter excelled as a rookie. This looks like a backfield that will be a one-two punch to open the year. Carter is basically free at his fantasy ADP.
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SOURCE: Rich Cimini on Twitter
Aug 24, 2022, 4:47 PM ET
 

ESPN's Rich Cimini writes that Michael Carter is "still RB1" for the Jets.​

Cimini has been covering the Jets longer than anyone, so his words are certainly notable. And this pretty much lines up with what has been going on this preseason. Carter and rookie Breece Hall split reps right down the middle in the preseason opener, and then Carter got the second preseason game off with the rest of the offensive starts while Hall dressed and played with the Mike White-led second unit. Hall just hasn't impressed when the ball has been in his hands, rushing nine times for 16 empty yards (1.8 YPC) behind a poor offensive line. He also hasn't been targeted in the pass game, which is somewhere Carter excelled as a rookie. This looks like a backfield that will be a one-two punch to open the year. Carter is basically free at his fantasy ADP.
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SOURCE: Rich Cimini on Twitter
Aug 24, 2022, 4:47 PM ET
Breece has been fleeced.

In all honesty. Rookie RB on a bad team in a timeshare screams stay away to me at his ADP.

Michael Carter late feels like a much better pick between the two.

It very well may change toward the latter half of the season, but I’d be uncomfortable going WR heavy and having Breece as my RB1 or RB2 which I see happening out there.
 
I wonder how many frustrated Carter/Hall owners will be patient enough to hold while they’re riding through the first two-thirds of the schedule. It’s pretty brutal up to Thanksgiving.

Could see Breede being a good buy low opportunity if he and the team are struggling.
 

Jets offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur said RB Michael Carter is the "heartbeat of our offense."​

Carter enters the regular season as the unquestioned No. 1 back in the New York backfield after the team used a second-round pick on Breece Hall in the 2022 NFL Draft. Listed as the team's RB1 on the official depth chart, Carter could be in for a surprisingly big workload to start the season. He was quietly excellent as a rusher and a pass catcher in 2021, and could prove a major value for those who took the second-year back in the second half of their fantasy drafts. Hall, meanwhile, can't be started as anything more than a RB3/FLEX in Week 1 against the Ravens.
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SOURCE: Rich Cimini on Twitter
Sep 9, 2022, 10:34 AM ET
 

Jets offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur said RB Michael Carter is the "heartbeat of our offense."​

Carter enters the regular season as the unquestioned No. 1 back in the New York backfield after the team used a second-round pick on Breece Hall in the 2022 NFL Draft. Listed as the team's RB1 on the official depth chart, Carter could be in for a surprisingly big workload to start the season. He was quietly excellent as a rusher and a pass catcher in 2021, and could prove a major value for those who took the second-year back in the second half of their fantasy drafts. Hall, meanwhile, can't be started as anything more than a RB3/FLEX in Week 1 against the Ravens.
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SOURCE: Rich Cimini on Twitter
Sep 9, 2022, 10:34 AM ET

Wow. Is this coach speak? Even though I own Carter I haven't paid attention to NYJ backfield news. I chalked him up to being a lost cause this season with Breece there.

I did like what I saw from Carter last year and want to believe this news. Maybe looking at a 50/50 split to start the year? Jets may still be trailing in a lot of games and need to run a hurry up offense.
 

Jets offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur said RB Michael Carter is the "heartbeat of our offense."​

Carter enters the regular season as the unquestioned No. 1 back in the New York backfield after the team used a second-round pick on Breece Hall in the 2022 NFL Draft. Listed as the team's RB1 on the official depth chart, Carter could be in for a surprisingly big workload to start the season. He was quietly excellent as a rusher and a pass catcher in 2021, and could prove a major value for those who took the second-year back in the second half of their fantasy drafts. Hall, meanwhile, can't be started as anything more than a RB3/FLEX in Week 1 against the Ravens.
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SOURCE: Rich Cimini on Twitter
Sep 9, 2022, 10:34 AM ET

Wow. Is this coach speak? Even though I own Carter I haven't paid attention to NYJ backfield news. I chalked him up to being a lost cause this season with Breece there.

I did like what I saw from Carter last year and want to believe this news. Maybe looking at a 50/50 split to start the year? Jets may still be trailing in a lot of games and need to run a hurry up offense.
I’m with you. Was very hopeful after last season and then the Hall pick happened. Was only holding him as injury insurance to sell in a trade if Hall went down. But I’d love for this to be true thst he has some real world value even with a healthy Hall. Carter owners collectively cross their fingers.
 

Michael Carter had ten rushes for 60 yards in the Jets' Week 1 loss to the Ravens, adding seven receptions for 40 yards.


The good news for Carter drafters: The second-year back was the clearcut No. 1 back for New York. The bad news: Carter had a horrific fourth quarter touchdown drop that seemed to propel rookie Breece Hall into the primary pass-catching role. Carter, who had a quietly good rookie campaign in 2021, showed explosion and shed a few tackles in the first half, before game script forced the Jets to abandon the run. He had a run of 22 yards and 19 yards in the first half. Carter should provide a PPR floor for those who drafted him late in 2022 redraft leagues. He gets the Browns in Week 2.

- NBCSportsEDGE
 

Michael Carter rushed seven times for 23 yards in the Jets' Week 2 win over the Browns.


He caught all five of his targets in the pass game for 27 yards, out-targeting Breece Hall 5-1 while both backs handled seven carries apiece. Hall, however, turned his seven carries into 50 yards and converted his one target into a 10-yard touchdown. Carter is a low-floor RB3 headed into a Week 3 date with the Bengals while splitting work with Hall down the middle.

- NBCSportsEDGE
 

Michael Carter rushed 11 times for 39 yards in the Jets' Week 3 loss to the Bengals, adding one catch for an additonal seven yards.


While Carter lead the team in rushes, he and Breece Hall tied for rushing yards with 39. What's more important, is that in the Jets' comeback effort, Hall saw more passing work than Carter. It was believed that Carter was the team's main pass-catching back, but it was Hall who saw 11 targets. Could we be seeing a changing of the guard? It still seems to be a 50/50 split between the two which should keep both as solid flex plays.

- NBCSportsEDGE
 

Michael Carter ran six times for 41 yards in the Jets’ Week 6 win over the Packers, adding one reception for a additional six yards.


By this time it’s known that Carter is merely the backup to Breece Hall. That didn’t keep him from joining in on the fun of beating up on the Packers. Carter was able to get some solid runs later in the game including a 25-yard scamper. He will continue to serve as Hall’s backup on a run dependent offense.

- NBCSportsEDGE
 

Michael Carter rushed 13 times for 29 yards in the Jets' Week 7 win over the Broncos, adding two receptions for 45 additional yards.


The carries were a new season high for Carter after Breece Hall left with a second quarter knee injury. They didn't go anywhere, but there will be plenty more where that came from as the Jets say they are fearing a torn ACL for the electric Hall. That brutal blow could turn Carter into a 20-plus touch player for an offense that has little depth behind its top-two runners. Ty Johnson was the third back into the game on Sunday. The Patriots are an awful Week 8 matchup for the Jets' offense, but New England's defense has shown some ground weakness. We doubt it will really be there as New York struggles to pass, however. Carter will be a back-end RB2 for that one. Carter is a must add in the odd league where he can be found on the waiver wire.

- NBCSportsEDGE
 
Just because it should be noted in this thread - the Jets traded for James Robinson. Michael Carter, it was a good one-day run as the man.
Should thank Joe Douglas for thinking of fantasy owners by doing this trade today rather than in a few days after many would have blown most, if not all, of their FAAB.
 

Jets OC Mike LaFleur said the Jets would use "the hot hand" when asked about New York's running back rotation.​

"Whoever's got the hot hand, you gotta roll with," is the direct quote. We still expect Michael Carter to shoulder the majority of the touches in James Robinson's first week with the team, but if Robinson proves ready quicker than expected, there's a possibility the Jets could change things up. This is setting up to be a hard backfield to figure out in fantasy for the moment.
SOURCE: Zack Rosenblatt on Twitter
Oct 27, 2022, 1:39 PM ET
 
Michael Carter rushed 12 times for 76 yards and a touchdown in the Jets’ Week 9 win, adding one reception for an additional 10 yards.

After an ugly Week 8 performance, Carter bounced back in a big way against the Bills. Many may have expected him to be effective solely through the receiving game, but he was much more as he made key runs down the stretch to help the Jets get the victory. People who used their FAAB on Carter prior to Week 8 should feel a little better now as the Jets head into the bye.

- NBCSportsEDGE
 
Michael Carter rushed 12 times for 76 yards and a touchdown in the Jets’ Week 9 win, adding one reception for an additional 10 yards.

After an ugly Week 8 performance, Carter bounced back in a big way against the Bills. Many may have expected him to be effective solely through the receiving game, but he was much more as he made key runs down the stretch to help the Jets get the victory. People who used their FAAB on Carter prior to Week 8 should feel a little better now as the Jets head into the bye.
- NBCSportsEDGE
Great insight. People who used FAAB on Carter should feel better??? He was out touched 15 to 13 in the Robinson's 1st game!. Do these geniuses get paid for this ridiculous information.
 
Great insight. People who used FAAB on Carter should feel better??? He was out touched 15 to 13 in the Robinson's 1st game!. Do these geniuses get paid for this ridiculous information.
Carter played well and scored. I doubt people bidding on him were expecting him to be some kind workhorse. He’s always going to be out of a split backfield. I think he’s better than Robinson and will be the more productive player rest of season.
 
I think he’s better than Robinson and will be the more productive player rest of season.

I wouldn't bee too sure about that. Robinson showed a lot of juice last game even if his breakaway speed is lacking. He looked spry and good. Glad the Jets have him.
 
I traded away the Commanders Robinson for Carter this weekend. Redraft league and seemed like a no brainer based on usage over the last few weeks...
 
White starting has to be good for Carter.

In 4 White starts last season Carter had:

55 Carries-202 yards-2 TDs
31 Targets-22 Catches-242 Yards-0 TDs

19.25 Touches/111 Total Yards/5.5 Catches/0.5 TDs per game
 
White starting has to be good for Carter.

In 4 White starts last season Carter had:

55 Carries-202 yards-2 TDs
31 Targets-22 Catches-242 Yards-0 TDs

19.25 Touches/111 Total Yards/5.5 Catches/0.5 TDs per game
Yes - White was a big time check down Charlie last year.
 

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