Don Hutson
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Best.Running.Back.Ever.
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RB Mike Boone, DEN (2 Viewers)
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sports_fan
Footballguy
Someone to keep an eye on for the fantasy playoffs
Stat Correction
Footballguy
155 total yards and a TD today against the Bears. Dominated touches.
We were right all along.
Just one of those "weird game script" instances that are beyond our control. The "luck" portion of FF ended our seasons.
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Statorama
gangster
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Vikings Film Room: The Marvelous Mike Boon
I apologize for Andy Carlson who can be pretty annoying at times, but he does a really good job with the cut ups of these plays and analyzing the blocking.
With the last play he points out an instance of Boone not seeing the best hole and that is my main criticism of his game. Boone is a gifted athlete even by NFL standards, the main thing that is missing from his skillset as a RB are his instincts and vision. This always worries me with a RB because these skills are hard to measure and a lot of otherwise good RB have failed for lacking vision, see Trent Richardson for example.
Boone shows improvement as demonstrated by a couple of these plays where he does set up his blocking and makes some big plays that without him recognizing and executing what he sees would have been much smaller gains. That is a key for me because vision is something that some players just never develop. As Andy says in the video Boone is a converted WR who doesn't have as much experience as a RB as a lot of other RB in the league do. He is showing improvement in reading his blocks and timing to get free.
The play Andy talks about is an example of Boone not seeing his best option and I don't think he is out of the woods yet as far as that goes. It may still be something that holds him back going forward, but to see the improvement is really nice.
To me the main difference between Dalvin Cook and Mike Boone is that Cook sees these small holes consistently and takes advantage of these opportunities while creating space on his own as the main difference between them. The gap between Cook and Boone as far as this goes is huge in my opinion. It is part of what makes Cook so good as a receiver on screen passes as well. I think Cook has better footwork and change of direction ability than Boone as well but Boone is no slouch when he sees it he can rack up a lot of yards quickly as well.
As I was saying in the Dalvin Cook thread, if Cook for whatever reason were out of the picture, I don't think Alexander Mattison automatically becomes the Vikings feature RB. I would definitely expect Mattison to start over Boone, but it might be more of a running back by competition situation, and they will still use a 2nd RB same as they will with Cook as the starter, but the carries for the COP may increase in that situation.
Reasons to think this would not happen are Kubiaks history of eventually settling on one RB as the primary guy and it being more likely that this would be Mattison than Boone. Mattison hand picked by Kubiak, Boone UDFA, Mattison still the more experienced RB lots of reps in college and a larger player than Boone, likely better than Boone in pass protection. Mattison proved he was a great fit for what the Vikings want to do. Many commented how they could not tell the difference between Cook and Mattison at times last year because Mattisons game did translate to the next level and imagine that the coaches actually know what they are doing when picking players who will be successful in their systems.
That said I do not think Mattison has the same speed and burst that Cook and Boone have. Boone could be the COP to Mattison and still gain more yards in games because of the big play ability.
I do think Mike Boone is worth having on your roster, if for nothing more than to try to sell news like Cook possibly holding out.
Maybe Boone doesn't belong on rosters in leagues that only have 200 to 250 total players kept at one time, but in ones that roster more players than that I think he is worth having.
I apologize for Andy Carlson who can be pretty annoying at times, but he does a really good job with the cut ups of these plays and analyzing the blocking.
With the last play he points out an instance of Boone not seeing the best hole and that is my main criticism of his game. Boone is a gifted athlete even by NFL standards, the main thing that is missing from his skillset as a RB are his instincts and vision. This always worries me with a RB because these skills are hard to measure and a lot of otherwise good RB have failed for lacking vision, see Trent Richardson for example.
Boone shows improvement as demonstrated by a couple of these plays where he does set up his blocking and makes some big plays that without him recognizing and executing what he sees would have been much smaller gains. That is a key for me because vision is something that some players just never develop. As Andy says in the video Boone is a converted WR who doesn't have as much experience as a RB as a lot of other RB in the league do. He is showing improvement in reading his blocks and timing to get free.
The play Andy talks about is an example of Boone not seeing his best option and I don't think he is out of the woods yet as far as that goes. It may still be something that holds him back going forward, but to see the improvement is really nice.
To me the main difference between Dalvin Cook and Mike Boone is that Cook sees these small holes consistently and takes advantage of these opportunities while creating space on his own as the main difference between them. The gap between Cook and Boone as far as this goes is huge in my opinion. It is part of what makes Cook so good as a receiver on screen passes as well. I think Cook has better footwork and change of direction ability than Boone as well but Boone is no slouch when he sees it he can rack up a lot of yards quickly as well.
As I was saying in the Dalvin Cook thread, if Cook for whatever reason were out of the picture, I don't think Alexander Mattison automatically becomes the Vikings feature RB. I would definitely expect Mattison to start over Boone, but it might be more of a running back by competition situation, and they will still use a 2nd RB same as they will with Cook as the starter, but the carries for the COP may increase in that situation.
Reasons to think this would not happen are Kubiaks history of eventually settling on one RB as the primary guy and it being more likely that this would be Mattison than Boone. Mattison hand picked by Kubiak, Boone UDFA, Mattison still the more experienced RB lots of reps in college and a larger player than Boone, likely better than Boone in pass protection. Mattison proved he was a great fit for what the Vikings want to do. Many commented how they could not tell the difference between Cook and Mattison at times last year because Mattisons game did translate to the next level and imagine that the coaches actually know what they are doing when picking players who will be successful in their systems.
That said I do not think Mattison has the same speed and burst that Cook and Boone have. Boone could be the COP to Mattison and still gain more yards in games because of the big play ability.
I do think Mike Boone is worth having on your roster, if for nothing more than to try to sell news like Cook possibly holding out.
Maybe Boone doesn't belong on rosters in leagues that only have 200 to 250 total players kept at one time, but in ones that roster more players than that I think he is worth having.
socrates
Footballguy
If I had to guess, I'd say Royce Freeman will be the primary backup to Gordon, but this should be an open competition.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Maybe John Elway does.
I think Boone has some issues with his vision, timing and spatial awareness, otherwise he has fantastic tools to be a RB.
Former assistant GM of the Vikings George Payton would be as familiar with Boone as anybody could be.
I have never though that highly of Freeman to begin with despite the hoopla a lot of folks have made about him.
The Frankman
Footballguy
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sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
Have Melvin Gordon, need to add a kicker and I'm thinking this little gem might be the best free space (IR eligible) going on the waiver wire. Has to be worth a bench spot if Javonte or Melvin go down while he's out.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
This ####### guy
Biabreakable
Footballguy
This is an accurate sentiment.
He does have a lot of speed. Enough ability to get you interested but he lacks some of the intangible things and has face planted in games where he had opportunity in the past. So really hard to trust him even if that situation opens up for him again.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Not even just that but coming to the facility when he doesn't feel well then get's tested with covid, possibly close contacts to Javonte and Melvin lol
TartanLion
Footballguy
What’s the chat here then ? 
How much play does he get alongside Gordon ?
How much play does he get alongside Gordon ?
sho nuff
Footballguy
Short week, not sure...but if Gordon fumbles early (and he has fumbled every game)...all plans go out the window.What’s the chat here then ?
TartanLion
Footballguy
Short week, not sure...but if Gordon fumbles early (and he has fumbled every game)...all plans go out the window.What’s the chat here then ?
Yeah I’ve been sitting on No.1 waiver priority so far this season and am having a nightmare 1-3 start. There’s only so long you can wait for the golden egg, just trying to work out if this could be it even if it takes a week or two
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
The drop off in talent and skill from Javonte Williams to Mike Boone, golden egg?Short week, not sure...but if Gordon fumbles early (and he has fumbled every game)...all plans go out the window.What’s the chat here then ?
Yeah I’ve been sitting on No.1 waiver priority so far this season and am having a nightmare 1-3 start. There’s only so long you can wait for the golden egg, just trying to work out if this could be it even if it takes a week or two
4 touches in the game this past Sunday
Have you seen his stats his Jr and Sr year of college at Cinci? 4 full college years, undrafted and for good reason.
Highest number of rushing attempts in a season is 49 and his next 2 closest are 11 and 11.
I would use extreme caution
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
He always impressed me during preseason with the Vikings (yes, I know preseason) but he just had too much talent ahead of him to get on the field.The drop off in talent and skill from Javonte Williams to Mike Boone, golden egg?Short week, not sure...but if Gordon fumbles early (and he has fumbled every game)...all plans go out the window.What’s the chat here then ?
Yeah I’ve been sitting on No.1 waiver priority so far this season and am having a nightmare 1-3 start. There’s only so long you can wait for the golden egg, just trying to work out if this could be it even if it takes a week or two
4 touches in the game this past Sunday
Have you seen his stats his Jr and Sr year of college at Cinci? 4 full college years, undrafted and for good reason.
Highest number of rushing attempts in a season is 49 and his next 2 closest are 11 and 11.
I would use extreme caution
sho nuff
Footballguy
Right...and Im in a league (with very limited moves) where I now have high ankle sprain in Jonathon Taylor...inactive every other game in Kamara...and fumbling Gordon. Hoping they keep some trust in Gordon.Short week, not sure...but if Gordon fumbles early (and he has fumbled every game)...all plans go out the window.What’s the chat here then ?
Yeah I’ve been sitting on No.1 waiver priority so far this season and am having a nightmare 1-3 start. There’s only so long you can wait for the golden egg, just trying to work out if this could be it even if it takes a week or two
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Two awful drops, not as bad fumbles but oof
rockaction
Footballguy
They've got to bring somebody in, one would think. Check the wire for PS squad guys. Boone isn't carrying the load for them, most likely.
It's Gordon or bust right now until they add somebody.
It's Gordon or bust right now until they add somebody.
ZADO
Footballguy
Devine Ozigbo
The Broncos have carried just three running backs on their active roster to begin the 2022 campaign. They now have two with Williams hurt and heading for IR. The good news is they have another back stashed on their practice squad who will likely be the next man up at the position, at least ahead of their "Thursday Night Football" matchup against the Colts in Week 5.That would be Devine Ozigbo. The 26-year-old Ozigbo signed with the Saints as an undrafted free agent in 2019 and is now with his fourth different NFL team. He spent time with the Saints (three stints), Jaguars (two stints) and Patriots (one stint) before the Broncos claimed him off waivers on Aug. 22, 2022.
Ozigbo hasn't logged much NFL action over his career and has been better as a receiver than a running back. He has 13 career catches for 72 yards and 25 rushing yards on 11 carries. Most of that came in 2019 and 2020 with the Jaguars.
If the Broncos decide they want a more proven option at the running back position, then they could pursue players like Jalen Richard, Devonta Freeman or David Johnson. Additionally, the team could go after a player like Dexter Williams, a former Green Bay draft pick who has experience in Hackett's offensive systems.
grateful zed
Footballguy
not yet listed at mfl.
candian fantasy guy
Footballguy
It’s so quiet in here. He is the highest recommended WW pick up in most of my leagues as per FBG. I’m not sure what to do.
What are you guys doing? Passing? Small interest? Med or All in?
What are you guys doing? Passing? Small interest? Med or All in?
grateful zed
Footballguy
17/200 rb needy
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ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Best opportunity =/= great value. He's a below average RB on a below average offense, in a committee.
Not worth blowing a budget over. If you can get him cheap-mid budget range AND you're desperate at the position, go for it.
candian fantasy guy
Footballguy
That’s the thing, outside of one league that I had JW in, I’m not needy at RB. So I think I’m going to be passing in most leagues.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Their OC came out and indicated Gordon would be "carry the load". Obviously he's gonna have to hold onto the ball or he won't be carrying the ball much (if at all). I think that's the reason they picked up Murray TBH if Gordon's fumbling issues continue.
If definitely wouldn't be blowing my load on Boone. I'd rather grab a RB I like BEFORE injury occurs than pay a premium for Boone. I'd probably grab Murray after waivers (assuming he clears) than pay big for Boone.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Waiver Wire
Sam Quentin
Footballguy
Yeah, this backfield has become quite the boondoggle….
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Sent Mike to the boondocks for an open roster space.
