Hot Sauce Guy
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I’d be willing to bet they come into next week with the same personnel and plan they came into this week with.
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RB Rhamondre Stevenson, NE (4 Viewers)
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Judge Smails
Footballguy
He’s gonna find himself out of the league because of fumbling
Godsbrother
Footballguy
The Steelers run defense has been so bad so I thought this would be a safe play.
Nope
Nope
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
Shallow league .. would you send Rhamo to the FA list, if just for him being another rosters "landmine"? FAAB league.
For some perspective, Your other RB's are CMC, Hall, Quinshon, BILL, Tuten. PPR league, so this hypothetical team also starts JSN/London/Egbuka/TET/Rice
Thee only other drop on this completely hypothetical team would be Njoku; Warren is the starter at TE.
This team would be dropping Rhamo, to activate Judkins from IR, and then add Purdy for the backup week 7 QB.
dipandglide
Footballguy
I'd rather drop Njoku unless it's TE premium. RBs have more upside on your bench than TEs.
ponchsox
Footballguy
Sounds like coach speak. I’d be shocked if Henderson doesn’t have more touches this week.
I don't know what to do with Maye greasing the balls before he hands them to the Pats RBs.
Vrabel wasn't happy when he discussed the fumbles and also mentioned players not blocking well sets them up.
McDaniels praising Rhamondre seemed like trade bait coach speak because I was in a negative mindset but maybe he is positive? No wait fumbles are bad that's not me misunderstanding.
Reiss has the rookie taking first reps in drills this week and even drills being stopped so that they're sure he's got it perfect. Usually the starter is first.
Fumbles always make fools of us in FF
Vrabel wasn't happy when he discussed the fumbles and also mentioned players not blocking well sets them up.
McDaniels praising Rhamondre seemed like trade bait coach speak because I was in a negative mindset but maybe he is positive? No wait fumbles are bad that's not me misunderstanding.
Reiss has the rookie taking first reps in drills this week and even drills being stopped so that they're sure he's got it perfect. Usually the starter is first.
Fumbles always make fools of us in FF
Agree.
Probably wordplay or coach speak where he would not view it as discipline to scale back Ramondre and uptick Henderson but simply relative to performance with the fumbles being part of that performance.
Footballdaz
Footballguy
He is. He's starting this week
Hard to imagine it's a legit start
Tells you alot about Henderson if they legit roll rs out again
Riffraff
Footballguy
There was a little more to the previous report about not being disciplined. Snipped out of course for clicks.
Vrabel referenced Drake Maye’s two turnovers, saying they aren’t making a change at quarterback, so same goes at running back.
Vrabel referenced Drake Maye’s two turnovers, saying they aren’t making a change at quarterback, so same goes at running back.
Carlos A. Lopez
#Patriots HC Mike Vrabel on the decision to not “discipline” RB Rhamondre Stevenson:
“I mean, we only got so many guys. We got 3 backs on the active roster so we need all 3… Certainly need his skillset… We had to put the fire out and gotta continue to do that.”
(@Patriots)
efactor
Footballguy
On the WR side of the equation for the Pats, Demario Douglas, who was "uncoverable" in camp according to reports has 5 catches for 13 yards on 13 targets in 4 games. After his big week 1, Boutte has 4 catches in his last 3. Got to believe Kyle Williams could do better. Guess Vrbal and/or McDaniels aren't fond of rookies.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Truth. Douglas has seen his snap counts start to dwindle in favor of Williams. Perhaps more importantly, Maye and Diggs are starting to gel...and/or Diggs is starting to shake off the ACL rust. Henderson is starting to be patient and allow time for his blocks to setup instead of just running into his blockers. The O line grades for run blocking are actually pretty decent...and its really been a conspiracy between all three backs to underperform that I imagine is causing McD and Vrabel to provide "significant feedback" in the RB room
.Unfortunately, this is not a good week to be "just hitting your stride". The probabilities are: 20% Pats sneak a win, 20% Bills obliterate the Pats, 60% Bills methodically beat the Pats 27-17 or maybe 27-20 such that the spread is covered by NE.
Hartliner
Footballguy
Maybe we should sell high? I think this might be the top performance 2 TDs... And hope people didn't see the fumble or know about Rha'Fumble're Stevenson.
The target should be someone that needs a bye week filler for week 6 Texans/Vikes or in week 7 Ravens/Bills. Take anything cause I think its pretty imminent.
The Patriots Bye week is week 14 so can't use that as the target date for switch at RB. Next thought is it might be TNF(For mini bye) on Week 11 but I think they target a switch sooner. Any Value will evaporate soon, Maybe use em as a throwin to squeeze some extra value. He can be marketed as a flex play Lowend RB2 atm- but I think that is the best light.
if no fumble I would have stayed the course. Fickle Football.
The target should be someone that needs a bye week filler for week 6 Texans/Vikes or in week 7 Ravens/Bills. Take anything cause I think its pretty imminent.
The Patriots Bye week is week 14 so can't use that as the target date for switch at RB. Next thought is it might be TNF(For mini bye) on Week 11 but I think they target a switch sooner. Any Value will evaporate soon, Maybe use em as a throwin to squeeze some extra value. He can be marketed as a flex play Lowend RB2 atm- but I think that is the best light.
if no fumble I would have stayed the course. Fickle Football.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Its a serious open question.
Fumbles by season starting in 2021: 2 / 4 / 1 / 7 (!) / 3 (to date)
Corrective action to fix fumbling was supposedly a pre-season focus area this year but it remains a problem. Now with Gibson injured the pressure to fix this OR to bring in another RB only ratchets up.
Most fumbles by a RB in a season: (most on the list are >40 yrs ago and some big names. Obv. the more carries, the more fumbles and if you fumble and aren't that good you'll stop getting the ball)
- Joe Cribbs: 16 fumbles (1980)
- Marcus Allen: 15 fumbles (1983)
- Walter Payton: 15 fumbles (1983)
- Eric Dickerson: 13 fumbles (1984)
- O.J. Simpson: 13 fumbles (1971)
- David Crow: 14 fumbles (1962)
- Billy Kilmer: 14 fumbles (1962)
- Derrick Henry: 12 fumbles (2020)
- L. Tomlinson: 11 fumbles (2001)
- J. Lewis: 11 fumbles (2004)
Chaka
Footballguy
Do you know if that's total fumbles or just fumbles lost?
Think that's fumbles but using Google AI so take w/ grain of salt (tried pasting in the fumbles lost list but for some reason was getting error message)
Carlos A. Lopez
#Patriots HC Mike Vrabel on supporting RB Rhamondre Stevenson:
“Everybody in America can say that guy stinks, he fumbled. But, are we willing to go and hold the other players accountable that are standing there watching their guy get the crap knocked out of him.”
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efactor
Footballguy
Odd thing for a coach to say. Not exactly "motivational" to the o-line which is who I assume he is talking about.Carlos A. Lopez
#Patriots HC Mike Vrabel on supporting RB Rhamondre Stevenson:
“Everybody in America can say that guy stinks, he fumbled. But, are we willing to go and hold the other players accountable that are standing there watching their guy get the crap knocked out of him.”
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BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
CTE?Odd thing for a coach to say. Not exactly "motivational" to the o-line which is who I assume he is talking about.Carlos A. Lopez
#Patriots HC Mike Vrabel on supporting RB Rhamondre Stevenson:
“Everybody in America can say that guy stinks, he fumbled. But, are we willing to go and hold the other players accountable that are standing there watching their guy get the crap knocked out of him.”
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Hartliner
Footballguy
Got out of the situation and got Jordan Mason for better or worse.
fatness
Footballguy
"David Crow" should be "John David Crow". They're different people.
Truebluey
Footballguy
Banger
Footballguy
that's it, the book is written 5 weeks in. He's a bust!
Chaka
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Bad karma man. Never root for an injury. This will now befall your teams 10-fold.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
I don’t really want an injury but how about he decides to go volunteer for the peace corps for the rest of the season?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Too late brother. I’m just hoping I don’t have many of your players on my rosters now. Bad juju for real.I don’t really want an injury but how about he decides to go volunteer for the peace corps for the rest of the season?
Bad Karma, be careful out there...
