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RB Roschon Johnson, CHI (2 Viewers)

Herbert projected numbers just shot up in espn leagues
why?
Assume because Foreman is out.
Why Herbert over Johnson when Johnson out snapped him last week?
Don’t know just reporting on espn fantasy leagues his projected score shot up. It’s a complete crapshoot on that team running backs. Assume it’s his opportunity has increased. If Johnson was the clear cut best runner he’d be their starter at this point doesn’t take long to know with that position.
 
I wanted to believe when he was drafted, but I have wained. Call me a coward, it doesn’t matter, because I drafted, then got out while I could. Some have gone out with the beautiful, but crazy woman, and then had to lie and tell her they were gay.
 
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Be great all around if Herbert was moved to a RB needy team.
…..or cut
I’m honestly hoping for this. I have Roschon and Herbert (and not Swift) in a Keep 13 league with cut downs in August. Thought I had the Bears running game locked up for years to come. I just hope they cut or trade Herbert so I can official give up on him (he’s already not making my 13 keepers, but it would make that decision even easier). OR if he gets traded to say the Cowboys, that would be a best case scenario for retaining some value.
 
This was an interesting thread last season. Guy proved to be an average rb that needs injuries or trades of all guys in front of him to be relevant. ***ducks head***
 
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The price is very right this year. I am not exactly a believer in him and avoided him everywhere last season. However, he was a later picked rookie who dealt with some injurues. I will give him one more year to see what he's got.
 
This was an interesting thread last season. Guy proved to be an average rb that needs injuries or trades of all guys in front of him to be relevant. ***ducks head***
He "proved" to be average? I honestly don't know enough about the RB situation last year in CHI nor do I think everything is settled in where Roschon ends up/pans out or not.

I will say this though, Kyren Williams and Zamir White were written off after year one. Not saying Roschon will be the next one but be ready in case it does work out. Making your mind up and being out on someone is a way to lose out on the next possible one.

Let's see what happens this year. I'll keep an open mind.
 
This was an interesting thread last season. Guy proved to be an average rb that needs injuries or trades of all guys in front of him to be relevant. ***ducks head***
He "proved" to be average? I honestly don't know enough about the RB situation last year in CHI nor do I think everything is settled in where Roschon ends up/pans out or not.

I will say this though, Kyren Williams and Zamir White were written off after year one. Not saying Roschon will be the next one but be ready in case it does work out. Making your mind up and being out on someone is a way to lose out on the next possible one.

Let's see what happens this year. I'll keep an open mind.
The beauty of fantasy football. It's the one situation in life that I reserve the right to completely change my mind based on someone's logical comment or from a watched video clip.

I'm older and don't get caught up in hype articles to much. I make my own rankings. I base my rankings by watching film. Er. YouTube clubs mostly. Johnson is a big strong guy with decent speed. I just couldn't get over his lack of lateral quickness and spring when I watched his film. Even for his size just seems he didn't change direction well. After a year nothing has changed. Im not giving up or saying he can't be good. My gut just says barring major roster changes he is destined to become a spot start back up rb. It's all my opinion and I reserve the right to change that opinion. Ha ha
 
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This was an interesting thread last season. Guy proved to be an average rb that needs injuries or trades of all guys in front of him to be relevant. ***ducks head***
He "proved" to be average? I honestly don't know enough about the RB situation last year in CHI nor do I think everything is settled in where Roschon ends up/pans out or not.

I will say this though, Kyren Williams and Zamir White were written off after year one. Not saying Roschon will be the next one but be ready in case it does work out. Making your mind up and being out on someone is a way to lose out on the next possible one.

Let's see what happens this year. I'll keep an open mind.
The beauty of fantasy football. It's the one situation in life that I reserve the right to completely change my mind based on someone's logical comment or from a watched video clip.

I'm older and don't get caught up in hype articles to much. I make my own rankings. I base my rankings by watching film. Er. YouTube clubs mostly. Johnson is a big strong guy with decent speed. I just couldn't get over his lack of lateral quickness and spring when I watched his film. Even for his size just seems he didn't change directtuon well. After a year nothing has changed. Im not giving up or saying he can't be good. My gut just says barring major roster changes he is destined to become a spot start back up rb. It's all my opinion and I reserve the right to change that opinion. Ha ha
For sure, some great points there. I'm with you (I'm old lol) and agree with the hype stuff (especially out of training camp) can be a bit much sometimes.

Sometimes RBs just need a chance. I hope he can get a chance to see what he can do but that backfield is pretty crowded right now. Something needs to shake out and hopefully he can move to #2 behind Swift.
 
Toastier than a S’more.

I think I’ll call him S’nore. He’s a plodder. I remember there was a fourth and one or two in preseason last year. Give the ball to the big fella! So one guy beats his his o lineman just a bit. Roschon (which seriously just autocorrected to “roach on”—I kid you not) plods straight ahead into the defender. No sudden juke, no cut, no real urgency or awareness.

Just didn’t even come close to hitting the hole. Dud.

Eta* That sounded harsh. I’m on my phone and not a texting savant, so my curtness is a reflection of the format, not the attitude. He just has never struck me as any good, honestly. FarFromHome sorta nailed it.
 
In fairness to him he got a concussion at exactly the same time that a chance opened up for him to start last season. Instead that chance went to Foreman. He’s still a hold in dynasty to see what he can do if he’s properly handed the reigns at some point
 
I still like Roschon at the current price. He looked good in game action until his concussion week 2 and then sustained another one week 5. I think there was a learning curve for him at that point. He can't hold up in the league if he wants to play a smashmouth style. He had to get smarter about the htis he is taking.

Herbert is a change of pace back and probably gone after this season. Roschon is still a high end pass blocker who can catch the ball. He'll get the chance to be the #2 behind Swift next year.
 
I am in the minority but I think Herbert is the best RB out of the 3.
Hope he ends up in Dallas before week 1.
He's probably the best runner of the ball. He's highly efficient there. But minimal involvement in the passing game which probably gets worse with Swift there (plus all the receiving options) I'm not sure how he gets more than 150ish touches like he has so far in his career. Good NFL RB, likely a roster clogging FF RB.

His best hope is getting cut and scooped up by a Dal or LAC (as can be said about a few other guys right now) but I wasn't waiting around to find out. Managed to dump him (to the Roschon owner) with a 2025 4th for a 2025 2nd. I was thrilled.
 
Speaking of Herbert - something is up there. For some reason they are unwilling to make him the lead guy. Either he doesn't understand the playbook and keeps screwing up or he is a total *** in the locker room. Maybe he's just not doing what they want or need? They keep drafting other guys and signing FAs and keep him in the background. Really curious to see how things shake out here in this backfield.

If Roschon ends up the true back-up the minute he becomes the starter I'm probably flipping him for a draft pick to a RB needy team. I like Roschon but if I can sell high I'm probably going to take it unless I'm desperate for a spot start at RB.
 
Speaking of Herbert - something is up there. For some reason they are unwilling to make him the lead guy. Either he doesn't understand the playbook and keeps screwing up or he is a total *** in the locker room. Maybe he's just not doing what they want or need? They keep drafting other guys and signing FAs and keep him in the background. Really curious to see how things shake out here in this backfield.

If Roschon ends up the true back-up the minute he becomes the starter I'm probably flipping him for a draft pick to a RB needy team. I like Roschon but if I can sell high I'm probably going to take it unless I'm desperate for a spot start at RB.
I think Herbert is just one of those players who is more efficient on 10-12 touches a game. A fresh Herbert vs a tired D is a 5.0 ypc guy. As the starter with starter carries he is pretty average. From everything I've read the Bears like Herbert. He was just a 6th round pick by the previous GM. He's on a team friendly deal right now, but once he hits FA he is probably a luxury. Some other team is likely to offer him more than Chicago will pay.

Enter Roschon who is not the same homerun threat. I don't think he is as good in space as Herbert either. However Roschon was drafted by Poles in Rd4. He runs as good between the tackles, better pass blocker, on par in the receiving game and Ro is actually very good in special teams roles. I think his utility to the team drives his real world value more than fantasy.

I think Herbert could be a buy.
 
Really strange to me that Roschon hasn’t played in either of the first 2 preseason games.
I think it’s because he’s just not what they think is “good at playing RB”
I’m thinking the opposite. He did play in the Hall of Fame game but hasn’t played the two following games. I think it means his roster spot is secure and they are looking at everyone else.

Everyone keeps talking about Herbert being the #2 but I think Roschon may have solidified himself as the #2. Could I be wrong? Absolutely. Everyone talks about Herbert being the better pure runner and I don’t disagree but Roschon is a better receiver and much better at pass protection.
 
Really strange to me that Roschon hasn’t played in either of the first 2 preseason games.
I think it’s because he’s just not what they think is “good at playing RB”
I’m thinking the opposite. He did play in the Hall of Fame game but hasn’t played the two following games. I think it means his roster spot is secure and they are looking at everyone else.

Everyone keeps talking about Herbert being the #2 but I think Roschon may have solidified himself as the #2. Could I be wrong? Absolutely. Everyone talks about Herbert being the better pure runner and I don’t disagree but Roschon is a better receiver and much better at pass protection.
I said this earlier and I don't have anything to back it up other than the Bears seem to do everything but want to commit to Herbert. I'm not sure why but something seems fishy there. Herbert can make some big plays and look flashy at times but something just seems off with him and his fit with the bears. Maybe I'm wrong but it is kinda weird with what is going on there.

I'd like more info on their depth chart and how things are shaking out behind Swift.
 
I'd like to get more info on what is going on here.

I don't imagine he's getting cut. They burned a 4th Rounder on him last season. It would be irresponsible to cut a guy like that in his second season.

He's their short yardage back. Not likely they cut him. They don't have many other short yardage options. If they need 3 yards, they're gonna hand it to their 225 lb runningback.


Don't most teams keep 3 RB anyways? I would think Travis Homer would be the guy who would go to the practice squad if they only want to roll with 3 RB. I don't have any insider information, I just don't see why he wouldn't make the roster.

He's got a clear role and was pretty nice catching passes last year for Chicago too. The exact kind of depth most teams are looking for, 225 lb RB don't fall off trees.
 
Really strange to me that Roschon hasn’t played in either of the first 2 preseason games.
I think it’s because he’s just not what they think is “good at playing RB”
I’m thinking the opposite. He did play in the Hall of Fame game but hasn’t played the two following games. I think it means his roster spot is secure and they are looking at everyone else.

Everyone keeps talking about Herbert being the #2 but I think Roschon may have solidified himself as the #2. Could I be wrong? Absolutely. Everyone talks about Herbert being the better pure runner and I don’t disagree but Roschon is a better receiver and much better at pass protection.
Seems odd that they would feel the need to get all their other offensive starters out there except Roschon.
 
Really strange to me that Roschon hasn’t played in either of the first 2 preseason games.
I think it’s because he’s just not what they think is “good at playing RB”
I’m thinking the opposite. He did play in the Hall of Fame game but hasn’t played the two following games. I think it means his roster spot is secure and they are looking at everyone else.

Everyone keeps talking about Herbert being the #2 but I think Roschon may have solidified himself as the #2. Could I be wrong? Absolutely. Everyone talks about Herbert being the better pure runner and I don’t disagree but Roschon is a better receiver and much better at pass protection.
I said this earlier and I don't have anything to back it up other than the Bears seem to do everything but want to commit to Herbert. I'm not sure why but something seems fishy there. Herbert can make some big plays and look flashy at times but something just seems off with him and his fit with the bears. Maybe I'm wrong but it is kinda weird with what is going on there.

I'd like more info on their depth chart and how things are shaking out behind Swift.
I honestly think it all comes down to pass protection with Herbert. He’s just not very good at it. And with their shined new toy at QB I’d assume they’d want Caleb as safe as possible.

These two articles seem pretty relevant:


 
I'd like to get more info on what is going on here.

I don't imagine he's getting cut. They burned a 4th Rounder on him last season. It would be irresponsible to cut a guy like that in his second season.

He's their short yardage back. Not likely they cut him. They don't have many other short yardage options. If they need 3 yards, they're gonna hand it to their 225 lb runningback.


Don't most teams keep 3 RB anyways? I would think Travis Homer would be the guy who would go to the practice squad if they only want to roll with 3 RB. I don't have any insider information, I just don't see why he wouldn't make the roster.

He's got a clear role and was pretty nice catching passes last year for Chicago too. The exact kind of depth most teams are looking for, 225 lb RB don't fall off trees.
Hard to see him getting cut but also why isn't he getting on the field? Nothing that has happened with Roschon basically ever is indicating he's going to provide any juice for fantasy.
 
Really strange to me that Roschon hasn’t played in either of the first 2 preseason games.
I think it’s because he’s just not what they think is “good at playing RB”
I’m thinking the opposite. He did play in the Hall of Fame game but hasn’t played the two following games. I think it means his roster spot is secure and they are looking at everyone else.

Everyone keeps talking about Herbert being the #2 but I think Roschon may have solidified himself as the #2. Could I be wrong? Absolutely. Everyone talks about Herbert being the better pure runner and I don’t disagree but Roschon is a better receiver and much better at pass protection.
I said this earlier and I don't have anything to back it up other than the Bears seem to do everything but want to commit to Herbert. I'm not sure why but something seems fishy there. Herbert can make some big plays and look flashy at times but something just seems off with him and his fit with the bears. Maybe I'm wrong but it is kinda weird with what is going on there.

I'd like more info on their depth chart and how things are shaking out behind Swift.
I honestly think it all comes down to pass protection with Herbert. He’s just not very good at it. And with their shined new toy at QB I’d assume they’d want Caleb as safe as possible.

These two articles seem pretty relevant:


Did Herbert play with Caleb Williams in the preseason? DId he play with him on passing downs?
 
Last season he had 81 carries for 352 yards for a 4.3 YPC and 2TD. He also caught 34 passes for 209 yards.

That's fantastic depth. Every team wishes they had a guy his size with stats like that as their 3rd option at RB.

On year 2 of a cheap 4 year rookie contract? Bears have to be thrilled to have him.
 
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I'd like to get more info on what is going on here.

I don't imagine he's getting cut. They burned a 4th Rounder on him last season. It would be irresponsible to cut a guy like that in his second season.

He's their short yardage back. Not likely they cut him. They don't have many other short yardage options. If they need 3 yards, they're gonna hand it to their 225 lb runningback.


Don't most teams keep 3 RB anyways? I would think Travis Homer would be the guy who would go to the practice squad if they only want to roll with 3 RB. I don't have any insider information, I just don't see why he wouldn't make the roster.

He's got a clear role and was pretty nice catching passes last year for Chicago too. The exact kind of depth most teams are looking for, 225 lb RB don't fall off trees.
Hard to see him getting cut but also why isn't he getting on the field? Nothing that has happened with Roschon basically ever is indicating he's going to provide any juice for fantasy.
I agree it is doubtful he gets cut. He could also start the season as the 3rd RB behind Herbert and Swift and only used in certain situations. Lots of rumours about Herbert and what is going on.

Just need a bit more info and clarity on the depth chart.
 
Really strange to me that Roschon hasn’t played in either of the first 2 preseason games.
I think it’s because he’s just not what they think is “good at playing RB”
I’m thinking the opposite. He did play in the Hall of Fame game but hasn’t played the two following games. I think it means his roster spot is secure and they are looking at everyone else.

Everyone keeps talking about Herbert being the #2 but I think Roschon may have solidified himself as the #2. Could I be wrong? Absolutely. Everyone talks about Herbert being the better pure runner and I don’t disagree but Roschon is a better receiver and much better at pass protection.
Seems odd that they would feel the need to get all their other offensive starters out there except Roschon.
Swift has 1 carry for 6 yards for the entire preseason. They don’t seem too worried about not giving him work. Roschon had 6 carries for 23 yards in the Hall of Fame game. Maybe they figure they already know what they have in Roschon.
 
I'd like to get more info on what is going on here.

I don't imagine he's getting cut. They burned a 4th Rounder on him last season. It would be irresponsible to cut a guy like that in his second season.

He's their short yardage back. Not likely they cut him. They don't have many other short yardage options. If they need 3 yards, they're gonna hand it to their 225 lb runningback.


Don't most teams keep 3 RB anyways? I would think Travis Homer would be the guy who would go to the practice squad if they only want to roll with 3 RB. I don't have any insider information, I just don't see why he wouldn't make the roster.

He's got a clear role and was pretty nice catching passes last year for Chicago too. The exact kind of depth most teams are looking for, 225 lb RB don't fall off trees.
Hard to see him getting cut but also why isn't he getting on the field? Nothing that has happened with Roschon basically ever is indicating he's going to provide any juice for fantasy.
I agree it is doubtful he gets cut. He could also start the season as the 3rd RB behind Herbert and Swift and only used in certain situations. Lots of rumours about Herbert and what is going on.

Just need a bit more info and clarity on the depth chart.

Herbert to Dallas around the trade deadline could make some sense.
 
Really strange to me that Roschon hasn’t played in either of the first 2 preseason games.
I think it’s because he’s just not what they think is “good at playing RB”
I’m thinking the opposite. He did play in the Hall of Fame game but hasn’t played the two following games. I think it means his roster spot is secure and they are looking at everyone else.

Everyone keeps talking about Herbert being the #2 but I think Roschon may have solidified himself as the #2. Could I be wrong? Absolutely. Everyone talks about Herbert being the better pure runner and I don’t disagree but Roschon is a better receiver and much better at pass protection.
Seems odd that they would feel the need to get all their other offensive starters out there except Roschon.
Swift has 1 carry for 6 yards for the entire preseason. They don’t seem too worried about not giving him work. Roschon had 6 carries for 23 yards in the Hall of Fame game. Maybe they figure they already know what they have in Roschon.
Yeah but playing in the Hall of Fame game isn't necesarily a good sign. Roschon started with Tyler Scott, Collin Johnson, Deandre Carter and Stephen Carlson. Then last week when the real offense was out there (Odunze, Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, Kmet, Caleb Williams) there was so sign of Roschon. We never know what coaches are thinking but that to me doesn't look good at all.
 
Really strange to me that Roschon hasn’t played in either of the first 2 preseason games.
I think it’s because he’s just not what they think is “good at playing RB”
I’m thinking the opposite. He did play in the Hall of Fame game but hasn’t played the two following games. I think it means his roster spot is secure and they are looking at everyone else.

Everyone keeps talking about Herbert being the #2 but I think Roschon may have solidified himself as the #2. Could I be wrong? Absolutely. Everyone talks about Herbert being the better pure runner and I don’t disagree but Roschon is a better receiver and much better at pass protection.
Seems odd that they would feel the need to get all their other offensive starters out there except Roschon.
Swift has 1 carry for 6 yards for the entire preseason. They don’t seem too worried about not giving him work. Roschon had 6 carries for 23 yards in the Hall of Fame game. Maybe they figure they already know what they have in Roschon.
Yeah but playing in the Hall of Fame game isn't necesarily a good sign. Roschon started with Tyler Scott, Collin Johnson, Deandre Carter and Stephen Carlson. Then last week when the real offense was out there (Odunze, Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, Kmet, Caleb Williams) there was so sign of Roschon. We never know what coaches are thinking but that to me doesn't look good at all.
I don’t disagree. It’s not a great look. But based on your comments, why didn’t Swift play this past week if all the starters were playing?
 
Really strange to me that Roschon hasn’t played in either of the first 2 preseason games.
I think it’s because he’s just not what they think is “good at playing RB”
I’m thinking the opposite. He did play in the Hall of Fame game but hasn’t played the two following games. I think it means his roster spot is secure and they are looking at everyone else.

Everyone keeps talking about Herbert being the #2 but I think Roschon may have solidified himself as the #2. Could I be wrong? Absolutely. Everyone talks about Herbert being the better pure runner and I don’t disagree but Roschon is a better receiver and much better at pass protection.
Seems odd that they would feel the need to get all their other offensive starters out there except Roschon.
Swift has 1 carry for 6 yards for the entire preseason. They don’t seem too worried about not giving him work. Roschon had 6 carries for 23 yards in the Hall of Fame game. Maybe they figure they already know what they have in Roschon.
Yeah but playing in the Hall of Fame game isn't necesarily a good sign. Roschon started with Tyler Scott, Collin Johnson, Deandre Carter and Stephen Carlson. Then last week when the real offense was out there (Odunze, Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, Kmet, Caleb Williams) there was so sign of Roschon. We never know what coaches are thinking but that to me doesn't look good at all.
I don’t disagree. It’s not a great look. But based on your comments, why didn’t Swift play this past week if all the starters were playing?
Not sure, but in the 2nd preseason game Swift got the initial work with Caleb and the starters so he has at least gotten that shot.
 
Really strange to me that Roschon hasn’t played in either of the first 2 preseason games.
I think it’s because he’s just not what they think is “good at playing RB”
I’m thinking the opposite. He did play in the Hall of Fame game but hasn’t played the two following games. I think it means his roster spot is secure and they are looking at everyone else.

Everyone keeps talking about Herbert being the #2 but I think Roschon may have solidified himself as the #2. Could I be wrong? Absolutely. Everyone talks about Herbert being the better pure runner and I don’t disagree but Roschon is a better receiver and much better at pass protection.
Seems odd that they would feel the need to get all their other offensive starters out there except Roschon.
Swift has 1 carry for 6 yards for the entire preseason. They don’t seem too worried about not giving him work. Roschon had 6 carries for 23 yards in the Hall of Fame game. Maybe they figure they already know what they have in Roschon.
Yeah but playing in the Hall of Fame game isn't necesarily a good sign. Roschon started with Tyler Scott, Collin Johnson, Deandre Carter and Stephen Carlson. Then last week when the real offense was out there (Odunze, Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, Kmet, Caleb Williams) there was so sign of Roschon. We never know what coaches are thinking but that to me doesn't look good at all.
I don’t disagree. It’s not a great look. But based on your comments, why didn’t Swift play this past week if all the starters were playing?
That's what I was asking myself at first. I didn't watch the game but I saw the stat lines. My theory (as a Swift owner) is that the starters only played for a very short time. Caleb and Odunze continued to play, not because they aren't starters, but because they are rookies. Like I said, I didn't see the game. So correct me if there's some information that refute this theory. I'm just assuming Keenan Allen and DJ Moore didn't play much, because they only had one reception each.
 

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