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Isn't that the definition of a horse collar? I thought it was grabbing high from behind and pulling back while landing on the lower half of the runner
I just looked at the replay and there was nothing wrong with the tackle. If the NFL outlaws this tackle they may as well go to flag football. I really wouldn't know waht the defender is supposed to do. He grabbed Pollards waist and dragged him down. It's about the only way you can tackle a guy from the side/back at waist level
Color me skeptical
Horse collar is reaching into the jersey or under the shoulder pads & using that to drag them down.
This exactly. We were posting at the same time with the same conclusion about flag football.
Agree. Hopefully the Cowboys franchise him and he gets paid regardless. He’s a good dude and a very talented RB. They’d be foolish not to.
I know which is why I didn't think this tackle was anything close to this. However, I belive the intent of the horsecollar penalty was to prohibit guys from grabbing high and jumping on the legs of the offensive player which is extremely dangerous. I have seen the horsecollar called many times when a player just grabs high (even from the side) and never comes close to pulling back or landing on the legs. I think they have expanded the call to a level that isn't needed.
Mostly yes - but IIRC the horse collar wasn't necessarily about grabbing from behind and the defender jumping (or falling) on their legs - just that grabbing from behind at a high angle inside the pads & dragging them down and backwards, which can result in a broken leg pretty easily even without making further contact. It's just an angle thing.
I’m not sure we can even approach that until we know if the Cowboys franchise him or not.
Yeah - this sounds fair. And I’ll add that I sort of doubt anyone would sell for an injury discount on him. Especially if DAL franchises him.
Very well said.
Yes, will be interesting how he would spin in. He did sign his #2 WR in Gallup to $57m/5 years last year, coming off an even tougher injury. Granted, RB is an entirely different position value-wise, but when the old man likes a player, he won't hesitate to fork over as many penny rolls as required.
Pollard is definitely the more explosive back and a damn good one. Every player gets hurt at some point in thier careers. Dalles would be making a mistake not signing him. It does suck that he got hurt right before free agency and that can be used against him financially in determining his contract but I think he is a top tier rb.
I'm surprised this has not been picked up and reported but Archer clarified later that he did NOT have surgery on his left fibula. The surgery he had was the tightrope procedure which has a 4-6 week recovery time. The fibula is just expected to heal on it's own.
Interesting - thought it was a given he had the surgery and with the team out of the playoffs, most turned their attention elsewhere. That might bring back up his FA value a bit more if the Cowboys don’t tag him.
what's the decision?
Hmmm interesting perspective. I still just have Zeke nightmares as a Pollard owner, so I can't wrap my PTSD riddled brain around actually HOPING Zeke stays. They gotta let Pollard run wild.
I hear you. The concern is that team brass has said - although maybe that’s changed - that they don’t want to overwork Pollard. If that’s true, I’d rather his counterpart be Zeke than a hotshot rookie or even a Montgomery type.
Completely agree Pollard should be on some sort of pitch count to maximize his effectiveness. When you see what he does with his touches, it's understandable to just want to see him get more touches but it's usually not that simple.
I thought that was Moore who said that about Pollard's touches but I can't remember. And he's gone, and MM just came out and said they want to run the ball way more next year, so I hope he's not on that same lame "we don't want him to get a single touch over 20 touches all game" or whatever they said last year.
It was actually RB coach Skip Peete who said it, and he has also since moved on (to Tampa Bay), so you may be right.
bleacherreport.com
It was actually RB coach Skip Peete who said it, and he has also since moved on (to Tampa Bay), so you may be right.
Cowboys' Tony Pollard Said He Was Tired, 'Done' After 30 Week 8 Plays, RB Coach Says
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If on a one year tag or short term deal (2/$24 million)- I'm more concerned about the playmaking. Pollard is not a volume back and the Cowboys know it. They can get Zeke back for near the league minimum or let him walk.
Hi Titus,
Its the last 9 to be clear. The last 9 Super Bowl winners haven't paid really much at all to the position, with the Seahawks and Lynch being the last team to win it with paying a RB high dollar amount.
Gotta hope some other team beats Jerry to the punch.
Only the Cowboys would franchise tag a RB and then use a first round pick at RB.
When Jerry falls in love, he falls hard. And in Bijan's case, it's love thy neighbor.
They've gotten smarter over the years. I highly doubt he drafts rb
If they draft him at 26, I don't think anyone would say he's reaching. In fact, probably a steal. Top 5 like Zeke would indeed be questionable.
