JohnnyU
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Barry Sanders holds the NFL record for the most carries resulting in negative yardage, with 336 carries for -952 yards.
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RB TreVeyon Henderson, NE (1 Viewer)
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FantasyGuru24
Footballguy
Going to the Chiefs at 31
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I think he goes before that, but you could be right.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Problem is, this cat is more Larry than Barry
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I don’t disagree, landing spot is probably more critical for Henderson than most of the top 8 or so backs.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Nice time of year to make your leaguemates have second thoughts so he drops
Best case would probably be being re-united with Chip Kelly with the Raiders in round 2.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Yes, he will probably be drafted to be someone’s “lightning”. This guy is not nearly as talented as Gibbs however.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
pinkstapler
Footballguy
I still have this guy in that big-ish tier after Jeanty and Hampton. He just has a higher ceiling, with a much lower floor. Agree he's landing spot/scheme dependent. I think he needs a sizable target share in the passing game to really hit that ceiling, and he has the talent to do that. Just needs a team who will use him like that. He can run up the middle, but it's not his strength. And obviously he's especially not good at doing it behind a bad oline/situations where the line collapses.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Harris was already a thorn in my butt as Warren owner. That’s all I need as a Henderson owner in two DEVY leagues. So much so I decided to trade Warren.
Faust
MVP
Austin Abbott
TreVeyon Henderson was the ONLY RB in CFB to hit these marks:
7.0+ Yards Per Carry
His 145 Rushing Attempts were the LEAST by a player who cleared the 1,000+ yard mark..
rockaction
Footballguy
Overall dynasty number three? Who’s drafting? I take him there, I sure do.
Between him and Judkins with situation being the tiebreaker. I think. Today, anyway.
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, right. I might vacillate myself. I think Henderson's breakaway and long speed are too tempting. When there are yards there for the taking in the NFL, you want somebody that can take them and house it. Judkins has plenty of speed to be effective in the NFL, but he doesn't strike me as having the speed to pull away from DBs and take it to the house. Henderson will get you an extra forty yards and six points for the housing of the run, Judkins only an extra twenty-five and nothing extra for points because he got tackled.
Now, that doesn't mean Henderson is anything to speak of between the tackles, and Judkins might wind up the better back and scoring more points because of that, but I don't honestly know if that's the case, and all things constant, I'm a sucker for the breakaway speed and catching the football in our full PPR league. Just my thought process.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I have Henderson over Judkins. I think he will be the better fantasy player because he does many things well.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I think Henderson will go later in the first round and Judkins in the 2nd round.
Faust
MVP
Austin Abbott
TreVeyon Henderson was the ONLY RB in CFB to hit these marks:
His 145 Rushing Attempts were the LEAST by a player who cleared the 1,000+ yard mark..
Terpman22
Footballguy
Year 2 Gibbs??
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Feels like we’ve been waiting for this dude forever.
Yes it does. I jumped into a draft late tonight just to try and get in one before the real thing starts tomorrow and drafted him hoping this intel is accurate because it would be a homerun for his skillset. But I think he's going to land well no matter what and his skillset should give him an immediate role.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Hoping Tre goes to DEN
titusbramble
Footballguy
Broncos are even money to draft a RB higher on most people's boards than Hendo fwiw
This was the code tweet he sent out last year about 5 hours before the pick. FWIW I suck at stuff like this and would not have got it: https://x.com/AllbrightNFL/status/1908580385056837968
This is this years puzzle, which he says is much harder. Take your shot if you can figure it out and fwiw as I said above he mocked them taking Henderson over Hampton but later said he thought it would be one of them: https://x.com/AllbrightNFL/status/1915287364148314393
Stoneworker
Footballguy
While I agree that Henderson to Denver at #20 would make some sense, Benjamin Allbright doesn't have any inside information about the Broncos' draft picks.
He doesn't even attend Sean Payton pressers or Zoom calls (at least he hasn't asked a single question in the two years I've been listening to them).
As far as accuracy of Allbright's tweets, this was a doozy two weeks before Payton was hired.
"But there's no full court press, Sean Payton doesn't have a market. Denver MAY bring him back for a second interview"
He doesn't even attend Sean Payton pressers or Zoom calls (at least he hasn't asked a single question in the two years I've been listening to them).
As far as accuracy of Allbright's tweets, this was a doozy two weeks before Payton was hired.
"But there's no full court press, Sean Payton doesn't have a market. Denver MAY bring him back for a second interview"
Faust
MVP
The 33rd Team
TreVeyon Henderson’s max speed: 22 MPH
Only three NFL ball carriers reached 22+ MPH last season, per @NextGenStats (Turpin, Thomas Jr., Gibbs)
Excited to see him in New England
: @RAanalytics
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
this kinda of ruined his value, think Judkins i over him now
Not so sure about that.
Vrabel wants to run the ball and NE has a sneaky super easy schedule.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Why? Just thibk Stevenson will eat too much work?
FantasyGuru24
Footballguy
I’m taking them both in my auction league
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
thats good news... however you need 1st downs to actually move the ball more than 10 yards.
Henderson will be RB 1 in short order. No comparison in ability between Henderson and Stephenson. Vrabel has no allegiance to him either. Rhamondre will still play, but you don’t spend this capital on this player to have him be the 1B in a timeshare.
Not disagreeing with the setiment but the Stevenson thread is littered with people that think he's a major stud and it's only the system holding him back
greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
I may need to bump him up. My first thought was that he's going to have a hard time getting the 1A treatment because Stevenson has never seemed to be a liability. Rhamondre is tough to get on the ground, grinds out tough yardage and seems to have good skill in the passing game for a guy of his size. But Henderson might really be the 1A in an ascending offense. FWIW, Ourlads already has him atop the depth chart. Early 2nd round draft capital seems like that's the move.
The thing that's a little challenging is this: I don't know that they're going to split this up on roles. The only role that seems more of a foregone conclusion is short yardage being much more of Stevenson bias. I do think there's a team-strategic advantage in not having the RB be a tell on whether or not the play is a running play vs a passing play. I can easily see either one being in there on 3rd and long and taking a dumpoff for a first down. Those have been good plays for Stevenson. Henderson will be more likely to house those.
Waldman : "Henderson is one of the most explosive scat backs in this class. He's an electric runner who does his best work in space, but if the play design between the tackles unfolds as drawn up, Henderson can win there too." Has a Swift-Mckinnon comp for him.
Beast: "Overall, Henderson isn't a proven bellcow between the tackles, but his bursts of speed make him a home-run threat and coaches can trust him to execute without the football. His versatile skill set will be an immediate upgrade to an NFL backfield."
It might end up being a drive by drive thing to keep Henderson fresh. That doesn't seem like a Josh McDaniels thing.
Long story short, I might have to bump him up. Other than having good WRs, this offense would seem to be on the upswing with a chance for lots of RB touches and more of a middle of the pack overall scoring output. Especially in PPR, he could end up being a back end RB1 for a good while.
I'm having a hard time splitting between Judkins, Johnson and Henderson for rookie draft rankings..
The thing that's a little challenging is this: I don't know that they're going to split this up on roles. The only role that seems more of a foregone conclusion is short yardage being much more of Stevenson bias. I do think there's a team-strategic advantage in not having the RB be a tell on whether or not the play is a running play vs a passing play. I can easily see either one being in there on 3rd and long and taking a dumpoff for a first down. Those have been good plays for Stevenson. Henderson will be more likely to house those.
Waldman : "Henderson is one of the most explosive scat backs in this class. He's an electric runner who does his best work in space, but if the play design between the tackles unfolds as drawn up, Henderson can win there too." Has a Swift-Mckinnon comp for him.
Beast: "Overall, Henderson isn't a proven bellcow between the tackles, but his bursts of speed make him a home-run threat and coaches can trust him to execute without the football. His versatile skill set will be an immediate upgrade to an NFL backfield."
It might end up being a drive by drive thing to keep Henderson fresh. That doesn't seem like a Josh McDaniels thing.
Long story short, I might have to bump him up. Other than having good WRs, this offense would seem to be on the upswing with a chance for lots of RB touches and more of a middle of the pack overall scoring output. Especially in PPR, he could end up being a back end RB1 for a good while.
I'm having a hard time splitting between Judkins, Johnson and Henderson for rookie draft rankings..
