I've thought Sermon has looked good at timesI own Taylor in a few spots and have no interest in Sermon. He's not JT. Taylor has been really good this year but I don't think he has had much help.
Agreed. Assuming no Taylor. 15 touches from Sermon can fit somewhere in most rosters. Especially with byes here now.I've thought Sermon has looked good at timesI own Taylor in a few spots and have no interest in Sermon. He's not JT. Taylor has been really good this year but I don't think he has had much help.
To be fair, it really depends on who else you have. Obviously, he is better than some other options.I've thought Sermon has looked good at timesI own Taylor in a few spots and have no interest in Sermon. He's not JT. Taylor has been really good this year but I don't think he has had much help.
To be fair, it really depends on who else you have. Obviously, he is better than some other options.I've thought Sermon has looked good at timesI own Taylor in a few spots and have no interest in Sermon. He's not JT. Taylor has been really good this year but I don't think he has had much help.
As a Colts homer, I don't think Goodson is a threat to be #2, but he would get mixed in. That is to be expected, but how much? I don't think enough to matter to be honest. At the beginning of the season I believe I like Goodson more, but not so much now.To be fair, it really depends on who else you have. Obviously, he is better than some other options.I've thought Sermon has looked good at timesI own Taylor in a few spots and have no interest in Sermon. He's not JT. Taylor has been really good this year but I don't think he has had much help.
The only #2 guys available in my 24x12 dynasty, based on the current fbg depth chart:
Demarcado -- ignore (Benson)
Foreman -- meh (Chubb?)
Emmanuel Wilson -- intrigued, but Lloyd in the mix
Miles Sanders -- (Brooks) kind of interested in scooping ahead of the trade deadline
Sermon
Sermon would have been high on my stash list without the JT injury. There are definitely inferior RBs being rostered in that league. We have early Monday night waivers and I was surprised nobody made a bid. Intrigued enough that my 0-4 team gave its K the boot to see where this goes.
If JT sits for a game, any chance Goodson crashes the party? I know he had his fans in Green Bay, but that was an injury and some time ago.
Yeah, obviously a 2nd rb will mix in if JT sits, and it would stand to be Goodson. Just hoping that it's minimal enough that we get another look at what Sermon can do with 17 carries+, like he got at the end of last season.As a Colts homer, I don't think Goodson is a threat to be #2, but he would get mixed in. That is to be expected, but how much? I don't think enough to matter to be honest. At the beginning of the season I believe I like Goodson more, but so much now.To be fair, it really depends on who else you have. Obviously, he is better than some other options.I've thought Sermon has looked good at timesI own Taylor in a few spots and have no interest in Sermon. He's not JT. Taylor has been really good this year but I don't think he has had much help.
The only #2 guys available in my 24x12 dynasty, based on the current fbg depth chart:
Demarcado -- ignore (Benson)
Foreman -- meh (Chubb?)
Emmanuel Wilson -- intrigued, but Lloyd in the mix
Miles Sanders -- (Brooks) kind of interested in scooping ahead of the trade deadline
Sermon
Sermon would have been high on my stash list without the JT injury. There are definitely inferior RBs being rostered in that league. We have early Monday night waivers and I was surprised nobody made a bid. Intrigued enough that my 0-4 team gave its K the boot to see where this goes.
If JT sits for a game, any chance Goodson crashes the party? I know he had his fans in Green Bay, but that was an injury and some time ago.
Zach Moss resurrection? #1? He's averaging 3.89 ypc and Chase Brown looks like a stud.Yeah, obviously a 2nd rb will mix in if JT sits, and it would stand to be Goodson. Just hoping that it's minimal enough that we get another look at what Sermon can do with 17 carries+, like he got at the end of last season.As a Colts homer, I don't think Goodson is a threat to be #2, but he would get mixed in. That is to be expected, but how much? I don't think enough to matter to be honest. At the beginning of the season I believe I like Goodson more, but so much now.To be fair, it really depends on who else you have. Obviously, he is better than some other options.I've thought Sermon has looked good at timesI own Taylor in a few spots and have no interest in Sermon. He's not JT. Taylor has been really good this year but I don't think he has had much help.
The only #2 guys available in my 24x12 dynasty, based on the current fbg depth chart:
Demarcado -- ignore (Benson)
Foreman -- meh (Chubb?)
Emmanuel Wilson -- intrigued, but Lloyd in the mix
Miles Sanders -- (Brooks) kind of interested in scooping ahead of the trade deadline
Sermon
Sermon would have been high on my stash list without the JT injury. There are definitely inferior RBs being rostered in that league. We have early Monday night waivers and I was surprised nobody made a bid. Intrigued enough that my 0-4 team gave its K the boot to see where this goes.
If JT sits for a game, any chance Goodson crashes the party? I know he had his fans in Green Bay, but that was an injury and some time ago.
Long-term, what am I hoping for if JT is back in 2 weeks fully healthy? I guess the pie in the sky is a repeat of the Zak Moss resurrection. Left for dead, that son of a gun actually did enough in a Colts backup role to land the #1 job in an NFL offense. Doubt there's any chance of lighting striking twice, but no harm in seeing what happens with a big workload if JT sits.
Zach Moss resurrection? #1? He's averaging 3.89 ypc and Chase Brown looks like a stud.Yeah, obviously a 2nd rb will mix in if JT sits, and it would stand to be Goodson. Just hoping that it's minimal enough that we get another look at what Sermon can do with 17 carries+, like he got at the end of last season.As a Colts homer, I don't think Goodson is a threat to be #2, but he would get mixed in. That is to be expected, but how much? I don't think enough to matter to be honest. At the beginning of the season I believe I like Goodson more, but so much now.To be fair, it really depends on who else you have. Obviously, he is better than some other options.I've thought Sermon has looked good at timesI own Taylor in a few spots and have no interest in Sermon. He's not JT. Taylor has been really good this year but I don't think he has had much help.
The only #2 guys available in my 24x12 dynasty, based on the current fbg depth chart:
Demarcado -- ignore (Benson)
Foreman -- meh (Chubb?)
Emmanuel Wilson -- intrigued, but Lloyd in the mix
Miles Sanders -- (Brooks) kind of interested in scooping ahead of the trade deadline
Sermon
Sermon would have been high on my stash list without the JT injury. There are definitely inferior RBs being rostered in that league. We have early Monday night waivers and I was surprised nobody made a bid. Intrigued enough that my 0-4 team gave its K the boot to see where this goes.
If JT sits for a game, any chance Goodson crashes the party? I know he had his fans in Green Bay, but that was an injury and some time ago.
Long-term, what am I hoping for if JT is back in 2 weeks fully healthy? I guess the pie in the sky is a repeat of the Zak Moss resurrection. Left for dead, that son of a gun actually did enough in a Colts backup role to land the #1 job in an NFL offense. Doubt there's any chance of lighting striking twice, but no harm in seeing what happens with a big workload if JT sits.
Not saying I disagree with you, but if you come out of that looking foolish, I would probably have kept it to myself to avoid the ridicule if either Achane orI really think I am going to start him over Achane and Hill this week.
That’s a lot of moving parts.I have Taylor and Sermon is sitting out there as a free agent. I'm starting ETN and Najee.
I don't think he will do enough to cut one of my players and start him over the other two. I think Taylor is back within two weeks.
Not really. My RB's are Taylor, ETN, Dobbins and Najee. I'm not dropping one of those guys to rent Sermon for two weeks.Not saying I disagree with you, but if you come out of that looking foolish, I would probably have kept it to myself to avoid the ridicule if either Achane orI really think I am going to start him over Achane and Hill this week.
That’s a lot of moving parts.I have Taylor and Sermon is sitting out there as a free agent. I'm starting ETN and Najee.
I don't think he will do enough to cut one of my players and start him over the other two. I think Taylor is back within two weeks.
Yeah, I know what you were saying. I wouldn’t either.Not really. My RB's are Taylor, ETN, Dobbins and Najee. I'm not dropping one of those guys to rent Sermon for two weeks.Not saying I disagree with you, but if you come out of that looking foolish, I would probably have kept it to myself to avoid the ridicule if either Achane orI really think I am going to start him over Achane and Hill this week.
That’s a lot of moving parts.I have Taylor and Sermon is sitting out there as a free agent. I'm starting ETN and Najee.
I don't think he will do enough to cut one of my players and start him over the other two. I think Taylor is back within two weeks.
He's caught 7 passes in his entire career.I am starting him over Akers, simply because I think he will see more in the passing game.
Trey Sermon has been targeted on 4% of his lifetime snaps, while Cam Akers sits at 5% (very similar). But I think Dare Ogunbowale steals more targets from Cam Akers than Tyler Goodson does from Trey Sermon. Dare is a pass-catching specialist who has 140 lifetime rushes and 130 lifetime targets. Tyler Goodson has 87 lifetime rushes and 10 lifetime targets.He's caught 7 passes in his entire career.I am starting him over Akers, simply because I think he will see more in the passing game.
I think Flacco will open it up more for Sermon.Now we need to see who the QB is going to be this week, I would think AR will be better for Sermon vs Flacco slinging it all day.
I made the same decision for the same reasons.Trey Sermon has been targeted on 4% of his lifetime snaps, while Cam Akers sits at 5% (very similar). But I think Dare Ogunbowale steals more targets from Cam Akers than Tyler Goodson does from Trey Sermon. Dare is a pass-catching specialist who has 140 lifetime rushes and 130 lifetime targets. Tyler Goodson has 87 lifetime rushes and 10 lifetime targets.He's caught 7 passes in his entire career.I am starting him over Akers, simply because I think he will see more in the passing game.
Meh. It’s just ridicule by people hiding behind keyboards. I get your point though.Not saying I disagree with you, but if you come out of that looking foolish, I would probably have kept it to myself to avoid the ridicule if either Achane orI really think I am going to start him over Achane and Hill this week.
That’s a lot of moving parts.I have Taylor and Sermon is sitting out there as a free agent. I'm starting ETN and Najee.
I don't think he will do enough to cut one of my players and start him over the other two. I think Taylor is back within two weeks.
I don’t know.Trey Sermon has been targeted on 4% of his lifetime snaps, while Cam Akers sits at 5% (very similar). But I think Dare Ogunbowale steals more targets from Cam Akers than Tyler Goodson does from Trey Sermon. Dare is a pass-catching specialist who has 140 lifetime rushes and 130 lifetime targets. Tyler Goodson has 87 lifetime rushes and 10 lifetime targets.He's caught 7 passes in his entire career.I am starting him over Akers, simply because I think he will see more in the passing game.
The split backfield has me rethinking starting him. It really comes down to goal line opportunities.I don’t know.Trey Sermon has been targeted on 4% of his lifetime snaps, while Cam Akers sits at 5% (very similar). But I think Dare Ogunbowale steals more targets from Cam Akers than Tyler Goodson does from Trey Sermon. Dare is a pass-catching specialist who has 140 lifetime rushes and 130 lifetime targets. Tyler Goodson has 87 lifetime rushes and 10 lifetime targets.He's caught 7 passes in his entire career.I am starting him over Akers, simply because I think he will see more in the passing game.
Steichen said it was going to be a RBBC.
We got glimpse of a Sermon/Goodson backfield for most of week 15 last year.
Sermon got 18 carries. Zero targets.
Goodson got 11 carries. Two targets.
Expected to be raining most of the game.
I’m going with Sermon a few places myself but not because of passing game usage.
I wish I had a share of Sermon. I do not. I really hope he uses this week's game to show folks he really has what it takes to be a lead back in the NFL.
It happens more often than not, I am aware but, I do not want to see his talent squandered. It appears to me more and more like he'll travel a road similar to Raheem Mostert, or not.
I don’t know.
Steichen said it was going to be a RBBC.
Mods please move this post to the Goodson thread. This thread is all about how awesome Sermon is. Ha haI don’t know.
Steichen said it was going to be a RBBC.
Anyone ever really seen Goodson run? He looks good. He can move a bit. I don't know. Sermon hasn't exactly lit it up when he's been in the games in the pros. He had one good game, IIRC. Of course, I'm just jealous I don't roster him and get to start him, but back to Goodson.
Mods please move this post to the Goodson thread. This thread is all about how awesome Sermon is. Ha haI don’t know.
Steichen said it was going to be a RBBC.
Anyone ever really seen Goodson run? He looks good. He can move a bit. I don't know. Sermon hasn't exactly lit it up when he's been in the games in the pros. He had one good game, IIRC. Of course, I'm just jealous I don't roster him and get to start him, but back to Goodson.
I picked up Goodson in a few leagues when waivers ran Wednesday. Was actually in my lineup in one league but I swung a trade for Mostert and pulled him. I'd take Sermon between the two but FAAB bidding was high for Trey and Goodson usually had no one else bidding but me and that was rare, he's sitting out there in 90% of my leagues.I don’t know.
Steichen said it was going to be a RBBC.
Anyone ever really seen Goodson run? He looks good. He can move a bit. I don't know. Sermon hasn't exactly lit it up when he's been in the games in the pros. He had one good game, IIRC. Of course, I'm just jealous I don't roster him and get to start him, but back to Goodson.
Both of those leagues I have Tracy and so long as I feel good that Singletary is out I'm going with Tracy and my main holdup on Sermon is the lack of passing game involvment which is why I commented on Winz saying he was going with him due to his passing game work. That was not jiving with my data.
Agreed and I had actually forgot that game last year and before Stiechen made that comment I read a Colts beat writer who broke down their usage last year. Before that I honestly could not have told you without looking it up who was the third RB on the Colts, but after I read about their usage I went and put in bids for Goodson.Both of those leagues I have Tracy and so long as I feel good that Singletary is out I'm going with Tracy and my main holdup on Sermon is the lack of passing game involvment which is why I commented on Winz saying he was going with him due to his passing game work. That was not jiving with my data.
I was just quoting you to show that I don't think Steichen is kidding when he says reasonable committee. I'd imagine Sermon gets lead and Goodson is more two-minute drill and passing downs, but last time Taylor and Moss missed, a committee is what they deployed.
eta* I know Moss is no longer there, btw
I'm not excited about any of them. I was sitting on Sermon in my league I have Taylor and picked him up in two other leagues. Both of those leagues I have Tracy and so long as I feel good that Singletary is out I'm going with Tracy and my main holdup on Sermon is the lack of passing game involvment which is why I commented on Winz saying he was going with him due to his passing game work. That was not jiving with my data.
As I said, I think Sermon will see more than Akers in the passing game, not that that's alot. It wasn't even Sermon or Akers that made me make that decision - it was Ogunbowale. Just look at his stats and it's clear he is a pass-catching specialist. I still expect Ogunbowale to eat into Akers' passing downs more than Goodson eats into Sermon's. But as you, rockaction, and jurrassic have pointed out, I haven't really looked enough into Goodson eating into the total pie for Sermon. Perhaps it'll be more of a RBBC and I have rose glasses because I have crappy options this week.I am starting him over Akers, simply because I think he will see more in the passing game.
AmenHopefully Trey delivers a Sermon about kicking *** and taking names on Sunday.
Because, if anything, Trey Sermon has a history of delivering FF owners to the promised land.Hopefully Trey delivers a Sermon about kicking *** and taking names on Sunday.
I ended up picking up Goodson instead and think if you had to play one he's the one who will end up at least GL opportunity. I have a big decision on my 2 RB and possible flex spot over Odunze with him, Akers,Allen and Dowdle or start 3 and put Odunze on the bench.I don’t know.
Steichen said it was going to be a RBBC.
Anyone ever really seen Goodson run? He looks good. He can move a bit. I don't know. Sermon hasn't exactly lit it up when he's been in the games in the pros. He had one good game, IIRC. Of course, I'm just jealous I don't roster him and get to start him, but back to Goodson.
I really liked Goodson when he was on the Packers and thought he was going to stick, but if memory serves he got injured and we moved on.I don’t know.
Steichen said it was going to be a RBBC.
Anyone ever really seen Goodson run? He looks good. He can move a bit. I don't know. Sermon hasn't exactly lit it up when he's been in the games in the pros. He had one good game, IIRC. Of course, I'm just jealous I don't roster him and get to start him, but back to Goodson.
Do people really pay that much attention to Vegas odds of scoring a TD? I know I don't.I really liked Goodson when he was on the Packers and thought he was going to stick, but if memory serves he got injured and we moved on.I don’t know.
Steichen said it was going to be a RBBC.
Anyone ever really seen Goodson run? He looks good. He can move a bit. I don't know. Sermon hasn't exactly lit it up when he's been in the games in the pros. He had one good game, IIRC. Of course, I'm just jealous I don't roster him and get to start him, but back to Goodson.
I too, am on the Sermon/Achane decision cycle today. Vegas odds have Sermon at-115 to score a TD and about 50 or 60 yds rush/rec.
Achane is +160 for a TD and 75yds even money.
I've read it's a decent metric for deciding between two players for start/sit. First year I'm trying it TBH. It helped last week in deciding between an injured Love and Geno...Do people really pay that much attention to Vegas odds of scoring a TD? I know I don't.I really liked Goodson when he was on the Packers and thought he was going to stick, but if memory serves he got injured and we moved on.I don’t know.
Steichen said it was going to be a RBBC.
Anyone ever really seen Goodson run? He looks good. He can move a bit. I don't know. Sermon hasn't exactly lit it up when he's been in the games in the pros. He had one good game, IIRC. Of course, I'm just jealous I don't roster him and get to start him, but back to Goodson.
I too, am on the Sermon/Achane decision cycle today. Vegas odds have Sermon at-115 to score a TD and about 50 or 60 yds rush/rec.
Achane is +160 for a TD and 75yds even money.
Almost as many rushing yards as Joe Flacco. Nice!
My reverse jinx inspired him. He even outrushed Joe!Almost as many rushing yards as Joe Flacco. Nice!
18.3 PPR points. Not bad for a bye week spot start.