RB/WR Ty Montgomery, NE (2 Viewers)

[OnTheReg]

They did last year...  

With less competition behind him. So no, they may hand him the ball less. Look at Seattle last year.. .they did just fine handing their RB1 the ball 5 or so times 

Right when he was a WR during the season and injuries forced them to line him up as a RB. Now he's had an entire offseason as an actual RB. Totally different.

 

[menobrown]

Not to be disrespectful as I am biased party but just seems like a whole lot of nit picking.  Granted he has a very small sample size as an RB but I've heard nothing but great things out of camp and he looked pretty good in the dress rehearsal. 

What do you think I'm nitpicking?

 

[Interseptopus]

Also no disrespect but this is a crutch argument.  He was also pushed into a role he had not trained for at all that season.  You're not going to get 15-18 carries a game at a new position your not prepared for.

I can see that week 3 or 4, but this guy is a professional and by week 16 he was seeing less touches than he was week 4

Right when he was a WR during the season and injuries forced them to line him up as a RB. Now he's had an entire offseason as an actual RB. Totally different.

And last year they had C-Mike as the only compliment at RB. Now they have 3 others. Totally different. 
Sure, if their backfield didn't change at all from last season and CMike and Don Jackson were behind Ty, I'd be on board. GB kept FOUR RBs and 1 FB... they haven't kept that many in as long as I can remember. They absolutely love Mays and Jones, and they are invested in Williams. If you don't think they are going to use them with some meaningful playing time, well then we should just stop this discussion now and I will wish you luck. I'm not invested in this backfield at all, but if Ty does well GB does well and then I'm happy. I'd love to be wrong here, but I just don't see it. 

Best of luck. 

 

[CentralPA]

What do you think I'm nitpicking?

Poor choice of words.  As I said, don't mean any disrespect.

I think too much weight is put on his sickle cell trait and the lack of touches he had last year.  The touches I feel are in part to him learning a whole new system.  And Yes @Dr. Dan he started in week 3 but I'd think it'd take much more than 13 games to get accustomed to pass blocking, audible calls for RB, learning proper run technique (keeping your bound lower to the ground while running instead of upright, which he did the latter the whole season).  He's had all off season to prep for this position now.

The sickle cell trait...granted I don't know anything about it other that in some cases it takes players longer to heal.  I had listen to what Dr. Jene had to say about it a few weeks back on an audible podcast and I believe not all sickle cell trait patients have the red blood cell issue that inhibits healing.  Maybe Montgomery doesn't fall into that category.

Just my PoV.  I'm Pro Ty.  But I can certainly see your doubts.  I am worried that he may have fumblitis.  He had that problem last year.  Might also be the cause of the limited touches.

 

[menobrown]

He's a pretty polarizing player for sure.

I own him in 2 dynasty leagues right now, was 3.  All summer long I've been seeing him pop off in rounds 3 and 4 of redrafts but I tried all summer to move him in dynasty and I was not asking for the sun and moon.  Late 1's this year when drafts had not gone off, future 1's in 2018, players like Alvin Kamara. That kind of thing, absolutely no interest. I got one league I split with someone and we finally dealt him in that league for Hyde and a second and I don't even like Hyde but we needed to clear some roster room and did not need a RB so we made this deal just to try and move Hyde instead when the "he might get cut" rumors started around. So we got Hyde and second, waited for Hyde's value to return and got for him what we could not get for Montgomery, which is a 2018#1.

So in dynasty leagues I'm in no one seems to want him. In redraft leagues he's a third/fourth round player and he's young. Odd disconnect.

Also as a side note. There is this conglomerate of fantasy players who apparently purchased 500 fantasy teams in various high stakes leagues.  This conglomerate won some national contests last year, I personally respect all of their fantasy football knowledge but when you do that many teams I don't know how to determine if success is based on quality or quantity but again I think this group is good at what they do. That being said I bring them up because I've been in a lot of drafts against them, well almost all of my drafts, and they consistently pick Montgomery in every single draft. I'm sure in some drafts someone takes him before they can but they've been using thirds on him. So chances are these very good fantasy players, with a whopping commitment to fantasy that will be well in excess of $100K in entry fees, is not the least bit scared of spending premium picks on Montgomery and I'd be willing to bet when all said and done he'll be on like 80+% of their teams and only times they won't get him is when someone else beats them to it.

 

[menobrown]

Poor choice of words.  As I said, don't mean any disrespect.

I think too much weight is put on his sickle cell trait and the lack of touches he had last year.  The touches I feel are in part to him learning a whole new system.  And Yes @Dr. Dan he started in week 3 but I'd think it'd take much more than 13 games to get accustomed to pass blocking, audible calls for RB, learning proper run technique (keeping your bound lower to the ground while running instead of upright, which he did the latter the whole season).  He's had all off season to prep for this position now.

The sickle cell trait...granted I don't know anything about it other that in some cases it takes players longer to heal.  I had listen to what Dr. Jene had to say about it a few weeks back on an audible podcast and I believe not all sickle cell trait patients have the red blood cell issue that inhibits healing.  Maybe Montgomery doesn't fall into that category.

Just my PoV.  I'm Pro Ty.  But I can certainly see your doubts.  I am worried that he may have fumblitis.  He had that problem last year.  Might also be the cause of the limited touches.

No problem and much respect to your polite way of disagreeing.

The sickle cell trait is an issue for me and something I've read up on quite a bit because I not only own some Montgomery but have him on same team(s) as John Brown. It's a real issue with respect to time frame recovery of soft tissue injuries.  While you are entitled to believe Monty does not fall into this category it seemed to be an issue last year.  Monty also had soft tissue injury in camp and in his career has a long assortment of soft tissue injuries. While I don't know if those injuries are related to the sickle cell trait I'm going with what seems most likely. And to me we know it was an issue last year, I know he's had a long history of soft tissue injuries, I'm formulating my opinion of him as the sickle cell trait as a likely contributor.

 

[Interseptopus]

Yeah everyone is entitled to their opinion. I wish all owners luck and I hope he's successful. I certainly wouldn't be confident with him as my RB2 but I'd be feeling like I could do much much worse. He has RB1 upside, definitely. I don't see GB giving TY Montgomery 15 attempts a game over the course of a full season. Eddie Lacy had 18 and 15 attempts per game in 2013 and 2014. Ty Montgomery is no rookie/2nd year Eddie Lacy IMO. If you think otherwise more power to you, but let's put that into perspective...

(Say this out loud) 1st round prospect, 2nd round pick Eddie Lacy had 18 and 15 carrys per game in his 2 best years in GB. Converted WR Ty Montgomery is going to average what rookie of the year Eddie Lacy averaged. (do you still believe it?)

If that happens, then Ty will have done some major overhaul in the off-season, will play a full 16 games at RB and will be the centerpeice of the offense. If that happens he's not a RB2... he's a top 10 RB. 

I don't think one can say he's going to get 15 carries a game and "he's a good RB2 drafted round 4." Both can't be true. If (the best case scenario proposed here) he stays healthy, gets 15 carries a game, and his typical 4-5 receptions, he's going to be easily a RB1. 

 

[CentralPA]

No problem and much respect to your polite way of disagreeing.

The sickle cell trait is an issue for me and something I've read up on quite a bit because I not only own some Montgomery but have him on same team(s) as John Brown. It's a real issue with respect to time frame recovery of soft tissue injuries.  While you are entitled to believe Monty does not fall into this category it seemed to be an issue last year.  Monty also had soft tissue injury in camp and in his career has a long assortment of soft tissue injuries. While I don't know if those injuries are related to the sickle cell trait I'm going with what seems most likely. And to me we know it was an issue last year, I know he's had a long history of soft tissue injuries, I'm formulating my opinion of him as the sickle cell trait as a likely contributor.

Sounds like you've read up more on it than I have.  I'm not fully aware of Ty's injury history but it's probably a good bet he probably does heal slower just like John Brown.  I'm just saying there is a chance he might not.  No idea.  I do know he was hurt during camp this year and like you said, it was a soft tissue injury, but he seemed to bounce back pretty fast from it.

 

[CentralPA]

Yeah everyone is entitled to their opinion. I wish all owners luck and I hope he's successful. I certainly wouldn't be confident with him as my RB2 but I'd be feeling like I could do much much worse. He has RB1 upside, definitely. I don't see GB giving TY Montgomery 15 attempts a game over the course of a full season. Eddie Lacy had 18 and 15 attempts per game in 2013 and 2014. Ty Montgomery is no rookie/2nd year Eddie Lacy IMO. If you think otherwise more power to you, but let's put that into perspective...

(Say this out loud) 1st round prospect, 2nd round pick Eddie Lacy had 18 and 15 carrys per game in his 2 best years in GB. Converted WR Ty Montgomery is going to average what rookie of the year Eddie Lacy averaged. (do you still believe it?)

If that happens, then Ty will have done some major overhaul in the off-season, will play a full 16 games at RB and will be the centerpeice of the offense. If that happens he's not a RB2... he's a top 10 RB. 

I don't think one can say he's going to get 15 carries a game and "he's a good RB2 drafted round 4." Both can't be true. If (the best case scenario proposed here) he stays healthy, gets 15 carries a game, and his typical 4-5 receptions, he's going to be easily a RB1. 

OK, some valid points.  I will say that even though Lacy was a pedigree RB he was also, by all accounts, out of shape.  It sounds like Ty will be in phenomenal shape.  He's also had all off season to prep for this.  He's worked out with Adrian Peterson (who I believe sung his praises as being ready for the position but that may not mean much).  He's also worked with RB specialist coach I believe on his footwork.  Sounds like he put in the time to learn the position and it also sounds like the coaches are pleased with his progress.

He may not get 15 carries per avg but at least 15 touches seems like a pretty good bet.

I just absolutely love the guys upside.  RB1 with a Top 10 finish potential.  I was able to nab his in Rd 6 of my PPR dynasty (3-keeper) draft.  love that value.

 

[Interseptopus]

OK, some valid points.  I will say that even though Lacy was a pedigree RB he was also, by all accounts, out of shape.  It sounds like Ty will be in phenomenal shape.  He's also had all off season to prep for this.  He's worked out with Adrian Peterson (who I believe sung his praises as being ready for the position but that may not mean much).  He's also worked with RB specialist coach I believe on his footwork.  Sounds like he put in the time to learn the position and it also sounds like the coaches are pleased with his progress.

He may not get 15 carries per avg but at least 15 touches seems like a pretty good bet.

I just absolutely love the guys upside.  RB1 with a Top 10 finish potential.  I was able to nab his in Rd 6 of my PPR dynasty (3-keeper) draft.  love that value.

13 and 14 his weight wasn't an issue 15 he porked out and 16 he was at weight but porked out by October. 

I don't doubt Ty has prepared himself to be "the guy" at RB. He is a unique athlete. He is very much in the same body type as AP. 15 touches is way more realistic IMO. 

I like him for the right price. As a RB2, again, I'd be okay with that but I'd have a good RB3 just in case. As a RB3/flex I'd be absolutely thrilled. Because worst case scenario you have a pretty good RB3/flex for the majority of the season. Best case scenario you have a Rb1 on your hands playing flex

 

[Phenomena]

Yes, Ty would be a decent 3rd or 4th round RB2, but IMO you can do better. Abdullah is just as likely, if not more, as Ty to do well and he can be had round 5 or 6.  
Yes, any RB can get hurt at any time. But would you also agree that certain factors may make some RBs more predisposed to injury than others based on running style, physical traits, genetic disorders, etc? Do you think it's just a coincidence several players are frequently hurt? Does Jordan Reed just have bad luck, or maybe is there something with how his body is made up or plays that makes him more risk for injury so that he's never played 16 games, but several workhorse TEs have? 

No, he's not a workhorse RB. Last season with Christine Michael as the only RB behind him, he only cracked >10 carries once during the regular season, averaging 6.8 attempts per game. That's not the definition of a workhorse IMO. A workhorse gets 15-18 carries a game. 

Sure, we could say a whole off-season of working as a RB maybe the coaching staff trusts him more and he feels more natural at the RB position.
We could also say that there were zero RBs behind Ty Montgomery last year, and now they have 3 RBs behind him that run just fine, less of the pie to go around. Would they really have kept 5 RBs if they had full faith in Montgomery and weren't' going to use all 5? 

GB is not a running team. People thinking Ty is going to offer 8-10 targets in the passing game a week are going to be sorely disappointed. After he got hurt last year, he never saw more than 5 targets during the regular season again. 

IMO what you're looking at for Montgomery per game:
3-4 receptions
35 receiving yards
6 attempts 
40 rushing yards
A chance at a long score but not getting any goal line carries

In PPR leagues that'll work out to 11 points a game. That's probably good enough for a RB2, especially if he gets a score then you're sitting pretty good. If you can live with that, great. If you're expecting a lot more, well then best of luck to you. I think the above is fairly reasonable if not forgiving given his surrounding cast. 

 

This is a really bad post -_-

Top WRs may not get 8-10 targets most weeks - you're expecting way too much. I would be thrilled with a RB2 that was getting 5 targets a week and that seems very doable for Ty.

The reason they didn't overload Ty last year  was because he made the switch IN-SEASON. They weren't going to throw 15-18 attempts a game at someone who had no idea what they were doing as a RB.  That's not the case this year - he's had a full off-season to get accustomed to the RB position.

I do not think it's unrealistic at all to expect Ty to average 15 rushes per game. That's 240 on the season which is right in line with what McCarthy usually expects of his lead back.

240 carries with a modest efficiency still results in easily over 1,000 yards. Add another 2-3 catches per game and you're talking lower RB1 territory. Given his risks, he's going in RB2 range which is reasonable.

Honestly, the only thing I'm worried about is TDs.  Rodgers likes to toss it in the end-zone when they hit the red-zone and Jamaal is more of a power back for the goal-line.  Other than that I think he's a steal in the late 3rd or early 4th in any format, especially PPR.

 

[packer_junkie]

Im much more concerned about him staying healthy than I am about his workload. No way he sees less than 13-15 touches a game in my opinion. 

 

[Interseptopus]

This is a really bad post -_-

Top WRs may not get 8-10 targets most weeks - you're expecting way too much. I would be thrilled with a RB2 that was getting 5 targets a week and that seems very doable for Ty.

The reason they didn't overload Ty last year  was because he made the switch IN-SEASON. They weren't going to throw 15-18 attempts a game at someone who had no idea what they were doing as a RB.  That's not the case this year - he's had a full off-season to get accustomed to the RB position.

I do not think it's unrealistic at all to expect Ty to average 15 rushes per game. That's 240 on the season which is right in line with what McCarthy usually expects of his lead back.

240 carries with a modest efficiency still results in easily over 1,000 yards. Add another 2-3 catches per game and you're talking lower RB1 territory. Given his risks, he's going in RB2 range which is reasonable.

Honestly, the only thing I'm worried about is TDs.  Rodgers likes to toss it in the end-zone when they hit the red-zone and Jamaal is more of a power back for the goal-line.  Other than that I think he's a steal in the late 3rd or early 4th in any format, especially PPR.

A regular RB getting 15 carries and 5 targets a week may work out to about 12-14 points a game without a score. And yeah, that'd be great. I've said many times if my RB2 would score 10-12 points a game every week I'd be very happy. But, from my perspective, Ty isn't going to get 15 carries a game and he isn't going to get many goal line attempts with Ripkowski showing he could do it last year, and Williams a better between the tackle runner than Ty. 

I bring up 8-10 targets because his most valuable 2016 weeks in fantasy he got 11 and 13 targets. Then he got hurt, healed slowly, and was never used that heavy again. To me, that's telling.

I'd love to be wrong. If Ty is getting/earning 15 carries and 5 targets, then GB is likely a super bowl favorite, because then their offense would be unstoppable. 

We differ on how we think he will be used, and that's fine. Watching the talent behind him I think it's unlikely that GB doesn't give Williams, Mays, and Jones each some kind of carries during the season. At least 2 of those 3. Jones is the most complete. Williams is said to be a better true runner than Montgomery but looked not so much during the preseason. Mays wasn't supposed to make the active roster but impressed them during the preseason. GB hasn't run the ball with a lead back as you suggest since Eddie Lacy's best seasons (when he was at weight) in 2013 and 2014. I don't see them doing that with Ty TBH but maybe I'm wrong. No use debating what we're about to find out in the next few days/weeks. Not going to change any minds at this point, just hope Ty owners are at least prepared for worst case. Best of luck and I hope it works out for you. 

 

[Faust]

Ty Montgomery rushed 19 times for 54 yards and a touchdown in the Packers' Week 1 win over the Seahawks, adding four receptions for 39 additional yards.

Montgomery's 23 touches were a new career high by four. It was a clear commitment to Montgomery as the Packers' feature back. He out-touched backup Jamaal Williams 23-2. It might have been 23-0 had Montgomery not briefly checked out with a foot/ankle issue. Obviously the numbers don't jump off the page, but Montgomery was facing one of the feistiest run defenses in the league. The touches are the takeaway, and what fantasy owners needed to see. Montgomery will be a high-end RB2 for Week 2 against the Falcons.

 

[msudaisy26]

If he stays healthy he is going to be a huge difference maker for teams. Solid floor, he won't be out for tough running teams because of his receiving ability and he will get 15+ touches a week on one of the best offenses in the league.

But it is a big if on health.

 

[EBF]

Interesting note from this game:

Devante Mays - Active

Aaron Jones - Inactive

Not sure if it's special teams related, but Mays also played ahead of Jones in the third preseason game.

 

[Faust]

Ty Montgomery played 74-of-82 snaps in the Packers' Week 1 win over the Seahawks.

If not for an injury which knocked him out for a few plays, it likely would have been even more. Jamaal Williams was the only other running back to get any playing time, and he saw just six snaps. It is clear the Packers plan to use Montgomery as their every-down back. That may eventually lead to injury, but until then he will be a high-end RB2.

Sep 11 - 10:05 AM

 

[Faust]

The James White effect: How Ty Montgomery could help Packers beat the Falcons

 

[kittenmittens]

Interesting note from this game:

Devante Mays - Active

Aaron Jones - Inactive

Not sure if it's special teams related, but Mays also played ahead of Jones in the third preseason game.

That's because Jones is beyond raw.  I don't know why people are touting him as a better long term play than Williams...  They are wrong until Jones shows he can actually be a complete player.  Mccarthy will take zero chances with Rodgers getting smoked on a miss pass protection. 

 

[Faust]

Ty Montgomery rushed 10 times for 35 yards and a touchdown in Week 2 against the Falcons.

He also caught six passes for 75 yards and a receiving touchdown. With Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb sidelined, Montgomery had a bigger pass game role -- getting targeted seven times. He continued to be used as an every-down back, but is now averaging just 3.1 YPC through two games. There's some concern over if Montgomery will hold up over a full workload. Montgomery could be in for a heavy Week 3 role if Nelson and Cobb miss time.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

100+ & 2 TDs and people are worried about Ty. 

I think he's dreamy.  

 

[EBF]

I have him in 5/7 dynasties and I'll ride the train as long as it's on the tracks, but Ty is pretty unproven as a featured back and the Pack drafted three RBs this year. Doesn't exactly scream confidence in their starter. His YPC is also pretty brutal so far, though the sample size is tiny. My hunch is that he won't be a long-term starting RB in the NFL, but he's a must-start every week in PPR until something happens.

 

[msudaisy26]

I have him in 5/7 dynasties and I'll ride the train as long as it's on the tracks, but Ty is pretty unproven as a featured back and the Pack drafted three RBs this year. Doesn't exactly scream confidence in their starter. His YPC is also pretty brutal so far, though the sample size is tiny. My hunch is that he won't be a long-term starting RB in the NFL, but he's a must-start every week in PPR until something happens.

I disagree with most of this. All those backs were drafted in the 4th round or later, they didn't sign anyone to come in and compete with him. This sounds like they are very confident in him. What were they going to do? Roll with 1rb on the team? 

The Packers are already down 2 lineman and their 1st game was against a great defense. From the time he took over as the starter last year he has been the most elusive back in the league and averaged around 5 ypc last year. 

I do agree that he might not be a starting back in the NFL, but he could still be useful as a passing back and change of pace getting 12 to 18 touches a week and be a solid rb2 for fantasy. 

 

[Bracie Smathers]

I think he's a unique talent that rarely comes off the field.

He may not fit the traditional RB bell-cow fantasy stud stereotype he gets the job done.

They can line him up at any WR position and he has a nose for the end zone.

The Pack tends to wear out their WRs so he will get a full workload at RB and or RB/WR so long as he's healthy.

Right now he is healthy so I'm starting him with confidence. 

 

[Todem]

He is my RB2 right now (have Chris Carson and Derrick Henry behind him) and took a shot on him at 4.02 in a 12 team redraft standard scoring league.

I have been extremely pleased. Why? Well of course the production. But he rarely comes off the field, has no real competition for carries (drafted Jamal Williams as a cuff), and is a unique weapon on a team that loves to throw the ball.

In redraft leagues he is absolute gold this year. 

If you own him in dynasty......and have excellent RB depth. I would be a high seller right now.

 

[The Dude]

He's done great for you guys overall - but I think you have to be a little concerned about how poorly he has ran the ball over the last two weeks.

 

[sho nuff]

He's done great for you guys overall - but I think you have to be a little concerned about how poorly he has ran the ball over the last two weeks.

Concerned?

Not at all...

 

[OnTheReg]

I have no concern whatsoever, he's going to be a very good PPR back at the very least all year. 

 

[msudaisy26]

He's done great for you guys overall - but I think you have to be a little concerned about how poorly he has ran the ball over the last two weeks.

Come on, they faced a good defense and missing 3 starters on the line. Plus I don't see Williams tearing it up on his few carries. 

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

He's done great for you guys overall - but I think you have to be a little concerned about how poorly he has ran the ball over the last two weeks.

If anything, I feel the exact opposite, especially after watching him run over the last few weeks.

This past week, he was the single bright spot of the O, looking both elusive and running with power. TDs in both games, 93 and 110 all purpose yards, averaging 5 catches a game (which helps even more if you are in PPR). He is (both by usage and skill set) a 3-down back.

Better yet, he looks the part of a main back, having bulked up. Multiple runs these last two weeks, have seen him lower the shoulder, seek contact, and drive the pile forward. 

Bigger concern is the rest of the GB offense, which has been anemic. But Ty has so far played as a bona fide RB1.

 

[Todem]

And they were missing two starters on the OL to boot this week.

 

[zoonation]

Anyone selling?  I can't shake this feeling that he doesn;t make it through the season.  He runs so hard and they run him hard.  I get that he is the centrepiece of the offense right now and I love the guy's skill set, but are we on borrowed time here?  His value can't get much higher.

Thoughts?

 

[Interseptopus]

Anyone selling?  I can't shake this feeling that he doesn;t make it through the season.  He runs so hard and they run him hard.  I get that he is the centrepiece of the offense right now and I love the guy's skill set, but are we on borrowed time here?  His value can't get much higher.

Thoughts?

That's been a topic of discussion since he got hurt after 2 weeks of being given the lead back role last season.

I don't think he can hold up. I do think he will get hurt, but how severe is anyone's guess. I would sell for the right price, but I'd probably hold just because Williams hasn't done much of anything and Jones/Mays haven't received a regular season carry yet. But they may not until Ty goes down. 

I think you're good either way... selling or holding... if I had him I'd probably hold until I found out what's going on with Nelson/Cobb because if they miss significant time Ty's value could go sky high, then I'd sell. I don't think he plays a full 16

 

[Faust]

Packers likely to lighten Ty Montgomery's hefty early load

 

[Avery]

That's been a topic of discussion since he got hurt after 2 weeks of being given the lead back role last season.

I don't think he can hold up. I do think he will get hurt, but how severe is anyone's guess. I would sell for the right price, but I'd probably hold just because Williams hasn't done much of anything and Jones/Mays haven't received a regular season carry yet. But they may not until Ty goes down. 

I think you're good either way... selling or holding... if I had him I'd probably hold until I found out what's going on with Nelson/Cobb because if they miss significant time Ty's value could go sky high, then I'd sell. I don't think he plays a full 16

To my eyes, he looks bigger and stronger and he's running with better lean this year.  All in all, he's looking more like a RB and I don't see why he couldn't handle the load like any other RB although his heavy work load would be concerning for any RB.

Having said all that I did just sell him, but I got David Johnson in return (with a 2018 1st in a dynasty league) but I don't really have significantly higher concerns with him versus any other RB.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Packers likely to lighten Ty Montgomery's hefty early load

Based on one beat writer's opinion. I saw this on rotoworld and shook my head. 

Coach basically said they want to get more rotations in, but didn't address Montgomery at all.

i have the feeling the sky is gonna be falling all year with this guy. 

He's looked fantastic against two really good rushing defenses, he's going to get a ton of receptions and a ton of carries plus he's the RZ & short yardage back. He's bigger than he was last year & looks like an NFL RB.

I'll just keep running him out every week enjoying his top 5-10 production as my PPR RB2 3rd rounder in both leagues. Y'all can continue with your narratives about sickle cell, or workload or likelyhood of injury...hopefully you backed him up with JWill (who's looked terrible in limited use) like you would any RB1 or 2 on your roster. 

if he gets hurt he gets hurt. All players get hurt. So far he's healthy and looks great. Why not enjoy the ride? 

Prediction: Montgomery plays 16 games but his trade value is depressed all year because no one believes in him. 

 

[Interseptopus]

To my eyes, he looks bigger and stronger and he's running with better lean this year.  All in all, he's looking more like a RB and I don't see why he couldn't handle the load like any other RB although his heavy work load would be concerning for any RB.

Having said all that I did just sell him, but I got David Johnson in return (with a 2018 1st in a dynasty league) but I don't really have significantly higher concerns with him versus any other RB.

idk I think it's just because he hasn't hasn't had that kind of work load ever in his life. so no one's guess is any better than the next. 

he does look bigger and looks like a rb. I am pleased to be wrong about him so far but I can see them feeding the rookies more as they learn the playbook and speed of the game. but they will never be rbbc. i see a potential rotation similar to what DAL has used, TEN and OAK use where every 3rd series he gets a rest and JWill and Jones or Mays split the carries on that drive. that's the extent of lightening the load I can ever see GB doing

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

idk I think it's just because he hasn't hasn't had that kind of work load ever in his life. so no one's guess is any better than the next. 

he does look bigger and looks like a rb. I am pleased to be wrong about him so far but I can see them feeding the rookies more as they learn the playbook and speed of the game. but they will never be rbbc. i see a potential rotation similar to what DAL has used, TEN and OAK use where every 3rd series he gets a rest and JWill and Jones or Mays split the carries on that drive. that's the extent of lightening the load I can ever see GB doing

Agreed - Packers have wanted a guy to be "the guy" since they first started Lacy. 

They will feature Montgomery as long as Montgomery is healthy enough to be featured. 

 

[Phantom Knight]

Had Montgomery in 2 leagues (both 12-team ppr). Cashed out in both leagues this week, in each case for a 2018 1st.

Figured that while he might increase in value, I am concerned about his durability/heal-ability and I am happy to take the sure "bird in the hand" for what was a fcfs addition to both teams last year.

 

[joey]

Had Montgomery in 2 leagues (both 12-team ppr). Cashed out in both leagues this week, in each case for a 2018 1st.

Figured that while he might increase in value, I am concerned about his durability/heal-ability and I am happy to take the sure "bird in the hand" for what was a fcfs addition to both teams last year.

Tried getting a 1st for him this week to no avail. :(

 

[hxperson]

Had Montgomery in 2 leagues (both 12-team ppr). Cashed out in both leagues this week, in each case for a 2018 1st.

Figured that while he might increase in value, I am concerned about his durability/heal-ability and I am happy to take the sure "bird in the hand" for what was a fcfs addition to both teams last year.

Not that it is a bad trade, but wouldn't a future draft pick be the exact opposite of a "bird in the hand"?

 

[Phantom Knight]

Not that it is a bad trade, but wouldn't a future draft pick be the exact opposite of a "bird in the hand"?

Got me!

It has been my intention for awhile now to cash out at some point. So, though unclear, I was meaning to compare return on my investment of a fcfs pickup: a "sure" 1st vs possibly more...or possibly nothing.

 

[Avery]

Got me!

It has been my intention for awhile now to cash out at some point. So, though unclear, I was meaning to compare return on my investment of a fcfs pickup: a "sure" 1st vs possibly more...or possibly nothing.

A performing young #1 RB that catches a lot of passes in strong offense should be worth more than a 1st round pick, IMO.

 

[Phantom Knight]

A performing young #1 RB that catches a lot of passes in strong offense should be worth more than a 1st round pick, IMO.

He will be to some.  He is not to others (as noted by someone who tried and could not get a 1st).  I am content to cash in for a 1st given my concerns about his durability and his initial cost to me.

 

[Interseptopus]

good of a time as any to sell high on him IMO but I can see people holding. He's out performing his ASP and if he keeps it up he will be one of those guys that takes you a long way. if he gets hurt he obviously won't. so I see both sides to this and I think both are good choices depending what you can get... seems to be getting a lot in return in dynasty

fwiw if I owned him in my redraft keeper league I'd be holding. dynasty I'd probably be selling if I could get a 1st rounder. maybe I'd consider selling if I were deep at RB in redraft.

 

[Phantom Knight]

Fwiw if I owned him in my redraft keeper league I'd be holding. dynasty I'd probably be selling if I could get a 1st rounder. maybe I'd consider selling if I were deep at RB in redraft.

This is where I stand as well. In redraft (or in a "win now" window [particularly where Montgomery would be a team's rb2 or (worse) rb1]), I'd not have traded him.

But in dynasty (particularly in rebuild or not-quite-there-yet mode), he is an asset I would cash in for the right price.

 

[EBF]

The problem with Ty in dynasty is that he's the kind of player everybody wants, but nobody wants to give up anything for. I've gotten a lot of offers for him in the past few months, but it was always lowball type stuff where people would offer junk and basically try to get him without really giving up anything.

I did sell in one league for Kendall Wright and a 1st round dev pick, but I have a lot of bodies at RB there (Mixon, D Martin, Abdullah, Perine, Myles Gaskin). In most of my leagues I'm just keeping him and enjoying the points while they last. He only cost me a 3rd-4th round rookie pick in those leagues and from my perspective getting anything less than a 1st rounder back for him is barely worth the trouble.

 

[ratbast]

I targeted him in both my keeper leagues and I'm not selling unless there's an RB like Henry involved. I feel it would take injury for me not to continue to profit and since all RBs are very susceptible to injury and me not being God I can't be too prediction based with this. He is a young bell cow in a high powered offence which is better status that he had at my draft when everyone was hyping the rook. If I had better RBs beyond him I might sell for a stud WR in my nonppr but I'm more interested in going after Williams on the cheap. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Just read Packers won't have either of their starting tackles this Thursday.

probably not good for the offense in general,  but also maybe another down week for Ty rushing yardage-wise. 

Hope for a season high dump off receptions - like 27 or something. lol

 

[Interseptopus]

Just read Packers won't have either of their starting tackles this Thursday.

probably not good for the offense in general,  but also maybe another down week for Ty rushing yardage-wise. 

Hope for a season high dump off receptions - like 27 or something. lol

Ty's best game as a receiving RB came against CHI. He also had his kidneys bruised or whatever too. I expect Ty to get a number of dump offs but I fear the GB staff is seeing him break down a little too. There has been a little bit of grumbling around here. But if they want to beat CHI they need to get him involved. The rookies are not ready yet.