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RB/WR Ty Montgomery, NE (1 Viewer)

BigSteelThrill said:
Under standard care, yeah.  I'm hoping they ramp up their tech use.

Hell, I'm hoping everyone ramps up their tech use. I help so many people heal faster these days its crazy compared to how it used to be.
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Gopher State said:
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BigSteelThrill said:
Ill guess 3 weeks.
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After 3 games, he gets 2 more off before the next game due to the bye.  Makes perfect sense to have him miss 3 games with this, and return healthy for their next game on November 6th.

 
Deamon said:
After 3 games, he gets 2 more off before the next game due to the bye.  Makes perfect sense to have him miss 3 games with this, and return healthy for their next game on November 6th.
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I agree.They likely will hold him out until after the Bye Week(8). Back in Week 9.

 
I think its way too early to speculate on missed time.

I think it depends on A) the severity & B) How well Jones/Mays play

The next two road games are monstrous & if he can go-- I think he will.

Just a quick note: Last year when Jordy busted his ribs vs the Giants in the playoffs-- he was in the hospital in the second half, getting treatment, etc-- I believe he stayed overnight. Montgomery after his broken rib(s)-- was on the sideline in sweats. Not all rib injuries are equal-- I know in Jordy's case-- it was a matter of how much damage was done under the ribs and what he could wear to protect it-- I'd imagine its the same with Montgomery. If its a much smaller injury-- I could see him being available in 10 days vs dallas or in 17 days vs minnesota.

Or of course he could miss a month. 

 
packer_junkie said:
I think its way too early to speculate on missed time.

I think it depends on A) the severity & B) How well Jones/Mays play

The next two road games are monstrous & if he can go-- I think he will.

Just a quick note: Last year when Jordy busted his ribs vs the Giants in the playoffs-- he was in the hospital in the second half, getting treatment, etc-- I believe he stayed overnight. Montgomery after his broken rib(s)-- was on the sideline in sweats. Not all rib injuries are equal-- I know in Jordy's case-- it was a matter of how much damage was done under the ribs and what he could wear to protect it-- I'd imagine its the same with Montgomery. If its a much smaller injury-- I could see him being available in 10 days vs dallas or in 17 days vs minnesota.

Or of course he could miss a month. 
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Fair point, but I imagine rib injuries are trickier for RBs when you get slammed there on nearly every carry. Not to say WRs aren't clearly exposed either, but it's not a collision course with 300+ lb guys every play.

 
Don't agree with the injury risk label.  The guy took a blow to the ribs.  He plays at a position where durability is an rarity.  I feel that is a crutch argument and indeed a narrative.

Respectfully disagree with those putting the injury prone label on Montgomery.

 
CentralPA said:
Don't agree with the injury risk label.  The guy took a blow to the ribs.  He plays at a position where durability is an rarity.  I feel that is a crutch argument and indeed a narrative.

Respectfully disagree with those putting the injury prone label on Montgomery.
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Yeah, I was down on Ty this year but wasn't really expecting an injury - although I put him at a slightly higher risk than someone who had done it all their life since we don't know how his knees and ankles will hold up to the rigors of the position. But I mainly thought he'd get benched for his crappy pass blocking.

Anyway, labeling a guy injury prone for getting injured on a play where anybody else would get injured seems silly to me. Some guys just have too many instances of a specific issue to overlook... Danario Alexander - ligaments, Miles Austin - soft tissue, and now it appears Kevin White has brittle bones. But things like broken ribs or a lacerated kidney or even a single ACL tear... these things don't concern me long-term.

 
I'd be totally fine with him missing 3 weeks + the bye and get a full month's rest to prepare for the stretch run.  The Packers are 3-1 and will coast to a playoff spot so we just need everyone healthy in December.

 
Where are people getting 3 weeks from? 

If he has broken ribs, it is more of a put on a rib jacket and it's a pain tolerance thing. Of course there's risk for puncturing organs including the lungs, so that's pretty serious, but it depends how badly those ribs are broken. 

He could miss no time... He has 10 days to get ready. Jordy Nelson broke ribs last year and missed 1 week I believe. 

 
Phenomena said:
I'd be totally fine with him missing 3 weeks + the bye and get a full month's rest to prepare for the stretch run.  The Packers are 3-1 and will coast to a playoff spot so we just need everyone healthy in December.
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I will survive without him, as I have some depth at RB in both leagues, I just hate spending my #1 WW priority on a handcuff because I lost both the player and the handcuff. 

Also, I'm not sure where you're getting 4 weeks.  Rib injuries can be anywhere from 0 weeks if it's a fracture, or up to 6-8 weeks for full broken ribs from what I've seen in the past. 

 
Dr. Dan said:
Where are people getting 3 weeks from? 

If he has broken ribs, it is more of a put on a rib jacket and it's a pain tolerance thing. Of course there's risk for puncturing organs including the lungs, so that's pretty serious, but it depends how badly those ribs are broken. 

He could miss no time... He has 10 days to get ready. Jordy Nelson broke ribs last year and missed 1 week I believe. 
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Exactly - I shoulda known you'd be all over that response but I posted before I saw yours.  I've seen RBs put on a flak jacket at halftime & come back. I was hoping for that last night. They showed Montgomery standing on the sidelines in the 2nd half, and he didn't look to be in any obvious discomfort - he also apparently suffered the injury on his 2nd or 3rd carry and played through it for a few more before checking out. If this were a much closer game against a competent opponent he may well have come back. 

Seemed not as serious as it could have been - maybe just cracked ribs, not broken. We should know more through the weekend I'd expect. 

 
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King of the Jungle said:
I was able to somehow pickup Jones during the game with Yahoo. Anyone else notice this? 
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Depends on your settings. Locked once the game starts because that’s the setting I chose as Commish. We lock only the TNF players, then the 1pm once those games start, then the 4pm, et al. There’s also a setting to lock ALL players Thu - Tue waivers but that proved unpopular. We never considered allowing adds during the game as many of our guys are season ticket holders.

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Exactly - I shoulda known you'd be all over that response but I posted before I saw yours.  I've seen RBs put on a flak jacket at halftime & come back. I was hoping for that last night. They showed Montgomery standing on the sidelines in the 2nd half, and he didn't look to be in any obvious discomfort - he also apparently suffered the injury on his 2nd or 3rd carry and played through it for a few more before checking out. If this were a much closer game against a competent opponent he may well have come back. 

Seemed not as serious as it could have been - maybe just cracked ribs, not broken. We should know more through the weekend I'd expect. 
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I've cracked ribs.  I broke one clean through as well which I am told is rare.  I've torn the cartilage between them and that connecting them.  Each is painful.  Treatment back in the day was rest.  I did not want to be hit there or to land on a football.  The worst pain, however, was reaching above my shoulders and lifting with arms out.  Seems, if that pertains to injuries nowadays, some 40 years hence, that a pass catching R.B. could be hampered.  I understand they can put a flack jacket in place, and that they can relieve his pain so he does not flinch when reaching for passes, but I would prefer they give him some time, if they can manage without him.  Partially, I would presume, that depends on the heath of other guys.  The Packers are perilously close to  having to place guys out for the season to make roster space for replacements for a few games.  

Cobb can take a few backfield snaps.  I still like the way the Ripper runs, and have forgiven the fumble in Atlanta.  I like the Rooks, but really don't want them pass protecting if we don't at least have our starting tackles back.

 
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Ditkaless Wonders said:
I've cracked ribs.  I broke one clean through as well which I am told is rare.  I've torn the cartilage between them and that connecting them.  Each is painful.  Treatment back in the day was rest.  I did not want to be hit there or to land on a football.  The worst pain, however, was reaching above my shoulders and lifting with arms out.  Seems, if that pertains to injuries nowadays, some 40 years hence, that a pass catching R.B. could be hampered.  I understand they can put a flack jacket in place, and that they can relieve his pain so he does not flinch, but I would prefer they give him some time, if they can manage without him.  Partially, I would presume, that depends on the heath of other guys.  The Packers are perilously close to  having to place guys out for the season to make roster space for replacements for a few games.  

Cobb can take a few backfield snaps.  I still like the way the Ripper runs, and have forgiven the fumble in Atlanta.  I like the Rooks, but really don't want them pass protecting if we don't at least have our starting tackles back.
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I hear sneezing can be a real ##### too.

 
From Rob Demovsky from ESPN:

Can Ty Montgomery come back as quickly as Jordy Nelson did last January from broken ribs? "Every injury is different --w here exactly is it located? The position you play," Packers coach Mike McCarthy said. "I don't really have a clear answer on exactly what Ty is dealing with and how we move forward. I know in my conversations with the trainers, he's preparing to play against Dallas."

http://www.espn.com/milwaukee/

Likely all just coachspeak and optimism, as there are a long 10 days to decide, but interesting nugget. 

 
Stompin' Tom Connors said:
From Rob Demovsky from ESPN:

Can Ty Montgomery come back as quickly as Jordy Nelson did last January from broken ribs? "Every injury is different --w here exactly is it located? The position you play," Packers coach Mike McCarthy said. "I don't really have a clear answer on exactly what Ty is dealing with and how we move forward. I know in my conversations with the trainers, he's preparing to play against Dallas."

http://www.espn.com/milwaukee/

Likely all just coachspeak and optimism, as there are a long 10 days to decide, but interesting nugget. 
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Sounds legit. 

Nelson played through this, as noted in your quote, and I've had several RBs play through cracked ribs over the years wearing the flak jacket/harness thinggie. That Montgomery played through this for 3-4 effective runs before tapping out tells me it's probably cracked ribs and not fully broken ones. 

Of course I concede that you may be right - this could all be gamesmanship, and I am fully preparing to be without Montgomery for 2-3-4 weeks.

But am slightly optimistic based on the fact that this is likely a pain tolerance issue and may be a less significant injury than perhaps initially led to believe. Heck, we still don't know if it's actually broken ribs or even fractured ribs - could just be a bruise or a cartilage issue. If the latter, I could see him playing week 5 since he's got 10 days off. 

Fortunately I've got other options, but if he practices next week and says he's good to go, I'd have trouble keeping him out of my starting lineup against the cowboys. 

 
Ty Montgomery - RB -  Packers

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Ty Montgomery's rib injury is not a serious as initially thought.

This conflicts with earlier reports that Montgomery suffered broken ribs -- an injury that requires 2-4 weeks. Montgomery is "day to day" and could play in Week 5 with Green Bay on an extended layoff. It sounds like Montgomery is only dealing with a bruise or low level fracture. Montgomery was leading the league in snaps before going down, but is unlikely to see a full workload if he plays against the Cowboys.
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Looks promising?  :shrug:

 
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Starting to look like he will miss at least this week. Even if he does play through this injury you have to wonder whether he will be on a pitch count. With GB's OL woes, a banged up RB on a pitch count behind a shaky OL probably isn't the best guy to start. I really I am not sure he will be worth starting until after GB's bye, so Week 9. His ribs should be healed by then as long as he doesn't make the damage worse.

 
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Hoping GB sits him until after their bye which I think they might just do. They are very conservative regarding injured players and I don't think that changes here

 
KingPrawn said:
Hoping GB sits him until after their bye which I think they might just do. They are very conservative regarding injured players and I don't think that changes here
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More Ripkowski time to help protect Rodgers...mix in Jones for the bulk of running, Mays and Williams til they get Ty back.

 
Ty Montgomery (ribs) is practicing on Wednesday.

Jamaal Williams (knee) was also on the field. Montgomery was wearing heavy protection around his ribs Wednesday, but he said it's up to him if he'll play against Dallas. It's more of a pain thing. If Montgomery and Williams are both able to play, that Aaron Jones waiver-claim was all for naught.

Source: ESPN.com

Oct 4 - 2:45 PM

 
Sports Medical Analyst David Chao expects Ty Montgomery (ribs) to miss multiple weeks.

Montgomery is listed as doubtful for Sunday, and isn't a lock to be back next week. According to Sports Injury Predictor, the average player with broken ribs misses at least two games. Working in Montgomery's favor is the fact he was injured last Thursday night -- giving him extra time to get cleared. The Packers will go with Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams in Montgomery's place.

Source: David Chao on Twitter 

Oct 6 - 8:19 PM
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dtroitkid said:
Ty's value took a big hit this week it seems.

What will the situation be when he returns? RBBC?
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no, I don't think Jones was that good. he earned a few carries but GB coaches are on record bashing teams that use RBBC. I see Ty maybe losing 5 or so carries to Jones, but getting the lions share and the receiving work. I think you are safe for now, but something to watch. If Ty can't stay healthy and if Jones continues to improve he could lose his job, but maybe not for a while. imo Jones is the future but Ty is the present 

 
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Dr. Dan said:
no, I don't think Jones was that good. he earned a few carries but GB coaches are on record bashing teams that use RBBC. I see Ty maybe losing 5 or so carries to Jones, but getting the lions share and the receiving work. I think you are safe for now, but something to watch. If Ty can't stay healthy and if Jones continues to improve he could lose his job, but maybe not for a while. imo Jones is the future but Ty is the present 
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Ty Montgomery has never looked as good as Jones did yesterday and is injury prone. I just don't see how they don't give Jones meaningful carries moving forward. Monty needs to worry about his broken ribs before trying to step between the lines again. 

 
FGITLOTR said:
Ty Montgomery has never looked as good as Jones did yesterday and is injury prone. I just don't see how they don't give Jones meaningful carries moving forward. Monty needs to worry about his broken ribs before trying to step between the lines again. 
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Watching actual plays, yes he did look good. His lack of production was not his fault at all. He looked better than last year. 

 
FGITLOTR said:
Ty Montgomery has never looked as good as Jones did yesterday and is injury prone. I just don't see how they don't give Jones meaningful carries moving forward. Monty needs to worry about his broken ribs before trying to step between the lines again. 
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Let the real RB's play RB.  Move Ty back into a gadget role where he belongs.  Ty is a very nice weapon but he's not a feature type RB.

GB needs to stop trying to put a square peg in a round hole.

 
FGITLOTR said:
Ty Montgomery has never looked as good as Jones did yesterday and is injury prone. I just don't see how they don't give Jones meaningful carries moving forward. Monty needs to worry about his broken ribs before trying to step between the lines again. 
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In the game he got hurt, the 1st 5 plays of the game went to Ty and he churned out ~10 YPC. 

No offense, but I find your hyperbolic statement to be inaccurate. I watched much of the game when I got home - Jones looked decent against a below average Cowboys D, but I didn't see anything that special in Jones either. He seemed to take what the OL gave him.  :shrug:

He looked like he could play, but let's not get too carried away. 

 
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ILUVBEER99 said:
Let the real RB's play RB.  Move Ty back into a gadget role where he belongs.  Ty is a very nice weapon but he's not a feature type RB.

GB needs to stop trying to put a square peg in a round hole.
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My sentiments exactly and I imagine the Packer brass realizes this 

 
ILUVBEER99 said:
Let the real RB's play RB.  Move Ty back into a gadget role where he belongs.  Ty is a very nice weapon but he's not a feature type RB.

GB needs to stop trying to put a square peg in a round hole.
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FGITLOTR said:
My sentiments exactly and I imagine the Packer brass realizes this 
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Disagree. As Ty's biggest preseason critic, and someone who follows GB closely, his move to RB was permanent I believe. 

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
In the game he got hurt, the 1st 5 plays of the game went to Ty and he churned out ~10 YPC. 

No offense, but I find your hyperbolic statement to be inaccurate. I watched much of the game when I got home - Jones looked decent against a below average Cowboys D, but I didn't see anything that special in Jones either. He seemed to take what the OL gave him.  :shrug:

He looked like he could play, but let's not get too carried away. 
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Agreed. I like what I saw in Jones very much but the Cowboys gave up over 200 total yards to Gurley the week before. I'll withhold judgement until I see him against the Vikings.

The week before against the Bears Montgomery had 28 yards on 5 carries (5.6 avg.). Jones had 49 yards on 13 carries (3.6 avg.)

 
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