RB/WR Ty Montgomery, NE (3 Viewers)

[Interseptopus]

Your insight into the entire Packers RB situation has generally been very good but these receiving projections are just not realistic without a much higher snap count.

If we believe your assertions about the potential of Aaron Jones then almost by definition Montgomery becomes a handcuff, at best.

As others have pointed out, Montgomery is now a CoP back on a mediocre offense (until AR comes back). 

4-5 carries for 20 yards / 4 recpts for 35-40 yds / virtually no chance at TD's (as long as Jones keeps his current role)

I wasn't thinking terribly in depth about my projections to be honest

I have complete faith in Aaron Jones as an all around running back who can do it all. I'm just surprised by people who are dropping Ty... I think he's still useful in the offense and what he may be used for may be fantasy relevant. 

The big wild card is that we don't know how either will be used with both healthy. Jones would presumably be the lead back, but that hasn't changed on the official depth chart (although I believe Jones got the start last week). I think we will find out pretty quickly how both will be used. I am surprised people are cutting him, unless they absolutely have to for byes, because he could come out and be heavily involved in the passing game. Not likely, but I'd have held him through this week

 

 

[gradin123]

Droppable in all formats. Let's face it -- Montgomery was never going to be a high-volume RB. He had value because he was a dual threat and because he had Aaron Rodgers throwing the ball to him.

If Jones were not in the picture, then you could justify keeping him -- even though his value would be somewhere in the Christian McCaffrey range. But now you're looking at a guy who's going to get maybe 8 rushes (against a stacked defense) but won't be getting very many targets. And even when he does get the occasional catch, it will likely be on a short dumpoff and he won't be getting any receiving TDs.

To put it another way: how many 3rd-down backs on sub-.500 teams are rosterable in fantasy football? Because that's all Montgomery is right now. Forget about his name and his team and his stats from last year. Just look at the current situation: 5-10 touches per game on a crappy team with maybe 1-2 total TDs the reason of the season. That's a BYE week flex at best.

Well I guess he at best could be Duke Johnson like. 

I think it is funny how everyone thinks Aaron Jones is a bankable stud going forward. This is a bad offense going forward and they will be down in games a lot.Game script is going to work against Jones a lot going forward. Against the Saints the Packers got up early and were ahead or close most of the game. Jones looked good but now teams are going to be 8 men in the box all day. I know the OL is healthier now than at any point this year but Detroit has shown they can be decent against the run when they focus on it and I don't expect they will allow Jones to beat them.

Going forward I really could see this being like Cleveland Situation with Crowell=Jones and Montgomery=Duke. The big difference though is GB has much more talent at WR than Cleveland so I don't expect Ty to get as many passes as Duke.

 

[CentralPA]

Well I guess he at best could be Duke Johnson like. 

I think it is funny how everyone thinks Aaron Jones is a bankable stud going forward. This is a bad offense going forward and they will be down in games a lot.Game script is going to work against Jones a lot going forward. Against the Saints the Packers got up early and were ahead or close most of the game. Jones looked good but now teams are going to be 8 men in the box all day. I know the OL is healthier now than at any point this year but Detroit has shown they can be decent against the run when they focus on it and I don't expect they will allow Jones to beat them.

Going forward I really could see this being like Cleveland Situation with Crowell=Jones and Montgomery=Duke. The big difference though is GB has much more talent at WR than Cleveland so I don't expect Ty to get as many passes as Duke.

Maybe..I do think Hundley could be just dangerous enough that defenses will have to respect the pass but since Rodgers has been hurt he hasn't shown that yet.

 

[Interseptopus]

Well I guess he at best could be Duke Johnson like. 

I think it is funny how everyone thinks Aaron Jones is a bankable stud going forward. This is a bad offense going forward and they will be down in games a lot.Game script is going to work against Jones a lot going forward. Against the Saints the Packers got up early and were ahead or close most of the game. Jones looked good but now teams are going to be 8 men in the box all day. I know the OL is healthier now than at any point this year but Detroit has shown they can be decent against the run when they focus on it and I don't expect they will allow Jones to beat them.

Going forward I really could see this being like Cleveland Situation with Crowell=Jones and Montgomery=Duke. The big difference though is GB has much more talent at WR than Cleveland so I don't expect Ty to get as many passes as Duke.

I disagree

1. Jones isn't a bankable stud. No one has said such. Even myself and I have the biggest man crush on him than anyone here. He's a bankable stud in dynasty IMO but not this season. Hundley is not Rodgers
2. Hundley is better than you think
3. Game script benefits Jones... his talents are similar to Ty's. The only reason Ty might be getting more action, possibly, is that he was a WR and should have better hands. But by no means is Jones just a runner
4. If teams go 8 men in the box vs GB Hundley is going to burn them. He is a deep threat. No one is going to go 8 men in the box vs GB... just seems silly given GB's WR talent and Hundley can throw deep. Jones hasn't been that good. 

 

[sho nuff]

I disagree

1. Jones isn't a bankable stud. No one has said such. Even myself and I have the biggest man crush on him than anyone here. He's a bankable stud in dynasty IMO but not this season. Hundley is not Rodgers
2. Hundley is better than you think
3. Game script benefits Jones... his talents are similar to Ty's. The only reason Ty might be getting more action, possibly, is that he was a WR and should have better hands. But by no means is Jones just a runner
4. If teams go 8 men in the box vs GB Hundley is going to burn them. He is a deep threat. No one is going to go 8 men in the box vs GB... just seems silly given GB's WR talent and Hundley can throw deep. Jones hasn't been that good. 

And Jones has shown that if you put a ton of guys in the box he can break out and go the distance.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

“Bankable stud” is really subjective. To me, it means elite or high floor RB1. Jones isn’t that.

 Based on his production and the fact that GB went from a pass first to a run first offense with Rodgers out, Jones looks like he can sustain being a no-brainer Flex start every week. 

And based on those games where he powered past 100 yds, I’d support the argument he is, right now, a reliable RB2.

As a TyMo owner I’m targeting the Jones owner to see if there is any handcuff value there.

 

[gradin123]

I disagree

1. Jones isn't a bankable stud. No one has said such. Even myself and I have the biggest man crush on him than anyone here. He's a bankable stud in dynasty IMO but not this season. Hundley is not Rodgers
2. Hundley is better than you think
3. Game script benefits Jones... his talents are similar to Ty's. The only reason Ty might be getting more action, possibly, is that he was a WR and should have better hands. But by no means is Jones just a runner
4. If teams go 8 men in the box vs GB Hundley is going to burn them. He is a deep threat. No one is going to go 8 men in the box vs GB... just seems silly given GB's WR talent and Hundley can throw deep. Jones hasn't been that good. 

Hundley hasn't proven he can burn anyone yet. Maybe he will but teams are going to force him to prove that. Jordy is looking old and isn't creating much seperation these days and therefore I am not sure other teams really fear the Packers receivers either. I fully expect to see the Lions play man to man on the outside receivers this week. That won't change unless Hundley burns them and you have a lot more faith in Hundley than just about anyone else does. I do expect 8 men in the box on early downs. We'll see. Keep in mind  Jones last performance was against the Saints and they are generally weak vs the run. Howard went off on them too. The Lions on paper don't have a great run D but they have played a lot of high powered offenses. They have been better against the run against weaker passing teams which the Packers clearly are now. They even held Bell pretty much in check last week. They have had 2 bad games vs the run (Falcons and Saints) but otherwise have held every other team to under 100 yards total running. I think if the Pack are going to have any success moving the ball this week it will primarily be through the air.

I see Aaron Jones in the Top 8 in a lot of weekly RB rankings this week and I think that is way too high. 

 

[jacobo_moses]

I've decided even in my 30 man IDP PPR 16 team Dynasty league I might as well drop Ty Montgomery. I can't even get a 4th Rnd Pick or a bag of chips for him. Fantasy community has left him for dead. Even GBP ESPN beat writer just said 

Followed up and asked @RobDemovsky if Jones will be the clear lead back with Ty getting only a few COP touches: "Yes, that's exactly right"

So he is worthless now. What a shame. So much talent. Not the runner A.Jones is but still talented enough. 

 

[The Kerminator]

Not sure why anyone would drop him now. I guess it all depends on what you dropping him for. At worst, he's a good handcuff to Jones in case of injury. No worse than any other handcuff and probably towards the top of the list of top handcuffs to own

Why wouldn't anyone wait to see what the Packers do coming out of their bye? Couple of years ago the Packers were getting shredded on defense and particularly the running game. During their bye the coaching staff made a radical change and moved Clay Matthews to the inside. Right now the Packers are facing a crisis and a do-or-die situation with Rodgers out. I'd wait to see if they make any radical changes on offense coming out of their bye. Maybe they go to the running game more with Hundley at QB and the RB carries are split 60/40. Maybe they go to the short passing game more and he sees an uptick in receptions. Maybe they completely commit to Jones and/or start giving Mays some more carries. Who knows? But why not wait one game and see? You've carried Montgomery this long, what's another week? If nothing pans out this week, then you cut him. If he has a decent game his value increases somewhat and he's at worst a through in to complete a trade.

 

[zed2283]

I see Montgomery as droppable in redraft.  Dynasty is obviously a hold.

I'm really upset with the coaching staff.  Ty was off to a great year and then lost his job to injury.  Jones has looked good, no doubt, but it makes me feel like the coaches were eager to replace Ty.  I don't buy the whole notion that he's not a "real" RB.  He looked great last year and started this year strong.  So I'm not sure what is up, but at this point I think you can drop him in redraft.

 

[JIMGET]

I see Montgomery as droppable in redraft.  Dynasty is obviously a hold.

I'm really upset with the coaching staff.  Ty was off to a great year and then lost his job to injury.  Jones has looked good, no doubt, but it makes me feel like the coaches were eager to replace Ty.  I don't buy the whole notion that he's not a "real" RB.  He looked great last year and started this year strong.  So I'm not sure what is up, but at this point I think you can drop him in redraft.

Don't give up just yet, Jones has looked better than TY.  That being said, I think this is a committee...you can't take much from the games where Ty was still hurt. In the least, Ty will be the passing and 3RB.

 

[joey]

18 player rosters in a Keep 12 dynasty league has made Ty droppable for me. 

He's still sitting on the wire for free as a free agent and no one has bit, so I can get him back if I want. 

I tried to trade him for a 2nd after his first two good games but no one bit. At all. Not even a counter offer. 

I think only Ty owners give a crap about Ty

 

[Interseptopus]

good call Dr. D

 

[DocHolliday]

good call Dr. D

Yep.  Jones is done until next season when Rogers comes back.  This is a short passing O now which fits Ty much better. 

 

[Interseptopus]

Yep.  Jones is done until next season when Rogers comes back.  This is a short passing O now which fits Ty much better. 

I actually wonder if Jones is droppable in redraft TBH... hoping he's dropped in my league. Will snatch him up as a keeper. 

 

[sho nuff]

Yep.  Jones is done until next season when Rogers comes back.  This is a short passing O now which fits Ty much better. 

I actually wonder if Jones is droppable in redraft TBH... hoping he's dropped in my league. Will snatch him up as a keeper. 

After one game?  IMO...seems they need to play games more like they did against NO and to start yesterday.  Control the ball...control the clock.  but take a few more shots at intermediate passing.

I think Monty will have a bigger role going forward...but not sure Jones is just out because of that game.

 

[DocHolliday]

Jones will likely have good games.  However, seems really tough to predict when that will happen with how poorly GB is playing on both sides of the ball.  Ty seems like the better GB RB to own. 

I am holding Jones for now in a redraft league but do not plan on starting him any time soon. 

 

[TheCommish]

I've got Hunt and Lynch on bye this week, so I'll probably have to decide between Ty and Jones ... hoping that I can start Derrick Henry next to him, but that's always a roll of the dice.

I was listening to part of the game on the radio, and the announcers mentioned something about Jones missing a blitz pickup that led to a sack.  That was always the knock on Jones (his pass protection - or lack thereof), so I'm wondering if he got benched after that series, because I don't think I heard from him after that.

 

[Interseptopus]

After one game?  IMO...seems they need to play games more like they did against NO and to start yesterday.  Control the ball...control the clock.  but take a few more shots at intermediate passing.

I think Monty will have a bigger role going forward...but not sure Jones is just out because of that game.

No, not after one game. I think going forward, if this turns into a trend, he might be droppable. It's certainly concerning that Ty was used almost exclusively in the 4th quarter and out-snapped Jones. He also out-performed Jones. 

I just think in redraft his owners thought they had their lotto ticket to a fantasy championship. I even offered Graham and Ajayi for Jones- declined!! Guy had Bennett and Jones was his RB2 due to other scrubs on his team not doing well. Jones is obviously not a RB1, or a RB2 even this year as long as Rodgers is out. Jones might be a good flex option, but after this week I'm not sure anyone can start him with confidence unless they are sitting pretty good in the standings. Maybe flex I'd be starting him and hoping for the best. 

Another 1-2 games like last night and Jones might be dropped by some in redraft. In my league, and several others, Ty Montgomery was dropped after 2 bad games while playing with broken (but healing) ribs. I don't think it's far fetched to suggest if Ty keeps out performing him that Jones would also be dropped by some.  

 

[shadrap]

I've got Hunt and Lynch on bye this week, so I'll probably have to decide between Ty and Jones ... hoping that I can start Derrick Henry next to him, but that's always a roll of the dice.

I was listening to part of the game on the radio, and the announcers mentioned something about Jones missing a blitz pickup that led to a sack.  That was always the knock on Jones (his pass protection - or lack thereof), so I'm wondering if he got benched after that series, because I don't think I heard from him after that.

I think the missed block was the reason.

 

[sho nuff]

I think the missed block was the reason.

And I still wonder about this...its not as if he whiffed on a guy...he picked up the blitz...Hundley stepped up further into the pocket after nobody was open on the first read...and started to run...guy Jones picked up made the tackle from behind then for the sack as Hundley moved up.

 

[shadrap]

And I still wonder about this...its not as if he whiffed on a guy...he picked up the blitz...Hundley stepped up further into the pocket after nobody was open on the first read...and started to run...guy Jones picked up made the tackle from behind then for the sack as Hundley moved up.

dont' know if that was the play or not but Jones got maybe 10 % of one guy blitzing that I saw.  It was close to a whiff.

 

[Joe Summer]

good call Dr. D

You're patting yourself on the back after saying "Hundley is better than you think" and "Hundley is going to burn teams that go 8 in the box"??

Or are you patting yourself on the back because Montgomery's 5 points was so much better than Jones' 3 points?

 

[shadrap]

You're patting yourself on the back after saying "Hundley is better than you think" and "Hundley is going to burn teams that go 8 in the box"??

Or are you patting yourself on the back because Montgomery's 5 points was so much better than Jones' 3 points?

I'm guessing the latter.

 

[DocHolliday]

I think it is funny how everyone thinks Aaron Jones is a bankable stud going forward. This is a bad offense going forward and they will be down in games a lot.Game script is going to work against Jones a lot going forward. Against the Saints the Packers got up early and were ahead or close most of the game. Jones looked good but now teams are going to be 8 men in the box all day. I know the OL is healthier now than at any point this year but Detroit has shown they can be decent against the run when they focus on it and I don't expect they will allow Jones to beat them.

I think Dr D is patting himself on this spot-on analysis.  I was one of those guys that thought Jones was going to be a RB2 at minimum when I snagged him off the WW.  Of course, that was before Rogers was out.  After the Rogers injury, I was hoping Jones would be flex worthy.  I thought Hundley would keep the D honest due to the great receiving options at GB.  Until GB pressures the D by throwing downfield, Ty is the RB to own this season. 

 

[Interseptopus]

You're patting yourself on the back after saying "Hundley is better than you think" and "Hundley is going to burn teams that go 8 in the box"??

Or are you patting yourself on the back because Montgomery's 5 points was so much better than Jones' 3 points?

You must not have watched the game. Ty Montgomery looked better. Out touched, out played Jones. He was the trusted back when the game was somewhat within reach (for a brief 3 minutes). 

I am patting myself on the back for stating: 

I'm shocked that people are dropping Ty... 

Jones looks better but

1. Ty is still recovering from his rib problem
2. They will need a receiving back with Hundley behind center
3. When Ty had a chance early in the season he actually looked good

I'm actually considering dropping Tarik for Montgomery... I think a lot of people dropped him assuming Jones is the lead guy, which he seems to be, but Ty isn't going away. He has some definite fantasy value in PPR leagues.

When GB was passing at the end Ty was in for every snap I believe

I was surprised to see him on my FA list and felt like he's at least a hold for 1 more week, as you said, healthy and to see what the split will be.

 I'm just surprised by people who are dropping Ty... I think he's still useful in the offense and what he may be used for may be fantasy relevant. 

The above is more accurate than "droppable in all formats." Clearly he's not out of GB's offensive picture. They need him. Hundley actually threw the ball deep last night. Last night was more of a failure of the defense than the offense to be honest. If GB is going to be competitive, which I am not so sure of, they need to get Ty Montgomery involved. Many RBs on bad teams have rosterable value. Is Duke Johnson rostered in your league? Ty Montgomery, going forward, has Duke Johnson value IMO. Sorry if you disagree, but last night was hardly a snap volume for a RB who should be on the WW...

GB trusts Ty more right now. Jones has value with Rodgers, because teams have to respect the deep ball. Ty may get more dump offs and passing opportunities than Jones, which i swhere the value is in the GB backfield without Rodgers.

Montomgery, Cobb, Adams seem to be the only players on GB with any kind of value, and that is only in PPR. Nelson's biggest strength is the long ball and Hundley just hasn't shown consistency with that, and he seems to favor Cobb IMO

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

Agree that I think Jones' pass pro issues are what drove the Jones/TyMo distro this game. Seems to me that whether it's Rodgers or Hundley, any team needs a credible running threat to keep the D's honest. But this is MUCH less of an issue with Rodgers who is one of the best in the game at recognizing coverage and audibling to create mismatches the defensive coverage creates.

This is why I thought Jones is more valuable to Hundley -- Hundley doesn't have that same ability, nor does he have the same skills, so having a true RB that can pound inside the tackles and make outside runs by itself gives Hundley more room on PA and pass plays out of a run formation that force Ds to cheat into the box more.

I still think this is the case -- a guy like Jones may afford Hundley simply the ability to do more with handing the ball off instead of having him throw all the time. But it's also clear that TyMo has worth in game scripts to give Hundley a very good outlet option -- haven't watched every game but it seems Hundley is just as comfortable checking down to his backs than using his TEs in short dumps.

I don't think anything conclusive can be drawn from this game other than the fact that TyMo has a little more value than we may have thought with Jones' rise to primary ball carrier. And that game situation will affect which back will get opportunity.

 

[The Kerminator]

And I still wonder about this...its not as if he whiffed on a guy...he picked up the blitz...Hundley stepped up further into the pocket after nobody was open on the first read...and started to run...guy Jones picked up made the tackle from behind then for the sack as Hundley moved up.

Hundley had to step up because Jones whiffed on his blitz pick up.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Ty sure looked like the better back out there this week. 

Move held in both my leagues...Jones pass pro issues are one thing, but he wasn’t effective & TyMont was. 

Might be taking his job back... 

 

[gradin123]

I think Dr D is patting himself on this spot-on analysis.  I was one of those guys that thought Jones was going to be a RB2 at minimum when I snagged him off the WW.  Of course, that was before Rogers was out.  After the Rogers injury, I was hoping Jones would be flex worthy.  I thought Hundley would keep the D honest due to the great receiving options at GB.  Until GB pressures the D by throwing downfield, Ty is the RB to own this season. 

To be fair that was my analysis not DR D

 

[barackdhouse]

I thought the GB offense looked promising. Their defense got worked hard by Detroit, though. That long ball by Hundley to Adams should have been caught. Might have changed the complexion of the game a smidge. 

 

[gradin123]

I think in that game Ty looked better last night  too but I am a little concerned as to why Williams played the last whole drive. There has been no mention of a Ty injury but let's see the practice report tomorrow. Also, Williams looked decent on that last drive and if all of a sudden he gets into the mix we could have a committee on our hands and this offense isn't good enough for that.

 

[gradin123]

I thought the GB offense looked promising. Their defense got worked hard by Detroit, though. That long ball by Hundley to Adams should have been caught. Might have changed the complexion of the game a smidge. 

That ball was overthrown. It would have been a circus catch. He hits him in stride though and it is a TD. 

 

[sho nuff]

Hundley had to step up because Jones whiffed on his blitz pick up.

 IMO...whiff means he missed.  He didn't miss the guy...he blocked him...kept him from getting to Hundley.  He got pushed back...but not through and when he stepped up...guy followed.

It was not a great block...but just calling that a whiff IMO is not true.

 

[The Kerminator]

 IMO...whiff means he missed.  He didn't miss the guy...he blocked him...kept him from getting to Hundley.  He got pushed back...but not through and when he stepped up...guy followed.

It was not a great block...but just calling that a whiff IMO is not true.

Ok, you win. He didn't whiff. He blocked him #### poorly. Which forced Hundley to step up and get sacked by the guy.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

I think in that game Ty looked better last night  too but I am a little concerned as to why Williams played the last whole drive. There has been no mention of a Ty injury but let's see the practice report tomorrow. Also, Williams looked decent on that last drive and if all of a sudden he gets into the mix we could have a committee on our hands and this offense isn't good enough for that.

Agree that it would be concerning if TyMo re-aggravated his ribs or got a new injury. Occam's Razor, however, makes me think that the staff were giving Williams some playing time in a game that was well over for the Pack for reps and evaluation. I'd be much more worried if Williams was getting involved earlier and more often as opposed to the last whole drive.

 

[zed2283]

Yeah, I don't understand at all why anyone is putting any weight on the last drive of an unwinnable game.

Why would they risk Montgomery or Jones at that point?  Nothing to see here.

 

[Interseptopus]

Yeah, I don't understand at all why anyone is putting any weight on the last drive of an unwinnable game.

Why would they risk Montgomery or Jones at that point?  Nothing to see here.

From what I hear from people I know closer to the situation than most, nothing to see here. It might get Football Jones all excited though... 

It was an un-winnable game at that point. If Rodgers was healthy we would have seen Hundley on that last drive. 

 

[gradin123]

Yeah, I don't understand at all why anyone is putting any weight on the last drive of an unwinnable game.

Why would they risk Montgomery or Jones at that point?  Nothing to see here.

I don't put too much weight into it but there are going to be a lot of unwinnable games late going forward and if Williams keeps coming in during those situations it does limit Ty's value a bit as he is the passing guy. 

I thought the game script for the Pack/Lions game was perfect for Ty as the Pack trailed big all of the 2nd half. Yet even in that situation he managed only 51 total yards.

Like I said earlier it looks like Ty could be comparable to Duke Johnson now. Aaron Jones is still the early down back as McCarthy stated today. But since he is not a good blocker it really limits his value. Jones could be a poor mans Crowell going forward and that isn't good.

 

[DocHolliday]

To be fair that was my analysis not DR D

Sorry about that.  Your analysis is seems to be correct then.  The GB O looks awful.  It doesn't look good for any RB.  I'm sure each of the backs will have good weeks occasionally but it is going to be tough to predict.   

 

[The Dude]

Still a lot of denial in here

 

[Interseptopus]

Still a lot of denial in here

care to elaborate?

McCarthy came out and said that Ty will be the 3rd down RB. Which bodes well for receptions/targets. 

From the horses mouth it seems... 

Ty isn't much after this season IMO, but he holds some degree of value. Not droppable as some have so confidently stated in here recently. 

 

[Interseptopus]

Sorry about that.  Your analysis is seems to be correct then.  The GB O looks awful.  It doesn't look good for any RB.  I'm sure each of the backs will have good weeks occasionally but it is going to be tough to predict.   

If Rodgers was the QB we'd be singing a different tune here... but because of that Jones is not as effective. 

Hopefully you can hold onto Jones for next year and reap the rewards. This year it'll be tough. 

There's two things I'd like to think I have a good pulse on, and it's general injuries/recoveries (been right way more often than I'm wrong) and GB's RB situation. Other than that it's very hit or miss, but for those two categories I'd like to think I've done a very good job at understanding and predicting.

 

[packersfan]

care to elaborate?

McCarthy came out and said that Ty will be the 3rd down RB. Which bodes well for receptions/targets. 

From the horses mouth it seems... 

Ty isn't much after this season IMO, but he holds some degree of value. Not droppable as some have so confidently stated in here recently. 

Remains to be seen. I think he can be, at worst, a solid pass-receiving RB. In theory, a Jones-Ty duo should be effective with Rodgers at QB. 

As far as Ty this week I think he's a solid RB3 option. I'd start him over Jones this week and possibly going forward. Defenses should continue to load up vs. the run and force Hundley to beat them. More passing should mean more work for Montgomery. 

 

[Interseptopus]

Remains to be seen. I think he can be, at worst, a solid pass-receiving RB. In theory, a Jones-Ty duo should be effective with Rodgers at QB. 

As far as Ty this week I think he's a solid RB3 option. I'd start him over Jones this week and possibly going forward. Defenses should continue to load up vs. the run and force Hundley to beat them. More passing should mean more work for Montgomery. 

I giuess I'm talking more fantasy football. I think Ty factors in next season, but Jones has a lock on the RB1 duties. Jones can catch quite well. His skill sets are similar to Ty's but he's a better RB than Ty. And faster... GB has never had someone with this much athleticism and speed at RB in the Rodgers era. I'm not exactly sure if Ty has value in FF next year aside form a handcuff. Maybe getting some passing work, but nothing that would make him a weekly starter or anyone I'd really want on my bench. Jones isn't like Cook or Hunt where you can put them in and they do it all, i think it'll take him some time to ease into a full 3 down role, but I can see him getting to that point. He has all of the tools for it. 

 

[The Dude]

care to elaborate?

McCarthy came out and said that Ty will be the 3rd down RB. Which bodes well for receptions/targets. 

From the horses mouth it seems... 

Ty isn't much after this season IMO, but he holds some degree of value. Not droppable as some have so confidently stated in here recently. 

GB has been averaging 12 3rd downs a game - probably less after the QB injury.   And what about 3rd and short - you would expect to keep your true runner in the game for play action.  How many 3rd and longs go to the RB on a short pass?

Of those plays, he is probably an option in 8 of them - and maybe thrown to half of those.

Methinks you are overly optimistic.

 

[Interseptopus]

GB has been averaging 12 3rd downs a game - probably less after the QB injury.   And what about 3rd and short - you would expect to keep your true runner in the game for play action.  How many 3rd and longs go to the RB on a short pass?

Of those plays, he is probably an option in 8 of them - and maybe thrown to half of those.

Methinks you are overly optimistic.

Possibly. 3rd down in GB seems to be 3rd and 8 these days, and that's not likely to be a dump off to the RB. I think a realistic idea on receptions is 2-3 a game unless they start getting him heavily involved like they did early in his RB career (but he broke down physically)

I think telegraphing play calling by the RB you have in there is foolish, and I'd hope someone who is paid to make those decisions knows that better than I do, so I don't think Ty is only in on passing downs. Last week he ran better than Jones. I think this is a fantasy nightmare in general and anyone's guess is as good as the next. My main points were that Ty was not droppable. That seems to be a legitimate point... he still is getting work and he didn't lose 100% of the job to Jones. He could still earn more work. My second point was that Ty is better in the passing option of the game. Again, a legitimate point verified by the coach himself. The GB backfield isn't getting me very excited these days in general. In redraft if I owned Jones or Ty I'd be bummed but I wouldn't be cutting either of them. It'd be a club I'd be unhappy to be a part of. I just know I'd be kind of ticked at myself if I just cut either one of these and then the other gets hurt in 2-3 weeks and the healthy one is suddenly startable. 

It's worth letting this play out at least. 

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

Bump for injury news/updates after the Bears game.

Rib injury after being out for a while with broken ribs is not a good thing.

Depending on prognosis, he could be that much closer to droppable, or (given that he looked solid before re-injuring himself) that much closer to being a more dependable fantasy start  -- depending on Jones' prognosis.

Whatta mess.

 

[Bojang0301]

Hard for me to blame the ribs on sickle cell but I don’t think making someone with that trait a RB is the most productive way to lose their injury prone status. He is very productive when he gets a full assortment of plays, will he ever do it? I doubt it.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

Montgomery seems droppable in redraft. Maybe he was weeks ago, but in looking at ROS, can't see how he meaningfully contributes to fantasy squads.