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RB Zach Charbonnet, SEA (1 Viewer)
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Heisenberg23
Footballguy
IF Walker is out would you start Charbonnet SEA (vs tough Browns D) or Forman CHI (vs favorable matchup Chargers - but Roschon probably back and may get game scripted out) ?
FantasyGuru24
Footballguy
I’d start Charbonnet .. Then watch him ball out while sippin on some Chardonnay
FarFromHome
Footballguy
I'm pro Walker. He's just a better back of the two when healthy The problem is he just never seems to be healthy. Charbs could become relevant quickly.
Ardbeg4ever
Footballguy
Charbs is available in one of my 10 teamers, very tough schedule though.
Weebs210
Footballguy
Titans were setting records against the run over the first part of the season and now they have been one of the worst over the past few weeks. Things can change..charb is still one of the better cuffs at the moment even with a tough schedule
Ardbeg4ever
Footballguy
Ten has had 3 bad weeks against RB, weeks 3 / 5 / 9 all the rest were stingier than average.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
Small league. I had him but reluctantly dropped him for Foreman who might actually wind up in my lineup.
dschuler
Footballguy
I feel like this happens to Buffalo with their defense every year.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Instant RB1 now with Walker hurt?
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
No, but only because of the brutal schedule next 4 weeks
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
and the possibility of Geno missing time
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
He looked better than he has all season. The problem here is the same problem Walker was facing, an absolutely nasty 2nd half schedule. As a K9 owner who was getting the bulk of the work, the 2nd half terrified me. As a Charbonnet owner, same, and I'm not sure he's startable with or without Walker being active. And when Walker gets back? He will get touches, likely the bulk. This situation went from one that was very exciting to one that's pretty much avoid at all costs. At least us Charbonnet owners will get to see what they really have, but if Geno is out it could get ugly. Tread lightly.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Charb is good in the passing game so facing a good D doesn't worry that much. Even with Geno out, Charb's should be getting a ton of looks.
I've never been that high on him, said so going back to pre-NFL draft. Nothing has changed and in fact feel like I nailed my James Conner comp. Which to be fair is not at all saying he's bad, just not a dynamic type player, not someone who I think deserved to be locked in as the RB3 in this draft.
Good news for me is the two dynasty leagues I have Walker the guy who picked Charbonnet saw what I saw and offered him to at a very reasonable price and now I own him on my Walker teams. Made me sleep better at night because Walker seems to be on the injury report a lot.
This had turned into a full blown RBBC. Carroll even said this past week he looked forward to a game where he could get Charb's more carries then Walker and he expected Walker to be unhappy about it and he said he was good with that.
Majority of places I own one I also own the other. So coming from that angle while I like Walker's talent considerably more the reality is Charbs with no Walker is probably a lot better fantasy play then Walker with Charbs lurking. Bad matchup or not this week I have a lot more confidence starting Charbs this week then I did Walker last week.
Good news for me is the two dynasty leagues I have Walker the guy who picked Charbonnet saw what I saw and offered him to at a very reasonable price and now I own him on my Walker teams. Made me sleep better at night because Walker seems to be on the injury report a lot.
This had turned into a full blown RBBC. Carroll even said this past week he looked forward to a game where he could get Charb's more carries then Walker and he expected Walker to be unhappy about it and he said he was good with that.
Majority of places I own one I also own the other. So coming from that angle while I like Walker's talent considerably more the reality is Charbs with no Walker is probably a lot better fantasy play then Walker with Charbs lurking. Bad matchup or not this week I have a lot more confidence starting Charbs this week then I did Walker last week.
Ardbeg4ever
Footballguy
RB18 going forward in games with KWIII out seems about right with schedule.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’m torn. I have Warren, Singletary, Charbonnet, & James Cook.
Might have to keep rolling with Singletary, but man - Seahawks love to run, and Charbs with ~20 touches + GL & receptions is very tempting. It’s just such a craptastic matchup. Not to mention having to root against my Niners.
Gah. I hate FF for these decisions.
Might have to keep rolling with Singletary, but man - Seahawks love to run, and Charbs with ~20 touches + GL & receptions is very tempting. It’s just such a craptastic matchup. Not to mention having to root against my Niners.
Gah. I hate FF for these decisions.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yep. Just like many of us were saying it would after the draft.
FWIW I’m inclined to agree with you about Charbonnet’s profile. Conner is a good comp.
Yup.
I'm debating Charbs vs. Mostert vs. Kyren Williams.
Just read something on FPros about SF rush D being pretty mediocre since week 6. Going to take a deeper look at this.
Also wonder if SF may be a little flat. Short week, away game, been crushing it last two weeks. Could be a game where maybe SF just tries to get out alive and maybe D more leakier than usual.
A couple notable RB performances against SF lately:
* R. White: 9-30-1, 6-28
* Joe Mixon: 16-87-1, 3-23
* CLE RBs: K. Hunt - 12-47-1, 3-24; J. Ford - 17-84, 2-7
* K. Williams: 14-52-1, 6-48-1 (early in the year)
Now I've left out duds for Etienne, Akers/Mattison, Pollard.
That said, it sure looks like SF D isn't completely dominant against the run.
Hell, if R. White can get close to 18 PPR points that leaves me optimistic.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
They went through a stretch where they were a sieve. They’ve cleaned it up a lot since Chase Young got there.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Such a ****ty matchup but the dude can legit catch 8-10 passes in any given game I think. It might not be the best but for PPR this is a pretty good start
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’m probably gonna end up starting him. It’s too good of a volume play.
Seattle always plays the Niners tough, and at home to boot.
ETA: every time I think this, Carroll likes to heavily mix in Travis Homer & 2 other scrubs I’ve never heard of.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
With Achane hurt again and a short week, I am starting Charbs at FLEX.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
I’ve gotta choose between Charbs, Pacheco, Brian Robinson and Warren. I could use one in the flex but my wrs are generally better than my RBs…the downside of a nice roster full of borderline number 2 backs…
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Starting him (w/ Breece and Mostert) over Javonte.
A lot of flex-type RB's with tough match-ups this week.
Hoping SEA can get something cooking at home in a divisional match-up. And if SF dominates them, Charbs can catch some passes and make a day of it.
A lot of flex-type RB's with tough match-ups this week.
Hoping SEA can get something cooking at home in a divisional match-up. And if SF dominates them, Charbs can catch some passes and make a day of it.
nittanylion
Footballguy
Get along, get along, Kid Charbonnet..
Get along, Kid Charbonnet...
Get along, Kid Charbonnet...
Just stop. Stop. There is no way this was a full blown RBBC. It took to Week 12 AND an injury to hear from the Charbs backers. Sheesh.
149 carries to 53.
613 yards to 261
6 TD's to zero
massraider
Footballguy
Anyone else get Matt Forte vibes?
I had Forte in dynasty his whole career, he wasn't a bruiser, but good size. Wasn't slow, but def not fast. Good in the passing game, and good with ball in his hands.
I had Forte in dynasty his whole career, he wasn't a bruiser, but good size. Wasn't slow, but def not fast. Good in the passing game, and good with ball in his hands.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I guess you could say the same thing sort of about Gibbs too. The fact is this cat Charbs is out of the bag and we don't know what the future holds. If he is performing well, he's not going away.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
That would be best case scenario for sure. Charbs is big and pretty smooth. I think Charbs is more physical actually but Forte was more expensive.
Woah.
First off please read my post again and pay attention to the part about where I said I own Walker and never thought that highly of Charbs.
Next I don't know what you constitute as a full blown RBBC but when the #2RB outsnaps the #1RB in three straight games that qualifies to me.
When a coach says this, as Carroll said before last weeks game, it qualifies as a RBBC:
“There will be times when he’ll run the ball just as many as Kenny, if not more,” Carroll said. “That’ll happen somewhere. I’m not opposed to that at all. Been doing that for a long time, and I just go with what’s hot, basically, and what feels right. Kenny will fight it, and that’s OK, that’s all right, but Zach’s doing great, and I’d love to see him get it more.”
Almost everyone here understood Charbs was a deterrent to his fantasy value. Except you. The first few weeks things went your way and then you cursed all of us Walker owners with your ill timed gloat message. I swear the ebb starting turning right after that But we've now arrived where we all thought we'd be, well again everyone but you. Charb's is an issue and makes Walker having a good fantasy day extremely dependent on busting a long play or at least finding the end zone.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Denial isn’t just a River in Egypt.
And it didn’t take injury - Charbs has been near 50-50 for weeks now.
Cmon. Just admit you were wrong.
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
This is 100% something Pete Carroll would, if not inserting Dallas in KWs spot and not changing Charb's role at all for "reasons." *obnoxiously chews gum*
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
The Finist
Footballguy
50-50? Who is in denial? Full blown rbbc?
Walker 149 carries to 53.
Walker 613 yards to 261
Walker 6 TD's to zero
Lmaoooo
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
He's going to get a ton of touches, regardless of runs or catches.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’ll go on t on a limb:
16 rushes, 68 yards, 1 RuTD
6 receptions, 46 yards
Not the most efficient day, but a productive one.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Still not nearly 50/50 though.
Week 10
Walker 19 carries, 2 targets
Charbs 6 carries, 5 targets
Week 9
Walker 9 carries, 2 targets
Charbs 4 carries, 1 target
Week 8
Walker 8 carries, 2 targets
Charbs 5 carries, 2 targets
Week 7
Walker 26 carries, 3 targets
Charbs 0 carries, 0 targets
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Who said 50-50?
Bozeman Bruiser
Footballguy
20/100/2 rushing
12/120/1 receiving
I like the Forte comp, both have French names why not.
12/120/1 receiving
I like the Forte comp, both have French names why not.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
“Denial isn’t just a River in Egypt.
And it didn’t take injury - Charbs has been near 50-50 for weeks now.
Cmon. Just admit you were wrong.”
You did.
