Restaurants have gotten so expensive……also recycling and phone apps (2 Viewers)

[Doug B]

talk about being addicted, imagine smoking a pack or 2 a day. what is a pack now, $9? more? crazy high prices and you're killing yourself.

I remember in the mid-90s when the restaurant I was working at installed a cigarette machine. The price per pack out of the machine was $2.25 (probably $1.29-$1.69 per pack at a gas station and maybe ~$0.90-$1.20/pack if you bought by the carton from a grocery store). Smoking co-workers howled about that $2.25.

Locally, most old-line cigarette brands are north of $7.00 per pack and quite a few are over $8.00 (e.g. just about Marlboro's entire line). There are "dirt-cheap" packs less than $5.00 ... I've never smoked, but I imagine they're priced that way for a reason.

 

[JohnnyU]

talk about being addicted, imagine smoking a pack or 2 a day. what is a pack now, $9? more? crazy high prices and you're killing yourself.

I remember in the mid-90s when the restaurant I was working at installed a cigarette machine. The price per pack out of the machine was $2.25 (probably $1.29-$1.69 per pack at a gas station and maybe ~$0.90-$1.20/pack if you bought by the carton from a grocery store). Smoking co-workers howled about that $2.25.

Locally, most old-line cigarette brands are north of $7.00 per pack and quite a few are over $8.00 (e.g. just about Marlboro's entire line). There are "dirt-cheap" packs less than $5.00 ... I've never smoked, but I imagine they're priced that way for a reason.

I imagine the phrase, “can I bum a cigarette“, gives a different look and / or response than it used to.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

@General Malaise we don't have bottles of water in the house either. It's dumb to have them anyway - our tap water is delicious

funny thing about bottled water..........i am a buyer. i like to add in the arnold palmer packet (also a restaurant trick for old men). they have gone away from selling only spring water to also selling "purified water" at the same price or higher. filtering your tap water and selling it to me seems like something i can do.

I bought one of these - saves a ton of money and cuts down on my plastic consumption. The water tastes perfect and the filters last a long time:

Amazon.com

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Laziness for sure but a lot of these folks are addicted to the food. It's made that way for a reason.

It's such an easy habit to break and if you do, on the rare occasions you do eat it, your body tells you why it was such a good idea to leave fast food in the first place.

 

[Major]

Laziness for sure but a lot of these folks are addicted to the food. It's made that way for a reason.

It's such an easy habit to break and if you do, on the rare occasions you do eat it, your body tells you why it was such a good idea to leave fast food in the first place.

Spoken like someone not addicted

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Seems to be a PITA on an iPhone

It couldn't be simpler.

 

[Peggy]

You'll take my bottled water, paper plates, paper towels and zip lock bags from my cold dead hands.

My wife yells at me if I don’t recycle. I smile as I heed her wishes, but when she isn’t looking……..

Not cool man. Disposal of trash is a huge concern

There was almost a revolt when they threatened to take away the plastic forks and spoons out of the break room. Luckily cooler heads prevailed and it lasted only a week.

 

[Peggy]

You'll take my bottled water, paper plates, paper towels and zip lock bags from my cold dead hands.

My wife yells at me if I don’t recycle. I smile as I heed her wishes, but when she isn’t looking……..

It's amazing the types of things you can get rid of by just throwing it into the big blue recycle can.

 

[Doug B]

Seems to be a PITA on an iPhone

It couldn't be simpler.

Sure, once you've already learned it. PITA until then

 

[the moops]

You'll take my bottled water, paper plates, paper towels and zip lock bags from my cold dead hands.

My wife yells at me if I don’t recycle. I smile as I heed her wishes, but when she isn’t looking……..

It's amazing the types of things you can get rid of by just throwing it into the big blue recycle can.

I know you are attempting to make a joke here, but wish-cycling is a thing, and it wreaks havoc on the actual recycling mechanisms. If you are questioning whether something is in fact recyclable, it is better to err on the side of throwing it in the trash

 

[Doug B]

Off topic for the thread, but what the hey:

If your area collects recycling at the street, and you regularly sort garbage and use the service ... make sure the recyclable items are actually getting recycled. It's become fairly common for municipalities to simply dispose of recyclables into the same landfills used to store other garbage. Around here, the parish's recycling contract expired and never got renewed and it was kept kind of quiet for some reason. Anyway, for maybe the last 6 -7 months, recycling bins put to the street just get dumped into the regular garbage trucks.

https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/local/jefferson-parish-recycling-trash-pick-up-hold-off-paused-residents-contract-approve/289-1d121551-7ed3-4d11-b243-6c2fd2de2076

 

[JohnnyU]

Seems to be a PITA on an iPhone

It couldn't be simpler.

Sure, once you've already learned it. PITA until then

PETA hates Kentucky Fried Chicken and they can go you know what to themselves.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Off topic for the thread, but what the hey:

If your area collects recycling at the street, and you regularly sort garbage and use the service ... make sure the recyclable items are actually getting recycled. It's become fairly common for municipalities to simply dispose of recyclables into the same landfills used to store other garbage. Around here, the parish's recycling contract expired and never got renewed and it was kept kind of quiet for some reason. Anyway, for maybe the last 6 -7 months, recycling bins put to the street just get dumped into the regular garbage trucks.

https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/local/jefferson-parish-recycling-trash-pick-up-hold-off-paused-residents-contract-approve/289-1d121551-7ed3-4d11-b243-6c2fd2de2076

That's what happened in my county. Rumors had been going around that the recyclables were just getting dumped into the landfill. They eventually just snatched everyone's recycling bins and stopped pretending.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Seems to be a PITA on an iPhone

It couldn't be simpler.

Sure, once you've already learned it. PITA until then

just move two apps toward eachother and it creates the box - then just move whatever apps you want into the box.

 

[Doug B]

... just move whatever apps you want into the box.

Across pages? I'll give it a shot

just move two apps toward each other and it creates the box

This can be unwanted, though. The real trick is getting rid of the inadvertent box so created.

...

Any thoughts on the inadvertent extra-large app icon? Way too lazy to Google it or look at a 60-second YouTube how-to.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

... just move whatever apps you want into the box.

Across pages? I'll give it a shot

yes - you can move between screens quite easily.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Any thoughts on the inadvertent extra-large app icon?

i don't know what this means

 

[Cowboysfan8]

We don't dine out very often but part of the financial calculation for me is NOT HAVING TO DO DISHES AND CLEANUP!!!!1111one So it's more this year verses five years ago, okay.....I think I'd pay a good $10 or more to get out cleaning up pots, pans, knives, loading the dishwasher, putting food away, etc.....

I'm not sure if I'm making any sort of point in here, but the cost of things is more everywhere and it can be a little silly but my god, do I enjoy the night off from cleanup.

paper plates bro...chicks dig them

My wife won't let us have them in the house.....no bottles of water either.

Oh wow. My wife and I eat off paper plates about 90% of the time. The only time we don’t is pasta …a huge salad with grilled steak or chicken etc stuff like that. We do not own a dishwaparts.

To each their own. Paper plates are just going to end up in landfills. I'd rather whine about doing dishes than litter the planet with more trash.

And no, this isn't my wife posting.

We burn paper here

Yeah, that's part of the problem.

I have lots of problems. Burning paper in a barrel once in awhile ain’t one

Not about just you burning that paper.

 

[Keerock]

You'll take my bottled water, paper plates, paper towels and zip lock bags from my cold dead hands.

My wife yells at me if I don’t recycle. I smile as I heed her wishes, but when she isn’t looking……..

Not cool man. Disposal of trash is a huge concern

Recycling is such a scam. There are estimates that as little as 10% of trash put in "recycling" bins actually get recycled and at most like 35%.

 

[Doug B]

... just move whatever apps you want into the box.

Across pages? I'll give it a shot

yes - you can move between screens quite easily.

Not so fast.

I'll try it again with my phone case removed ... but with my phone case on, I can't really scroll off to the far left or far right very well. Trying to drag an icon upwards makes the Notifications show up. I was able to get another app from two pages away into my Stuff folder ... but it truly was a PITA with the case on. Will try again later sans case.

I do almost nothing in "Home screen edit" mode (aka when icons go 'wiggly'). So I'll have to learn all that from the ground up. And perhaps that informs why I hate adding apps ... they never go away since I never go into Home Screen edit and remove anything -- everything I've ever installed (even one-use apps) clutters up my phone forever.

 

[Doug B]

Any thoughts on the inadvertent extra-large app icon?

i don't know what this means

How to Increase App Icon Size on iPhone iOS 17

Somehow, I once did this inadvertently. Like a butt dial ... but this was the result. Still flummoxed as to how that happened.

EDIT: On second thought ... that video doesn't quite show what I'm talking about. At the end of the video, he does manage to end up with extra large Weather and Calendar app icons. But he seems to do it via some kind of general Display settings. What I'm talking about ... I always assumed it was app-specific.

EDIT2: 'Widget' seems to be the word for what I created. I never wanted to remove the Widget because I thought it would delete my Notes app (which I use a lot). Will research further.

EDIT3: Here's the key information about Widgets I never knew:

SBerting - Author
If I remove my widget, will the original sized app come back?


KMB_12 - Community Specialist
Hello and welcome to Apple Support Communities SBerting,

We see that you have a question about using widgets with iOS 14. We'd be happy to help.

To answer your question, yes. If you remove the widget, the icon for the app will go back to the original size. The article below will help.

Use widgets on your iPhone and iPod touch

Let us know if you have additional questions.

Have a great day!

 

[the moops]

You'll take my bottled water, paper plates, paper towels and zip lock bags from my cold dead hands.

My wife yells at me if I don’t recycle. I smile as I heed her wishes, but when she isn’t looking……..

Not cool man. Disposal of trash is a huge concern

Recycling is such a scam. There are estimates that as little as 10% of trash put in "recycling" bins actually get recycled and at most like 35%.

This is all municipality specific, but those numbers you cite are what percent of materials that can be recycled, make its way into a recycling bin. From there, there is certainly a percentage lost due to cross contamination and other such issues.

Recycling is not a scam.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Huh. I grab fast food for lunch about once a week and I guess I've been sleeping on their apps. Need to fix that.

 

[General Malaise]

@General Malaise we don't have bottles of water in the house either. It's dumb to have them anyway - our tap water is delicious

Oh, I agree 100%. Plastic water bottles are a scourge. Tap water out here is also delicious.

 

[NutterButter]

Off topic for the thread, but what the hey:

If your area collects recycling at the street, and you regularly sort garbage and use the service ... make sure the recyclable items are actually getting recycled. It's become fairly common for municipalities to simply dispose of recyclables into the same landfills used to store other garbage. Around here, the parish's recycling contract expired and never got renewed and it was kept kind of quiet for some reason. Anyway, for maybe the last 6 -7 months, recycling bins put to the street just get dumped into the regular garbage trucks.

https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/local/jefferson-parish-recycling-trash-pick-up-hold-off-paused-residents-contract-approve/289-1d121551-7ed3-4d11-b243-6c2fd2de2076

That's what happened in my county. Rumors had been going around that the recyclables were just getting dumped into the landfill. They eventually just snatched everyone's recycling bins and stopped pretending.

I've read numerous times that almost all plastic winds up in landfills. China used to take it all but those days are gone.

 

[Keerock]

I got McDonald's last week. First time in at least a year. Bacon Egg and Cheese Biscuit. Sausage Egg and Cheese Biscuit. $9.35 no tax here.

I don't know if that's good, bad, high, low but I know this - it did precisely what I needed it to do. Filled me up and absorbed some of the bad decisions I made the night before.

 

[belljr]

Just had 2 eggs, wheat toast and potatoes for $7.....

 

[wlwiles]

Is it just me or is "Market Price" becoming more prevalent in restaurants? It used to be reserved mainly for seafood, and I'd only ever see it on various fish or lobster dishes, maybe shrimp too. Went to a birthday dinner for a cousin this past weekend and on the restaurant menu all proteins other than chicken were listed as Market Price (couple ribeyes, filets, NY strip, surf and turf, even pork chops, all the fish/lobster/shrimp). Almost half the entrees on the menu had no price - and you feel pretty sheepish asking the server what all the prices are that day, so you kind of just order and hope the bill isn't crazy high (narrator: it was).

 

[General Malaise]

@General Malaise we don't have bottles of water in the house either. It's dumb to have them anyway - our tap water is delicious

funny thing about bottled water..........i am a buyer. i like to add in the arnold palmer packet (also a restaurant trick for old men). they have gone away from selling only spring water to also selling "purified water" at the same price or higher. filtering your tap water and selling it to me seems like something i can do.

You don't need to filter your tap water. I mean, there are some places in the US where you need to on occasion, but like 99% of tap water is just fine to drink

The well water at my in-laws house in Michigan is pretty rough, so they have the giant water coolers at their house. But they also buy cases and cases of bottled water. Just seems like that plastic is going into our oceans and the tiny particles of plastic are going into their bodies. No bueno.

 

[JohnnyU]

@General Malaise we don't have bottles of water in the house either. It's dumb to have them anyway - our tap water is delicious

Oh, I agree 100%. Plastic water bottles are a scourge. Tap water out here is also delicious.

Some argue bottled water is a scam.. I can see it now, filling these bottles with the same water that you and I already get from the faucet.

 

[General Malaise]

We don't dine out very often but part of the financial calculation for me is NOT HAVING TO DO DISHES AND CLEANUP!!!!1111one So it's more this year verses five years ago, okay.....I think I'd pay a good $10 or more to get out cleaning up pots, pans, knives, loading the dishwasher, putting food away, etc.....

I'm not sure if I'm making any sort of point in here, but the cost of things is more everywhere and it can be a little silly but my god, do I enjoy the night off from cleanup.

paper plates bro...chicks dig them

My wife won't let us have them in the house.....no bottles of water either.

I'm sure she has her reasons, but if that's important to her, put her in charge of the dishes.

Can you tell her for me?

Sure, next time I'm in Oregon. Until then, maybe these would help? I don't want it to seem like I'm worried about it too much, but I would be miserable without paper plates.

Eh, we're a pretty big family, so our trash would fill up rather quickly with paper plates, even if compostable. But good discovery and maybe something to consider. I whine, but I'd rather put plates in a dishwasher than throw paper plates in a fire or a compost bin or the trash. Looking forward to you coming up to Oregon to tell my wife how to do things.

 

[the moops]

Off topic for the thread, but what the hey:

If your area collects recycling at the street, and you regularly sort garbage and use the service ... make sure the recyclable items are actually getting recycled. It's become fairly common for municipalities to simply dispose of recyclables into the same landfills used to store other garbage. Around here, the parish's recycling contract expired and never got renewed and it was kept kind of quiet for some reason. Anyway, for maybe the last 6 -7 months, recycling bins put to the street just get dumped into the regular garbage trucks.

https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/local/jefferson-parish-recycling-trash-pick-up-hold-off-paused-residents-contract-approve/289-1d121551-7ed3-4d11-b243-6c2fd2de2076

That's what happened in my county. Rumors had been going around that the recyclables were just getting dumped into the landfill. They eventually just snatched everyone's recycling bins and stopped pretending.

I've read numerous times that almost all plastic winds up in landfills. China used to take it all but those days are gone.

Incorrect. There has been a diminishing market for some recyclables, mostly because as you said China used to buy it all and that has dried up some. But in most cities, almost all plastic is not just going to landfills

 

[General Malaise]

@General Malaise we don't have bottles of water in the house either. It's dumb to have them anyway - our tap water is delicious

Oh, I agree 100%. Plastic water bottles are a scourge. Tap water out here is also delicious.

Some argue bottled water is a scam.. I can see it now, filling these bottles with the same water that you and already get from the faucet.

That's precisely what was happening. Nestle got sued for it.

 

[JohnnyU]

@General Malaise we don't have bottles of water in the house either. It's dumb to have them anyway - our tap water is delicious

Oh, I agree 100%. Plastic water bottles are a scourge. Tap water out here is also delicious.

Some argue bottled water is a scam.. I can see it now, filling these bottles with the same water that you and already get from the faucet.

That's precisely what was happening. Nestle got sued for it.

I like the convenience of bottled water on long road trips.

 

[NutterButter]

Off topic for the thread, but what the hey:

If your area collects recycling at the street, and you regularly sort garbage and use the service ... make sure the recyclable items are actually getting recycled. It's become fairly common for municipalities to simply dispose of recyclables into the same landfills used to store other garbage. Around here, the parish's recycling contract expired and never got renewed and it was kept kind of quiet for some reason. Anyway, for maybe the last 6 -7 months, recycling bins put to the street just get dumped into the regular garbage trucks.

https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/local/jefferson-parish-recycling-trash-pick-up-hold-off-paused-residents-contract-approve/289-1d121551-7ed3-4d11-b243-6c2fd2de2076

That's what happened in my county. Rumors had been going around that the recyclables were just getting dumped into the landfill. They eventually just snatched everyone's recycling bins and stopped pretending.

I've read numerous times that almost all plastic winds up in landfills. China used to take it all but those days are gone.

Incorrect. There has been a diminishing market for some recyclables, mostly because as you said China used to buy it all and that has dried up some. But in most cities, almost all plastic is not just going to landfills

Can you give me a source b/c that's not what I'm reading about plastic. Plastic is just so cheap to make that its just not cost effective to repurpose it.

 

[the moops]

@General Malaise we don't have bottles of water in the house either. It's dumb to have them anyway - our tap water is delicious

Oh, I agree 100%. Plastic water bottles are a scourge. Tap water out here is also delicious.

Some argue bottled water is a scam.. I can see it now, filling these bottles with the same water that you and already get from the faucet.

That's precisely what was happening. Nestle got sued for it.

I like the convenience of bottled water on long road trips.

Is it any more convenient than filling up a few reusable water bottles for that same trip?

 

[JohnnyU]

@General Malaise we don't have bottles of water in the house either. It's dumb to have them anyway - our tap water is delicious

Oh, I agree 100%. Plastic water bottles are a scourge. Tap water out here is also delicious.

Some argue bottled water is a scam.. I can see it now, filling these bottles with the same water that you and already get from the faucet.

That's precisely what was happening. Nestle got sued for it.

I like the convenience of bottled water on long road trips.

Is it any more convenient than filling up a few reusable water bottles for that same trip?

It is to me. Easy to just throw a case of water in the back and go. Not to mention after you get to the hotel. Add ice to your cooler and put the water from that case into the cooler.

 

[Keerock]

We don't dine out very often but part of the financial calculation for me is NOT HAVING TO DO DISHES AND CLEANUP!!!!1111one So it's more this year verses five years ago, okay.....I think I'd pay a good $10 or more to get out cleaning up pots, pans, knives, loading the dishwasher, putting food away, etc.....

I'm not sure if I'm making any sort of point in here, but the cost of things is more everywhere and it can be a little silly but my god, do I enjoy the night off from cleanup.

paper plates bro...chicks dig them

My wife won't let us have them in the house.....no bottles of water either.

I'm sure she has her reasons, but if that's important to her, put her in charge of the dishes.

Can you tell her for me?

Sure, next time I'm in Oregon. Until then, maybe these would help? I don't want it to seem like I'm worried about it too much, but I would be miserable without paper plates.

Eh, we're a pretty big family, so our trash would fill up rather quickly with paper plates, even if compostable. But good discovery and maybe something to consider. I whine, but I'd rather put plates in a dishwasher than throw paper plates in a fire or a compost bin or the trash. Looking forward to you coming up to Oregon to tell my wife how to do things.

So how did you (or your wife) determine that the water and electricity consumption washing dishes is more eco-friendly than using paper plates?

 

[the moops]

We don't dine out very often but part of the financial calculation for me is NOT HAVING TO DO DISHES AND CLEANUP!!!!1111one So it's more this year verses five years ago, okay.....I think I'd pay a good $10 or more to get out cleaning up pots, pans, knives, loading the dishwasher, putting food away, etc.....

I'm not sure if I'm making any sort of point in here, but the cost of things is more everywhere and it can be a little silly but my god, do I enjoy the night off from cleanup.

paper plates bro...chicks dig them

My wife won't let us have them in the house.....no bottles of water either.

I'm sure she has her reasons, but if that's important to her, put her in charge of the dishes.

Can you tell her for me?

Sure, next time I'm in Oregon. Until then, maybe these would help? I don't want it to seem like I'm worried about it too much, but I would be miserable without paper plates.

Eh, we're a pretty big family, so our trash would fill up rather quickly with paper plates, even if compostable. But good discovery and maybe something to consider. I whine, but I'd rather put plates in a dishwasher than throw paper plates in a fire or a compost bin or the trash. Looking forward to you coming up to Oregon to tell my wife how to do things.

So how did you (or your wife) determine that the water and electricity consumption washing dishes is more eco-friendly than using paper plates?

It takes water and electricity to make the paper plates. The numbers vary, but somewhere in the 10-30 use range is when the reusable plate/cup/bowl become more environmentally friendly.

 

[Peggy]

You'll take my bottled water, paper plates, paper towels and zip lock bags from my cold dead hands.

My wife yells at me if I don’t recycle. I smile as I heed her wishes, but when she isn’t looking……..

It's amazing the types of things you can get rid of by just throwing it into the big blue recycle can.

I know you are attempting to make a joke here, but wish-cycling is a thing, and it wreaks havoc on the actual recycling mechanisms. If you are questioning whether something is in fact recyclable, it is better to err on the side of throwing it in the trash

Joke? The recycle can is twice the size of the garbage can. Plus you have to pay more for the garbage. Shark move is to hide the big stuff in the recycle.

 

[belljr]

I'm surprised how many people eat fast food tbh.....

I consider myself an awful diet person and eat lunch out multiple times a week but outside and occasional Chick-fil-A stop I can't tell you the last time I ate at McDonald's Wendy's etc

look i have a standing 720 tee time on sundays, a number 2 meal from mcdonald’s is a must on the way up at 615. the only real decision is a powerade and coffee or just a coffee

Lol.... breakfast is more understandable to me .

But I usually hit the Wawa if I'm doing that

 

[General Malaise]

@General Malaise we don't have bottles of water in the house either. It's dumb to have them anyway - our tap water is delicious

Oh, I agree 100%. Plastic water bottles are a scourge. Tap water out here is also delicious.

Some argue bottled water is a scam.. I can see it now, filling these bottles with the same water that you and already get from the faucet.

That's precisely what was happening. Nestle got sued for it.

I like the convenience of bottled water on long road trips.

You're not alone. It just seems really silly to me to pay for something you already pay for at home - water. Or you can get for free at a water fountain or faucet somewhere. Paying for the same substance to come in a plastic bottle that's not good for a planet is another problem I have, but I realize my voice is drowned out by those who like the convenience. I can just do my small part.

 

[JohnnyU]

We don't dine out very often but part of the financial calculation for me is NOT HAVING TO DO DISHES AND CLEANUP!!!!1111one So it's more this year verses five years ago, okay.....I think I'd pay a good $10 or more to get out cleaning up pots, pans, knives, loading the dishwasher, putting food away, etc.....

I'm not sure if I'm making any sort of point in here, but the cost of things is more everywhere and it can be a little silly but my god, do I enjoy the night off from cleanup.

paper plates bro...chicks dig them

My wife won't let us have them in the house.....no bottles of water either.

I'm sure she has her reasons, but if that's important to her, put her in charge of the dishes.

Can you tell her for me?

Sure, next time I'm in Oregon. Until then, maybe these would help? I don't want it to seem like I'm worried about it too much, but I would be miserable without paper plates.

Eh, we're a pretty big family, so our trash would fill up rather quickly with paper plates, even if compostable. But good discovery and maybe something to consider. I whine, but I'd rather put plates in a dishwasher than throw paper plates in a fire or a compost bin or the trash. Looking forward to you coming up to Oregon to tell my wife how to do things.

So how did you (or your wife) determine that the water and electricity consumption washing dishes is more eco-friendly than using paper plates?

It takes water and electricity to make the paper

Is there a shortage of either?

 

[psychobillies]

We don't dine out very often but part of the financial calculation for me is NOT HAVING TO DO DISHES AND CLEANUP!!!!1111one So it's more this year verses five years ago, okay.....I think I'd pay a good $10 or more to get out cleaning up pots, pans, knives, loading the dishwasher, putting food away, etc.....

I'm not sure if I'm making any sort of point in here, but the cost of things is more everywhere and it can be a little silly but my god, do I enjoy the night off from cleanup.

paper plates bro...chicks dig them

My wife won't let us have them in the house.....no bottles of water either.

I'm sure she has her reasons, but if that's important to her, put her in charge of the dishes.

Can you tell her for me?

Sure, next time I'm in Oregon. Until then, maybe these would help? I don't want it to seem like I'm worried about it too much, but I would be miserable without paper plates.

Eh, we're a pretty big family, so our trash would fill up rather quickly with paper plates, even if compostable. But good discovery and maybe something to consider. I whine, but I'd rather put plates in a dishwasher than throw paper plates in a fire or a compost bin or the trash. Looking forward to you coming up to Oregon to tell my wife how to do things.

I would consider it for Shtick purposes. How big is her biggest rolling pin? How proficient with it is she?

 

[the moops]

Is there a shortage of either?

What do you mean?

 

[JohnnyU]

@General Malaise we don't have bottles of water in the house either. It's dumb to have them anyway - our tap water is delicious

Oh, I agree 100%. Plastic water bottles are a scourge. Tap water out here is also delicious.

Some argue bottled water is a scam.. I can see it now, filling these bottles with the same water that you and already get from the faucet.

That's precisely what was happening. Nestle got sued for it.

I like the convenience of bottled water on long road trips.

You're not alone. It just seems really silly to me to pay for something you already pay for at home - water. Or you can get for free at a water fountain or faucet somewhere. Paying for the same substance to come in a plastic bottle that's not good for a planet is another problem I have, but I realize my voice is drowned out by those who like the convenience. I can just do my small part.

Like someone else said, “from my cold dead hands”. Plastic is here forever.

 

[JohnnyU]

Is there a shortage of either?

What do you mean?

Who cares if it takes water and electricity to make paper plates as you said?

 

[General Malaise]

We don't dine out very often but part of the financial calculation for me is NOT HAVING TO DO DISHES AND CLEANUP!!!!1111one So it's more this year verses five years ago, okay.....I think I'd pay a good $10 or more to get out cleaning up pots, pans, knives, loading the dishwasher, putting food away, etc.....

I'm not sure if I'm making any sort of point in here, but the cost of things is more everywhere and it can be a little silly but my god, do I enjoy the night off from cleanup.

paper plates bro...chicks dig them

My wife won't let us have them in the house.....no bottles of water either.

I'm sure she has her reasons, but if that's important to her, put her in charge of the dishes.

Can you tell her for me?

Sure, next time I'm in Oregon. Until then, maybe these would help? I don't want it to seem like I'm worried about it too much, but I would be miserable without paper plates.

Eh, we're a pretty big family, so our trash would fill up rather quickly with paper plates, even if compostable. But good discovery and maybe something to consider. I whine, but I'd rather put plates in a dishwasher than throw paper plates in a fire or a compost bin or the trash. Looking forward to you coming up to Oregon to tell my wife how to do things.

So how did you (or your wife) determine that the water and electricity consumption washing dishes is more eco-friendly than using paper plates?

As I've already said, I don't want to jam up my garbage with a family our size using paper plates. It seems needless. But if you want me to come up with a diagram or powerpoint on how we arrived at the decision to use a dishwasher to wash our plates vs throwing paper plates in the trash, I'm not going to be able to accommodate your request.

 

[General Malaise]

We don't dine out very often but part of the financial calculation for me is NOT HAVING TO DO DISHES AND CLEANUP!!!!1111one So it's more this year verses five years ago, okay.....I think I'd pay a good $10 or more to get out cleaning up pots, pans, knives, loading the dishwasher, putting food away, etc.....

I'm not sure if I'm making any sort of point in here, but the cost of things is more everywhere and it can be a little silly but my god, do I enjoy the night off from cleanup.

paper plates bro...chicks dig them

My wife won't let us have them in the house.....no bottles of water either.

I'm sure she has her reasons, but if that's important to her, put her in charge of the dishes.

Can you tell her for me?

Sure, next time I'm in Oregon. Until then, maybe these would help? I don't want it to seem like I'm worried about it too much, but I would be miserable without paper plates.

Eh, we're a pretty big family, so our trash would fill up rather quickly with paper plates, even if compostable. But good discovery and maybe something to consider. I whine, but I'd rather put plates in a dishwasher than throw paper plates in a fire or a compost bin or the trash. Looking forward to you coming up to Oregon to tell my wife how to do things.

I would consider it for Shtick purposes. How big is her biggest rolling pin? How proficient with it is she?

She's Italian and has a menacing glare. She won't waste her good rolling pin on you.....

 

[the moops]

Is there a shortage of either?

What do you mean?

Who cares if it takes water and electricity to make paper plates as you said?

Because the question from @Keerock was which is more environmentally friendly, and he failed to touch on the fact that making the paper plates also requires using water and electricity just as washing does