RG3 ROY I don't think so (1 Viewer)

[jacobo_moses]

Before people go anointing RG3 Rookie of the Year. Lets not forget what RG3 said when asked what he thought about Alfred Morris. When RG3 was asked what he thought about Morris he said, "If I had to vote for Rookie of the Year I would vote for him."

How can you not like RG3? The Dude is pretty humble considering all the hype out there. I think he is just having fun out there. (Needs to not take so man hits though.)

 

[Zow]

I'm confused, are you saying that before I "anoint" RG3 as rookie of the year, I should consider other positive factors in support of such annointing?

 

[trader jake]

Andrew Luck ---> playoffs!

RGIII ----> playoffs?

 

[kinghill]

Andrew Luck ---> playoffs!RGIII ----> playoffs?

Russell Wilson ---> playoffs!Actually I think Seattle's got a better chance than Washington.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Andrew Luck ---> playoffs!RGIII ----> playoffs?

Russell Wilson ---> playoffs!Actually I think Seattle's got a better chance than Washington.

They need to start winning some division games if that's gonna happen.

 

[dboysrock94]

Luck will get it as much as he doesn't deserve it. I think that Morris, rg3, Wilson, Martin, Richardson. Luck has a horrible completion percentage and td to int ratio there is no easy he deserves it someone says this team was 1 and 15 last year and he turned them around. I wouldn't be so quick with that this than was 2 years removed from a superbowl but no one will mention that. There qbs last year were horrible had they had a decent backup they would had won many more than one game luck doesn't deserve roy imo

 

[MikeApf]

Andrew Luck ---> playoffs!RGIII ----> playoffs?

Who cares:Steven Ridley -----> playoffs!Adrian Petersen ----> playoffs?So Ridley is better than Petersen?I don't get these arguments where folks argue team success for individual awards???

 

[Banger]

it's a nice thought and he's being a good leader but he's wrong.

 

[Pipes]

Luck will get it as much as he doesn't deserve it. I think that Morris, rg3, Wilson, Martin, Richardson. Luck has a horrible completion percentage and td to int ratio there is no easy he deserves it someone says this team was 1 and 15 last year and he turned them around. I wouldn't be so quick with that this than was 2 years removed from a superbowl but no one will mention that. There qbs last year were horrible had they had a decent backup they would had won many more than one game luck doesn't deserve roy imo

The Colts haven't been to a Super Bowl since 2007 so I'm not sure where you're getting the 2 years from. Yes they were in the playoffs 2 years ago but this team is a shadow of the 2010 Colts. They have no running game and other than Reggie Wayne a bunch of unproven young receivers. The offensive line isn't very good either. Their defense is mediocre at best. The Colts are definitely in rebuild mode and for them to be in position to make the playoffs is amazing and Luck is the main reason for that. If the Colts make the playoffs and the Skins and Seahawks don't Luck most definitely deserves the rookie of the year.

 

[Pipes]

Andrew Luck ---> playoffs!RGIII ----> playoffs?

Who cares:Steven Ridley -----> playoffs!Adrian Petersen ----> playoffs?So Ridley is better than Petersen?I don't get these arguments where folks argue team success for individual awards???

Are you new to the NFL? QB's are judged on wins and losses as much if not more than personal stats. This has been happening for years. That's why lists of the best QB's of all time have guys like Montana ahead of Marino and that Peyton needed to win a Superbowl to validate his career. Not saying it's fair but that's how it is with QBs.

 

[matttyl]

Andrew Luck ---> playoffs!RGIII ----> playoffs?

Who cares:Steven Ridley -----> playoffs!Adrian Petersen ----> playoffs?So Ridley is better than Petersen?I don't get these arguments where folks argue team success for individual awards???

Are you new to the NFL? QB's are judged on wins and losses as much if not more than personal stats. This has been happening for years. That's why lists of the best QB's of all time have guys like Montana ahead of Marino and that Peyton needed to win a Superbowl to validate his career. Not saying it's fair but that's how it is with QBs.

So by this argument Schaub and Cutler are better than Brees and RG3?

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Andrew Luck ---> playoffs!RGIII ----> playoffs?

Who cares:Steven Ridley -----> playoffs!Adrian Petersen ----> playoffs?So Ridley is better than Petersen?I don't get these arguments where folks argue team success for individual awards???

Are you new to the NFL? QB's are judged on wins and losses as much if not more than personal stats. This has been happening for years. That's why lists of the best QB's of all time have guys like Montana ahead of Marino and that Peyton needed to win a Superbowl to validate his career. Not saying it's fair but that's how it is with QBs.

Lol. "Guys like Montana" are ranked ahead of guys like Marino because Montana was better then Marino.

 

[Pipes]

Andrew Luck ---> playoffs!RGIII ----> playoffs?

Who cares:Steven Ridley -----> playoffs!Adrian Petersen ----> playoffs?So Ridley is better than Petersen?I don't get these arguments where folks argue team success for individual awards???

Are you new to the NFL? QB's are judged on wins and losses as much if not more than personal stats. This has been happening for years. That's why lists of the best QB's of all time have guys like Montana ahead of Marino and that Peyton needed to win a Superbowl to validate his career. Not saying it's fair but that's how it is with QBs.

So by this argument Schaub and Cutler are better than Brees and RG3?

Wins aren't the only factor but they are a factor. And Brees is a poor example to bring up since he has a ring and the others on this list don't.

 

[Pipes]

Andrew Luck ---> playoffs!RGIII ----> playoffs?

Who cares:Steven Ridley -----> playoffs!Adrian Petersen ----> playoffs?So Ridley is better than Petersen?I don't get these arguments where folks argue team success for individual awards???

Are you new to the NFL? QB's are judged on wins and losses as much if not more than personal stats. This has been happening for years. That's why lists of the best QB's of all time have guys like Montana ahead of Marino and that Peyton needed to win a Superbowl to validate his career. Not saying it's fair but that's how it is with QBs.

Lol. "Guys like Montana" are ranked ahead of guys like Marino because Montana was better then Marino.

I agree and it because of the wins and other intangibles such as leadership that Montana possessed. Marino has better stats pretty much across the board than Montana but that doesn't make him the better QB.

 

[MikeApf]

Andrew Luck ---> playoffs!RGIII ----> playoffs?

Who cares:Steven Ridley -----> playoffs!Adrian Petersen ----> playoffs?So Ridley is better than Petersen?I don't get these arguments where folks argue team success for individual awards???

Are you new to the NFL? QB's are judged on wins and losses as much if not more than personal stats. This has been happening for years. That's why lists of the best QB's of all time have guys like Montana ahead of Marino and that Peyton needed to win a Superbowl to validate his career. Not saying it's fair but that's how it is with QBs.

No, I am not new to the NFL but I suspect from your response that you may be. I totally understand that argument that QBs are partially judged by wins and losses. But to automatically say one QB is better than another based upon wins is foolish.By your argument Trent Dilfer all time is better than Dan Marino alltime.Of course, guys like Peyton Manning or Dan Elway were validated later in their careers by winning a Super Bowl. However, we are not in this situation here. Both QBs have played a relatively small sample size = 12 games to be exact. One QB is 6-6, the other is 8-4, and they have the rest of the season to go. Now based on those 2 games -- in a team sport -- where they are playing completely different schedules -- you are saying Luck should be given the nod over Griffin. Breaking down your argument to the specifics of THIS situation, it is not a strong argument.You should reason through your facts a bit closer before throwing out insults. Your argument is extremely weak in my opinion, elevating one man over the other based on 2 games with different schedules and teams around them. The point is, both men have drastically elevated the caliber of their teams over last year -- not just Luck.

 

[Assani Fisher]

Andrew Luck ---> playoffs!RGIII ----> playoffs?

Who cares:Steven Ridley -----> playoffs!Adrian Petersen ----> playoffs?So Ridley is better than Petersen?I don't get these arguments where folks argue team success for individual awards???

Are you new to the NFL? QB's are judged on wins and losses as much if not more than personal stats. This has been happening for years. That's why lists of the best QB's of all time have guys like Montana ahead of Marino and that Peyton needed to win a Superbowl to validate his career. Not saying it's fair but that's how it is with QBs.

And before Bill James came along people used to think that batting average, RBIs, and W/L record(for a pitcher) were the best baseball stats to use to evaluate players. As time goes by, we better understand how to analyze sports. That we have previously overrated Super Bowl wins when evaluating QBs is not good reason for us to continue to do so.