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Rod Woodson clocked at 4.29 back in 1987 (1 Viewer)

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WOW ,i knew he ran track ,but i didnt know he was clocking 4.29 in the 40. I found this article in a Google search. I was having a debate with some friends of mine about Woodson vs Sanders ,and they were saying Rod was not that fast,but he was a very intelligent player. I told them Rod was fast before the knee injury,but i was not exactly sure about his 40 yard time coming out of Purdue University.

http://cincypost.com/sports/1997/wood060397.html

The article is from 1997 when Rod had a workout for several teams in which he ran a 4.53 40. The ACL injury he suffered the year before slowed him down a lot.

 
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It was a credit to Woodson that he was able to maintain a high level of play after that knee injury.

Supposedly the fastest ever recorded 40-yard dash was by Darrell Green at either 4.15 or 4.19, depending upon who you believe. He also had the then-fastest time in the world in the 100-meter when he was in college in 1982.

True story: before one of his final seasons in the NFL (2000-2002, I can't remember which), the Redskins were running timed 40-yard dashes for the entire roster during training camp. Green showed up, borrowed a teammate's track shoes, and ran the fastest time on the team at 4.2. It was hand-timed, but I remember his teammates at the time being quoted in the Washington Post as having watched in total disbelief.

 
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It was a credit to Woodson that he was able to maintain a high level of play after that knee injury.

Supposedly the fastest ever recorded 40-yard dash was by Darrell Green at either 4.15 or 4.19, depending upon who you believe. He also had the then-fastest time in the world in the 100-meter when he was in college in 1982.

True story: before one of his final seasons in the NFL (2000-2002, I can't remember which), the Redskins were running timed 40-yard dashes for the entire roster during training camp. Green showed up, borrowed a teammate's track shoes, and ran the fastest time on the team at 4.2. It was hand-timed, but I remember his teammates at the time being quoted in the Washington Post as having watched in total disbelief.
This is complete :popcorn: Darrell Green NEVER ran a sub 4.2 40-yard dash. No one in history has ever done so. Oh, and Green NEVER held the world record in the 100 nor did he ever have the fastest time in the world. Heck, he didn't even win a collegiate title that I could find.Coles never ran a 4.16 nor a 4.29, yet another myth.

First we have to take into account the errors of hand-timing, both at the beginning and the end of a race. Second, when the time actually starts, with the players motion or with a gun/light. The times you are people are talking about are absurd. I would be happy to go over the normal conversion rate used when hand-timing is involved with anyone interested. Back to the matter at hand:

Ben Johnson, a one-time 60-meter world record holder and one of the greatest starters in history, is believed to have run 40 yards faster than any human in history. Johnson, completely filled with copious amounts of steroids, won the 100 meters at the 1988 Olympics in Seoul in 9.79 seconds, only to have his gold medal and world record stripped after failing a post-race drug test.

Timing officials have since broken down that famed race into 10-meter increments, and Johnson was so preposterously fast that he went through 50 meters in 5.52 seconds and 60 meters in 6.37 – both under the current world records at those distances. He went through 40 yards that day in 4.38 seconds.

He was running in spikes . . . on a warm afternoon perfectly suited for sprinting . . . with a slight tailwind . . . with years of training from arguably track's top coach, Charlie Francis . . . with Carl Lewis and six others of the fastest men on the planet chasing him . . . with 69,000 people roaring at Seoul's Olympic Stadium . . . with the ultimate prize in sports, an Olympic gold medal, at stake.

And, as we learned later, with muscles built with the assistance of the anabolic steroid stanazolol.

Four-point-three-eight seconds.

Even taken from the moment he moved instead of the gun, Johnson covered the 40 in 4.26 seconds. (A time equaled by Maurice Green in his then record run). I'm sorry, but neither Green nor Coles is a full stride faster than Johnson was.

As for actual NFL times, Sanders was timed at 4.29 in high tops at the combine, but it was hand-timed. It should be noted that all there admit he pulled up at the end, which means he was flat out flying!

OJ SImpson was a member of a WORLD reocrd 4x100 meter realy team and thought to be the fastest on that team. His best electronic, non-flying start 40? A 4.5.

Renaldo Nehemiah to this day, almost 30-years later, holds high school and collegiate records in the hurdles so there is no doubt that he was blazing fast. (Just in case the Olympics and world records weren't enough to convince you :popcorn: )

Those three, Willie Gault, Bob Hayes, and Green were all amazingly fast. None was under a 4.2 though.

 
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It was a credit to Woodson that he was able to maintain a high level of play after that knee injury.

Supposedly the fastest ever recorded 40-yard dash was by Darrell Green at either 4.15 or 4.19, depending upon who you believe. He also had the then-fastest time in the world in the 100-meter when he was in college in 1982.

True story: before one of his final seasons in the NFL (2000-2002, I can't remember which), the Redskins were running timed 40-yard dashes for the entire roster during training camp. Green showed up, borrowed a teammate's track shoes, and ran the fastest time on the team at 4.2. It was hand-timed, but I remember his teammates at the time being quoted in the Washington Post as having watched in total disbelief.
This is complete :wall: Darrell Green NEVER ran a sub 4.2 40-yard dash. No one in history has ever done so. Oh, and Green NEVER held the world record in the 100 nor did he ever have the fastest time in the world. Heck, he didn't even win a collegiate title that I could find.Coles never ran a 4.16 nor a 4.29, yet another myth.

First we have to take into account the errors of hand-timing, both at the beginning and the end of a race. Second, when the time actually starts, with the players motion or with a gun/light. The times you are people are talking about are absurd. I would be happy to go over the normal conversion rate used when hand-timing is involved with anyone interested. Back to the matter at hand:

Ben Johnson, a one-time 60-meter world record holder and one of the greatest starters in history, is believed to have run 40 yards faster than any human in history. Johnson, completely filled with copious amounts of steroids, won the 100 meters at the 1988 Olympics in Seoul in 9.79 seconds, only to have his gold medal and world record stripped after failing a post-race drug test.

Timing officials have since broken down that famed race into 10-meter increments, and Johnson was so preposterously fast that he went through 50 meters in 5.52 seconds and 60 meters in 6.37 – both under the current world records at those distances. He went through 40 yards that day in 4.38 seconds.

He was running in spikes . . . on a warm afternoon perfectly suited for sprinting . . . with a slight tailwind . . . with years of training from arguably track's top coach, Charlie Francis . . . with Carl Lewis and six others of the fastest men on the planet chasing him . . . with 69,000 people roaring at Seoul's Olympic Stadium . . . with the ultimate prize in sports, an Olympic gold medal, at stake.

And, as we learned later, with muscles built with the assistance of the anabolic steroid stanazolol.

Four-point-three-eight seconds.

Even taken from the moment he moved instead of the gun, Johnson covered the 40 in 4.26 seconds. (A time equaled by Maurice Green in his then record run). I'm sorry, but neither Green nor Coles is a full stride faster than Johnson was.

As for actual NFL times, Sanders was timed at 4.29 in high tops at the combine, but it was hand-timed. It should be noted that all there admit he pulled up at the end, which means he was flat out flying!

OJ SImpson was a member of a WORLD reocrd 4x100 meter realy team and thought to be the fastest on that team. His best electronic, non-flying start 40? A 4.5.

Renaldo Nehemiah to this day, almost 30-years later, holds high school and collegiate records in the hurdles so there is no doubt that he was blazing fast. (Just in case the Olympics and world records weren't enough to convince you :wall: )

Those three, Willie Gault, Bob Hayes, and Green were all amazingly fast. None was under a 4.2 though.
:popcorn:
 
Hunterbeer said:
redman said:
It was a credit to Woodson that he was able to maintain a high level of play after that knee injury.

Supposedly the fastest ever recorded 40-yard dash was by Darrell Green at either 4.15 or 4.19, depending upon who you believe. He also had the then-fastest time in the world in the 100-meter when he was in college in 1982.

True story: before one of his final seasons in the NFL (2000-2002, I can't remember which), the Redskins were running timed 40-yard dashes for the entire roster during training camp. Green showed up, borrowed a teammate's track shoes, and ran the fastest time on the team at 4.2. It was hand-timed, but I remember his teammates at the time being quoted in the Washington Post as having watched in total disbelief.
This is complete :bs: Darrell Green NEVER ran a sub 4.2 40-yard dash. No one in history has ever done so. Oh, and Green NEVER held the world record in the 100 nor did he ever have the fastest time in the world. Heck, he didn't even win a collegiate title that I could find.Coles never ran a 4.16 nor a 4.29, yet another myth.

First we have to take into account the errors of hand-timing, both at the beginning and the end of a race. Second, when the time actually starts, with the players motion or with a gun/light. The times you are people are talking about are absurd. I would be happy to go over the normal conversion rate used when hand-timing is involved with anyone interested. Back to the matter at hand:

Ben Johnson, a one-time 60-meter world record holder and one of the greatest starters in history, is believed to have run 40 yards faster than any human in history. Johnson, completely filled with copious amounts of steroids, won the 100 meters at the 1988 Olympics in Seoul in 9.79 seconds, only to have his gold medal and world record stripped after failing a post-race drug test.

Timing officials have since broken down that famed race into 10-meter increments, and Johnson was so preposterously fast that he went through 50 meters in 5.52 seconds and 60 meters in 6.37 – both under the current world records at those distances. He went through 40 yards that day in 4.38 seconds.

He was running in spikes . . . on a warm afternoon perfectly suited for sprinting . . . with a slight tailwind . . . with years of training from arguably track's top coach, Charlie Francis . . . with Carl Lewis and six others of the fastest men on the planet chasing him . . . with 69,000 people roaring at Seoul's Olympic Stadium . . . with the ultimate prize in sports, an Olympic gold medal, at stake.

And, as we learned later, with muscles built with the assistance of the anabolic steroid stanazolol.

Four-point-three-eight seconds.

Even taken from the moment he moved instead of the gun, Johnson covered the 40 in 4.26 seconds. (A time equaled by Maurice Green in his then record run). I'm sorry, but neither Green nor Coles is a full stride faster than Johnson was.

As for actual NFL times, Sanders was timed at 4.29 in high tops at the combine, but it was hand-timed. It should be noted that all there admit he pulled up at the end, which means he was flat out flying!

OJ SImpson was a member of a WORLD reocrd 4x100 meter realy team and thought to be the fastest on that team. His best electronic, non-flying start 40? A 4.5.

Renaldo Nehemiah to this day, almost 30-years later, holds high school and collegiate records in the hurdles so there is no doubt that he was blazing fast. (Just in case the Olympics and world records weren't enough to convince you ;) )

Those three, Willie Gault, Bob Hayes, and Green were all amazingly fast. None was under a 4.2 though.
This is not completely true either during a recruiting combine for high school player(on NCAA FOOTBALL) I recruited a CB who had a 4.19 40 time. Hand Timed. :banned:
 
Hunterbeer said:
redman said:
It was a credit to Woodson that he was able to maintain a high level of play after that knee injury.

Supposedly the fastest ever recorded 40-yard dash was by Darrell Green at either 4.15 or 4.19, depending upon who you believe. He also had the then-fastest time in the world in the 100-meter when he was in college in 1982.

True story: before one of his final seasons in the NFL (2000-2002, I can't remember which), the Redskins were running timed 40-yard dashes for the entire roster during training camp. Green showed up, borrowed a teammate's track shoes, and ran the fastest time on the team at 4.2. It was hand-timed, but I remember his teammates at the time being quoted in the Washington Post as having watched in total disbelief.
This is complete :wall: Darrell Green NEVER ran a sub 4.2 40-yard dash. No one in history has ever done so. Oh, and Green NEVER held the world record in the 100 nor did he ever have the fastest time in the world. Heck, he didn't even win a collegiate title that I could find.Coles never ran a 4.16 nor a 4.29, yet another myth.

First we have to take into account the errors of hand-timing, both at the beginning and the end of a race. Second, when the time actually starts, with the players motion or with a gun/light. The times you are people are talking about are absurd. I would be happy to go over the normal conversion rate used when hand-timing is involved with anyone interested. Back to the matter at hand:

Ben Johnson, a one-time 60-meter world record holder and one of the greatest starters in history, is believed to have run 40 yards faster than any human in history. Johnson, completely filled with copious amounts of steroids, won the 100 meters at the 1988 Olympics in Seoul in 9.79 seconds, only to have his gold medal and world record stripped after failing a post-race drug test.

Timing officials have since broken down that famed race into 10-meter increments, and Johnson was so preposterously fast that he went through 50 meters in 5.52 seconds and 60 meters in 6.37 – both under the current world records at those distances. He went through 40 yards that day in 4.38 seconds.

He was running in spikes . . . on a warm afternoon perfectly suited for sprinting . . . with a slight tailwind . . . with years of training from arguably track's top coach, Charlie Francis . . . with Carl Lewis and six others of the fastest men on the planet chasing him . . . with 69,000 people roaring at Seoul's Olympic Stadium . . . with the ultimate prize in sports, an Olympic gold medal, at stake.

And, as we learned later, with muscles built with the assistance of the anabolic steroid stanazolol.

Four-point-three-eight seconds.

Even taken from the moment he moved instead of the gun, Johnson covered the 40 in 4.26 seconds. (A time equaled by Maurice Green in his then record run). I'm sorry, but neither Green nor Coles is a full stride faster than Johnson was.

As for actual NFL times, Sanders was timed at 4.29 in high tops at the combine, but it was hand-timed. It should be noted that all there admit he pulled up at the end, which means he was flat out flying!

OJ SImpson was a member of a WORLD reocrd 4x100 meter realy team and thought to be the fastest on that team. His best electronic, non-flying start 40? A 4.5.

Renaldo Nehemiah to this day, almost 30-years later, holds high school and collegiate records in the hurdles so there is no doubt that he was blazing fast. (Just in case the Olympics and world records weren't enough to convince you :loco: )

Those three, Willie Gault, Bob Hayes, and Green were all amazingly fast. None was under a 4.2 though.
This is not completely true either during a recruiting combine for high school player(on NCAA FOOTBALL) I recruited a CB who had a 4.19 40 time. Hand Timed. :wall:
I'd be willing to wager the hand timer just stopped the clock too fast. :shock:
 
Hunterbeer said:
redman said:
It was a credit to Woodson that he was able to maintain a high level of play after that knee injury.

Supposedly the fastest ever recorded 40-yard dash was by Darrell Green at either 4.15 or 4.19, depending upon who you believe. He also had the then-fastest time in the world in the 100-meter when he was in college in 1982.

True story: before one of his final seasons in the NFL (2000-2002, I can't remember which), the Redskins were running timed 40-yard dashes for the entire roster during training camp. Green showed up, borrowed a teammate's track shoes, and ran the fastest time on the team at 4.2. It was hand-timed, but I remember his teammates at the time being quoted in the Washington Post as having watched in total disbelief.
This is complete :wall: Darrell Green NEVER ran a sub 4.2 40-yard dash. No one in history has ever done so. Oh, and Green NEVER held the world record in the 100 nor did he ever have the fastest time in the world. Heck, he didn't even win a collegiate title that I could find.Coles never ran a 4.16 nor a 4.29, yet another myth.

First we have to take into account the errors of hand-timing, both at the beginning and the end of a race. Second, when the time actually starts, with the players motion or with a gun/light. The times you are people are talking about are absurd. I would be happy to go over the normal conversion rate used when hand-timing is involved with anyone interested. Back to the matter at hand:

Ben Johnson, a one-time 60-meter world record holder and one of the greatest starters in history, is believed to have run 40 yards faster than any human in history. Johnson, completely filled with copious amounts of steroids, won the 100 meters at the 1988 Olympics in Seoul in 9.79 seconds, only to have his gold medal and world record stripped after failing a post-race drug test.

Timing officials have since broken down that famed race into 10-meter increments, and Johnson was so preposterously fast that he went through 50 meters in 5.52 seconds and 60 meters in 6.37 – both under the current world records at those distances. He went through 40 yards that day in 4.38 seconds.

He was running in spikes . . . on a warm afternoon perfectly suited for sprinting . . . with a slight tailwind . . . with years of training from arguably track's top coach, Charlie Francis . . . with Carl Lewis and six others of the fastest men on the planet chasing him . . . with 69,000 people roaring at Seoul's Olympic Stadium . . . with the ultimate prize in sports, an Olympic gold medal, at stake.

And, as we learned later, with muscles built with the assistance of the anabolic steroid stanazolol.

Four-point-three-eight seconds.

Even taken from the moment he moved instead of the gun, Johnson covered the 40 in 4.26 seconds. (A time equaled by Maurice Green in his then record run). I'm sorry, but neither Green nor Coles is a full stride faster than Johnson was.

As for actual NFL times, Sanders was timed at 4.29 in high tops at the combine, but it was hand-timed. It should be noted that all there admit he pulled up at the end, which means he was flat out flying!

OJ SImpson was a member of a WORLD reocrd 4x100 meter realy team and thought to be the fastest on that team. His best electronic, non-flying start 40? A 4.5.

Renaldo Nehemiah to this day, almost 30-years later, holds high school and collegiate records in the hurdles so there is no doubt that he was blazing fast. (Just in case the Olympics and world records weren't enough to convince you :wall: )

Those three, Willie Gault, Bob Hayes, and Green were all amazingly fast. None was under a 4.2 though.
This is not completely true either during a recruiting combine for high school player(on NCAA FOOTBALL) I recruited a CB who had a 4.19 40 time. Hand Timed. :shock:
If I hand time a tortoise at 4.09 in the 40 it doesn't mean the tortoise is that fast, it means I'm incompetent with a watch. These incredibly stupid myths about the speed of some come up several times a year. They are always shot down with the truth, and yet they persist. If you want to know about speed watch these world class athletes run next to each other, the guys pulling away or closing gaps are super fast, the other guys are just fast. The best football speed I've seen was from Bob Hayes, Travis Williams, Willie Gault, Lem Barney, Herb Adderly, Rod Woodson, Bo Jackson, Darrell Green, Maybe The most over hyped player of all time Deion Sanders, and Ben Watson. Last year Watson ran down a play from behind and having to cross the entire field. I swore he had a rocket up his ### that day.
 
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Hunterbeer said:
redman said:
It was a credit to Woodson that he was able to maintain a high level of play after that knee injury.

Supposedly the fastest ever recorded 40-yard dash was by Darrell Green at either 4.15 or 4.19, depending upon who you believe. He also had the then-fastest time in the world in the 100-meter when he was in college in 1982.

True story: before one of his final seasons in the NFL (2000-2002, I can't remember which), the Redskins were running timed 40-yard dashes for the entire roster during training camp. Green showed up, borrowed a teammate's track shoes, and ran the fastest time on the team at 4.2. It was hand-timed, but I remember his teammates at the time being quoted in the Washington Post as having watched in total disbelief.
This is complete :bs: Darrell Green NEVER ran a sub 4.2 40-yard dash. No one in history has ever done so. Oh, and Green NEVER held the world record in the 100 nor did he ever have the fastest time in the world. Heck, he didn't even win a collegiate title that I could find.Coles never ran a 4.16 nor a 4.29, yet another myth.

First we have to take into account the errors of hand-timing, both at the beginning and the end of a race. Second, when the time actually starts, with the players motion or with a gun/light. The times you are people are talking about are absurd. I would be happy to go over the normal conversion rate used when hand-timing is involved with anyone interested. Back to the matter at hand:

Ben Johnson, a one-time 60-meter world record holder and one of the greatest starters in history, is believed to have run 40 yards faster than any human in history. Johnson, completely filled with copious amounts of steroids, won the 100 meters at the 1988 Olympics in Seoul in 9.79 seconds, only to have his gold medal and world record stripped after failing a post-race drug test.

Timing officials have since broken down that famed race into 10-meter increments, and Johnson was so preposterously fast that he went through 50 meters in 5.52 seconds and 60 meters in 6.37 – both under the current world records at those distances. He went through 40 yards that day in 4.38 seconds.

He was running in spikes . . . on a warm afternoon perfectly suited for sprinting . . . with a slight tailwind . . . with years of training from arguably track's top coach, Charlie Francis . . . with Carl Lewis and six others of the fastest men on the planet chasing him . . . with 69,000 people roaring at Seoul's Olympic Stadium . . . with the ultimate prize in sports, an Olympic gold medal, at stake.

And, as we learned later, with muscles built with the assistance of the anabolic steroid stanazolol.

Four-point-three-eight seconds.

Even taken from the moment he moved instead of the gun, Johnson covered the 40 in 4.26 seconds. (A time equaled by Maurice Green in his then record run). I'm sorry, but neither Green nor Coles is a full stride faster than Johnson was.

As for actual NFL times, Sanders was timed at 4.29 in high tops at the combine, but it was hand-timed. It should be noted that all there admit he pulled up at the end, which means he was flat out flying!

OJ SImpson was a member of a WORLD reocrd 4x100 meter realy team and thought to be the fastest on that team. His best electronic, non-flying start 40? A 4.5.

Renaldo Nehemiah to this day, almost 30-years later, holds high school and collegiate records in the hurdles so there is no doubt that he was blazing fast. (Just in case the Olympics and world records weren't enough to convince you ;) )

Those three, Willie Gault, Bob Hayes, and Green were all amazingly fast. None was under a 4.2 though.
This is not completely true either during a recruiting combine for high school player(on NCAA FOOTBALL) I recruited a CB who had a 4.19 40 time. Hand Timed. :lmao:
I'd be willing to wager the hand timer just stopped the clock too fast. :yes:
Maybe I should note that is was on NCAA FOOTBALL for PS2. :lmao:
 
Hunterbeer said:
This is complete :goodposting: Darrell Green NEVER ran a sub 4.2 40-yard dash. No one in history has ever done so. Oh, and Green NEVER held the world record in the 100 nor did he ever have the fastest time in the world. Heck, he didn't even win a collegiate title that I could find.

Coles never ran a 4.16 nor a 4.29, yet another myth.

First we have to take into account the errors of hand-timing, both at the beginning and the end of a race. Second, when the time actually starts, with the players motion or with a gun/light. The times you are people are talking about are absurd. I would be happy to go over the normal conversion rate used when hand-timing is involved with anyone interested. Back to the matter at hand:

Ben Johnson, a one-time 60-meter world record holder and one of the greatest starters in history, is believed to have run 40 yards faster than any human in history. Johnson, completely filled with copious amounts of steroids, won the 100 meters at the 1988 Olympics in Seoul in 9.79 seconds, only to have his gold medal and world record stripped after failing a post-race drug test.

Timing officials have since broken down that famed race into 10-meter increments, and Johnson was so preposterously fast that he went through 50 meters in 5.52 seconds and 60 meters in 6.37 – both under the current world records at those distances. He went through 40 yards that day in 4.38 seconds.

He was running in spikes . . . on a warm afternoon perfectly suited for sprinting . . . with a slight tailwind . . . with years of training from arguably track's top coach, Charlie Francis . . . with Carl Lewis and six others of the fastest men on the planet chasing him . . . with 69,000 people roaring at Seoul's Olympic Stadium . . . with the ultimate prize in sports, an Olympic gold medal, at stake.

And, as we learned later, with muscles built with the assistance of the anabolic steroid stanazolol.

Four-point-three-eight seconds.

Even taken from the moment he moved instead of the gun, Johnson covered the 40 in 4.26 seconds. (A time equaled by Maurice Green in his then record run). I'm sorry, but neither Green nor Coles is a full stride faster than Johnson was.

As for actual NFL times, Sanders was timed at 4.29 in high tops at the combine, but it was hand-timed. It should be noted that all there admit he pulled up at the end, which means he was flat out flying!

OJ SImpson was a member of a WORLD reocrd 4x100 meter realy team and thought to be the fastest on that team. His best electronic, non-flying start 40? A 4.5.

Renaldo Nehemiah to this day, almost 30-years later, holds high school and collegiate records in the hurdles so there is no doubt that he was blazing fast. (Just in case the Olympics and world records weren't enough to convince you :shrug: )

Those three, Willie Gault, Bob Hayes, and Green were all amazingly fast. None was under a 4.2 though.
This is a good post. Can you tell me the source of your facts?
 
Alexander Wright ran a 4.09 twice during one of the NFL Fatsest Man competitons.

What was it that Napoloen Kaufman supposedly ran while in college? 3.8-3.9 something? :popcorn: :tumbleweed:

 
Yeah hand times are delayed but Im sure the officials at the combine are fairly consistant and I think the comparison to the other athletes getting timmed is what is important to gauge thier speed. And breaking down that guys 100M and getting his 40 is irrelevent. Unless he ran the 40M then you cant really give him an accurate time.

 
Timing officials have since broken down that famed race into 10-meter increments, and Johnson was so preposterously fast that he went through 50 meters in 5.52 seconds and 60 meters in 6.37 – both under the current world records at those distances. He went through 40 yards that day in 4.38 seconds.

- So they broke down his time and took his split from the 60M, the 50M, and the 40yrd??? You ever think they took his 40M split lol???? which im pretty sure is longer than the 40 yard dash. Not by that much but enough to say that the two are not comparable.

 
This is a good article.

http://www.usoc.org/11611_32384.htm

Says that the juiced-up Ben Johnson ran 40 yards in 4.38 on the day he set his tainted world record.
I'm always suspicous about using interim times in longer races to compare them to people running shorter distances. I'm no authority on sprinting, but I would think that you'd have more time to get up to top speed in a 100m sprint and so your accelleration might not quite be as fast through the first 40 yards. I do know that 200m sprinters' times through the first 100m are significantly slower than 100m sprinters even though you wouldn't necessarily think so given their finishing times.
 
Hunterbeer said:
redman said:
It was a credit to Woodson that he was able to maintain a high level of play after that knee injury.

Supposedly the fastest ever recorded 40-yard dash was by Darrell Green at either 4.15 or 4.19, depending upon who you believe. He also had the then-fastest time in the world in the 100-meter when he was in college in 1982.

True story: before one of his final seasons in the NFL (2000-2002, I can't remember which), the Redskins were running timed 40-yard dashes for the entire roster during training camp. Green showed up, borrowed a teammate's track shoes, and ran the fastest time on the team at 4.2. It was hand-timed, but I remember his teammates at the time being quoted in the Washington Post as having watched in total disbelief.
This is complete :thumbup: Darrell Green NEVER ran a sub 4.2 40-yard dash. No one in history has ever done so. Oh, and Green NEVER held the world record in the 100 nor did he ever have the fastest time in the world. Heck, he didn't even win a collegiate title that I could find.Coles never ran a 4.16 nor a 4.29, yet another myth.

First we have to take into account the errors of hand-timing, both at the beginning and the end of a race. Second, when the time actually starts, with the players motion or with a gun/light. The times you are people are talking about are absurd. I would be happy to go over the normal conversion rate used when hand-timing is involved with anyone interested. Back to the matter at hand:

Ben Johnson, a one-time 60-meter world record holder and one of the greatest starters in history, is believed to have run 40 yards faster than any human in history. Johnson, completely filled with copious amounts of steroids, won the 100 meters at the 1988 Olympics in Seoul in 9.79 seconds, only to have his gold medal and world record stripped after failing a post-race drug test.

Timing officials have since broken down that famed race into 10-meter increments, and Johnson was so preposterously fast that he went through 50 meters in 5.52 seconds and 60 meters in 6.37 – both under the current world records at those distances. He went through 40 yards that day in 4.38 seconds.

He was running in spikes . . . on a warm afternoon perfectly suited for sprinting . . . with a slight tailwind . . . with years of training from arguably track's top coach, Charlie Francis . . . with Carl Lewis and six others of the fastest men on the planet chasing him . . . with 69,000 people roaring at Seoul's Olympic Stadium . . . with the ultimate prize in sports, an Olympic gold medal, at stake.

And, as we learned later, with muscles built with the assistance of the anabolic steroid stanazolol.

Four-point-three-eight seconds.

Even taken from the moment he moved instead of the gun, Johnson covered the 40 in 4.26 seconds. (A time equaled by Maurice Green in his then record run). I'm sorry, but neither Green nor Coles is a full stride faster than Johnson was.

As for actual NFL times, Sanders was timed at 4.29 in high tops at the combine, but it was hand-timed. It should be noted that all there admit he pulled up at the end, which means he was flat out flying!

OJ SImpson was a member of a WORLD reocrd 4x100 meter realy team and thought to be the fastest on that team. His best electronic, non-flying start 40? A 4.5.

Renaldo Nehemiah to this day, almost 30-years later, holds high school and collegiate records in the hurdles so there is no doubt that he was blazing fast. (Just in case the Olympics and world records weren't enough to convince you :lmao: )

Those three, Willie Gault, Bob Hayes, and Green were all amazingly fast. None was under a 4.2 though.
This is not completely true either during a recruiting combine for high school player(on NCAA FOOTBALL) I recruited a CB who had a 4.19 40 time. Hand Timed. :thumbup:
I'd be willing to wager the hand timer just stopped the clock too fast. :thumbup:
Or didn't start the clock quickly enough. Or both.
 
what about bush's 4.33 last year? was that hand timed or electronic? not sure i was just amazed when he did that...

 
This is a good article.

http://www.usoc.org/11611_32384.htm

Says that the juiced-up Ben Johnson ran 40 yards in 4.38 on the day he set his tainted world record.
Great article.The fastest time I've ever seen in print was 4.12 seconds for Bo Jackson. Which is wrong, but still the lowest time I've ever seen printed. That was in Sports Illustrated in the 1980s I think.
That article is wrong on several levels. 4.2 is possible. Fabian Washington electronically timed ran 4.25.From Wikipedia

Many reported times are unreliable due to differences in timing methods if not intentional falsifications. The fastest time officially recorded by the NFL was 4.29 seconds by Deion Sanders in 1989 [1], although the NFL did not begin electronic timing until 1990. In the electronic timing era, the fastest recorded time at the NFL Combine was 4.25 seconds by cornerback Fabian Washington in 2005. [2] Most other times close to 4.0 are untrustworthy due to the use of hand timing, but it is often claimed that players including Sanders (4.17)[3], Ted Ginn Jr. (4.06)[4], DeAngelo Hall (4.15)[5][6], Michael Vick (4.25)[7], Bo Jackson (4.12)[8], Michael Bennett (4.13)[9], Randy Moss (4.25)[10], Darrell Green (4.15[11], 4.2[12]), Laveranues Coles (4.2)[13], and Alexander Wright (4.09)[14] have approached that mark. Although 40 yards is always run, the 60 meter dash is not a well-regulated track and field distance, the official record for which is 6.39 seconds. Tapes of sprinter Ben Johnson's world-record breaking 1988 100 meter dash (which was later annulled due to Johnson's steroid use), however, show that Johnson ran the 60 m in 6.37 seconds; this is considered the most quickly started race ever run.[15] Johnson covered the first 40 meters in 4.53 seconds. It is often reported wrongly that Johnsons first 40 yards was timed. It was actually his first 40 meters. Which translates to an exceptionally fast 40 yard time (4.24 seconds).

However, in track and field races, the runner must react to the starting gun, which can take 0.10 to 0.20 seconds. For electronically timed 40 yard dashes, the runner is allowed to start when he wishes, and a timer hand-starts the clock (after a reaction time of 0.1 to 0.2 seconds). This difference would indicate that, at peak form, Johnson would have been electronically timed in 4.04 to 4.14 seconds, or hand-timed in about 4.00 seconds, making claims of hand-held times in the 4.1-4.2 range more credible.
The Zeigler article Hunterbeer quoted was disputed and debunked by track and field types. Johnson was not at 4.38 for 40 yards, but 4.24 and that counts his start reaction which NFL players do not lost, so he was possibly around 4.0 and change. There's film of Bob Hayes at some memorial in Florida where they use digital to prove he went 40 yards from a dead stop in 4.03. At the Home Depot Center in LA you can watch electronically timed sprints digitized and stop them at 40 yards and 4.0 somethings are very common with the fastest men in the world. The NFL standard allows the player to start when he is ready. 4.2 by that standard is way behind the Maurice Greens, Asafa Powells and Justin Gatlins of the track community.

The idea that these times are conspiracy theory, or just fake BS, which I used to believe, is false. The times are real once understood.

 
In a 100M race the goal is to get to top speed and then maintain it for as long as possible. After 60M everyone is actually slowing, and the winner is often the guy who slows down least. So you could take the 40 yards split there and make some assumptions based on that.

Interesting that there are electronic times significantly better than the 4.38 time in the article.

 
what about bush's 4.33 last year? was that hand timed or electronic? not sure i was just amazed when he did that...
Actually his best run was 4.291, but not sure how timed. However, he was "disappointed" that he was not able to crank out his typical 4.25.But yes, anything lower than 4.3 generally means the sun, moon and stars all aligned for the perfect run.
 
I guy I used to work with tried to tell everyone on our "team" that he ran a 4.2 40 in high school. Now, granted.. the guy was about 5' 10" and 280 lbs, loved cheeseburgers and didn't look like he ever did anything athletic in his life.. and had a healthy pron 'stache to boot.

It was at this point that I told him he was full of .....

He got visibly upset, became confrontational and said I was calling him a liar..

I was like, uh... yeh.

We still crack up about that dude to this day. FWIW, he was also a black belt, allegedly.

 
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It was a credit to Woodson that he was able to maintain a high level of play after that knee injury.

Supposedly the fastest ever recorded 40-yard dash was by Darrell Green at either 4.15 or 4.19, depending upon who you believe. He also had the then-fastest time in the world in the 100-meter when he was in college in 1982.

True story: before one of his final seasons in the NFL (2000-2002, I can't remember which), the Redskins were running timed 40-yard dashes for the entire roster during training camp. Green showed up, borrowed a teammate's track shoes, and ran the fastest time on the team at 4.2. It was hand-timed, but I remember his teammates at the time being quoted in the Washington Post as having watched in total disbelief.
This is complete ;) Darrell Green NEVER ran a sub 4.2 40-yard dash. No one in history has ever done so. Oh, and Green NEVER held the world record in the 100 nor did he ever have the fastest time in the world. Heck, he didn't even win a collegiate title that I could find.Coles never ran a 4.16 nor a 4.29, yet another myth.

First we have to take into account the errors of hand-timing, both at the beginning and the end of a race. Second, when the time actually starts, with the players motion or with a gun/light. The times you are people are talking about are absurd. I would be happy to go over the normal conversion rate used when hand-timing is involved with anyone interested. Back to the matter at hand:

Ben Johnson, a one-time 60-meter world record holder and one of the greatest starters in history, is believed to have run 40 yards faster than any human in history. Johnson, completely filled with copious amounts of steroids, won the 100 meters at the 1988 Olympics in Seoul in 9.79 seconds, only to have his gold medal and world record stripped after failing a post-race drug test.

Timing officials have since broken down that famed race into 10-meter increments, and Johnson was so preposterously fast that he went through 50 meters in 5.52 seconds and 60 meters in 6.37 – both under the current world records at those distances. He went through 40 yards that day in 4.38 seconds.

He was running in spikes . . . on a warm afternoon perfectly suited for sprinting . . . with a slight tailwind . . . with years of training from arguably track's top coach, Charlie Francis . . . with Carl Lewis and six others of the fastest men on the planet chasing him . . . with 69,000 people roaring at Seoul's Olympic Stadium . . . with the ultimate prize in sports, an Olympic gold medal, at stake.

And, as we learned later, with muscles built with the assistance of the anabolic steroid stanazolol.

Four-point-three-eight seconds.

Even taken from the moment he moved instead of the gun, Johnson covered the 40 in 4.26 seconds. (A time equaled by Maurice Green in his then record run). I'm sorry, but neither Green nor Coles is a full stride faster than Johnson was.

As for actual NFL times, Sanders was timed at 4.29 in high tops at the combine, but it was hand-timed. It should be noted that all there admit he pulled up at the end, which means he was flat out flying!

OJ SImpson was a member of a WORLD reocrd 4x100 meter realy team and thought to be the fastest on that team. His best electronic, non-flying start 40? A 4.5.

Renaldo Nehemiah to this day, almost 30-years later, holds high school and collegiate records in the hurdles so there is no doubt that he was blazing fast. (Just in case the Olympics and world records weren't enough to convince you :rolleyes: )

Those three, Willie Gault, Bob Hayes, and Green were all amazingly fast. None was under a 4.2 though.
This is not completely true either during a recruiting combine for high school player(on NCAA FOOTBALL) I recruited a CB who had a 4.19 40 time. Hand Timed. :shock:
I'd be willing to wager the hand timer just stopped the clock too fast. :D
Or didn't start the clock quickly enough. Or both.
He is talking about a video game. Don’t ask me why.
 
This is a good article.

http://www.usoc.org/11611_32384.htm

Says that the juiced-up Ben Johnson ran 40 yards in 4.38 on the day he set his tainted world record.
Great article.The fastest time I've ever seen in print was 4.12 seconds for Bo Jackson. Which is wrong, but still the lowest time I've ever seen printed. That was in Sports Illustrated in the 1980s I think.
That article is wrong on several levels. 4.2 is possible. Fabian Washington electronically timed ran 4.25.From Wikipedia

Many reported times are unreliable due to differences in timing methods if not intentional falsifications. The fastest time officially recorded by the NFL was 4.29 seconds by Deion Sanders in 1989 [1], although the NFL did not begin electronic timing until 1990. In the electronic timing era, the fastest recorded time at the NFL Combine was 4.25 seconds by cornerback Fabian Washington in 2005. [2] Most other times close to 4.0 are untrustworthy due to the use of hand timing, but it is often claimed that players including Sanders (4.17)[3], Ted Ginn Jr. (4.06)[4], DeAngelo Hall (4.15)[5][6], Michael Vick (4.25)[7], Bo Jackson (4.12)[8], Michael Bennett (4.13)[9], Randy Moss (4.25)[10], Darrell Green (4.15[11], 4.2[12]), Laveranues Coles (4.2)[13], and Alexander Wright (4.09)[14] have approached that mark. Although 40 yards is always run, the 60 meter dash is not a well-regulated track and field distance, the official record for which is 6.39 seconds. Tapes of sprinter Ben Johnson's world-record breaking 1988 100 meter dash (which was later annulled due to Johnson's steroid use), however, show that Johnson ran the 60 m in 6.37 seconds; this is considered the most quickly started race ever run.[15] Johnson covered the first 40 meters in 4.53 seconds. It is often reported wrongly that Johnsons first 40 yards was timed. It was actually his first 40 meters. Which translates to an exceptionally fast 40 yard time (4.24 seconds).

However, in track and field races, the runner must react to the starting gun, which can take 0.10 to 0.20 seconds. For electronically timed 40 yard dashes, the runner is allowed to start when he wishes, and a timer hand-starts the clock (after a reaction time of 0.1 to 0.2 seconds). This difference would indicate that, at peak form, Johnson would have been electronically timed in 4.04 to 4.14 seconds, or hand-timed in about 4.00 seconds, making claims of hand-held times in the 4.1-4.2 range more credible.
The Zeigler article Hunterbeer quoted was disputed and debunked by track and field types. Johnson was not at 4.38 for 40 yards, but 4.24 and that counts his start reaction which NFL players do not lost, so he was possibly around 4.0 and change. There's film of Bob Hayes at some memorial in Florida where they use digital to prove he went 40 yards from a dead stop in 4.03. At the Home Depot Center in LA you can watch electronically timed sprints digitized and stop them at 40 yards and 4.0 somethings are very common with the fastest men in the world. The NFL standard allows the player to start when he is ready. 4.2 by that standard is way behind the Maurice Greens, Asafa Powells and Justin Gatlins of the track community.

The idea that these times are conspiracy theory, or just fake BS, which I used to believe, is false. The times are real once understood.
Well first, Wikipedia is not a real source as for all you know I could have posted that article or my dog could have. Second, it only proves that 4.2 is not possible without incompetence in timing. Fabian Washington's time has, at the minimum, a .2 added to it for human reaction at either the start or the finish, as both are not electronic or were not as of last year. If we have human timing at the start AND finish, add .4.A real sub 4.2 has never been run. One problem with having a humna element is that each start/finish is slightly different in reaction time. Thus, even if both are timed by the same guy, you still do not get an even comparison b/c you don't know if reacted better the first or second time.

 

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