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My pinkie hurts. Where the hell is she?Maybe Jessica Simpson healed it with her magic box![]()
My pinkie hurts. Where the hell is she?Maybe Jessica Simpson healed it with her magic box![]()
ETA: Honda alert. I did find it after I posted this - sorry, guys.Tony Romo is willing to do his part.
The quarterback informed coaches on Wednesday that he is ready to play Sunday against the St. Louis Rams, a high-ranking Cowboys source told ESPN.com's Matt Mosley.
ummm.. nope ... it is the first finger to leave the ballthe pinky just isn't that important ... it's why you see it taped routinely to the ring finger when jammed and it's why you see folks playing with it brokenBankerguy said:It's the last part of the hand to touch the ball.Why risk turning the fracture from undisplaced to displaced and requiring surgery?Those were thumb issues though which seem to more directly affect the grip on the ball. Not saying that Romo will not experience any fallout from the injury, but it seems (logically at least) that the pinkie would be the least important digit whn it comes to throwing. I think its the snap that would create the pain and any issues that arise from the pain.Warner has had to deal with finger issues in the past. Yes he played through them, but he was not very accurate, could not get much zip on the ball, and was a turnover machine (both interceptions and fumbles).
I would not expect Romo to be able to produce like Romo given his injury. If he can't grip the ball the same way, I would expect much lower numbers.
Because athletes ALWAYS want to play and will do/say anything to get back on the field, especially when they are under fire or feel threatened in some way. The pitcher with a tired arm will want to stay in the game, the shooting guard with a bum knee will shake it off and stay in the game, and in this case the star QB with a broken pinky thinks he can play and help the team. Maybe he can, maybe he can't but to allow the athlete to make the decision without any questions is foolish at best and dangerous to him and the team long-term at worst.sjacksonfan said:If he says he can play, why hold him out? He can break any bone at any time during any game. If you're going to hold him out over this when he can play, why not hold him out all season? C'mon, rub some dirt on it and get out there.
yesMCguidance said:Was this posted?
Although I think it's stupid........=============================================================Andy Herron said:Even with his fractured pinkie, there is no doubt Dallas quarterback Tony Romo wants to play. But being able to play as well as being cleared medically are a different issue.
Romo has been told that if he plays, and if he aggravates his pinkie injury, it could become a displaced fracture. And if his pinkie becomes a displaced fracture, then the 4- to 5-week time frame which Romo is expected to miss would become more prolonged.
With a displaced fracture, Romo would face season-ending surgery.
Now, even with Romo telling the Cowboys coaches he wants to play, Dallas’ coaches must make one of the most significant decisions of this season. Their choice.
-Adam Scheffter, NFL.com
http://blogs.nfl.com/2008/10/16/romos-fickle-finger-of-fate/
As I said last night, Johnson will certainly start Sunday at St. Louis.
this is my thought as well. BJ can at least manage the game against SL. this is what backup QB's are for.We were discussing this in the Favre thread. Bottom line is that this is bad idea. Rest and come back when you are healed Tony. Even if the club goes 1-2, they have a great shot at the playoffs. I HIGHLY doubt the Cowboys risk the franchise QB.
I am starting him, my backups are Ryan (ATL) and Garcia (TB). BTW we have a team qb in this league so if he gets pulled I am safe guarded if he get's pulled from the lineup during the game. Old league going on 25 years, this is the one rule that is left from when it started that the owners do not want to let go of. I kinda like it myself but all other leagues I am in it is a single player QB system.IF Romo plays do you start him?1) Assuming your backup is marginal.I'm not sure I want to take that risk this week.
Ditto.However, Jerry is saying right now (currently on "The Ticket" radio station here in Dallas) that he is leaving it up to Romo as to whether he feels he can go or not. Jerry says he thinks Romo will be able to play. As to risking further injury, Jerry says the splint designed for him is very protective. He did admit that Romo has yet to attempt hand-offs or taking snaps from under center.Wade Phillips press conference coming up momentarily...this is my thought as well. BJ can at least manage the game against SL. this is what backup QB's are for.We were discussing this in the Favre thread. Bottom line is that this is bad idea. Rest and come back when you are healed Tony. Even if the club goes 1-2, they have a great shot at the playoffs. I HIGHLY doubt the Cowboys risk the franchise QB.
This doesn't sound right.Big News per DFW sports beat, Romo has possible ligaments torn in thumb too --------------------------------------------------------------------------------I was watching brady tinker on sports beat, and possibly big news, brady said that romo has like torn ligaments in his thumb besides his pinkie finger and he needs at least 2 weeks rest to get this well, so he can throw better etc. LOL...which is it?
The above was a post from a Cowboys message board (not me talking).DMN now retracts.The report is not true.Sorry everyone.This doesn't sound right.Big News per DFW sports beat, Romo has possible ligaments torn in thumb too --------------------------------------------------------------------------------I was watching brady tinker on sports beat, and possibly big news, brady said that romo has like torn ligaments in his thumb besides his pinkie finger and he needs at least 2 weeks rest to get this well, so he can throw better etc. LOL...which is it?
Oh, I know. No worries there.The above was a post from a Cowboys message board (not me talking).This doesn't sound right.Big News per DFW sports beat, Romo has possible ligaments torn in thumb too --------------------------------------------------------------------------------I was watching brady tinker on sports beat, and possibly big news, brady said that romo has like torn ligaments in his thumb besides his pinkie finger and he needs at least 2 weeks rest to get this well, so he can throw better etc. LOL...which is it?
Andy...with all due respect. It's far from clear that Johnson will start.Who will make the final decision on Romo playing?Let's be clear here. Jerry said Tony should be able to "play," not necessarily saying he should be able to "start."
All things considered, it sounds like they will go with Johnson and Romo will be the backup rather than the emergency 3rd QB.
We'll have to see how practice goes today, but I tend to agree with this line of thinking. He's throwing and from what I've seen posted it sounds like Jerry is comfortable with him playing and so is Romo. Romo gives them the best chance to win, why would they not play him? In one of the posts earlier it was stated he couldn't damage it any further, so this seems like a nobrainer to me, he plays.Andy...with all due respect. It's far from clear that Johnson will start.Who will make the final decision on Romo playing?Let's be clear here. Jerry said Tony should be able to "play," not necessarily saying he should be able to "start."
All things considered, it sounds like they will go with Johnson and Romo will be the backup rather than the emergency 3rd QB.
We’ll see how he feels, and that will be it. It will be up to how he feels on Sunday at this juncture. It will be up to him. If he’s feeling good and the pain is good, he’ll play.
100% agree. He should not play.I would have to question the intelligence of Jones and the Dallas coaching staff if Romo sees the field Sunday. Why not give him an extra week to heal up? You are playing the Rams and if you honestly think you are good enough to win a Superbowl this year, you should be able to beat them with Brad Johnson who is a very serviceable as your QB.
Clear? No, but-Dallas Cowboys head coach Wade Phillips didn't wait for any questions during his short press conference here Friday at Valley Ranch. Phillips started off by saying his team is prepared to play with quarterback Brad Johnson. "We can win this game with Brad," Phillips said. "We're getting ready to play with Brad. If Tony (Romo) plays at all, it will be a bonus." Either the Cowboys are truly getting Brad Johnson as ready as possible, or they're not letting the media see anything. In the 25 minutes we got to see of Friday's walk-thru practice, Tony Romo only threw just a handful of passes - all coming in a light warm-up to the receivers and backs. In the team-structured practice, Johnson took all of the snaps with the first-team.Andy...with all due respect. It's far from clear that Johnson will start.Who will make the final decision on Romo playing?Let's be clear here. Jerry said Tony should be able to "play," not necessarily saying he should be able to "start."
All things considered, it sounds like they will go with Johnson and Romo will be the backup rather than the emergency 3rd QB.
We’ll see how he feels, and that will be it. It will be up to how he feels on Sunday at this juncture. It will be up to him. If he’s feeling good and the pain is good, he’ll play.
If that's the case gotta think barring setback it's 100% Romo starts.hellz_fireflies said:Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said Friday that Tony Romo is "very likely" to play against the Rams despite a broken right pinkie.
Jones indicated that it's a pain tolerance issue and head coach Wade Phillips said he'll defer to his boss. "Whatever Jerry says, I'm going with," Phillips said. It sounds like Romo is going to play, but that won't be for sure until Sunday's inactives are released. Oct. 17 - 12:48 pm et
Source: Dallas Morning News
Those are the kind of replies Wade throws out there for "laughs," which in most cases he gets. These are the kind of quotes that get misconstrued when they come out in print.If that's the case gotta think barring setback it's 100% Romo starts.hellz_fireflies said:Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said Friday that Tony Romo is "very likely" to play against the Rams despite a broken right pinkie.
Jones indicated that it's a pain tolerance issue and head coach Wade Phillips said he'll defer to his boss. "Whatever Jerry says, I'm going with," Phillips said. It sounds like Romo is going to play, but that won't be for sure until Sunday's inactives are released. Oct. 17 - 12:48 pm et
Source: Dallas Morning News
I hear you but gotta think it's pretty close to the truth, no? Even if he was going for laughs.Those are the kind of replies Wade throws out there for "laughs," which in most cases he gets. These are the kind of quotes that get misconstrued when they come out in print.If that's the case gotta think barring setback it's 100% Romo starts.hellz_fireflies said:Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said Friday that Tony Romo is "very likely" to play against the Rams despite a broken right pinkie.
Jones indicated that it's a pain tolerance issue and head coach Wade Phillips said he'll defer to his boss. "Whatever Jerry says, I'm going with," Phillips said. It sounds like Romo is going to play, but that won't be for sure until Sunday's inactives are released. Oct. 17 - 12:48 pm et
Source: Dallas Morning News
I believe the exact quote when Wade was talking about JJ was..... Dr. Jerry (no joke).Those are the kind of replies Wade throws out there for "laughs," which in most cases he gets. These are the kind of quotes that get misconstrued when they come out in print.If that's the case gotta think barring setback it's 100% Romo starts.hellz_fireflies said:Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said Friday that Tony Romo is "very likely" to play against the Rams despite a broken right pinkie.
Jones indicated that it's a pain tolerance issue and head coach Wade Phillips said he'll defer to his boss. "Whatever Jerry says, I'm going with," Phillips said. It sounds like Romo is going to play, but that won't be for sure until Sunday's inactives are released. Oct. 17 - 12:48 pm et
Source: Dallas Morning News
I'm thinking Jones has Romo and Kurt Warner in the FBG contest and doesn't want to get a zero.Bankerguy said:100% agree. He should not play.PizzaDeliveryGuy said:I would have to question the intelligence of Jones and the Dallas coaching staff if Romo sees the field Sunday. Why not give him an extra week to heal up? You are playing the Rams and if you honestly think you are good enough to win a Superbowl this year, you should be able to beat them with Brad Johnson who is a very serviceable as your QB.
Completely disagree. This is the NFL. Anyone can beat anyone on any given Sunday. The Rams just won in Washington last week and now they're at home. A conference loss this week for Dallas could be the difference between a first round bye in the playoffs and not making the playoffs at all. If a team starts thinking they can coast through a game without their best players because on paper they should, that team is just asking for trouble. Put the players on the field every week that give you the best chance to win. Period. If Romo's hurt and can't grip the ball, that's one thing. If he can play but they're holding him out just because they think they can win anyway, then that's a mistake IMO.Andy Herron said:Phulish said:PizzaDeliveryGuy said:I would have to question the intelligence of Jones and the Dallas coaching staff if Romo sees the field Sunday. Why not give him an extra week to heal up? You are playing the Rams and if you honestly think you are good enough to win a Superbowl this year, you should be able to beat them with Brad Johnson who is very serviceable as your QB.nothing good comes from this. If the cowboys can't win this game with Johnson back there, they are not going to win the superbowl. A poorly thrown ball taken back for 6, bad exchanges or another injury as he compensates for the hand....don't like it one bit.Defense needs to step their sh$t up and allow Brad to manage the game smartly.
Yep! That's where we're at.
Johnson will start. The hope is Romo will be capable if needed.The Rams beat Washington last week and are hungry. But the Cowboys should be a far better team. I wish I knew who was starting. I think BJ starts and Romo plays if BJ makes a mistake or two.
Couldn't agree more with this post. Here's a bit I found where a couple of ESPN analysts talk about the success of QBs playing through injuries. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2b1D5w82yUCompletely disagree. This is the NFL. Anyone can beat anyone on any given Sunday. The Rams just won in Washington last week and now they're at home. A conference loss this week for Dallas could be the difference between a first round bye in the playoffs and not making the playoffs at all. If a team starts thinking they can coast through a game without their best players because on paper they should, that team is just asking for trouble. Put the players on the field every week that give you the best chance to win. Period. If Romo's hurt and can't grip the ball, that's one thing. If he can play but they're holding him out just because they think they can win anyway, then that's a mistake IMO.Andy Herron said:Phulish said:PizzaDeliveryGuy said:I would have to question the intelligence of Jones and the Dallas coaching staff if Romo sees the field Sunday. Why not give him an extra week to heal up? You are playing the Rams and if you honestly think you are good enough to win a Superbowl this year, you should be able to beat them with Brad Johnson who is very serviceable as your QB.nothing good comes from this. If the cowboys can't win this game with Johnson back there, they are not going to win the superbowl. A poorly thrown ball taken back for 6, bad exchanges or another injury as he compensates for the hand....
don't like it one bit.
Defense needs to step their sh$t up and allow Brad to manage the game smartly.Yep! That's where we're at.
couldn't disagree more with your agreement of his disagreementCouldn't agree more with this post. Here's a bit I found where a couple of ESPN analysts talk about the success of QBs playing through injuries. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2b1D5w82yUCompletely disagree. This is the NFL. Anyone can beat anyone on any given Sunday. The Rams just won in Washington last week and now they're at home. A conference loss this week for Dallas could be the difference between a first round bye in the playoffs and not making the playoffs at all. If a team starts thinking they can coast through a game without their best players because on paper they should, that team is just asking for trouble. Put the players on the field every week that give you the best chance to win. Period. If Romo's hurt and can't grip the ball, that's one thing. If he can play but they're holding him out just because they think they can win anyway, then that's a mistake IMO.Andy Herron said:Phulish said:PizzaDeliveryGuy said:I would have to question the intelligence of Jones and the Dallas coaching staff if Romo sees the field Sunday. Why not give him an extra week to heal up? You are playing the Rams and if you honestly think you are good enough to win a Superbowl this year, you should be able to beat them with Brad Johnson who is very serviceable as your QB.nothing good comes from this. If the cowboys can't win this game with Johnson back there, they are not going to win the superbowl. A poorly thrown ball taken back for 6, bad exchanges or another injury as he compensates for the hand....
don't like it one bit.
Defense needs to step their sh$t up and allow Brad to manage the game smartly.Yep! That's where we're at.
I have Romo on my roster, and I know he's not starting.I'm going with Garcia.Man, is this going to be one of those last second starts where fools get stuck with the wrong guy? Would it be better to fish someone off waivers rather than try to play the guessing game with the Cowboys QBs?
I side with the logic that he's not starting, but you consistently speaking in absolutes in regards to something you know nothing about has me rooting for Romo to be under center come Sunday.I have Romo on my roster, and I know he's not starting.I'm going with Garcia.Man, is this going to be one of those last second starts where fools get stuck with the wrong guy? Would it be better to fish someone off waivers rather than try to play the guessing game with the Cowboys QBs?
I apologize if I come across that way, and I do know something about it-take it or leave it-but you are still left with whatever choice you prefer. I'm only trying to inform you. You wanna start Romo? Go for it... and good luck.I'm here to offer absolute knowledge and input, and not to sell a darn thing. You're free to do with it what you want.Nobody's twisting your arm.I side with the logic that he's not starting, but you consistently speaking in absolutes in regards to something you know nothing about has me rooting for Romo to be under center come Sunday.I have Romo on my roster, and I know he's not starting.I'm going with Garcia.Man, is this going to be one of those last second starts where fools get stuck with the wrong guy? Would it be better to fish someone off waivers rather than try to play the guessing game with the Cowboys QBs?