Ronnie Brown (1 Viewer)

[Kitrick Taylor]

I moved Ronnie after the Colts Monday night game because I had good stable of RB's- AD, Brown, Rice, Benson, Bradshaw, and Caddy. I was shocked that the Miami o-line was able to dominate the Jets d-line the way they did. I think defenses will figure out how to slow down/stop the wildcat as the season goes on. If that does happen Brown could still have value in a conventional offense "if" Hene continues to play like last night. My concerns then and still somewhat now is can they continue to dominate the clock like they have been? Ricky is still in the mix and will get his share of theTD's, seems like Brown has been in position for the TD's more lately bumping up his total points.

My feeling after watching the Dolphins play a couple of times this year is yes they can continue to dominate the clock. They have invested a ton into that offensive line and it is paying off for them. They've also got two very good backs, that both run very hard. It just wears down defenses. The Dolphins also have a rarity in an NFL coach that is absolutely committed to the run. I think those that thought they were selling high on Ronnie Brown were actually selling low. Top 5 RB (Ronnie is #2 right now) seasons are difficult to come by outside of the top few RBs off the board.

 

[netnalp]

I moved Ronnie after the Colts Monday night game because I had good stable of RB's- AD, Brown, Rice, Benson, Bradshaw, and Caddy. I was shocked that the Miami o-line was able to dominate the Jets d-line the way they did. I think defenses will figure out how to slow down/stop the wildcat as the season goes on. If that does happen Brown could still have value in a conventional offense "if" Hene continues to play like last night. My concerns then and still somewhat now is can they continue to dominate the clock like they have been? Ricky is still in the mix and will get his share of theTD's, seems like Brown has been in position for the TD's more lately bumping up his total points.

The first few games it seemed like the coaches were determined that Brown and Williams got the exact same number of touches. The past two weeks Brown has gotten more touches, helping Browns stats and TD opportunities.

 

[theToes]

Anyone that has traded Brown must feel foolish.

I traded him after week 2 in a package tha got me MJD. I'm not too upset with the results.

 

[LionOfGosforth]

Anyone that has traded Brown must feel foolish.

I traded him after week 2 in a package tha got me MJD. I'm not too upset with the results.

I tried my hardest to sell him after the Colts game and couldn't get a bite, no interest whatsoever. Ended up trading Mcgahee instead to a guy who insisted he much preferred Willis...too early to say for sure but right now i'm glad he turned Ronnie down, he's an every week starter for sure, even non-ppr.

 

[SSOG]

I moved Ronnie after the Colts Monday night game because I had good stable of RB's- AD, Brown, Rice, Benson, Bradshaw, and Caddy. I was shocked that the Miami o-line was able to dominate the Jets d-line the way they did. I think defenses will figure out how to slow down/stop the wildcat as the season goes on. If that does happen Brown could still have value in a conventional offense "if" Hene continues to play like last night. My concerns then and still somewhat now is can they continue to dominate the clock like they have been? Ricky is still in the mix and will get his share of theTD's, seems like Brown has been in position for the TD's more lately bumping up his total points.

So... given over a year (including an entire offseason), defenses still haven't figured out how to stop the Wildcat. Rex Ryan, the guy who everyone claimed had "figured out" the Wildcat, just had his team embarrassed by it. Despite this, someone's going to figure out how to stop it in the next few weeks? I'm not buying it.The reason why no one has figured out how to stop the Wildcat is because the Wildcat is fundamentally sound whiteboard offense. It's no more "stoppable" than the West Coast is "stoppable". Some teams will do better against it in coming weeks, sure... but that doesn't mean they've "figured out" the Wildcat, any more than a team doing well against the WCO one week means they've "figured out" the WCO. At the end of the day, the success or failure of the wildcat will rest largely on the personnel on the field. Miami has amazing personnel for the Wildcat, so it won't be slowed down much, if at all. If another team manages to slow it down, odds are it's because they have fantastic defensive personnel of their own. The Jets aren't the team to do it, because (despite their fast start), their defensive personnel isn't elite.

 

[Native]

Ronnie looks like one of the better RB's in the league this year. Hes much more decisive hitting the holes and he finished his runs as hard as anyone in the league. And hes a perfect fit for the wildcat.

 

[two_dollars]

I moved Ronnie after the Colts Monday night game because I had good stable of RB's- AD, Brown, Rice, Benson, Bradshaw, and Caddy. I was shocked that the Miami o-line was able to dominate the Jets d-line the way they did. I think defenses will figure out how to slow down/stop the wildcat as the season goes on. If that does happen Brown could still have value in a conventional offense "if" Hene continues to play like last night. My concerns then and still somewhat now is can they continue to dominate the clock like they have been? Ricky is still in the mix and will get his share of theTD's, seems like Brown has been in position for the TD's more lately bumping up his total points.

So... given over a year (including an entire offseason), defenses still haven't figured out how to stop the Wildcat. Rex Ryan, the guy who everyone claimed had "figured out" the Wildcat, just had his team embarrassed by it. Despite this, someone's going to figure out how to stop it in the next few weeks? I'm not buying it.The reason why no one has figured out how to stop the Wildcat is because the Wildcat is fundamentally sound whiteboard offense. It's no more "stoppable" than the West Coast is "stoppable". Some teams will do better against it in coming weeks, sure... but that doesn't mean they've "figured out" the Wildcat, any more than a team doing well against the WCO one week means they've "figured out" the WCO. At the end of the day, the success or failure of the wildcat will rest largely on the personnel on the field. Miami has amazing personnel for the Wildcat, so it won't be slowed down much, if at all. If another team manages to slow it down, odds are it's because they have fantastic defensive personnel of their own. The Jets aren't the team to do it, because (despite their fast start), their defensive personnel isn't elite.

Why do people still insist that the wildcat is some kind of gimmick play that defenses need to "figure out"?

 

[SSOG]

Ronnie looks like one of the better RB's in the league this year. Hes much more decisive hitting the holes and he finished his runs as hard as anyone in the league. And hes a perfect fit for the wildcat.

Ronnie Brown has always been one of the five to ten best runners in the league (witness: 2007, when Ronnie was the #1 fantasy RB when he went down to injury). People forgot it a little bit because he was slowed last year, recovering from an injury that historically RBs have needed two years to return to full strength from. It's been two years now. Ronnie Brown is at full strength.

 

[certificate]

I moved Ronnie after the Colts Monday night game because I had good stable of RB's- AD, Brown, Rice, Benson, Bradshaw, and Caddy. I was shocked that the Miami o-line was able to dominate the Jets d-line the way they did. I think defenses will figure out how to slow down/stop the wildcat as the season goes on. If that does happen Brown could still have value in a conventional offense "if" Hene continues to play like last night. My concerns then and still somewhat now is can they continue to dominate the clock like they have been? Ricky is still in the mix and will get his share of theTD's, seems like Brown has been in position for the TD's more lately bumping up his total points.

So... given over a year (including an entire offseason), defenses still haven't figured out how to stop the Wildcat. Rex Ryan, the guy who everyone claimed had "figured out" the Wildcat, just had his team embarrassed by it. Despite this, someone's going to figure out how to stop it in the next few weeks? I'm not buying it.The reason why no one has figured out how to stop the Wildcat is because the Wildcat is fundamentally sound whiteboard offense. It's no more "stoppable" than the West Coast is "stoppable". Some teams will do better against it in coming weeks, sure... but that doesn't mean they've "figured out" the Wildcat, any more than a team doing well against the WCO one week means they've "figured out" the WCO. At the end of the day, the success or failure of the wildcat will rest largely on the personnel on the field. Miami has amazing personnel for the Wildcat, so it won't be slowed down much, if at all. If another team manages to slow it down, odds are it's because they have fantastic defensive personnel of their own. The Jets aren't the team to do it, because (despite their fast start), their defensive personnel isn't elite.

Why do people still insist that the wildcat is some kind of gimmick play that defenses need to "figure out"?

Agreed, the dolphins arent running some incredibly complicated, fancy scheme... it's hat on hat, find a hole and slam it in there football, and it's a joy to watch (and I'm no dolphins fan).

 

[Bills_Fan11]

Looking at Miami's rush offense for the 4 games (Home vs Away):

Away:

@Seattle - Seattle gave up an average of 162 against their other 2 opponents (CAR, NE) - gave up 83 to Miami.

@San Diego - SD gave an average of 152 to their other opponents (OAK, BAL, PIT) - gave up 149 to Miami



Home:

vs Indy - Indy gave up an average of 62 yards to their other opponents (JAX, ARI, SEA) - gave up 239 to Miami

vs Buffalo - Buffalo gave up an average of 117 to others (NE, TB, NO) - gave up 250 to Miami



This week:

vs NYJ at home - NYJ gave up an average of 101 to others (HOU, NE, TEN, NO) - Another 200+ week?

So is Miami's rushing attack really that much better at home? It looks like they are about 3-4 times more effective at home vs on the road. I know, not a perfect study and small numbers. But, even so, there appears to be a clear difference.

My question is why? Why would they be better running the ball at home? Very interesting.

It's just a fluke. They turned the ball over a million times in week 1 and had to change QB's vs. SD (plus a goaline fumble). It's like expecting Carolina to be a much better home team because of last year, when before last year they were always better on the road. Totally insignificant sample.

No it's not. It has a lot to do with weather. You can see the D-line was worn out every single game. Jenkins, Freeney, etc sititng on the bench for plays and Miami going right at the replacements.Typically, Miami's rushing offense slows down as it gets colder.

However, I still think Ronnie finishes top 5, possibly #1 overall RB.

Fair enough. There was a time they were unbeatable down there in September. It's less of a factor moving forward though.

 

[Chunky Soup]

I offered up my Randy Moss for Ronnie Brown in redraft PPR. Any chance this gets accepted?

 

[Brutis]

I offered up my Randy Moss for Ronnie Brown in redraft PPR. Any chance this gets accepted?

Thats tough to do, its rare I can trade away a RB and not get one in return. He must have atleast 2 other good RB's to rely on.

 

[SSOG]

I offered up my Randy Moss for Ronnie Brown in redraft PPR. Any chance this gets accepted?

Sure, there's a chance. I once saw someone trade Antonio Gates for Patrick Crayton... in a dynasty league... in 2007.With that said, I think the odds are against it.

 

[j3r3m3y]

I offered up my Randy Moss for Ronnie Brown in redraft PPR. Any chance this gets accepted?

There is a chance, people make mistakes.

 

[netnalp]

I'm keeping Ronnie. In my league he's 6pts behind Peterson for the year, but I'd argue he's the #1 RB because his weekly scores, have been more consistent. I like the trend that his bad week was week 1 and the rest have all been good.

 

[OddibeMcD]

Since this has semi-turned into a ROnnie Brown value thread I don't feel too guilty about posting this:

12 man 6-keeper league, lose the round the player was picked in, round picked is in parentheses.

Ronnie Brown (1st), McFadden (1st) and a 2010 third

For

Steve Slaton (7th), Dwayne Bowe (14th) and a 2010 fifth

 

[LOCO]

bump.

ronnie was held under 50 yards for the second straight game. Ricky seems to be a huge role for this team. still love ronnie, and has a nice playoff schedule, but i am a little worried.

 

[zamboni]

bump.ronnie was held under 50 yards for the second straight game. Ricky seems to be a huge role for this team. still love ronnie, and has a nice playoff schedule, but i am a little worried.

To be sure, Ricky has a lot fewer carries by design, but he's looked a lot better running the ball than Brown over the past few weeks.

 

[thehornet]

bump.ronnie was held under 50 yards for the second straight game. Ricky seems to be a huge role for this team. still love ronnie, and has a nice playoff schedule, but i am a little worried.

To be sure, Ricky has a lot fewer carries by design, but he's looked a lot better running the ball than Brown over the past few weeks.

thry are used in different ways. Ronnie is the pounder most of the time which is obviously going to hurt his overall averages.

 

[=Smackdown=]

I wouldn't worry too much - his schedule gets much easier from now on . . .

10 vs Bucs

11 @ CAR

12 @ BUF

13 vs NE

14 @ JAC

15 @ TENN

16 vs HOU

17 vs PITT

 

[Keith1]

bump.ronnie was held under 50 yards for the second straight game. Ricky seems to be a huge role for this team. still love ronnie, and has a nice playoff schedule, but i am a little worried.

passing TD counts as much as a rushing TD.

 

[BespokeJort]

bump.ronnie was held under 50 yards for the second straight game. Ricky seems to be a huge role for this team. still love ronnie, and has a nice playoff schedule, but i am a little worried.

passing TD counts as much as a rushing TD.

no, in a large portion of leagues, it doesn't

 

[SSOG]

bump.ronnie was held under 50 yards for the second straight game. Ricky seems to be a huge role for this team. still love ronnie, and has a nice playoff schedule, but i am a little worried.

I never knew that 64 yards was under 50 yards.Seriously... 64 yards and a passing TD is an off game for Ronnie and a cause for concern. Which is the perfect reason why there shouldn't be any concern. He's still the focal point of the offense, he's still one of the best and most talented runners in the league. As long as that's the case, I'm going to keep riding him.

 

[sdsjr3]

bump.ronnie was held under 50 yards for the second straight game. Ricky seems to be a huge role for this team. still love ronnie, and has a nice playoff schedule, but i am a little worried.

I never knew that 64 yards was under 50 yards.Seriously... 64 yards and a passing TD is an off game for Ronnie and a cause for concern. Which is the perfect reason why there shouldn't be any concern. He's still the focal point of the offense, he's still one of the best and most talented runners in the league. As long as that's the case, I'm going to keep riding him.

I agree with this and just bought him in one league. Looking at the schedule I see teams that the Phins should be able to run on and based on last year and early this year there are going to be fantasy points a plenty in the Phins backfield. It sucks, in a way, that Ricky is so effective, but at the same time I don't think it impacts Ronnie's overall numbers they way some would suggest. And as SSOG said, Ronnie has a ton of talent. GREAT buy low right now IMO. In 3 of my 4 leagues he's being shopped around.

 

[Mavzfan]

Why in the heck is Pat White getting carries over Ronnie now? Was that just a NE tactic? Ronnie was as good as anyone the first half of the year running the offense... now he is sitting a lot more with Ricky in at RB and stinking Pat White running QB.

 

[(HULK)]

I just traded Ronnie Brown/Carson Palmer for Drew Brees/Mike Bell. I had good RB depth though.

Still not sure if it was a great move or not.

 

[Jackstraw]

Why in the heck is Pat White getting carries over Ronnie now? Was that just a NE tactic? Ronnie was as good as anyone the first half of the year running the offense... now he is sitting a lot more with Ricky in at RB and stinking Pat White running QB.

Teams are run blitzing their corners creating one on one coverages. Miami is forced to pass out of the formation and Pat is better qualified to throw.